2010/6/23 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
I figured it would be footway=* (a la cycleway=*), but apparently that was
proposed years ago and never adopted
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Footway).
do you suggest to set it to abandoned? Features in OSM are (mostly)
not introduced
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:29 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
2010/6/23 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
I figured it would be footway=* (a la cycleway=*), but apparently that
was
proposed years ago and never adopted
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:29 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/6/23 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
I figured it would be footway=* (a la cycleway=*), but apparently that
was
proposed years ago and never
On 24 June 2010 00:13, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
Without attempting to express much of an interest in tagging
discussions, it would be great if you were to use the word sidewalk
to describe the paths-along-the-edge-of-roads. The word footway might
footpath=* :)
On 6/23/10, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
highway=path wouldn't work if the way is already tagged with
highway=secondary.
I was thinking something like highway=secondary, footway=both (a la
highway=secondary,
2010/6/23 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
The alternative would be to have three different ways.
Neither solution is particularly nice, though. I'm actually hoping someone
will come up with something better :).
use three ways and connect them with area relations ;-)
cheers,
Martin
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2010/6/23 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
The alternative would be to have three different ways.
Neither solution is particularly nice, though. I'm actually hoping someone
will come up with something better :).
use three ways and connect them with area
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On 6/23/10, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
Without attempting to express much of an interest in tagging
discussions, it would be great if you were to use the word sidewalk
to describe the paths-along-the-edge-of-roads.
Liz wrote:
Firstly I don't agree with your assessment.
Secondly, how will this assist with tagging streets unsuitable for cycling?
The only kind of street that is unsuitable for cycling is a street
on which it is illegal to ride bicycles (regardless of safety.) A
certain individual
2010/6/22 Paul Houle p...@ontology2.com:
get hit by cars. Meanwhile there is a contingent of idiots in a city
near me that are continuously complaining that the city is not bicycle
friendly but that won't speak out about absurdly dangerous bicycling
behaviors that go on all the time.. Even
On 23 June 2010 00:14, Paul Houle p...@ontology2.com wrote:
I'd like to see some tagging that tells cyclists not to ride on
sidewalks, for instance: as a pedestrian I've been involved in
accidents where cyclists were ~illegally~ riding on a sidewalk and
Surely that is just highway=foot,
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 June 2010 00:14, Paul Houle p...@ontology2.com wrote:
I'd like to see some tagging that tells cyclists not to ride on
sidewalks, for instance: as a pedestrian I've been involved in
accidents where cyclists
On Monday 21 June 2010 01:21:19 Roy Wallace wrote:
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Personally I don't mind if they add some sort of subjective hazard level
tag as well as these objective tags, but I think the objective tags will
be much more useful in the long
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote:
+1. Please map the cause of the hazard, instead of (or at least as
well as) a vague, subjective meta-description of a conglomeration of
factors. If you are having trouble tagging any of these factors, e.g.
traffic flow,
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 02:36:46PM -0400, john whelan wrote:
I'm also interested in this as Ottawa has recommended cycling routes
mainly between cycle lanes and cycle paths how should they be tagged?
Easy: as 'route' relations (with 'network=lcn' probably).
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Personally I don't mind if they add some sort of subjective hazard level tag
as well as these objective tags, but I think the objective tags will be much
Toby Murray wrote:
Someone in my area is starting up a new website that is focused on
cycling in the city. They have decided to use OSM as their map which
is awesome.
Streets are not dangerous to bicyclists; ~intersections~ are
dangerous to bicyclists.
When bicyclists modify their
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:40 AM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote:
On Monday 21 June 2010 01:21:19 Roy Wallace wrote:
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Personally I don't mind if they add some sort of subjective hazard level
tag as well as these objective
2010/6/21 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
So we are going to retag all
highway=primary|secondary|tertiary|unclassified
to highway=road and then tag the number of lanes and their width and
surface
in stead?
That would probably piss people off. Would be fine with me, though.
this discussion (and
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, Paul Houle wrote:
Toby Murray wrote:
Someone in my area is starting up a new website that is focused on
cycling in the city. They have decided to use OSM as their map which
is awesome.
Streets are not dangerous to bicyclists; ~intersections~ are
dangerous to
Well it sounds like others agree that this could be useful information
but there doesn't seem to be an existing standard.
John: you can put roads that are official bike routes into a relation
with these tags:
type=route
route=bicycle
network=lcn
I believe this will cause them to be rendered with
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 3:07 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
There is various organisations that label tracks as various difficulty
levels, maybe there is an organisation that has come up with a hazard
rating system?
I just hope that you will not fail like the 'smoothness'
It might be better to tag all the roads which are known to be good and safe
for cyclists to use. Perhaps cycle=recommended might be a good tag.
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On 20 June 2010 21:19, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
It might be better to tag all the roads which are known to be good and safe
for cyclists to use. Perhaps cycle=recommended might be a good tag.
Black and white rarely exist in the real world, you'd need some kind
of scale so routing
There's a school of thought that would like to see cycle maps produced
in this way (the people in Cheltenham call it the Cheltenham
standard), using a 5-point scale (roughly: dead-quiet, ok if you can
manage a straight line, need to be able to deal with a few cars, need
to be able to look over
On the Greater Victoria Cycling Coalitions (copyrighted :-( Map) they
list 'busy' intersections that requre the cyclist to 'blender with
fast traffic' as adiquate infrastructure doesnt exist.
They use a yellow circle around the intersection.
However, in sometowns, EVERY intersection that doesnt
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Richard Mann
richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
There's a school of thought that would like to see cycle maps produced
in this way (the people in Cheltenham call it the Cheltenham
standard), using a 5-point scale (roughly: dead-quiet, ok if you can
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Personally I don't mind if they add some sort of subjective hazard level tag
as well as these objective tags, but I think the objective tags will be much
more useful in the long term.
+1. Please map the cause of the hazard, instead
Someone in my area is starting up a new website that is focused on
cycling in the city. They have decided to use OSM as their map which
is awesome. The question is: are there any tagging conventions to
indicate how dangerous a particular stretch of road is to cyclists?
They want to produce a map
I'm also interested in this as Ottawa has recommended cycling routes mainly
between cycle lanes and cycle paths how should they be tagged?
Thanks John
On 19 June 2010 13:51, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
Someone in my area is starting up a new website that is focused on
cycling in
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
They want to produce a map of the city that highlights the dangerous
roads to avoid in order to show how they act as barriers and make it
very difficult to move around town on a bicycle.
Sounds like it's in both their
On 20 June 2010 06:17, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
At the very least some sort of note=* explaining *why* the road is
considered hazardous would be nice.
There is various organisations that label tracks as various difficulty
levels, maybe there is an organisation that has come up with a
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