Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
2015-01-25 14:26 GMT+01:00 Bernd Weigelt weigelt.be...@web.de: Am Sonntag, 25. Januar 2015, 12:09:39 schrieb Maarten Deen: But are there a lot of these repair stations around? I know of none. We ususally have our bikes repared in a bike shop. In Germany many repair stations called 'Radstation' are supported by the Caritas organisation example http://www.radstationbonn.de/ I wouldn't tag these a repair stations, please have a look at the wiki to see what this tag is intended for: (A public bicycle repair area, typically featuring tools, a pump and a repair stand.) (A shop that offers bicycle repair should be tagged as a shop. This tag is intended for standalone repair stations which are typically located outside and open 24/7.) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_repair_station And have a look at the picture: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:BikeRepairMonterrey.JPG cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
With only 50 some nodes, it is hard to argue for rendering. I don't think rendering is important here. What would be much better is a very simple smartphone app just to find the nearest one and then also just integrate it in all the existing bicycle maps. __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
I finally found the one on the Campus of KU Leuven in Heverlee (Belgium) https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3312266873#map=17/50.86920/4.69259layers=C Jo 2015-01-26 10:13 GMT+01:00 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk: On Mon Jan 26 07:37:57 2015 GMT, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: The locations I field checked were all findable, but had positioning errors consistent with smartphone GPS units, up to 30 meters. In each case I was able to find the station in a field check, then manually rectify the exact location. It was a lot easier to field check these knowing the approximate location, rather than simply wandering all over town searching for bike repair stands. I think this is a good example of where notes are the way to go. A badly positioned node is only likely to be spotted by a mapper who is specifically interested in bike repair stations, whereas a note will be spotted and acted upon by a more general mapper visiting an area. The note can contain info on how to tag or a reference to one that has been properly surveyed. Phil (trigpoint ) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: On Mon Jan 26 07:37:57 2015 GMT, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: The locations I field checked were all findable, but had positioning errors consistent with smartphone GPS units, up to 30 meters. In each case I was able to find the station in a field I think this is a good example of where notes are the way to go. A badly positioned node is only likely to be spotted by a mapper who is specifically interested in bike repair stations, whereas a note will be spotted and acted upon by a more general mapper visiting an area. The note can contain info on how to tag or a reference to one that has been properly surveyed. It seems messy, but I could import the 500 repair stations each with a 'note' that says it needs field checking. Would people really want that? --- This still won't find all the wacky ways people have tagged existing stations (e.g. bike rack with capacity zero). But might focus attention on the bike infrastructure in the area of the note. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: Note for rendering. There appear to be stations that are under lock and key, not even permissive: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3190431752/history that I would not want to see mapped on a general purpose map. Isn't that what access=private is for? Still could be useful for landmark navigation. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 3:56 AM, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 25/01/2015 05:20, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Where do OSM cycling enthusiasts hang out : is there a mailing list or group focused on cycling features? #osm-gb on IRC. :) (I'm only half joking - the channel topic is usually Pubs and cycle routes a speciality) Opening a (text, please, group ok! I sleep during the day!) hangout to ba...@ursamundi.org or +1-918-512-1012 can often get you my thoughts around the next time I grab my phone (if it's not within arm's reach, send help...) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
On Mon Jan 26 07:37:57 2015 GMT, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: The locations I field checked were all findable, but had positioning errors consistent with smartphone GPS units, up to 30 meters. In each case I was able to find the station in a field check, then manually rectify the exact location. It was a lot easier to field check these knowing the approximate location, rather than simply wandering all over town searching for bike repair stands. I think this is a good example of where notes are the way to go. A badly positioned node is only likely to be spotted by a mapper who is specifically interested in bike repair stations, whereas a note will be spotted and acted upon by a more general mapper visiting an area. The note can contain info on how to tag or a reference to one that has been properly surveyed. Phil (trigpoint ) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
On 25/01/2015 05:20, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Where do OSM cycling enthusiasts hang out : is there a mailing list or group focused on cycling features? #osm-gb on IRC. :) (I'm only half joking - the channel topic is usually Pubs and cycle routes a speciality) Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
talk-nl and nl forum. The Netherlands and the northern part of Belgium are great for cycling so we have a lot of dedicated infrastructure. Polyglot 2015-01-25 10:56 GMT+01:00 SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk: On 25/01/2015 05:20, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Where do OSM cycling enthusiasts hang out : is there a mailing list or group focused on cycling features? #osm-gb on IRC. :) (I'm only half joking - the channel topic is usually Pubs and cycle routes a speciality) Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
On 2015-01-25 11:07, Jo wrote: talk-nl and nl forum. The Netherlands and the northern part of Belgium are great for cycling so we have a lot of dedicated infrastructure. But are there a lot of these repair stations around? I know of none. We ususally have our bikes repared in a bike shop. Maarten 2015-01-25 10:56 GMT+01:00 SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk: On 25/01/2015 05:20, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Where do OSM cycling enthusiasts hang out : is there a mailing list or group focused on cycling features? #osm-gb on IRC. :) (I'm only half joking - the channel topic is usually Pubs and cycle routes a speciality) Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
I just added two more stations which I visited myself :) In Germany you could start a week challenge. It is used as a current format to generate more entries for a particular topic. See here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wochenaufgabe tbsprs ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
Great idea. I added three in the Tricity area, Poland. Two at the Gdańsk University of Technology campus, one at the InfoBox in Gdynia. There may be more, but these are the ones I know of. Anyway, if newer tagging scheme will be agreed upon, you may freely re-tag them. On a side note: To be even more useful, these stations could feature a vending machine (presumably electricity-less - like these with small toys in capsules or... more adult-oriented stuff :P) selling tire repair kits. Michał ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 3:09 AM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: But are there a lot of these repair stations around? I know of none. We usually have our bikes repaired in a bike shop. I made list of manufacturers of this type of station at http://guides.obviously.com/Public-Bicycle-Work-and-Repair-Stands-2/1925 ). And then talked to the marketing department at each one. I estimate there are some 5000 units worldwide, which rose sharply in 2014. I figure that OSM has a small role to play here: if everyone's smartphone bike app can FIND these stations, that will increase awareness and thus encourage universities and cities to install them. I wrote a template letter for the manufacturers to include with the stations, with instructions on how to map. My goal is that OSM become the worldwide go to map for this type of feature, and I think we can get there with everyone pitching in! The winner here will be the one with the most momentum. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 3:51 AM, Michał Brzozowski www.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Great idea. I added three in the Tricity area, Poland. Anyway, if newer tagging scheme will be agreed upon, you may freely re-tag them. Most important to me is *brand=Xx* , to help keep the vendors engaged. I also like *service:bicycle:chaintool=yes/no* as not all stations have this (sometimes) crucial tool. The iD preset has both now. On a side note: To be even more useful, these stations could feature a vending machine (presumably electricity-less - like these with small toys in capsules or... more adult-oriented stuff :P) selling tire repair kits. You mean like this? This this station offers repair, parts, tires, and tire recycling in one station: http://www.bikefixtation.com/products/ On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 5:26 AM, Bernd Weigelt weigelt.be...@web.de wrote: In Germany many repair stations called 'Radstation' are supported by the Caritas organisation example http://www.radstationbonn.de/ The *amenity=bicycle_repair_station* is meant for standalone unattended, usually outdoor, usually 24/7 stations. There's separate tagging which would indicate a shop or bike storage facility also offers DIY bike repair and tools. --- --- --- So if you participate in an OSM forum with a lot of cyclists, would you ask them have you seen an unattended bicycle repair station? What brand was it? Could you map it? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
Note for rendering. There appear to be stations that are under lock and key, not even permissive: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3190431752/history that I would not want to see mapped on a general purpose map. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:34 PM, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: In this case the node seems to be a duplicate of http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2802994130 just across the road - I'm guessing that something went wrong when checking the nodes for import? The conflation has limits, it's true. Node http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2802994130 would not be expected to match, as it is tagged only with: * name=Cycle tools and pump* There does seem to have been a few issues with some of the ones that have been imported already (I've only looked at the ones in the UK; not sure if they are typical of the rest). The majority of the locations were collected via an unusual method. The user scans a QR code at the station, for bike repair instructions. The user is asked to share their location. That point cloud becomes the mapped location. The locations I field checked were all findable, but had positioning errors consistent with smartphone GPS units, up to 30 meters. In each case I was able to find the station in a field check, then manually rectify the exact location. It was a lot easier to field check these knowing the approximate location, rather than simply wandering all over town searching for bike repair stands. - Check 'em out in your area: how good are the positions? http://www.dero.com/fixitmap/fixitmap.html There are a smattering of other attempts to map bike repair stations: http://bikepgh.org/2014/03/03/diy-bike-repair-locations-in-pittsburgh/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
Am Sonntag, 25. Januar 2015, 12:09:39 schrieb Maarten Deen: But are there a lot of these repair stations around? I know of none. We ususally have our bikes repared in a bike shop. In Germany many repair stations called 'Radstation' are supported by the Caritas organisation example http://www.radstationbonn.de/ Bernd -- amarok2 now playing: ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
On 25/01/2015 19:06, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I figure that OSM has a small role to play here: if everyone's smartphone bike app can FIND these stations, that will increase awareness and thus encourage universities and cities to install them. There does seem to have been a few issues with some of the ones that have been imported already (I've only looked at the ones in the UK; not sure if they are typical of the rest). http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3306866930 looks fairly obviously misplaced - there's a Swan Hotel just up the road, but this node seems to be in the back yard of a bank. Some discussion about the name would make sense - I wouldn't necessarily use the name of the location, unless it's actually called The Swan Hotel bike repair station (which it might be I guess, but it seems unlikely) http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3306867054#map=17/51.64923/-0.40445 is similarly called after the thing that it is in: Watford General Hospital. In this case the node seems to be a duplicate of http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2802994130 just across the road - I'm guessing that something went wrong when checking the nodes for import? Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
On 2015-01-25 20:06, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 3:09 AM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: But are there a lot of these repair stations around? I know of none. We usually have our bikes repaired in a bike shop. I made list of manufacturers of this type of station at http://guides.obviously.com/Public-Bicycle-Work-and-Repair-Stands-2/1925 [1] ). And then talked to the marketing department at each one. I estimate there are some 5000 units worldwide, which rose sharply in 2014. I figure that OSM has a small role to play here: if everyone's smartphone bike app can FIND these stations, that will increase awareness and thus encourage universities and cities to install them. I wrote a template letter for the manufacturers to include with the stations, with instructions on how to map. My goal is that OSM become the worldwide go to map for this type of feature, and I think we can get there with everyone pitching in! Of course. My comment was geared towards the suggestion that the dutch or belgian community would be an addition. To my knowledge these stations are unknwon in the Netherlands. Regards, Maarten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
Where do OSM cycling enthusiasts hang out : is there a mailing list or group focused on cycling features? On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Bryce, where are these common? Not something I've seen here (in a wide sense of the word). After talking to the main producers of the standalone bike repair stands, I estimate there are roughly 5,000 worldwide, and rapidly gaining. Should you run into a repair station, iD and JOSM now have presets for the tag. One vendor has opened their data http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Dero_Bike_Repair Note: Until now mappers have using various hacks to express this type of feature. Those included: amenity=bicycle_parking with a capacity of zero tourism=information shop=bicycle with tags indicating the shop does not sell anything Do DIY indoor repair station sometimes with little fee also qualify ? I'd say no, this tag seems to have a nice clean definition as the self service public location type station. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
2014-11-15 22:24 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_repair_station Should this not be under proposal name space ? I'm not proposing the tag, just promoting it. it should be under the proposal name space, because it is not an established tag, it has only 28 uses as of now. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
Here's one more for ya, Bryce. :-) http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Be%20A%20Mapper/diary/26357 These are cool. Thanks! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: I'd like to encourage people to map bicycle repair stations. There are only 18 in the database right now. Can we double that this week? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_repair_station The airport at Portland, Oregon (PDX) now provides a bike assembly station. This should probably be tagged as amenity:bicycle_repair_station http://bikeportland.org/2010/06/28/pdx-airport-now-offers-bike-assembly-station-35768 -- Edward. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
Am 15.11.2014 um 18:35 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com: These repair stands are distinct from an amenity=shop that fixes bicycles, as stands are self-service, typically open 24/7, and free. It's not a shop as commonly understood. in Rome and Berlin (and surely many more places) another typology of places to repair your bike are common: workshops without commercial interest. They typically do have opening hours and you go there with your bicycle to repair it yourself. Typically there will also be volunteers to look after the tools and who might help you if you kindly ask. In some of those you can also assemble a working bike from broken and abandoned/donated ones. They're not the typical shop as using them is free or they ask for a voluntary donation/fee to keep the place running. If you need spare parts you'll normally buy them in an ordinary shop and bring them there. Here's one example, currently tagged as shop, what doesn't hit it 100%: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/566512945 cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: in Rome and Berlin (and surely many more places) another typology of places to repair your bike are common: workshops without commercial interest. They typically do have opening hours and you go there with your bicycle to repair it yourself. Typically there will also be volunteers to look after the tools and who might help you if you kindly ask. In some of those you can also assemble a working bike from broken and abandoned/donated ones. They're not the typical shop as using them is free or they ask for a voluntary donation/fee to keep the place running. If you need spare parts you'll normally buy them in an ordinary shop and bring them there. Here's one example, currently tagged as shop, what doesn't hit it 100%: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/566512945 We have one a community bike workshop in Cambridge called Wondergears. http://wondergearsbicycleworkshop.wordpress.com/ http://www.camcycle.org.uk/newsletters/115/article15.html It is just tagged as a building: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/262729747 -- Edward. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
These are an increasingly common fixture in the US, particularly in cities that have a green movement (rare, here, I know). I know of one at Guthrie Green (but having a hard time getting a good fix on it) and one unusually well-equipped one at Portland International Airport (I believe this one's mapped; this one's got extra uncommon fixtures necessary for a full teardown or buildup of a bike so you can ride your bike to the airport, take it apart, box it and check it as luggage; I believe KLM worked with the Portland Bicycle Transportation Alliance to get that one installed as Portland has nonstop flights to Amsterdam for some strange reason, essentially making that KLM flight the connecting link between the Portland LCN, Oregon RCN and Amsterdam LCN...). On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 5:51 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Bryce, where are these common? Not something I've seen here (in a wide sense of the word). Simon Am 15.11.2014 02:32, schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: I'd like to encourage people to map bicycle repair stations. There are only 18 in the database right now. Can we double that this week? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_repair_station -- Separately I'm torn if it's better to map operator= for the party responsible or operated_by=. The first form results in many renderings of the name, which is usually not helpful. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
I've just added the ones at the Portland Airport from memory. On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: These are an increasingly common fixture in the US, particularly in cities that have a green movement (rare, here, I know). I know of one at Guthrie Green (but having a hard time getting a good fix on it) and one unusually well-equipped one at Portland International Airport (I believe this one's mapped; this one's got extra uncommon fixtures necessary for a full teardown or buildup of a bike so you can ride your bike to the airport, take it apart, box it and check it as luggage; I believe KLM worked with the Portland Bicycle Transportation Alliance to get that one installed as Portland has nonstop flights to Amsterdam for some strange reason, essentially making that KLM flight the connecting link between the Portland LCN, Oregon RCN and Amsterdam LCN...). On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 5:51 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Bryce, where are these common? Not something I've seen here (in a wide sense of the word). Simon Am 15.11.2014 02:32, schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: I'd like to encourage people to map bicycle repair stations. There are only 18 in the database right now. Can we double that this week? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_repair_station -- Separately I'm torn if it's better to map operator= for the party responsible or operated_by=. The first form results in many renderings of the name, which is usually not helpful. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
Bryce, where are these common? Not something I've seen here (in a wide sense of the word). Simon Am 15.11.2014 02:32, schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: I'd like to encourage people to map bicycle repair stations. There are only 18 in the database right now. Can we double that this week? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_repair_station -- Separately I'm torn if it's better to map operator= for the party responsible or operated_by=. The first form results in many renderings of the name, which is usually not helpful. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
Some are appearing (almost all are new, from this year) in Kraków (major city in Poland). 2014-11-15 12:51 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch: Bryce, where are these common? Not something I've seen here (in a wide sense of the word). Simon Am 15.11.2014 02:32, schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: I'd like to encourage people to map bicycle repair stations. There are only 18 in the database right now. Can we double that this week? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_repair_station -- Separately I'm torn if it's better to map operator= for the party responsible or operated_by=. The first form results in many renderings of the name, which is usually not helpful. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
Erlangen,Germany,opposite to the central Rathaus ,o) BR, Marek Dnia 15 listopada 2014 12:51 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch napisał(a): Bryce, where are these common? Not something I've seen here (in a wide sense of the word). Simon Am 15.11.2014 02:32, schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: I'd like to encourage people to map bicycle repair stations. There are only 18 in the database right now. Can we double that this week? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_repair_station -- Separately I'm torn if it's better to map operator= for the party responsible or operated_by=. The first form results in many renderings of the name, which is usually not helpful. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Bryce, where are these common? Not something I've seen here (in a wide sense of the word). Simon They're showing up all over the United States. Every new Whole Foods Market seems to have one. They're typical on new rail trail and bike bridge projects. And pretty common on college campus with a tradition of cycling. Here's one vendor: http://www.dero.com/products/fixit/ For a picture of it installed see: http://www.dero.com/images/products/fixit/fixit-gallery-1.jpg These repair stands are distinct from an amenity=shop that fixes bicycles, as stands are self-service, typically open 24/7, and free. It's not a shop as commonly understood. Some people have tagged these as amenity=compresed_air, but that's not quite right either. A gas station air hose should be thusly tagged, but a bike repair station also features tools, presta valve adapters for bike tires, and a stand to hold a bike. --- --- --- --- --- --- Remember that OSM has an open tagging system. Often a new type of mapping will undergo some tagging chaos as convention develops. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
Am 15.11.2014 um 02:32 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: I'd like to encourage people to map bicycle repair stations. There are only 18 in the database right now. Can we double that this week? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_repair_station Should this not be under proposal name space ? Probably better mentioned on tagging@: Do DIY indoor repair station sometimes with little fee also qualify ? cu colliar signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 1:04 PM, colliar colliar4e...@aol.com wrote: Am 15.11.2014 um 02:32 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: I'd like to encourage people to map bicycle repair stations. There are only 18 in the database right now. Can we double that this week? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_repair_station Should this not be under proposal name space ? I'm not proposing the tag, just promoting it. Besides: proposals often fair poorly unless there is a certain critical mass of mapped objects and mappers. With OSM's free tagging system, the wiki is not the only first step for new tags. Do DIY indoor repair station sometimes with little fee also qualify ? I've never see a fee-based tool rack, but if you've got an example do map it. I'd tag such a thing. indoor=yes fee=yes And perhaps with: opening_hours=destination With destination designating that the opening hours are identical to the enclosing element. I know that's a weak solution, but it's more robust that copying the opening hours from the enclosing shop or facility. But not if it's a periodic event, such as the weekly fix your bike session a local bike shop runs. That feels different. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far
I'd like to encourage people to map bicycle repair stations. There are only 18 in the database right now. Can we double that this week? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_repair_station -- Separately I'm torn if it's better to map operator= for the party responsible or operated_by=. The first form results in many renderings of the name, which is usually not helpful. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
