Re: [OSM-talk] reconverting google mapmakers

2009-07-07 Thread Ivan Garcia
Hi all, what I meant with my proposal is not any sort of an agreesive email to the mapmaker users or anything like that. It's just a message telling them the existence of OSM, their advantages over Google Maps (availability of the nodes, open source license, good for tourism, good for local

Re: [OSM-talk] reconverting google mapmakers

2009-07-07 Thread John Smith
gmap people, 'cause Google already knows our map is better. Maybe in your area, but speaking from experience Australia is very poorly mapped out except for metro areas. There is large areas that look empty but really aren't, there is back roads all over the place, they just haven't been

Re: [OSM-talk] reconverting google mapmakers

2009-07-07 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 7/7/09, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap#History I'm looking forward to seeing New Zealand fully complete.  (It looks like it will be done faster than Canada though :(  ... with the LINZ data, and other other stuff. I'd

Re: [OSM-talk] reconverting google mapmakers

2009-07-07 Thread simon
I think you guys can do the same, let's try to let know the google mapmakers that there is a project similar of what they are doing named OpenStreetMap where their efforts will not be closed later by any company or similar. I think that there is a certain problem with 'cold calling' anybody

Re: [OSM-talk] reconverting google mapmakers

2009-07-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ivan Garcia wrote: what I meant with my proposal is not any sort of an agreesive email to the mapmaker users or anything like that. It's just a message telling them the existence of OSM, their advantages over Google Maps (availability of the nodes, open source license, good for tourism,

Re: [OSM-talk] reconverting google mapmakers

2009-07-07 Thread Ivan Garcia
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Would there not be a considerable outcry if Map Maker activists were to mass e-mail OSM contributors telling them about the existence of Map Maker and its advantages over OSM? Suggested reading:

Re: [OSM-talk] reconverting google mapmakers

2009-07-07 Thread David Earl
Ivan Garcia wrote: those that didn't want to participated instead they gave their opinions why they don't like OSM which is a good feedback to learn and improve. Do share... David ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] reconverting google mapmakers

2009-07-07 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Ivan Garciacapisc...@gmail.com wrote: I woudn't call it spamming cause we are not selling frigerators or viagra to google map makers, IMHO mass or semi-mass mailing people that didn't subscribe to your mailing list is borderline spam, even if you're asking for

[OSM-talk] reconverting google mapmakers

2009-07-06 Thread Ivan Garcia
Hi all, as an OSM evangelizer I realize that convincing people that has not too much interest on GIS to join the OSM army is a bit difficult, that's why I had the idea of going to the http://www.google.com/mapmaker site and contact by mail the contributors and try to convince them to join the OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] reconverting google mapmakers

2009-07-06 Thread Chris Browet
By scrolling the map you'll realize that in the bottom-right side of the screen will appear the top contributors and if you are lucky they will have a google profile where you can send them a email, or contact them trough their blog, google picassa, etc How good the intent, I'm not convinced

Re: [OSM-talk] reconverting google mapmakers

2009-07-06 Thread maning sambale
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Chris Browetc...@semperpax.com wrote: How good the intent, I'm not convinced by the means... Agreed, it is a bit of hardsell. What we need to do is show them what we can do with the data. In the Philippines, the best case would be how to load them in their

Re: [OSM-talk] reconverting google mapmakers

2009-07-06 Thread Aun Yngve Johnsen
On 06/07/2009, at 21:04, Chris Browet wrote: By scrolling the map you'll realize that in the bottom-right side of the screen will appear the top contributors and if you are lucky they will have a google profile where you can send them a email, or contact them trough their blog, google

Re: [OSM-talk] reconverting google mapmakers

2009-07-06 Thread Sam Vekemans
Oh this is a good one. :) -i had to add my 2 sence. OSM is already better than gmaps :) anyway, our aim is not to convince gmap people, 'cause Google already knows our map is better. What we can do is be printing out the map and giving it out to bikeshops, hotels, tourist offices for free. My