Re: [Talk-de] F: Kreuzungsfreiheit bei trunk
Am 11.01.2015 um 03:20 schrieb Michael Kugelmann: Im Gegensatz zu Autobahnen können Kraftfahrstraßen von anderen Straßen plangleich gekreuzt werden. Der Verkehr an Knotenpunkten wird dann meist über Ampeln oder Kreisverkehre geregelt. ist was OT gibts in den NL eigentlich noch ne Autobahn wo die Gleise auf gleicher Ebene die Autoban kreuzten (Bahnschranke). Ich habe vor etlichen Jahren mal dort ne Zeitlang davor gestanden. Caronna ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[OSM-talk-fr] JOSM historique
Bonjour, L'avant-dernière mise à jour de JOSM a supprimé le dialogue historique : /Suppression du dialogue d'historique au profit d'un bouton d'historique dans le dialogue de sélection/ depuis, j'ai beau chercher le nouveau bouton, je ne le trouve pas ; l'âge venant la vue se dégrade Help où se trouve-t-il ? Je suis allé dans sélection, dans la boîte à outils ??? cordialement Lenny ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[Talk-bf] weeklyOSM en français
Bonjour, Nous sommes fiers de vous annoncer la naissance de la version française de weeklyOSM. Les éditions n°231 et n°232 de weeklyOSM viennent de paraître en français. Retrouvez sur http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/ votre petit condensé de l'actualité du monde d'OSM. Bonne lecture ! L'équipe francophone de weeklyOSM est relativement récente. Nous nous présenterons prochainement. Veuillez s'il vous plaît relayer cette nouvelle sur les canaux de diffusion habituels de vos différentes communautés francophones. Merci et à bientôt ! ___ Talk-bf mailing list Talk-bf@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-bf
[Talk-cz] Tracer-testing - nová verze
Ahoj, díky usilovné Martinově práci (díky, díky, díky), jsem mohl vydat novou verzi traceru. *Novinky:** **) LPIS: přidány nové typy *) Přidáno automatické stahování oblasti kolem trasovaného objektu - trasování se nepřeruší kvůli prťavému kousku mimo staženou oblast *) Pokud se při přetrasování zjistí nějaký konflikt v tagování (třeba church vs, residental) - zobrazí se dialog, kde lze konflikt vyřešit. *) Klasický modul byl převeden na nový (společný) kód *) Vyčištění kódu - zahození zastaralého kódu. Kompletní seznam změn: https://github.com/mkyral/josm-tracer/pull/13 Pomalu se to blíží k dokonalosti ;-) Díky Martine. Marián ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] ŘOPíky
Jj urcite by nejaky posveceni cele akce stalo za to... L. __ Od: Lukáš Gebauer gebyl...@mlp.cz Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 10.01.2015 13:13 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] ŘOPíky Dne 10.1.2015 v 12:44 Karel Volný napsal(a): no, víme něco jiného, než že ropiky.net nás ignorují? - http://forum.ropiky.net/tema.php?id=1244118437 a když se Da se rict, ze vsechny ROPiky jsou na nasem uzemi zmapovane (od dochovanych, pres poskozene, rozestavene, az po planovane, co se ani stavet nezacaly). Takze mit v mape ty dochovane a poskozene, by asi rozumne bylo. Zbytek uz moc orientacni prvek neni, a zajimat to bude jen pro bunkrology, kteri si to najdou jinde. Ony ty ropiky.net bezi uz nejakou dobu vlastne samospadem. Tam se asi zadne reakce nedockas. Nicmene data tak uplne nedostupna nejsou. Treba me se podarilo narazit na jednoho z hlavnich lidi a vyjednat toto: http://www.geocaching.cz/blog/25/entry-219-%C5%99op%C3%ADkat%C3%BD-geoget-ii/ Tu databazi z toho Geogetu lze exportovat do GPX, nebo cehokoliv jineho, ma to uzivatelsky definovane exportni skripty. Takze ja za soucasne situace verim, ze ziskani dat pro OSM nebude neprekonatelny problem. Mam se pokusit vyhrabat email na toho cloveka? Lukas. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk-be] PT mapping in België, mappen van OV in België, Transport en commun en Belgique
Het blogentry is nu vertaald (en weer wat aangepast) naar het Nederlands. De Engelstalige versie heb 'k verplaatst naar mijn OSM-dagboek. http://osm.be/nl/content/mapping-public-transport-belgium 2015-01-09 13:07 GMT+01:00 Jo winfi...@gmail.com: Hi, After/during a discussion with our German colleagues, I wrote this blog entry: http://osm.be/nl/content/mapping-public-transport-belgium Let me know what you think about it. It's still work in progress. I wasn't quite ready with it, but now it got mentioned on the German Wochennotiz, I'd better move forward with it. I tried to be honest about some details I managed to get wrong along the way. (order of itinerary first, then stops) And some things which I feel are not well taken care of in version 2 of the PT scheme. (stop_areas comprising stop attributes on both sides of the road, instead of a hierarchically organised tree structure). The biggest difference being that I wouldn't consider mapping bus stops on platform ways or multipolygons, but on dedicated nodes only. On the one hand this is incompatible with the MapCSS I developed, on the other it makes comparing a somewhat bigger challenge. Voorlopig is er nog geen Nederlandse vertaling. Ik zal die maken als ik min of meer tevreden ben met de inhoud. De Engelse versie verplaats ik dan waarschijnlijk naar m'n OSM diary/dagboek. Ik heb getracht om eerlijk te zijn over de zaken die ik de voorbije weken heb bijgeleerd, waar ik blijkbaar in de fout ben gegaan bij het interpreteren van de regeltjes. (ik doe eerst de reisweg, dan de haltes). Een stop_area per straatkant en niet voor alle haltes die in elkaars buurt liggen tegelijk, daarvoor dient een boomstructuur met een stop_area_group. Het grootste verschil zit 'm erin dat ik nooit zou overwegen om haltes op iets anders dan nodes te mappen, enerzijds omdat m'n MapCSS dan niet meer zou werken, anderzijds omdat dat het vergelijken wat lastiger maakt. Pour l'instant ce n'est pas encore traduit en français. Je le ferai une fois que je serai content avec le contenu. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [Talk-it] Accenti nei nomi di luogo
On 2015-01-10 at 19:56:08 +0100, Paolo Monegato wrote: Il 09/01/2015 13:44, Elena ``of Valhalla'' ha scritto: La maggior parte delle lingue locali italiane a quanto ne so hanno un'ortografia standardizzata A me non risulta. esempi di lingua locale per la quale non esiste neanche un'ortografia standardizzata? Di fatto vorrebbe dire che è una lingua esclusivamente parlata, che non ha una letteratura: non mi risulta che ce ne siano. anche se ci sono casi con più ortografie in competizione tra di loro (ad esempio per il lombardo c'è un'ortografia milanese (con aspetti di ispirazione francese) ed una ticinese con aspetti di ispirazione tedesca)). Ce ne sono anche molte altre. sì, era solo un'esempio, anche le altre lingue italiane sono in una situazione simile. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-de] F: Kreuzungsfreiheit bei trunk
Gemaess http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrunk ist trunk in DE eine Autobahnaehnliche Strasse (mit expliziter Referenz zu http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobahn%C3%A4hnliche_Stra%C3%9Fe), also nicht eine Kraftfahrstrasse (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraftfahrstra%C3%9Fe) Volker 2015-01-11 3:20 GMT+01:00 Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de: Am 09.01.2015 um 15:23 schrieb Andreas Neumann: trunk soll bei autobahnähnlichen Ausbauzustand verwendet werden. Die Schnellstraße in Jena ist zum Teil so gebaut, jedoch hat sie nun an einigen Stellen Fußgängerampeln. Meiner Meinung nach, ist sie damit nicht mehr Kreuzungsfrei. Sehe ich das falsch? Zitat von https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraftfahrstra%C3%9Fe -- Im Gegensatz zu Autobahnen können Kraftfahrstraßen von anderen Straßen plangleich gekreuzt werden. Der Verkehr an Knotenpunkten wird dann meist über Ampeln oder Kreisverkehre geregelt. -- Eine Kraftfahrstraße würde ich sehr wohl als trunk taggen... Just my 2 cents, Michael. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: weeklyOSM en français
Quelle bonne nouvelle ! C'est en ligne sur http://openstreetmap.fr/ retweeté et annoncé sur https://www.facebook.com/osmfr Merci à l'équipe agrandie de weeklyOSM Le 11 janvier 2015 01:12, althio althio althio.fo...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, Nous sommes fiers de vous annoncer la naissance de la version française de weeklyOSM. Les éditions n°231 et n°232 de weeklyOSM viennent de paraître en français. Retrouvez sur http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/ votre petit condensé de l'actualité du monde d'OSM. Bonne lecture ! L'équipe francophone de weeklyOSM est relativement récente. Nous nous présenterons prochainement. Veuillez s'il vous plaît relayer cette nouvelle sur les canaux de diffusion habituels de vos différentes communautés francophones. Merci et à bientôt ! ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] JOSM historique
Dans la fenêtre sélection, tu as un bouton en bas à droite. Le 11 janv. 2015 11:46, lenny lenny.li...@orange.fr a écrit : Bonjour, L'avant-dernière mise à jour de JOSM a supprimé le dialogue historique : *Suppression du dialogue d'historique au profit d'un bouton d'historique dans le dialogue de sélection* depuis, j'ai beau chercher le nouveau bouton, je ne le trouve pas ; l'âge venant la vue se dégrade Help où se trouve-t-il ? Je suis allé dans sélection, dans la boîte à outils ??? cordialement Lenny ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Townland Mapping in Ireland (an update)
So its been over 2 months since my last one of these mails so I wanted to give you all a fresh update. Since the last mail, on Nov 1, over 6,000 additional townlands have been mapped. In other words, 10% of all townlands for the whole country were done in the last 10 weeks. That is staggering! In terms of counties, the following were complete up to my last mail Carlow Longford Fermanagh You can now add the following to those Offaly, Sligo Westmeath Based on info from townlands.ie, the following counties are currently underway and are due to be finished in 18 months (or less) Antrim (2 weeks) Clare (6 months) Dublin (17 months) Galway (12 months) Kildare (15 months) Laois (15 months) Leitrim (6 months) Meath (2 months) Wexford (3 months) Wicklow (3 months) That will bring us to a total of 16 fully mapped counties out of 32 or 50% which is fantastic but it still leaves a big gap in terms of completing the remaining list of counties: Armagh Cavan Cork Derry Donegal Down Kerry Kilkenny Limerick Louth Mayo Monaghan Roscommon Tipperary Tyrone Waterford If you are reading this and you have not yet mapped any townlands, don't be shy. there is a bit of a learning curve to it, but once you get going you will fly along at it. As has been mentioned many times, there is a full wiki page with walk through videos, guides, FAQ etc all available here - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ireland/Mapping_Townlands Thanks, Dave On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, As most of you on this list might have guessed, given the amount of townland mapping related mails floating about, the response to this project has been, in a word, fantastic! In my original mail below you can see I mentioned that based on the progress at the time of sending, that we were on track to take 11 years to finishin 2025. I can happily report that based on the amount of people recently pitching in with this project that the eta for completion is now down to approx 18 months!! This is due to the fact that with a load of people chipping in, we are now adding just shy of 100 townlands a day to OSM. It just goes to show that the old adage of many hands make light work holds true. In terms of round numbers, we broke 12,000 yesterday so we are 20% of the way there. Some other townland related news: - Donal (IrlJidel) has set up a new map showing the current coverage of townlands for the country. This map now receives hourly updates (roughly 8 mins past the hour). It also shows the county, barony civil parish boundaries that have been added. You can view this here - http://dev3.openstreetmap.ie/osm/slippymap.html - Some good news on the GSI sheets, there is a possibility of a set of replacements for those in the works. Cormac (Boggedy) is in contact with a library in England that may be able to supply fresh scans that we can use to replace those GSI sheets as they are simply too difficult for most people to use due to their quality. More news on this once there's something to report. - The FAQ has been updated with many questions which have come up here and in IRC so take a look there if you have any questions, it may already be answered for you. - I'm planning a refresh of some of the content of the videos based on feedback and pointers I've received. Don't worry if you have already watched them, or were planning to, I will release a separate video with all the updated bits collected together so you won't need to go back and watch them again. Most of the updates relate to a bit of fine tuning or slight corrections/improvements to the instruction so overall there will be no huge changes Finally, to give you some idea of where there is activity, below is a list of all counties broken into 3 groups, completed, in progress and not being mapped. This is purely to show that while we've had a great response, there are still a lot of areas that some attention, so if there is anybody out there thinking about joining in, don't worry, it's really not that complicated once you get going. == Completed == Carlow Longford Fermanagh == In Progress == Antrim Cavan Clare Donegal Dublin Galway Offaly Roscommon Sligo Tyrone Westmeath (this is being mapped at an extraordinary rate) Wicklow == Not Being Mapped == Armagh Cork Derry Down Kerry Kilkenny Laois Limerick Louth Mayo Meath Monaghan Tipperary Waterford Thanks, Dave On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I wanted to let you all know (though some of you are aware) that we now have a wiki page setup that details the process of townland mapping in Ireland, from start to finish. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ireland/Mapping_Townlands Included on this page are: - Some basic stats on the current qty of townlands in the OpenStreetMap database - A high level overview of the process from start to finish - An
Re: [Talk-pe] [talk-latam] Reunión de comunidad OSM Perú
Oh, y gracias para mencionar Mapillary. Tengo un nuevo juegito a probar... y nosotros podemos llegar donde las Google Streetview Cars nunca irán. Polyglot 2015-01-11 13:26 GMT+01:00 Jo winfi...@gmail.com: Hola Johnattan, Podrían agregar el wms mencionado ayer a esa pagina: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps no logré de instalarlo en mi JOSM con el url mencionado. Una vez que estará en esa pagina, es trivial de agregarlo para los usuarios. No he podido seguir toda la conversación. Ya era bastante tarde aqui. Una vez que la tarea esta en el tasking manager, puedo mencionarlo en la lista belga (y francesa, holandesa, alemán) si les gusta, pero no tengo idea si habra mucho voluntários. La mayoria de los mapeadores 'couch' ya están ocupados con proyectos HOT en África y Ásia, pienso. Yo mismo, sobre todo estoy ocupado con mapear el transporte público en Bélgica. No solo mapear pero, también estoy desarollando scripts para asistir con las partes aburridos. Depiende de la disponibilidad de datos de los operatores, pero: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLO3wjvbFUESEZ2P-jKzYqtr7HzIs0KXJu El primer video tiene subtítulos en inglés y holandés. Quizas un día podré revisar el mapeo del transporte público en Cusco. Pero donde encontrar los datos 'fuente'? Estoy casi segúro que no son unicamente los conductores quines deciden sobre las rutas. Polyglot 2015-01-10 21:54 GMT+01:00 Johnattan Rupire jarja...@riseup.net: o Chromium ya estamos online... El 10/01/15 a las 21:48, Jo escribió: Para quienes no están en Lima, hay este canal de teleconferencia: https://meet.jit.si/osmpe Solo funciona en Chrome, pero. Polyglot 2015-01-05 19:01 GMT+01:00 Johnattan Rupire jarja...@riseup.net: Entonces, queda convocada la reunión a las 16.00 hrs. Saludos!! ___ Talk-pe mailing list Talk-pe@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pe ___ talk-latam mailing listtalk-latam@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-latam ___ Talk-pe mailing list Talk-pe@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pe ___ Talk-pe mailing list Talk-pe@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pe
[Talk-us] RE; Bike route relation issues
Regarding the Great Divide Mountain Bike Route: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3161159 I have three comments: 1) The first one is that as far as I know it is not signposted, so it should not be in OSM as a relation. Only if the ACA have plans to put signs up, it could became a proposed route (state=proposed). OSM is not the place to put unsigned routes, even if they are very important. Obviously this issue is for Kerry Irons to answer, as its one of their routes 2) if it is to be in OSM it is a national route (ncn) 3) if it is a Mountain bike Route by name, I suppose it is also in reality, so most likely it would be route=mtb (Kerry to decide) Obviously it would be a pity to lose all the work Jimmy FL has put in it, but OSM should not become the repository of private routes. Volker Padova/Italy ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk] Keeping imported data updated with source changes
Hi Wiktor I maintain an import of public transport stops in Switzerland. These public transport stops have a unique identifier (uic_ref) which is used for example in time table applications, so we include it. But I spend quite a bit of time maintaining these refs, as mappers usually don't know and care about them. I understand your reasoning but I would advise against introducing this reference in your Import. It doesn't feel right in the OSM database and it will cause quite a bit of work to keep them tidy. That being said maybe you shouldn't aim at a 100% solution. It is very kind of you to want to make it perfect, but I think a solution which is a little bit simpler but which misses a few corner cases will be all right. (Making the corner cases miss some data to import, not destroy OSM data) I'm biased, because I maintain the tool, but: I think it helps the power mappers to have a map where they can compare OSM data with the other datasource (see http://didok.osm.ch). It shows a few things: it shows stops which are only in OSM, and in a different colour stops which are only in the data source. And it shows a line between OSM data and the data from the other source, making it easily visible where something is wrong. It also has a separate database where one can mark stops as invalid, something you will probably need as well. And then, from time to time, I propose some specific mechanical edits fixing things that are often wrong in OSM. Of course this leaves a lot of manual work, and I'm lagging behind considerably. I hope that helps, I wish you a lot of success with maintaining Polands addresses. Michael ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-de] Wie kann man Änderungen rückgängig machen?
Hallo an alle, in meiner Nähe hat Logge1456 https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Logge1456 Änderungen durchgeführt, der Änderungssatz https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/28028131 ist leider nicht kommentiert. Mir sind aufgefallen: * Die Einbahn-Richtung des Radwegs östlich der Lampertheimer Straße ist umgedreht (man kann jetzt mit dem Fahrrad auf dem Radweg nicht mehr Richtung Norden fahren), * Gebäude Nr. 156 (Eckhaus): building = gelöscht, * das Topfit Center Arthur Schnabel (mit der Adresse des Gebäudes) als node in der Mitte auf dem kombinierten Rad- und Fußweg platziert, * zwei fehlerhafte oder seltsame Abbiegerelationen eingetragen. Lage: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/49.52600/8.51110 Kontrolle der Abbiegebeschränkungen: http://map.comlu.com/?zoom=19lat=49.526147lon=8.511215layer=Grayscaleove rlays=FTT Ich war zuletzt vor zwei Monaten dort, da waren keine Änderungen absehbar. Gestern Mittag habe ich Logge1456 angeschrieben, ihm die o. g. Punkte genannt und Hilfe angeboten. Bis jetzt hat er nicht reagiert. Wahrscheinlich sind alle Änderungen falsch, aber insbesondere die falsche Radwegrichtung stört das Routing. Deshalb möchte ich die gesamten Änderungen möglichst schnell wieder rückgängig machen. Weiß jemand, wie das geht? Bernhard ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[OSM-talk-be] weeklyOSM en français
Bonjour, Nous sommes fiers de vous annoncer la naissance de la version française de weeklyOSM. Les éditions n°231 et n°232 de weeklyOSM viennent de paraître en français. Retrouvez sur http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/ votre petit condensé de l'actualité du monde d'OSM. Bonne lecture ! L'équipe francophone de weeklyOSM est relativement récente. Nous nous présenterons prochainement. Veuillez s'il vous plaît relayer cette nouvelle sur les canaux de diffusion habituels de vos différentes communautés francophones. Merci et à bientôt ! ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
Regarding the I-5 bicycle route, I looked a bit closer at this. In fact the route is most of the time on the I-5, but at the northern end in Portland it actually shows in detail the way cyclists need to take to avoid the no-cycles bit of the I-5 (see https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ie=UTF8msa=0z=10hl=enmid=zF9NcSQ7rxPw.kenRJL5pecto). In that sense the relation may make sense at its northern end, provided there is signposting on it. Otherwise no. Also there is no name in the relation and no reference to any web page or other information. Volker Padova, Italy ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-de] Wie kann man Änderungen rückgängig machen?
Am 11.01.2015 um 13:30 schrieb Bernhard Weiskopf: Weiß jemand, wie das geht? Das geht mit dem JOSM Reverter Plugin. Chris ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-dk] Ny vej Tom Kristensen Vej
Hej alle sammen Nogen lokalkendte i Hobro - Tom Kristensen har fået en vej opkaldt efter sig Tom Kristensen Vej Jeg har prøvet via flere artikler at spore hvor den vej så befinder sig men har opgivet http://sporten.tv2.dk/motorsport/2015-01-10-mere-haeder-til-tom-k-faar-vej-opkaldt-efter-sig-i-hjembyen Så hvis der er nogen i Hobro der ved dette, så tilføj vejen i OSM Vh Søren Johannessen ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] JOSM historique
Moi, j'utilise Ctrl-h pour voir l'historique dans JOSM, Ctrl-Shift-H pour le voir sur des pages web. Polyglot 2015-01-11 13:07 GMT+01:00 Jean-Baptiste Holcroft jb.holcr...@gmail.com: Dans la fenêtre sélection, tu as un bouton en bas à droite. Le 11 janv. 2015 11:46, lenny lenny.li...@orange.fr a écrit : Bonjour, L'avant-dernière mise à jour de JOSM a supprimé le dialogue historique : *Suppression du dialogue d'historique au profit d'un bouton d'historique dans le dialogue de sélection* depuis, j'ai beau chercher le nouveau bouton, je ne le trouve pas ; l'âge venant la vue se dégrade Help où se trouve-t-il ? Je suis allé dans sélection, dans la boîte à outils ??? cordialement Lenny ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
Did you leave our the word “not” from the last sentence? Kerry Oregon Department of Transportation publishes a bike map [1]. I5 is included in any of their approved routes. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [Talk-CI] weeklyOSM en français
Bonjour Althio, Merci pour l'information sur cette belle initiative. J'ai une question sur la version française : est-ce une version propre à l'équipe francophone ou bien chaque groupe WeeklyOSM traduit le même original ? Concernant la section Cartographie, je conseillerais de résumer en une phrase l'aboutissement des échanges ou la tenur de la réflexion plutôt que Untel propose de faire ceci ou Telautre demande des éclaircissements. Bien cordialement, Severin 2015-01-11 1:09 GMT+01:00 althio althio althio.fo...@gmail.com: Bonjour, Nous sommes fiers de vous annoncer la naissance de la version française de weeklyOSM. Les éditions n°231 et n°232 de weeklyOSM viennent de paraître en français. Retrouvez sur http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/ votre petit condensé de l'actualité du monde d'OSM. Bonne lecture ! L'équipe francophone de weeklyOSM est relativement récente. Nous nous présenterons prochainement. Veuillez s'il vous plaît relayer cette nouvelle sur les canaux de diffusion habituels de vos différentes communautés francophones. Merci et à bientôt ! ___ Talk-CI mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ci ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-us] RE; Bike route relation issues
Agree that the GD MTB route is a “private route” in that you need to obtain a map to figure out what the route is. Whether OSM wants to document private routes seems to be an open question. While Adventure Cycling is proud of the routes it has developed we do not claim them as “national routes” any more than a given year’s RAGBRAI cross-Iowa route deserves that recognition (RAGBRAI changes its route every year to include different parts of Iowa). This applies to dozens of other major routes and cross state rides in the US. None of them are signed and they often change from year to year. The Great Divide also spends a fair amount of its time on singletrack paths. Kerry From: Volker Schmidt [mailto:vosc...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 8:53 AM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-us] RE; Bike route relation issues Regarding the Great Divide Mountain Bike Route: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3161159 I have three comments: 1) The first one is that as far as I know it is not signposted, so it should not be in OSM as a relation. Only if the ACA have plans to put signs up, it could became a proposed route (state=proposed). OSM is not the place to put unsigned routes, even if they are very important. Obviously this issue is for Kerry Irons to answer, as its one of their routes 2) if it is to be in OSM it is a national route (ncn) 3) if it is a Mountain bike Route by name, I suppose it is also in reality, so most likely it would be route=mtb (Kerry to decide) Obviously it would be a pity to lose all the work Jimmy FL has put in it, but OSM should not become the repository of private routes. Volker Padova/Italy ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-pe] [talk-latam] Reunión de comunidad OSM Perú
Disculpen muchachos mas bien por los problemas de audio, al parecer fue el skype instalado un par de hora antes que tenia secuestrado el micrófono.Aprovecho para enviar un link del tramo realizado en el mirador del cerro San Cristobal tuve la suerte de encontrar despejado el camino debido a que se estaba realizando un operativo policial en ese momento como verán en las últimas tomas.En fin, esta semana publicaré un post en el blog de la comunidad dando más detalles de la experiencia.https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/ABy4sp8UZrMQLn0w9nG8Og Alfonso El Domingo, 11 de enero, 2015 7:29:04, Jo winfi...@gmail.com escribió: Oh, y gracias para mencionar Mapillary. Tengo un nuevo juegito a probar... y nosotros podemos llegar donde las Google Streetview Cars nunca irán. Polyglot 2015-01-11 13:26 GMT+01:00 Jo winfi...@gmail.com: Hola Johnattan, Podrían agregar el wms mencionado ayer a esa pagina: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps no logré de instalarlo en mi JOSM con el url mencionado. Una vez que estará en esa pagina, es trivial de agregarlo para los usuarios. No he podido seguir toda la conversación. Ya era bastante tarde aqui. Una vez que la tarea esta en el tasking manager, puedo mencionarlo en la lista belga (y francesa, holandesa, alemán) si les gusta, pero no tengo idea si habra mucho voluntários. La mayoria de los mapeadores 'couch' ya están ocupados con proyectos HOT en África y Ásia, pienso. Yo mismo, sobre todo estoy ocupado con mapear el transporte público en Bélgica. No solo mapear pero, también estoy desarollando scripts para asistir con las partes aburridos. Depiende de la disponibilidad de datos de los operatores, pero: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLO3wjvbFUESEZ2P-jKzYqtr7HzIs0KXJu El primer video tiene subtítulos en inglés y holandés. Quizas un día podré revisar el mapeo del transporte público en Cusco. Pero donde encontrar los datos 'fuente'? Estoy casi segúro que no son unicamente los conductores quines deciden sobre las rutas. Polyglot 2015-01-10 21:54 GMT+01:00 Johnattan Rupire jarja...@riseup.net: o Chromium ya estamos online... El 10/01/15 a las 21:48, Jo escribió: Para quienes no están en Lima, hay este canal de teleconferencia: https://meet.jit.si/osmpe Solo funciona en Chrome, pero. Polyglot 2015-01-05 19:01 GMT+01:00 Johnattan Rupire jarja...@riseup.net: Entonces, queda convocada la reunión a las 16.00 hrs. Saludos!! ___ Talk-pe mailing list Talk-pe@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pe ___ talk-latam mailing list talk-la...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-latam ___ Talk-pe mailing list Talk-pe@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pe ___ Talk-pe mailing list Talk-pe@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pe ___ Talk-pe mailing list Talk-pe@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pe
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [Talk-CI] weeklyOSM en français
Bonjour Séverin, bonjour à tous, J'ai une question sur la version française : est-ce une version propre à l'équipe francophone ou bien chaque groupe WeeklyOSM traduit le même original ? Un peu des deux. La version originale est collectée par le groupe allemand de Wochennotiz [http://blog.openstreetmap.de/]. Puis la version anglaise de weeklyOSM est établie et sert de base commune. Chaque groupe linguistique fait une traduction séparée et a une grande liberté pour retirer ou ajouter des éléments en fonction de la communauté intéressée. En tant qu'équipe francophone, nous sommes pour l'instant un peu jeunes, le travail de traduction, de mise en forme, de publication et de communication nous occupe déjà beaucoup. Comme mentionné par Jean-Baptiste, nous avons 'simplement' traduit et parfois corrigé les deux éditions les plus récentes, sans intervenir dans leur création. Peut-être que à l'avenir nous profiterons davantage de notre liberté éditoriale. Concernant le contenu, nous sommes évidemment totalement ouverts à toute proposition venant de la communauté, car nous ne pouvons pas surveiller l'ensemble des actions, discussions et projets. Si la nouvelle est à portée francophone, nous la traiterons séparément. Si la portée est plus large, la proposition peut être envoyée conjointement à weeklyOSM (toutes langues) et blog.openstreetmap.de mais on doit affiner les modes de contact et communication. Concernant la section Cartographie, je conseillerais de résumer en une phrase l'aboutissement des échanges ou la tenur de la réflexion plutôt que Untel propose de faire ceci ou Telautre demande des éclaircissements. Il faut qu'on trouve nos marques, ta proposition me semble une amélioration intéressante pour la qualité du blog. Mais c'est un travail de veille et de synthèse certainement important. Nous pouvons envisager de tels changements dans la version française, un peu plus tard. Si la communication se passe bien on pourra remonter nos suggestions dans les versions anglaise/allemande mais on n'en est pas encore là. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-ja] シンガポールの３D
マーライオンは、高さ8メートルの小さな像です。 実物は、えっ！と思うくらい地味ですね。 期待と実物の落差は、札幌の時計台に匹敵するような。 --- 大和田健一 ml.ohw...@gmail.com 三浦です。 たまたま、シンガポールの３Dマップを見ました。 http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=1.2852646lon=103.8551822zoom=17camera.theta=73.984camera.phi=112.758 http://osmbuildings.org/?lat=1.28668lon=103.85447zoom=20 シンガポールの象徴とも言える、マーライオン像なのですが、 大変寂しい表現状況です。 これって、もう少し、なんとか、ならないものでしょうか？ 鶴ケ城の素晴らしさに比べて、かわいそうになりました。 例の、屋上に馬鹿でかいプールのあるホテルは ある程度、表現されているみたいです。 スカイツリーも、エッフェル塔に負けないように頑張って欲しいですね。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
[Talk-at] Zwei Ortsnamen-Nodes
Bin gerade in Wagrain auf folgende zwei Nodes gestossen: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/240075719 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/240067923 Warum gibt's dort zwei von der Sorte und macht es Sinn? Mein erster Gedanke war ja, einen davon zu löschen, aber dann dachte ich mir, ich frage lieber bei den Kolleginnen und Kollegen nach. Also, wie ist da eure Meinung dazu? LG, Christian ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [Talk-CI] weeklyOSM en français
En fait c'est une initiative qui a commencé parmi la communauté allemande. Puis il y a eu une équipe qui a commencé de traduire une version adapté en anglais depuis quelques mois maintenant. Les autres traductions sont basées sur cette version anglaise, mais il est permis d'ajouter des points qui sont surtout intéressant pour la communauté ciblée. Pour les points qui sont intéressant pour tous, il est probablement mieux de les envoyer directement à l'équipe qui préparent la version allemande. Polyglot 2015-01-11 16:04 GMT+01:00 Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.com: Bonjour Althio, Merci pour l'information sur cette belle initiative. J'ai une question sur la version française : est-ce une version propre à l'équipe francophone ou bien chaque groupe WeeklyOSM traduit le même original ? Concernant la section Cartographie, je conseillerais de résumer en une phrase l'aboutissement des échanges ou la tenur de la réflexion plutôt que Untel propose de faire ceci ou Telautre demande des éclaircissements. Bien cordialement, Severin 2015-01-11 1:09 GMT+01:00 althio althio althio.fo...@gmail.com: Bonjour, Nous sommes fiers de vous annoncer la naissance de la version française de weeklyOSM. Les éditions n°231 et n°232 de weeklyOSM viennent de paraître en français. Retrouvez sur http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/ votre petit condensé de l'actualité du monde d'OSM. Bonne lecture ! L'équipe francophone de weeklyOSM est relativement récente. Nous nous présenterons prochainement. Veuillez s'il vous plaît relayer cette nouvelle sur les canaux de diffusion habituels de vos différentes communautés francophones. Merci et à bientôt ! ___ Talk-CI mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ci ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
The key question here, it seems to me, is whether there is any “official” body that claims these sections of I-5 to be a bicycle route. That might include bike clubs if indeed OSM decides to include “private routes” in the data base. I am not aware if any group that would suggest I-5 for a bike route in Oregon. If that is the case then it appears that this is simply someone claiming it to be a bike route by personal fiat. That opens the door to a discussion had last year about people putting personal opinion into OSM and designating it as a bicycle route. This seems to me to be a path to chaos but it is up to the OSM community to make that determination. Kerry Irons From: Volker Schmidt [mailto:vosc...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 8:35 AM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues Regarding the I-5 bicycle route, I looked a bit closer at this. In fact the route is most of the time on the I-5, but at the northern end in Portland it actually shows in detail the way cyclists need to take to avoid the no-cycles bit of the I-5 (see https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ie=UTF8 https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ie=UTF8msa=0z=10hl=enmid=zF9NcSQ7rxPw.kenRJL5pecto msa=0z=10hl=enmid=zF9NcSQ7rxPw.kenRJL5pecto). In that sense the relation may make sense at its northern end, provided there is signposting on it. Otherwise no. Also there is no name in the relation and no reference to any web page or other information. Volker Padova, Italy ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [Talk-CI] weeklyOSM en français
Pour l'instant il s'agit effectivement de deux traductions. Nous avons encore à nous organiser pour l'ajout de nouvelles plus spécifiquement Françaises. Puis encore plus pour un mécanisme de proposition commun aux différentes communautés. -- Jean-Baptiste Holcroft Le 11 janvier 2015 16:27, Jo winfi...@gmail.com a écrit : En fait c'est une initiative qui a commencé parmi la communauté allemande. Puis il y a eu une équipe qui a commencé de traduire une version adapté en anglais depuis quelques mois maintenant. Les autres traductions sont basées sur cette version anglaise, mais il est permis d'ajouter des points qui sont surtout intéressant pour la communauté ciblée. Pour les points qui sont intéressant pour tous, il est probablement mieux de les envoyer directement à l'équipe qui préparent la version allemande. Polyglot 2015-01-11 16:04 GMT+01:00 Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.com: Bonjour Althio, Merci pour l'information sur cette belle initiative. J'ai une question sur la version française : est-ce une version propre à l'équipe francophone ou bien chaque groupe WeeklyOSM traduit le même original ? Concernant la section Cartographie, je conseillerais de résumer en une phrase l'aboutissement des échanges ou la tenur de la réflexion plutôt que Untel propose de faire ceci ou Telautre demande des éclaircissements. Bien cordialement, Severin 2015-01-11 1:09 GMT+01:00 althio althio althio.fo...@gmail.com: Bonjour, Nous sommes fiers de vous annoncer la naissance de la version française de weeklyOSM. Les éditions n°231 et n°232 de weeklyOSM viennent de paraître en français. Retrouvez sur http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/ votre petit condensé de l'actualité du monde d'OSM. Bonne lecture ! L'équipe francophone de weeklyOSM est relativement récente. Nous nous présenterons prochainement. Veuillez s'il vous plaît relayer cette nouvelle sur les canaux de diffusion habituels de vos différentes communautés francophones. Merci et à bientôt ! ___ Talk-CI mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ci ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
I did! I need more coffee.. It should read: Oregon Department of Transportation publishes a bike map. I5 is not included in any of their approved routes. On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Kerry Irons irons54vor...@gmail.com wrote: Did you leave our the word “not” from the last sentence? Kerry Oregon Department of Transportation publishes a bike map [1]. I5 is included in any of their approved routes. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-es] weeklyosm #233 en español
Hola El semanario #233 de weeklyosm, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en mundo OSM está en linea en español http:/www.weeklyosm.eu/?lang=es Disfrutadlo!!___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-at] Frage zu Kunstgalerie
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 06:49:54PM +0100, Clemens Schüller wrote: Hallo! Am 11. Jän. 2015 um 18:58 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann: On 11.01.2015 16:08, Clemens Schüller wrote: Bin mir aber nicht sicher, ob das Tagset tourism:gallery dafür passt, denn das BUNT:werk[2] ist keine klassische Tourismus Location. tourism=gallery passt eigentlich für gar nichts, siehe Kommentare der Gegenstimmer auf http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Art_gallery. sollte ich ein anderes Tagset verwenden? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Darts_centre Danke, hab es soeben korrigiert - ist der Eintrag korrekt, oder gibt es da was zu verbessern? Schaut super aus. Sehr ausführlich, viele Objekte haben wesentlich weniger Informationen als das Buntwerk. Das einzige, was mir noch einfällt sind die Öffnungszeiten: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:opening_hours Weitere Frage: Unter http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3282153182 scheint bei mir im Browser nur ein oranger Kreis, _nicht_ aber der Text BUNT:werk – Atelier für kreative Begegnung auf. Dauert es einige Zeit, bis der Text auf der Karte aufscheint? Oder liegt da ein Fehler vor? Nun, leider werden im Standardstil der OSM nicht alle Objekte dargestellt, so auch derzeit amenity=arts_centre (wie auch tourism=gallery). Das wird sicher irgendwann der Fall sein, es gibt dazu auch ein Issue: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/108 Eine Karte die das Objekt darstellen würde ist http://www.openstreetbrowser.org/?zoom=17lat=47.06846lon=15.45334categories=culture%5Bculture_culture%5D , allerdings ist die Datenbank etwa vier Monate out-of-date, insofern wird es hier leider noch etwas dauern. Hier eine mit Overpass Turbo selbst gebastelte Karte um alle arts_centres darzustellen: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/6Yr gruesse, Stephan -- Seid unbequem, seid Sand, nicht Öl im Getriebe der Welt! - Günther Eich ,-. | Stephan Bösch-Plepelits,| | Technische Universität Wien -Studien Informatik Raumplanung | | Projects: | | openstreetbrowser.org couchsurfing.org tubasis.at bl.mud.at | | Contact:| | Mail: sk...@xover.mud.at Blog: plepe.at | | Twitter: twitter.com/plepe Jabber: sk...@jabber.at | `-' ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-it] Primo caso di un giudice italiano che nella sua sentenza dimostra di aver capito perfettamente le licenze Creative Commons
Ciao, vi giro questo articolo [1], preso da un'altra mailing list che frequento, che parrebbe essere il primo caso in Italia di un giudice che si occupi di Creative Commons. Fermi ad esultare: la sentenza non riguarda le sopracitate licenze, ma il giudice dimostra di aver compreso chiaramente il funzionamento delle alternative al Copyright tradizionale. Un piccolo passo avanti, per un futuro sempre più libero! [1]: http://aliprandi.blogspot.it/2015/01/francoangeli-non-capisce-creative-commons.html -- Matteo Quatrida GNU/Linux User #498939 OpenStreetMap Contributor since 2009 «Be GREEN and keep it on your SCREEN!» ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
Kerry Irons writes: By the logic that I-5 in Oregon is tagged as a bike route, then all roads in the US that don't prohibit bicycles should be tagged likewise. Obviously that logic is incorrect. There is no body, official or otherwise, that calls I-5 in Oregon a bike route. Agreed: see below about the map referenced by Clifford Snow which only notes that I-5 is an Interstate highway. No suitability or legality for bicycles is expressed (though it may be implied) by Oregon's DOT map. The legend on Oregon's State Bicycle Map, shows Interstate Freeways simply designated as such (and diminished by map color semiotics -- making them gray), no suitability or legality of Interstates for bicycles is expressed, though it may be implied by being a lesser semiotic. (As in, poor choice upon which to bicycle.) The map legend also denotes Highway Shoulder Width 4' or More (prominent: thick with red casing), Highway Shoulder Width Less then 4' (yellow and thinner) and Paved/Gravel Road Without Shoulder Data (thinner, less prominent lines yellow with gray casing or gray and very thin). Importantly, no specific mention is made about the legality of bicyclists on any particular road. So I come to a conclusion that Oregon's DOT makes no assertion of bicycle legality on any road, AND does not express any particular bicycle routes, at least with this particular map. Let us recall that it is longstanding correct data entry in OSM to enter physical infrastructure tags for bicycles (such as cycleway=lane) as well as logical infrastructure tags for bicycles (route relation data such as network=rcn). Both might be determined from either on the ground real world data such as paint on the asphalt (physical) / a Local Bike Route Number 44 sign (logical) OR from published/printed (by a government official body) data such as a map of a local or state bicycle route network. However, in the latter case of describing logical infrastructure, actual signs make route data unambiguous to put into OSM, whereas a published map without signs is a bit more controversial. I argue that a government body which says a logical bike route exists on these segments of physical infrastructure (but without signs) means that OSM can correctly contain a bicycle route relation reflecting this. This is the on the ground verifiability issue regarding signed vs. unsigned (logical) bicycle routes. We should not confuse this with using proper tags (cycleway=lane...) to describe physical bicycle infrastructure, or whether bicycling is legal on a particular segment of physical infrastructure: these are different but related issues. James Umbanhowar writes: The GDMBR issue seems to be a conflict between tagging for the renderer and tagging for the router...My opinion is that the road ways themselves should be tagged as unpaved (or tracks as many already are). Agreed, though this does not seem a conflict between tagging for the renderer and tagging for the router: tags highway=track and surface=gravel suffice to describe physical infrastructure, route=mtb and ref=GDB suffice to describe logical infrastructure. These accurately and sufficiently tag, and renderers get them right (well, they do or should). Additional tags (width=...) might not render, but if accurate, can be helpful. The I-5 thing seems strange. That is not a separate bike route but rather an interstate highway that allows bicycles. bicycle=yes on all the component ways should be sufficient. I do not agree: again, I find no evidence (from the Oregon DOT map) that bicycles are explicitly designated legal on I-5. It may be the case that explicit statute specifies bicycles are allowed on I-5 in Oregon, but this map does not explicitly do so. Again, please note that no specific bike routes are designated on that map, either. It simply displays some highways as Interstates and some highways as containing wide shoulders or narrow shoulders. While not complaining about Oregon's DOT helping bicyclists better understand where they might or might not ride a bicycle in that state, I characterize these map data as early or underdeveloped w.r.t. helpful bicycle routing by a DOT. And Richard Fairhurst asks: What does the community think? There are many issues here. One (e.g. in Oregon re: I-5) is whether any road which is legal for bicyclists should be 1) tagged with bicycle=yes and 2) be part of a bicycle route relation. From our United_States/Bicycle_Networks wiki, if a road or cycleway is tagged with a (local) Bike Route sign, without labeling or numbering of routes, ways marked as bike routes should be tagged lcn=yes, either directly or as members of a route relation. This makes sense, but it is not 1) above, it is more like 2). If a government body has posted Bike Route signs, it is clear we want lcn=yes. If a government body has published a map explicitly denoting a bicycle route (whether
Re: [Talk-cz] Tracer-testing - nová verze
Ahoj, On 11.1.2015 09:12, Marián Kyral wrote: Ahoj, díky usilovné Martinově práci (díky, díky, díky), jsem mohl vydat novou verzi traceru. Kdo si hraje, nezlobí :-) *) Pokud se při přetrasování zjistí nějaký konflikt v tagování (třeba church vs, residental) - zobrazí se dialog, kde lze konflikt vyřešit. Zatím jen u RUIAN budov, ale není problém přidat dialog i v dalších modulech. Ještě bych v něm rád odlišil staré a nové hodnoty tagů, ale nevím jestli to půjde. Jo a pokud narazíte na konflikt tagů, který si zaslouží automatické pravidlo (church = civic, transportation = train_station, ...), napište na talk-cz. Ať dialog vyskakuje co nejmíň. Martin ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
Okay, why don't we just ask the creator of the relation? I have added Paul Johnson to the conversation -- he created the first version of the relation and is usually quite active on this list anyway. Paul, what was your intention with adding I5 as a bike route? Harald. On Sun Jan 11 2015 at 11:56:23 AM Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: I did! I need more coffee.. It should read: Oregon Department of Transportation publishes a bike map. I5 is not included in any of their approved routes. On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Kerry Irons irons54vor...@gmail.com wrote: Did you leave our the word “not” from the last sentence? Kerry Oregon Department of Transportation publishes a bike map [1]. I5 is included in any of their approved routes. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-ht] Fwd: Re: DEMs for Onaville
Je profite de ce message, Pour vous souhaiter une bonne année 2015, et que la communauté OSM reste soudée et puisse se développer cette année. Cordialement, PS: Je vous partage, ci dessous, ma réponse suite à la sollication de l'université de Munich pour avoir un modèle d'elevation correcte sur la zone de Canaan. En dehors de vol drone, il y a la base de donnée OSM et la donnée libre que nous essayons de faire vivre. Cordialement, FredM Forwarded Message Subject:Re: DEMs for Onaville Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 19:15:50 +0100 From: Fred Moine frmo...@gmail.com To: Wolfgang Krötzinger wolfgang_kroetzin...@web.de CC: bj.baec...@mytum.de, andrea bozza andrea.bozza@gmail.com, Sebastian ANCAVIL ancavi...@gmail.com, bpi...@yahoo.fr, OSM-Talk-Haiti talk-ht@openstreetmap.org, ffourn...@iom.int, nicolas chavent nicolas.chav...@gmail.com, François-Xavier LAMURE TARDIEU xapit...@gmail.com, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.com, Delphine Bedu delphine.b...@gmail.com, JEAN Presler pj...@iom.int, Jean Presler preslerj...@gmail.com, pk...@iom.int Cher Wolfgang j’ai bien reçu votre alerte qui nous interpelle sur les risques de remettre en cause votre travail de plusieurs mois, fait avec votre Université de Munich, relatif aux simulations hydrologiques. Je me propose d’envoyer un document, ci-joint, aux organismes concernés afin d’accélérer ces études qui méritent, par leur intérêt, d’aller à leur fin. Merci de me tenir informédes évolutions de ce dossier. Si de mon côté j’ai un quelconque élément qui puisse vous être utile, je ne manquerai pas vous le faire savoir. Je vous souhaite tous mes vœux cordiaux pour 2015 et pour cette semaine spéciale Voir le message pour commentaire https://lite5.framapad.org/p/eFX1wa92O1 Et le message brute Bonjour, À la vue des fragilités du territoire face à la déforestation, aux glissements de terrain, les études de simulations hydrologiques menées par des étudiants de l’université de Munich, sur la zone de Canaan représentent une opportunité importante pour la gestion des risques en Haïti. Trop peu d’études ont trouvé une utilité sur le terrain, car nous avons oublié de travailler ensemble, de capitaliser et diffuser l’information. Tout ce qui a été collecté en Haïti doit revenir aux Haïtiens. Il y a eu trop de pertes, durant les 5 dernières années, */de données collectées ou d’études qui disparaissent en fin du projet/*. Nous devons effectivement construire une base de données commune pour finaliser ces méthodologies importantes et partager les résultats au plus près des réalités sur le terrain. Je remercie le CNIGS qui nous a ouvert ses portes ainsi que les contributeurs OSM et IOM pour le soutien logistique. */Est-il encore temps pour mutualiser nos moyens/*, pour continuer à alimenter ce projet qui, depuis 2011, avance vers une meilleure modélisation et des échanges d’informations plus soutenus, sur cette zone ? J’espère la réponse positive et me tourne vers ceux qui ont l’autorité pour le faire pour qu’ils relancent un tel objectif. La construction de données communes et une bonne connaissance du territoire vient d’une construction participative qui développe des savoir-faire avec une responsabilité partagée. Une telle démarche encourage les membres de la collectivité à mettre leurs énergies et compétences en commun. Ceci est essentiel pour que tous ces travaux puissent servir aux haïtiens. Depuis notre dernier voyage en Haïti, Andrea a pu finaliser un document méthodologique pour les simulations Hydrologiques et la planification des vols avec drone ( à comparer avec les autres moyens de collectes images, satellites, aéroportés) . Mais avant d’aller plus loin il nous faut : 1- Continuer les discussions avec le CNIGS pour réaliser des points de control au sol (GPS différentiel) sur la zone de Canaan. 2- Permettre aux équipes du CNIGS, d’IOM (gis unit), d’OSM et autres de pouvoir échanger sur l’utilisation de drone sur Haïti (juste un échange entre technicien, rien de formel ou d’officiel). 3- Se renseigner sur des stations météorologiques connectées (en cours d’étude). 4- *Trouver un billet d’avion et la logistique, en janvier 2015*, pour qu’Andrea puisse revenir en Haïti avec le drone d’OSM Haïti (le drone a effectué une maintenance en suisse) pour réaliser les vols sur Canaan et autres zones. 5- Finaliser la cartographie sur la zone via OSM (occupation du sol, bâti, infrastructure). 6- Réaliser une 1ere version de la mosaïque et du modèle d’élévation. 7- Diffuser l’information. Afin de finaliser ces démarches en cours et soutenir les travaux des universitaires munichois et ceux de Andrea, je remercie tous les acteurs concernés pour qu’ils portent une attention toute particulière à ce message afin de mutualiser les informations disponibles pour mener à son terme un tel chantier important pour Haïti.
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] JOSM historique
Merci à tous les deux, pour vos réponses !!! Le 11/01/2015 13:36, Jo a écrit : Moi, j'utilise Ctrl-h pour voir l'historique dans JOSM, Ctrl-Shift-H pour le voir sur des pages web. Ah oui, encore mieux qu'un bouton !!! Polyglot 2015-01-11 13:07 GMT+01:00 Jean-Baptiste Holcroft jb.holcr...@gmail.com mailto:jb.holcr...@gmail.com: Dans la fenêtre sélection, tu as un bouton en bas à droite. C'est bien çà, c'est ma vue ou moi ? Comment ais-je pu passer à côté ?? Le 11 janv. 2015 11:46, lenny lenny.li...@orange.fr mailto:lenny.li...@orange.fr a écrit : Bonjour, L'avant-dernière mise à jour de JOSM a supprimé le dialogue historique : /Suppression du dialogue d'historique au profit d'un bouton d'historique dans le dialogue de sélection/ depuis, j'ai beau chercher le nouveau bouton, je ne le trouve pas ; l'âge venant la vue se dégrade Help où se trouve-t-il ? Je suis allé dans sélection, dans la boîte à outils ??? cordialement Lenny ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Réunion contributeurs Toulouse ?
Je serai présent aussi ! Fred Le 6 janvier 2015 14:21, Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr a écrit : Salut Toulouse, Depuis la dernière fois où j'ai revu quelques contributeurs à Capitole du Libre je me sens un peu seul dans mon coin :P On se fait une soirée bière contribution OSM un de ces 4 ? Votre date sera la mienne et votre endroit également. Quelqu'un a un bar préféré pas loin d'un métro ? Que diriez-vous du mardi 20 janvier à 19h par exemple ? Je suis sur Colomiers s'il y en a qui veulent covoiturer ... -- *Florian Lainez* @overflorian http://twitter.com/overflorian ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Frédéric Bonifas +33672652807 skype:fredericbonifas ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[Talk-it] Altare, quale tag?
ho cercato in rete ma non ho trovato niente di specifico e mi pare strano. come si tagga un semplice altare, cioè si tratta soltanto di un tavolino fissato al terreno senza nessun'altra struttura chiusa attorno sul quale saltuariamente viene celebrata una messa. si trova quindi all'aperto e spesso è vicino ad una croce o ad un crocefisso. che dite? -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Altare-quale-tag-tp5829721.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Edifici e complessi edilizi suddivisi in parti
Paolo Monegato wrote Il 05/01/2015 15:33, Marco_T ha scritto: Al solito sto' inserendo tag wikipedia e mi sorge un dubbio (in prospettiva di futuri rendering 3d). A Vicenza, per esempio, ci sono singole chiese mappate con piu' di un poligono (credo in relazione all'altezza del corpo del fabbricato: navata principale, cupola, presbiterio...). E' corretto secondo voi creare un NUOVO poligono a perimetrazione dell'intera chiesa con tag building church e marcare i vari pezzi interni ESISTENTI con building:part=yes ? Quasi. Non sarei per fare un nuovo poligono, ma una relazione (c'è la relation building se non ricordo male). Mi pare che per la stazione di Vicenza avevo fatto una roba del genere (ma non ricordo benissimo, potrei pure avere lasciato il lavoro a metà... è passato tanto di quel tempo) [...] Grazie per la risposta, mi hai dato alcuni spunti su cui indagare e documentarmi. Purtroppo la stazione di Vicenza e' ancora esplosa in una miriade di poligoni e quindi non riesco ad utilizzarla come esempio. A Vicenza sarebbe utile sistemare un po' la mappa dato che anche il SIT del comune e' basato su OSM: http://gis.comune.vicenza.gov.it/sitvi/index.php e ci farebbe una buona pubblicita'. Il problema delle chiese l'ho notato anche in diverse citta' dell'Emilia (Piacenza, Bologna...); sarebbe il caso di sistemarle (usando, appunto come dici, una relazione che colleghi i vari poligoni, per futuri utilizzi 3d) prima che qualcuno, per semplificare, sostituisca i vari pezzi con un unico poligono perdendo informazioni importanti. Ciao. -- Marco_T -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Edifici-e-complessi-edilizi-suddivisi-in-parti-tp5829110p5829723.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Primo caso di un giudice italiano che nella sua sentenza dimostra di aver capito perfettamente le licenze Creative Commons
Matteo Quatrida-2 wrote Ciao, vi giro questo articolo [1], preso da un'altra mailing list che frequento, che parrebbe essere il primo caso in Italia di un giudice che si occupi di Creative Commons. Fermi ad esultare: la sentenza non riguarda le sopracitate licenze, ma il giudice dimostra di aver compreso chiaramente il funzionamento delle alternative al Copyright tradizionale. Un piccolo passo avanti, per un futuro sempre più libero! Letto. Interessante, grazie. Tieni conto pero' che per questioni abbastanza tecniche i giudici si affidano a Consulenti Tecnici d'Ufficio (CTU) che hanno il compito di dare un supporto su una specifica materia. Comunque bene che l'argomento sia emerso e chiaramente delineato. Saluti. -- Marco_T -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Primo-caso-di-un-giudice-italiano-che-nella-sua-sentenza-dimostra-di-aver-capito-perfettamente-le-lis-tp5829717p5829731.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Edifici e complessi edilizi suddivisi in parti
2015-01-11 22:45 GMT+01:00 Marco_T toto...@libero.it: Penso di aver trovato. Faro' come spiegato qui (che non si discosta molto da quello che mi ha scritto Paolo): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_3D_Buildings che alla fine e' come son state mappate San Pietro ed il Pantheon a Roma (credo siano dei buoni esempi per una chiesa!). Ovviamente non ho informazioni su altezza, materiali etc delle varie parti, ma almeno salvaguardo gli attuali poligoni per futuri aggiornamenti. Anche se per il Pantheon non è stata usata nessuna relazione building, ma solo i tag building:part=yes assegnati a singoli poligoni o a relazioni multipoligono (ad esempio per il colonnato) per assegnare le diverse caratteristiche relative ad altezza/forma/materiali etc. Alla fine il risultato del rendering 3D è davvero piacevole! Per San Pietro invece tutti i building:part=yes sono correttamente raggruppati nella relazione building (http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2021164). Ciao Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Communes nouvelles - fusion de communes
Comme pour Wikipédia : tant que ce n'est pas officiel ça n'a pas lieu d'être mentionné. Après on peut toujours mettre un alt_name... Florian Le Dimanche 11 janvier 2015 23h59, PierreV belett...@hotmail.fr a écrit : Bonsoir, J'ai une petite question... Une commune voisine a décidé de changer de nom: Sansais en Sansais-la-Garette le 4 septembre 2014 sans avoir été voté http://www.sansais-lagarette.com/compte-rendu-du-conseil-municipal-du-4-septembre-2014.html Comme vous pouvez le voir le site officiel a déja pris le nouveau nom de la commune, et maintenant je viens de remarquer que Google l'a pris aussi. Malheureusement les démarches officielles prennent plus de temps. Alors puis-je modifier le nom sur OSM? -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Communes-nouvelles-fusion-de-communes-tp5828618p5829735.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Réunion contributeurs Toulouse ?
Frédéric Bonifas a écrit : Je serai présent aussi ! Cool, nous sommes donc au moins quatre sur la région. :) Sébastien -- Sébastien Dinot, sebastien.di...@free.fr http://sebastien.dinot.free.fr/ Ne goûtez pas au logiciel libre, vous ne pourriez plus vous en passer ! ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-us] Should this be a dual carriageway?
On 01/11/2015 07:32 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: However, north of the rotary for quite a while, it should just be primary. There are intersections and lights all over the place, nothing better than an ordinary US highwway that happens to have two lanes each way. It's posted 40 and we really mean it, for what that's worth, which is kind of like being posted 30 :-) I agree. - Lars ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-de] Wie kann man Änderungen rückgängig machen?
On Sun, 11 Jan 2015 16:03:51 +0100, Tom Pfeifer wrote: chris66 wrote on 2015-01-11 15:31: Am 11.01.2015 um 13:30 schrieb Bernhard Weiskopf: Weiß jemand, wie das geht? Das geht mit dem JOSM Reverter Plugin. Chris Halte ich für überzogen, insbesondere wenn Bernhard damit auch unerfahren ist. Wann ist der richtige Zeitpunkt, damit erste Erfahrungen zu sammeln? Zudem muss man nach dem lokalen Revert nicht zwangsweise hochladen. Volker Schmidt wrote on 2015-01-11 15:01: Gib doch dem user Logge1456 ein paar Tage Zeit. Es ist sein erstes edit. Genau, und erst wenn das nicht passiert die kleinen Fehler korrigieren. +1 Nur einen Tag auf Antwort des Mappers warten zu wollen halte ich für etwas ungeduldig. Zwar dürften die meisten Leute auf dieser Liste täglich im Netz sein und ihr Mails abholen, aber es gibt auch Menschen mit anderen Tages- und Wochenabläufen. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] Edifici e complessi edilizi suddivisi in parti
Federico Cortese wrote Anche se per il Pantheon non è stata usata nessuna relazione building, ma solo i tag building:part=yes assegnati a singoli poligoni o a relazioni multipoligono (ad esempio per il colonnato) per assegnare le diverse caratteristiche relative ad altezza/forma/materiali etc. Alla fine il risultato del rendering 3D è davvero piacevole! Per San Pietro invece tutti i building:part=yes sono correttamente raggruppati nella relazione building (http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2021164). Hai ragione, mi son perso a guardare i principali edifici di Roma e poi, a parte San Pietro, mi son dimenticato le corrispondenze... Grazie anche a te per i contributi. Saluti. -- Marco_T -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Edifici-e-complessi-edilizi-suddivisi-in-parti-tp5829110p5829732.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-us] Should this be a dual carriageway?
(I'm writing from the perspective of having driven Route 6 from the sagamore bridge to north eastham every summer for many years, and to Provincetown a few years ago.) If we're talking about where Route 6 goes from 2 lanes each direction with a real median down to one lane in each direction with a yellow line with plastic thingies stuck up, ending at the orleans rotary, it was still like that in late August of 2014, unchanged for many years. Construction of that would be such big news that Lars and I would have heard about it. I don't know when this picture was taken: http://www.bostonroads.com/roads/mid-cape/img10.gif but it looked like that last summer. In particular, that's a bridge for the cape code rail trail, and is probably http://osm.org/go/Ze0Y15wyd-- It definitely should be trunk. It's nowhere near motorway (no real median, 1 lane each way). It's way better than a regular US highway, in that it is limited access, with higher speeds. I see it's been retagged recently, and I concur. However, north of the rotary for quite a while, it should just be primary. There are intersections and lights all over the place, nothing better than an ordinary US highwway that happens to have two lanes each way. It's posted 40 and we really mean it, for what that's worth, which is kind of like being posted 30 :-) I can see calling it trunk north of Wellfleet until Ptown starts, but it's iffy. pgpqjjvlbPGFd.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Kerry Irons irons54vor...@gmail.com wrote: The key question here, it seems to me, is whether there is any “official” body that claims these sections of I-5 to be a bicycle route. That might include bike clubs if indeed OSM decides to include “private routes” in the data base. I am not aware if any group that would suggest I-5 for a bike route in Oregon. If that is the case then it appears that this is simply someone claiming it to be a bike route by personal fiat. That opens the door to a discussion had last year about people putting personal opinion into OSM and designating it as a bicycle route. This seems to me to be a path to chaos but it is up to the OSM community to make that determination. +1 I live in Washington State and have driven I5 a number of times. Just this week I saw a bike on I5 for the first time I can remember. That's rather scary, Cliff, and you *might* want to work on your situational awareness...unless the weather is truly awful, you're bound to pass at least 2 and up to a few dozen bicycles on I 5 between where they come in from I 205 north of Vancouver to Exit 100 just shy of Olympia where they have to get off and take alternate routes until Everett. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Should this be a dual carriageway?
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Zontine, Chris -(p) chr...@telenav.com wrote: While mapping a FIXME in the US this situation came up: WAY ID 8822153. The FIXME implies this WAY (and others) should have a dual carriageway. As you can see this is one long stretch of highway=motorway. What is the thought on this? Not clear from a casual glance if there's a median in the middle of the quadruple lines, but it does look like a super-two. I'd call it a motorway and two ways if there's no at-grade intersections except for links plus a barrier down the center, trunk and two ways if there's at grade intersections or a single way if it's undivided with limited access (apply turn restrictions liberally as routing engines will try to make you U-turn to take the oncoming exit ramp if you miss your exit otherwise, or make an illegal U-turn if you accidentally turn the wrong direction in this situation without them). ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-it] Edifici e complessi edilizi suddivisi in parti
Penso di aver trovato. Faro' come spiegato qui (che non si discosta molto da quello che mi ha scritto Paolo): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_3D_Buildings che alla fine e' come son state mappate San Pietro ed il Pantheon a Roma (credo siano dei buoni esempi per una chiesa!). Ovviamente non ho informazioni su altezza, materiali etc delle varie parti, ma almeno salvaguardo gli attuali poligoni per futuri aggiornamenti. Ciao. -- Marco_T -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Edifici-e-complessi-edilizi-suddivisi-in-parti-tp5829110p5829726.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Edifici e complessi edilizi suddivisi in parti
2015-01-10 19:33 GMT+01:00 Paolo Monegato gato.selvad...@gmail.com: Quasi. Non sarei per fare un nuovo poligono, ma una relazione (c'è la relation building se non ricordo male). L'ho usata qualche volta, anche se JOSM non riconosce il type=building (relation type is unknown). Da quel che ricordo il perimetro esterno dell'edificio (taggato con building=*) va inserito nella relazione building come outline, mentre le parti interne che hanno caratteristiche differenti vanno taggate con building:part=yes e con role part (quindi non vengono renderizzate sulla mappa, ma vengono correttamente renderizzate in 3d). Il campanile (di solito tower) puo' seguire la stessa sorte delle parti interne o e' meglio che venga legato alla chiesa con una relazione multipoligono? Direi che il campanile è indipendente. Non farei nemmeno la relazione o al massimo ne farei una di tipo site. Personalmente penso che si potrebbe inserire anche nella relazione building se fa parte dell'edificio chiesa. In sintesi e' corretto dire : - il tag building:part lo uso quando un unico AMBIENTE (es. chiesa, teatro, mausoleo...) ha caratteristiche diverse di altezza o altro; Si. Concordo Ciao Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Communes nouvelles - fusion de communes
Bonsoir, J'ai une petite question... Une commune voisine a décidé de changer de nom: Sansais en Sansais-la-Garette le 4 septembre 2014 sans avoir été voté http://www.sansais-lagarette.com/compte-rendu-du-conseil-municipal-du-4-septembre-2014.html Comme vous pouvez le voir le site officiel a déja pris le nouveau nom de la commune, et maintenant je viens de remarquer que Google l'a pris aussi. Malheureusement les démarches officielles prennent plus de temps. Alors puis-je modifier le nom sur OSM? -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Communes-nouvelles-fusion-de-communes-tp5828618p5829735.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:54 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: I do not agree: again, I find no evidence (from the Oregon DOT map) that bicycles are explicitly designated legal on I-5. It may be the case that explicit statute specifies bicycles are allowed on I-5 in Oregon, but this map does not explicitly do so. Again, please note that no specific bike routes are designated on that map, either. It simply displays some highways as Interstates and some highways as containing wide shoulders or narrow shoulders. While not complaining about Oregon's DOT helping bicyclists better understand where they might or might not ride a bicycle in that state, I characterize these map data as early or underdeveloped w.r.t. helpful bicycle routing by a DOT. Oregon and Washington allow all modes on all routes unless otherwise posted. They have to explicitly sign exclusions, and they do. Here's the list for Oregon http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/HWY/BIKEPED/docs/freeway_ban.pdf And Washington: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/bike/closed.htm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:54 PM, stevea mailto:stevea...@softworkers.comstevea...@softworkers.com wrote: I do not agree: again, I find no evidence (from the Oregon DOT map) that bicycles are explicitly designated legal on I-5. It may be the case that explicit statute specifies bicycles are allowed on I-5 in Oregon, but this map does not explicitly do so. Again, please note that no specific bike routes are designated on that map, either. It simply displays some highways as Interstates and some highways as containing wide shoulders or narrow shoulders. While not complaining about Oregon's DOT helping bicyclists better understand where they might or might not ride a bicycle in that state, I characterize these map data as early or underdeveloped w.r.t. helpful bicycle routing by a DOT. Oregon and Washington allow all modes on all routes unless otherwise posted. They have to explicitly sign exclusions, and they do. Here's the list for Oregon http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/HWY/BIKEPED/docs/freeway_ban.pdfhttp://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/HWY/BIKEPED/docs/freeway_ban.pdf And Washington: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/bike/closed.htmhttp://www.wsdot.wa.gov/bike/closed.htm My previous post was California centric, going too far assuming for other states. (And fifty-at-a-time only in certain circumstances). A starting place (properly placed in the locus of each state, with perspective as a router might parse logic and build a routing set...) is the following: For 100% of ways with tag highway, set bicycle legality_status = legal. (This keeps everything still in the running.) Now, apply a per-state rule (could be a table lookup, could be a smarter data record): With both Washington and Oregon: exclude from our data set ways where helpful OSMers have tagged bicycle=no With California: exclude from our data set ways tagged highway=motorway, add to the set cycleways and highways tagged bicycle=yes. We are right in the middle of fifty ways of calculating a set. Those target objects might be elements of a bicycle route. As we get the tags right (critical, on the data and at the bottom) we must also treat the rules of what we seek from those data as critical, too (from the top, down). It's reaching across and shaking hands with a protocol, or a stack of protocols. It's data, syntax and semantics. When the sentence is grammatical (tags are correct for a parser), it clicks into place with the correct answer (renders as we wish). For the most part, we get it right. But we do need to understand the whole stack of what we do every once in a while, and pointing out data in California, treat like this, data in Oregon, Washington..., treat like that... is helpful to remember. Can we get to a place where everybody can do things (tag) just right for them and have it always work (render), everywhere every time? M, not without documentation and perhaps conversations like this. This is why documenting what we do and how we do it (and referring to the documentation, and trying to apply it strictly, unless it breaks, then perhaps talk about it and even improve it...) is so important. Listen, build, improve, repeat. Thank you (Paul, for your specific answer, as well as others for participating). SteveA California___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:09 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:54 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: I do not agree: again, I find no evidence (from the Oregon DOT map) that bicycles are explicitly designated legal on I-5. It may be the case that explicit statute specifies bicycles are allowed on I-5 in Oregon, but this map does not explicitly do so. Again, please note that no specific bike routes are designated on that map, either. It simply displays some highways as Interstates and some highways as containing wide shoulders or narrow shoulders. While not complaining about Oregon's DOT helping bicyclists better understand where they might or might not ride a bicycle in that state, I characterize these map data as early or underdeveloped w.r.t. helpful bicycle routing by a DOT. Oregon and Washington allow all modes on all routes unless otherwise posted. They have to explicitly sign exclusions, and they do. Here's the list for Oregon http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/HWY/BIKEPED/docs/freeway_ban.pdf And Washington: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/bike/closed.htm My previous post was California centric, going too far assuming for other states. (And fifty-at-a-time only in certain circumstances). Well, California's the same way. More miles of California's freeway are open to bicycles. That said, most of California's freeways are pretty much empty. A starting place (properly placed in the locus of each state, with perspective as a router might parse logic and build a routing set...) is the following: For 100% of ways with tag highway, set bicycle legality_status = legal. (This keeps everything still in the running.) Now, apply a per-state rule (could be a table lookup, could be a smarter data record): With both Washington and Oregon: exclude from our data set ways where helpful OSMers have tagged bicycle=no With California: exclude from our data set ways tagged highway=motorway, add to the set cycleways and highways tagged bicycle=yes How about we not complicate this and just go with what we've always gone with, which is what you're providing as the washington and oregon example? Overly complicated defaults, like what you're suggesting, are *extremely* unlikely to be implemented by data consumers that would ideally have the same defaults worldwide. It's a *lot* easier to explicitly tag for this than it is to decide on an obscure forum for data consumers how they should be consuming our data. Lowest common denominator. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-ht] weeklyOSM en français
Bonjour, Nous sommes fiers de vous annoncer la naissance de la version française de weeklyOSM. Les éditions n°231 et n°232 de weeklyOSM viennent de paraître en français. Retrouvez sur http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/ votre petit condensé de l'actualité du monde d'OSM. Bonne lecture ! L'équipe francophone de weeklyOSM est relativement récente. Nous nous présenterons prochainement. Veuillez s'il vous plaît relayer cette nouvelle sur les canaux de diffusion habituels de vos différentes communautés francophones. Merci et à bientôt ! ___ Talk-ht mailing list Talk-ht@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht Notez! Vous pouvez utiliser Google Translate (http://translate.google.com) pour traduire les messages.
Re: [Talk-ht] DEMs for Onaville
Cher Wolfgang j’ai bien reçu votre alerte qui nous interpelle sur les risques de remettre en cause votre travail de plusieurs mois, fait avec votre Université de Munich, relatif aux simulations hydrologiques. Je me propose d’envoyer un document, ci-joint, aux organismes concernés afin d’accélérer ces études qui méritent, par leur intérêt, d’aller à leur fin. Merci de me tenir informé des évolutions de ce dossier. Si de mon côté j’ai un quelconque élément qui puisse vous être utile, je ne manquerai pas vous le faire savoir. Je vous souhaite tous mes vœux cordiaux pour 2015 et pour cette semaine spéciale Voir le message pour commentaire https://lite5.framapad.org/p/eFX1wa92O1 Et le message brute Bonjour, À la vue des fragilités du territoire face à la déforestation, aux glissements de terrain, les études de simulations hydrologiques menées par des étudiants de l’université de Munich, sur la zone de Canaan représentent une opportunité importante pour la gestion des risques en Haïti. Trop peu d’études ont trouvé une utilité sur le terrain, car nous avons oublié de travailler ensemble, de capitaliser et diffuser l’information. Tout ce qui a été collecté en Haïti doit revenir aux Haïtiens. Il y a eu trop de pertes, durant les 5 dernières années, *de données collectées ou d’études qui disparaissent en fin du projet*. Nous devons effectivement construire une base de données commune pour finaliser ces méthodologies importantes et partager les résultats au plus près des réalités sur le terrain. Je remercie le CNIGS qui nous a ouvert ses portes ainsi que les contributeurs OSM et IOM pour le soutien logistique. *Est-il encore temps pour mutualiser nos moyens*, pour continuer à alimenter ce projet qui, depuis 2011, avance vers une meilleure modélisation et des échanges d’informations plus soutenus, sur cette zone ? J’espère la réponse positive et me tourne vers ceux qui ont l’autorité pour le faire pour qu’ils relancent un tel objectif. La construction de données communes et une bonne connaissance du territoire vient d’une construction participative qui développe des savoir-faire avec une responsabilité partagée. Une telle démarche encourage les membres de la collectivité à mettre leurs énergies et compétences en commun. Ceci est essentiel pour que tous ces travaux puissent servir aux haïtiens. Depuis notre dernier voyage en Haïti, Andrea a pu finaliser un document méthodologique pour les simulations Hydrologiques et la planification des vols avec drone ( à comparer avec les autres moyens de collectes images, satellites, aéroportés) . Mais avant d’aller plus loin il nous faut : 1- Continuer les discussions avec le CNIGS pour réaliser des points de control au sol (GPS différentiel) sur la zone de Canaan. 2- Permettre aux équipes du CNIGS, d’IOM (gis unit), d’OSM et autres de pouvoir échanger sur l’utilisation de drone sur Haïti (juste un échange entre technicien, rien de formel ou d’officiel). 3- Se renseigner sur des stations météorologiques connectées (en cours d’étude). 4- *Trouver un billet d’avion et la logistique, en janvier 2015*, pour qu’Andrea puisse revenir en Haïti avec le drone d’OSM Haïti (le drone a effectué une maintenance en suisse) pour réaliser les vols sur Canaan et autres zones. 5- Finaliser la cartographie sur la zone via OSM (occupation du sol, bâti, infrastructure). 6- Réaliser une 1ere version de la mosaïque et du modèle d’élévation. 7- Diffuser l’information. Afin de finaliser ces démarches en cours et soutenir les travaux des universitaires munichois et ceux de Andrea, je remercie tous les acteurs concernés pour qu’ils portent une attention toute particulière à ce message afin de mutualiser les informations disponibles pour mener à son terme un tel chantier important pour Haïti. Avec mes vœux cordiaux pour tous, que 2015 soit l’année du partage, de la complémentarité et de la mutualisation. Frédéric Moine On 08.01.2015 16:10, wolfgang_kroetzin...@web.de wrote: Bonjour Fred, how are you? I hope you had a good start in the new year. We have terminated our work in Haiti before Christmas with some promising data from different organisations. Unfortunatly this is of little use for me without a proper elevation model of the area. We had a meeting with the GIS-manager of IOM, who told us they would take flights in the area we requested, but so far nothing happened. I don’t know your connection to IOM, but if you have the ability to make things go faster that would be a great help for us. We have a meeting with our supervisors next week and I fear they will not support the flood simulation project anymore if we cannot guarantee that we have the necessary data to do it. That would suck for me as I already work on it for half a year. It would also be very kind if you could tell me if you are still involved with OSM in Haiti and if there
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
By contrast, I am not aware of any Interstate highways in the southeast USA that allow bicycles. From my experience, every entrance ramp has signs forbidding non-motorized traffic and mopeds. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr. On January 11, 2015 8:10:04 PM stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:54 PM, stevea mailto:stevea...@softworkers.comstevea...@softworkers.com wrote: I do not agree: again, I find no evidence (from the Oregon DOT map) that bicycles are explicitly designated legal on I-5. It may be the case that explicit statute specifies bicycles are allowed on I-5 in Oregon, but this map does not explicitly do so. Again, please note that no specific bike routes are designated on that map, either. It simply displays some highways as Interstates and some highways as containing wide shoulders or narrow shoulders. While not complaining about Oregon's DOT helping bicyclists better understand where they might or might not ride a bicycle in that state, I characterize these map data as early or underdeveloped w.r.t. helpful bicycle routing by a DOT. Oregon and Washington allow all modes on all routes unless otherwise posted. They have to explicitly sign exclusions, and they do. Here's the list for Oregon http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/HWY/BIKEPED/docs/freeway_ban.pdfhttp://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/HWY/BIKEPED/docs/freeway_ban.pdf And Washington: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/bike/closed.htmhttp://www.wsdot.wa.gov/bike/closed.htm My previous post was California centric, going too far assuming for other states. (And fifty-at-a-time only in certain circumstances). A starting place (properly placed in the locus of each state, with perspective as a router might parse logic and build a routing set...) is the following: For 100% of ways with tag highway, set bicycle legality_status = legal. (This keeps everything still in the running.) Now, apply a per-state rule (could be a table lookup, could be a smarter data record): With both Washington and Oregon: exclude from our data set ways where helpful OSMers have tagged bicycle=no With California: exclude from our data set ways tagged highway=motorway, add to the set cycleways and highways tagged bicycle=yes. We are right in the middle of fifty ways of calculating a set. Those target objects might be elements of a bicycle route. As we get the tags right (critical, on the data and at the bottom) we must also treat the rules of what we seek from those data as critical, too (from the top, down). It's reaching across and shaking hands with a protocol, or a stack of protocols. It's data, syntax and semantics. When the sentence is grammatical (tags are correct for a parser), it clicks into place with the correct answer (renders as we wish). For the most part, we get it right. But we do need to understand the whole stack of what we do every once in a while, and pointing out data in California, treat like this, data in Oregon, Washington..., treat like that... is helpful to remember. Can we get to a place where everybody can do things (tag) just right for them and have it always work (render), everywhere every time? M, not without documentation and perhaps conversations like this. This is why documenting what we do and how we do it (and referring to the documentation, and trying to apply it strictly, unless it breaks, then perhaps talk about it and even improve it...) is so important. Listen, build, improve, repeat. Thank you (Paul, for your specific answer, as well as others for participating). SteveA California -- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: By contrast, I am not aware of any Interstate highways in the southeast USA that allow bicycles. From my experience, every entrance ramp has signs forbidding non-motorized traffic and mopeds. John, I think highway departments out west realize that Interstate Highways are necessary for all types of vehicles. I suspect mainly because of lack of alternatives. I think the original question is are there bicycle routes that include Interstate Highways. From what we've learned, Interstate Highways can be tagged to allow bicycles where permitted by law. But just because bicycles are permitted, does that mean they are also part of a bicycle route? I'm not a bicyclist, so I'll defer to those that are. Bicycle routes should be documented by appropriate groups. I'm not sure who they are. We could also entertain tagging with the name of the organization documents the routes. A close analogy are hiking trails. For example the Pacific Crest is documented by the USDA Forest Service. Local trails are documented by local hiking organizations. Certainly both are welcome in OSM. Why not for bicycle routes? BTW - Wild is a great movie. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-dk] Ny vej Tom Kristensen Vej
Jeg har skrevet direkte til Mariagerfjord Kommune for at finde ud af hvor vejen er. Venlig hilsen Henrik Puukka-Sørensen Den 11. jan. 2015, Soren Johannessen soren.johannes...@gmail.com skrev: Hej alle sammen Nogen lokalkendte i Hobro - Tom Kristensen har fået en vej opkaldt efter sig Tom Kristensen Vej Jeg har prøvet via flere artikler at spore hvor den vej så befinder sig men har opgivet http://sporten.tv2.dk/motorsport/2015-01-10-mere-haeder-til-tom-k-faar-vej-opkaldt-efter-sig-i-hjembyen Så hvis der er nogen i Hobro der ved dette, så tilføj vejen i OSM Vh Søren Johannessen ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
