[Talk-at] geoimage.at geändert

[Friedrich Volkmann]

Bei mir ging seit einiger Zeit der geoimage.at-Hintergrund nicht mehr. Weil 
ein vorübergehender Serverausfall nicht so lang dauern kann, bin ich der 
Sache jetzt mal auf den Grund gegangen. Also für den Fall, dass ihr das 
selbe Problem habt:


Die haben heimlich die Parameter geändert. Statt...
LAYERS=Luftbild_MR,Luftbild_1m,Luftbild_8m,Satellitenbild_30m
...müsst ihr jetzt angeben einfach:
LAYERS=Luftbild

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Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

[john whelan]

There are some areas of reasonable quality where buildings are missing.
These I think can be imported on the technical side without too much
difficulty and those were the ones I cherry picked as low hanging fruit
that should not be contentious.

Having said that I have seen the view expressed it is better to have poor
quality data created by local mappers in OSM than high quality data by
expert mappers so it may well be contentious .

In Ottawa buildings were not imported to overwrite existing buildings.
Basically the missing ones were imported by experienced mappers.  That is
just process and I think we have the process fairly well documented and
defined.

There are three sources of building data with the right license in Canada.
Bing is one and that almost certainly covers Newfoundland so Newfoundland
is involved to some extent.

For data that is deemed in need of cleanup or squaring again we can come up
with a process to do that and we have experienced mappers who can follow
the agreed process.

I suggest we hold back for a few days before getting into a heavy
discussion.

Cheerio John



On Tue, 24 Dec 2019 at 18:30, Adam Martin  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Looking at the wiki page, a large volume of the buildings are of low
> quality requiring processing.  The trade off here is between not having
> buildings and having buildings that are out of place and of poor quality.
> I can see people being reluctant to have it imported in an area, especially
> where buildings have been drawn by hand.  If this is to be imported, I
> think many would be more amenable to the idea if the data already present
> was given precedence.
>
> As a Newfoundlander, the lack of any such data for this province could be
> a blessing or a curse, depending on how you see the mass importation of
> buildings.
>
> Happy holidays!
>
> Adam
>
> On Tue., Dec. 24, 2019, 7:36 p.m. Daniel @jfd553, 
> wrote:
>
>> Have a look at the wiki page I referred to. Further discussions will be
>> more easy and focused
>>
>> Sent from Galaxy S7
>>
>> --
>> *From:* John Whelan 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:50:29 PM
>> *To:* James 
>> *Cc:* Daniel @jfd553 ; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <
>> talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada
>>
>> I think the first problem to be addressed is the presence or absence of a
>> local community.
>>
>> In the north we have few mappers but lots of interested agencies and
>> people in seeing the buildings imported.
>>
>> Montreal I think is under control.  Toronto is in the process of sorting
>> itself out but I'm unclear how much territory the Toronto local group
>> covers.
>>
>> Vancouver should be big enough to support a local group.  As should
>> Calgary and Edmonton.
>>
>> Ottawa is complete as is Gatineau.
>>
>> It's the smaller cities and regions that would be my concern.  Often it
>> will be by chance that two or more mappers meet occasionally.
>>
>> So step one can we list the local groups?
>>
>> I also have a problem with what happens if two people agree but haven't
>> done any mapping are they a local group?
>>
>> Step two to me would be a consensus on how to tackle those areas without
>> a local group and I think Daniel's suggestion would be a way forward in
>> this area.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>>
>>
>> James wrote on 2019-12-24 1:28 PM:
>>
>> wasn't there talk about this before and someone blocked it because of
>> non-square buildings and the resulting discussion was that each community
>> was going to decide if they want to import or not?
>>
>> On Tue., Dec. 24, 2019, 1:26 p.m. Daniel @jfd553, 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Group!
>>
>> I am currently working on a proposal which, I hope, will bring consensus
>> among the community and relaunch the import of ODB footprints (StatCan).
>> The proposal should be ready in a few weeks, or sooner.
>>
>>
>>
>> In the meantime, I suggest to all those who are interested to take note
>> of the observations I made regarding these data. This information can be
>> found in the OSM wiki (1). According to OSM import guideline requirements,
>> it describes the data to import. At the same time, I updated the
>> Canada-federal section of the Data Potential wiki page (2).
>>
>>
>>
>> I will be offline in the next few days, so if you have any
>> questions/comments, please be patient :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>>
>> 1 - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/The_Open_Database_of_Buildings
>>
>> 2 -
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potential_Datasources#Federal_.28Open_Government.29
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Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

[Adam Martin]

Hi all,

Looking at the wiki page, a large volume of the buildings are of low
quality requiring processing.  The trade off here is between not having
buildings and having buildings that are out of place and of poor quality.
I can see people being reluctant to have it imported in an area, especially
where buildings have been drawn by hand.  If this is to be imported, I
think many would be more amenable to the idea if the data already present
was given precedence.

As a Newfoundlander, the lack of any such data for this province could be a
blessing or a curse, depending on how you see the mass importation of
buildings.

Happy holidays!

Adam

On Tue., Dec. 24, 2019, 7:36 p.m. Daniel @jfd553, 
wrote:

> Have a look at the wiki page I referred to. Further discussions will be
> more easy and focused
>
> Sent from Galaxy S7
>
> --
> *From:* John Whelan 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:50:29 PM
> *To:* James 
> *Cc:* Daniel @jfd553 ; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <
> talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada
>
> I think the first problem to be addressed is the presence or absence of a
> local community.
>
> In the north we have few mappers but lots of interested agencies and
> people in seeing the buildings imported.
>
> Montreal I think is under control.  Toronto is in the process of sorting
> itself out but I'm unclear how much territory the Toronto local group
> covers.
>
> Vancouver should be big enough to support a local group.  As should
> Calgary and Edmonton.
>
> Ottawa is complete as is Gatineau.
>
> It's the smaller cities and regions that would be my concern.  Often it
> will be by chance that two or more mappers meet occasionally.
>
> So step one can we list the local groups?
>
> I also have a problem with what happens if two people agree but haven't
> done any mapping are they a local group?
>
> Step two to me would be a consensus on how to tackle those areas without a
> local group and I think Daniel's suggestion would be a way forward in this
> area.
>
> Cheerio John
>
>
>
> James wrote on 2019-12-24 1:28 PM:
>
> wasn't there talk about this before and someone blocked it because of
> non-square buildings and the resulting discussion was that each community
> was going to decide if they want to import or not?
>
> On Tue., Dec. 24, 2019, 1:26 p.m. Daniel @jfd553, 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Group!
>
> I am currently working on a proposal which, I hope, will bring consensus
> among the community and relaunch the import of ODB footprints (StatCan).
> The proposal should be ready in a few weeks, or sooner.
>
>
>
> In the meantime, I suggest to all those who are interested to take note of
> the observations I made regarding these data. This information can be found
> in the OSM wiki (1). According to OSM import guideline requirements, it
> describes the data to import. At the same time, I updated the
> Canada-federal section of the Data Potential wiki page (2).
>
>
>
> I will be offline in the next few days, so if you have any
> questions/comments, please be patient :-)
>
>
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> 1 - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/The_Open_Database_of_Buildings
>
> 2 -
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potential_Datasources#Federal_.28Open_Government.29
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Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

[Daniel @jfd553]

I'll get back to you in a couple of days:-)

Sent from Galaxy S7


From: John Whelan 
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 6:21:06 PM
To: Daniel @jfd553 
Cc: James ; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 

Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

So an approach would be to pick off those areas with good data available first 
with few existing buildings mapped?

Such as Victoria or Courtenay in BC

Burlington, Caledon, Barrie in Ontario

Then move forward based on that experience?

I'd feel more comfortable with a mapper from the province at least coordinating 
the mapping even if there wasn't a local group.

How would we tackle places such as Perth? Smith Falls and Brockville which are 
available in Bing if not other sources?  These are in Ontario and fairly local 
to Ottawa by the way.

Thanks John

Daniel @jfd553 wrote on 2019-12-24 6:04 PM:
Have a look at the wiki page I referred to. Further discussions will be more 
easy and focused

Sent from Galaxy S7


From: John Whelan 
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:50:29 PM
To: James 
Cc: Daniel @jfd553 ; Talk-CA 
OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

I think the first problem to be addressed is the presence or absence of a local 
community.

In the north we have few mappers but lots of interested agencies and people in 
seeing the buildings imported.

Montreal I think is under control.  Toronto is in the process of sorting itself 
out but I'm unclear how much territory the Toronto local group covers.

Vancouver should be big enough to support a local group.  As should Calgary and 
Edmonton.

Ottawa is complete as is Gatineau.

It's the smaller cities and regions that would be my concern.  Often it will be 
by chance that two or more mappers meet occasionally.

So step one can we list the local groups?

I also have a problem with what happens if two people agree but haven't done 
any mapping are they a local group?

Step two to me would be a consensus on how to tackle those areas without a 
local group and I think Daniel's suggestion would be a way forward in this area.

Cheerio John



James wrote on 2019-12-24 1:28 PM:
wasn't there talk about this before and someone blocked it because of 
non-square buildings and the resulting discussion was that each community was 
going to decide if they want to import or not?

On Tue., Dec. 24, 2019, 1:26 p.m. Daniel @jfd553, 
mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Group!

I am currently working on a proposal which, I hope, will bring consensus among 
the community and relaunch the import of ODB footprints (StatCan). The proposal 
should be ready in a few weeks, or sooner.



In the meantime, I suggest to all those who are interested to take note of the 
observations I made regarding these data. This information can be found in the 
OSM wiki (1). According to OSM import guideline requirements, it describes the 
data to import. At the same time, I updated the Canada-federal section of the 
Data Potential wiki page (2).



I will be offline in the next few days, so if you have any questions/comments, 
please be patient :-)



Daniel



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Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

[John Whelan]

So an approach would be to pick off those areas with good data available 
first with few existing buildings mapped?


Such as Victoria or Courtenay in BC

Burlington, Caledon, Barrie in Ontario

Then move forward based on that experience?

I'd feel more comfortable with a mapper from the province at least 
coordinating the mapping even if there wasn't a local group.


How would we tackle places such as Perth? Smith Falls and Brockville 
which are available in Bing if not other sources?  These are in Ontario 
and fairly local to Ottawa by the way.


Thanks John

Daniel @jfd553 wrote on 2019-12-24 6:04 PM:
Have a look at the wiki page I referred to. Further discussions will 
be more easy and focused


Sent from Galaxy S7


*From:* John Whelan 
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:50:29 PM
*To:* James 
*Cc:* Daniel @jfd553 ; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 


*Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada
I think the first problem to be addressed is the presence or absence 
of a local community.


In the north we have few mappers but lots of interested agencies and 
people in seeing the buildings imported.


Montreal I think is under control.  Toronto is in the process of 
sorting itself out but I'm unclear how much territory the Toronto 
local group covers.


Vancouver should be big enough to support a local group.  As should 
Calgary and Edmonton.


Ottawa is complete as is Gatineau.

It's the smaller cities and regions that would be my concern.  Often 
it will be by chance that two or more mappers meet occasionally.


So step one can we list the local groups?

I also have a problem with what happens if two people agree but 
haven't done any mapping are they a local group?


Step two to me would be a consensus on how to tackle those areas 
without a local group and I think Daniel's suggestion would be a way 
forward in this area.


Cheerio John



James wrote on 2019-12-24 1:28 PM:
wasn't there talk about this before and someone blocked it because of 
non-square buildings and the resulting discussion was that each 
community was going to decide if they want to import or not?


On Tue., Dec. 24, 2019, 1:26 p.m. Daniel @jfd553, > wrote:


Hi Group!

I am currently working on a proposal which, I hope, will bring
consensus among the community and relaunch the import of ODB
footprints (StatCan). The proposal should be ready in a few
weeks, or sooner.

In the meantime, I suggest to all those who are interested to
take note of the observations I made regarding these data. This
information can be found in the OSM wiki (1). According to OSM
import guideline requirements, it describes the data to import.
At the same time, I updated the Canada-federal section of the
Data Potential wiki page (2).

I will be offline in the next few days, so if you have any
questions/comments, please be patient :-)

Daniel

1 -
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/The_Open_Database_of_Buildings

2 -

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potential_Datasources#Federal_.28Open_Government.29

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Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

[Daniel @jfd553]

Have a look at the wiki page I referred to. Further discussions will be more 
easy and focused

Sent from Galaxy S7


From: John Whelan 
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:50:29 PM
To: James 
Cc: Daniel @jfd553 ; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 

Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

I think the first problem to be addressed is the presence or absence of a local 
community.

In the north we have few mappers but lots of interested agencies and people in 
seeing the buildings imported.

Montreal I think is under control.  Toronto is in the process of sorting itself 
out but I'm unclear how much territory the Toronto local group covers.

Vancouver should be big enough to support a local group.  As should Calgary and 
Edmonton.

Ottawa is complete as is Gatineau.

It's the smaller cities and regions that would be my concern.  Often it will be 
by chance that two or more mappers meet occasionally.

So step one can we list the local groups?

I also have a problem with what happens if two people agree but haven't done 
any mapping are they a local group?

Step two to me would be a consensus on how to tackle those areas without a 
local group and I think Daniel's suggestion would be a way forward in this area.

Cheerio John



James wrote on 2019-12-24 1:28 PM:
wasn't there talk about this before and someone blocked it because of 
non-square buildings and the resulting discussion was that each community was 
going to decide if they want to import or not?

On Tue., Dec. 24, 2019, 1:26 p.m. Daniel @jfd553, 
mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Group!

I am currently working on a proposal which, I hope, will bring consensus among 
the community and relaunch the import of ODB footprints (StatCan). The proposal 
should be ready in a few weeks, or sooner.



In the meantime, I suggest to all those who are interested to take note of the 
observations I made regarding these data. This information can be found in the 
OSM wiki (1). According to OSM import guideline requirements, it describes the 
data to import. At the same time, I updated the Canada-federal section of the 
Data Potential wiki page (2).



I will be offline in the next few days, so if you have any questions/comments, 
please be patient :-)



Daniel



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Re: [Talk-us] TIGER-completeness visualizer?

[stevea]

From: "Shawn K. Quinn" 
> I agree that we needed and still need a way to clean up all the
> remaining untouched TIGER data. However, without the TIGER import, the
> same 11-12 years would have been spent surveying and naming the roads
> one by one and tracing them from (sometimes outdated) satellite/aerial
> photos and we would probably still be way behind where we are with the
> TIGER import. If it had been on me to trace my neighborhood from a blank
> slate when I first started mapping, I might well have given up on OSM at
> that point.

Please don't misunderstand me that I wish the TIGER import never happened:  I 
am very glad for these data being in the project.  TIGER has, as you say, 
provided us with over a decade of "something" and all the effort many of us 
have endeavored to "make it better, into the superior structure of roads and 
rail we have now."  I was merely positing that as a MAJOR import, TIGER as a 
whole can teach us much.  Perhaps that requiring dedicated tools for 
post-import cleanup could be a requirement all of us might agree upon should we 
do something like this again.

As long as I'm on the topic, does anybody recall how ITOworld's four colors in 
their map (dark blue, light blue, orange red) of TIGER roads were defined?  
(Yes, there were also grey/black for "not TIGER").  I think dark blue was "no 
tiger_reviewed=no tag" (at all), light blue and orange I can't quite remember, 
but they had that tag, but one or both were something like "touched / modified 
in the last three years" (and something else for the other one), red was "still 
has the tag, hasn't been touched in five(?) years or longer."  The middle two 
were well-chosen, but I can't remember their exact rules.

If we haven't the good tools (in the same form), I'm hoping at least we can 
rebuild them from pieces!

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Re: [Talk-us] Marking a wiki page for deletion?

[stevea]

From: Mateusz Konieczny 
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Marking a wiki page for deletion?
> Date: December 23, 2019 at 11:13:26 PM PST
> Cc: talk-us 
> 
> 
> In this case redirect seems better.
> 
> Replace entire page text by 
> #REDIRECT [[target page]]
> 
> 
> You can also add delete template 
> to request deletion:
> 
> {{Delete|reason for deletion}}

I appreciate that, Mateusz.  And Minh Nguyễn has done essentially that.  Thanks 
again, everybody.

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Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

[John Whelan]

I think the first problem to be addressed is the presence or absence of 
a local community.


In the north we have few mappers but lots of interested agencies and 
people in seeing the buildings imported.


Montreal I think is under control.  Toronto is in the process of sorting 
itself out but I'm unclear how much territory the Toronto local group 
covers.


Vancouver should be big enough to support a local group.  As should 
Calgary and Edmonton.


Ottawa is complete as is Gatineau.

It's the smaller cities and regions that would be my concern.  Often it 
will be by chance that two or more mappers meet occasionally.


So step one can we list the local groups?

I also have a problem with what happens if two people agree but haven't 
done any mapping are they a local group?


Step two to me would be a consensus on how to tackle those areas without 
a local group and I think Daniel's suggestion would be a way forward in 
this area.


Cheerio John



James wrote on 2019-12-24 1:28 PM:
wasn't there talk about this before and someone blocked it because of 
non-square buildings and the resulting discussion was that each 
community was going to decide if they want to import or not?


On Tue., Dec. 24, 2019, 1:26 p.m. Daniel @jfd553, > wrote:


Hi Group!

I am currently working on a proposal which, I hope, will bring
consensus among the community and relaunch the import of ODB
footprints (StatCan). The proposal should be ready in a few weeks,
or sooner.

In the meantime, I suggest to all those who are interested to take
note of the observations I made regarding these data. This
information can be found in the OSM wiki (1). According to OSM
import guideline requirements, it describes the data to import. At
the same time, I updated the Canada-federal section of the Data
Potential wiki page (2).

I will be offline in the next few days, so if you have any
questions/comments, please be patient :-)

Daniel

1 - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/The_Open_Database_of_Buildings

2 -

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Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

[Nate Wessel]

Hi Daniel,

Thanks for taking the time to put together these detailed observations 
on the data. It seems like it could be a useful guide, though I have 
some questions about how you came to these measurements and what they 
mean. I'll leave those clarifying questions for the talk page however.


I want to reiterate that I remain opposed to a nationwide import, or at 
least any version of that that takes aim at any part of Toronto. I've 
been working on an import plan for Toronto, though we are still digging 
out from the mess of several imports, including the latest effort at a 
building import. We're making progress, but it is slow and I haven't 
been able to give it the time and attention it needs.
I believe Montreal is working on their own thing as well, and there are 
likely others.


That said, I like that this is starting with a thorough assessment of 
the data in each region. Given that each seems a bit different, I'd 
suggest thinking of a national /import plan/ as more of a national 
/template/ for regions that can be applied and adapted region by region. 
You can lead a horse to water, but it is the local mappers that need to 
drink. Some of them, myself included, can be quite stubborn ;-)


Happy holidays,

Nate Wessel, PhD
Planner, Cartographer, Transport Nerd
NateWessel.com 

On 2019-12-24 1:28 p.m., James wrote:
wasn't there talk about this before and someone blocked it because of 
non-square buildings and the resulting discussion was that each 
community was going to decide if they want to import or not?


On Tue., Dec. 24, 2019, 1:26 p.m. Daniel @jfd553, > wrote:


Hi Group!

I am currently working on a proposal which, I hope, will bring
consensus among the community and relaunch the import of ODB
footprints (StatCan). The proposal should be ready in a few weeks,
or sooner.

In the meantime, I suggest to all those who are interested to take
note of the observations I made regarding these data. This
information can be found in the OSM wiki (1). According to OSM
import guideline requirements, it describes the data to import. At
the same time, I updated the Canada-federal section of the Data
Potential wiki page (2).

I will be offline in the next few days, so if you have any
questions/comments, please be patient :-)

Daniel

1 - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/The_Open_Database_of_Buildings

2 -

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Proposition - approuvée - Points de distribution télécoms

[Jacques Lavignotte]

Le 24/12/2019 à 18:43, deuzeffe a écrit :

Bonnes fêtes de fin d'année à tout le monde !


De même.

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Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

[James]

wasn't there talk about this before and someone blocked it because of
non-square buildings and the resulting discussion was that each community
was going to decide if they want to import or not?

On Tue., Dec. 24, 2019, 1:26 p.m. Daniel @jfd553, 
wrote:

> Hi Group!
>
> I am currently working on a proposal which, I hope, will bring consensus
> among the community and relaunch the import of ODB footprints (StatCan).
> The proposal should be ready in a few weeks, or sooner.
>
>
>
> In the meantime, I suggest to all those who are interested to take note of
> the observations I made regarding these data. This information can be found
> in the OSM wiki (1). According to OSM import guideline requirements, it
> describes the data to import. At the same time, I updated the
> Canada-federal section of the Data Potential wiki page (2).
>
>
>
> I will be offline in the next few days, so if you have any
> questions/comments, please be patient :-)
>
>
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> 1 - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/The_Open_Database_of_Buildings
>
> 2 -
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potential_Datasources#Federal_.28Open_Government.29
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Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

[Daniel @jfd553]

Hi Group!
I am currently working on a proposal which, I hope, will bring consensus among 
the community and relaunch the import of ODB footprints (StatCan). The proposal 
should be ready in a few weeks, or sooner.

In the meantime, I suggest to all those who are interested to take note of the 
observations I made regarding these data. This information can be found in the 
OSM wiki (1). According to OSM import guideline requirements, it describes the 
data to import. At the same time, I updated the Canada-federal section of the 
Data Potential wiki page (2).

I will be offline in the next few days, so if you have any questions/comments, 
please be patient :-)

Daniel

1 - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/The_Open_Database_of_Buildings
2 - 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potential_Datasources#Federal_.28Open_Government.29
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Re: [Talk-it] aggiungere immagini 360° a OSM

[Maria Prontera]

Grazie Alessandro
farò delle prove.

Buon lavoro

Il giorno mar 24 dic 2019 alle ore 09:46 Alessandro Palmas <
alessandro.pal...@wikimedia.it> ha scritto:

> Il 23/12/19 22:19, Maria Prontera ha scritto:
> > Salve
> > sono nuova nell'uso di OSM.
> > Un cliente mi ha commissionato la creazione di 13 percorsi pedonali con
> > immagini 360° e punti di interesse su di esse.
> >
> > Ho letto su wikipedia di Open Trail View:
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenTrailView
> >
> > Non mi è chiaro se posso inserire punti di interesse con icone
> > personalizzate ed elementi multimediali: immagini, testi, audio e video.
> >
> > Ci sono esempi in rete? Eventualmente anche tutorials?
> >
> > Grazie
> > Maria Prontera
> >
>
>
> Ciao,
> OSM è un database geografico i cui oggetti (primitive) sono punti e linee.
> Foto e video vengono sovrapposte allo strato OSM, usato meramente come
> strato di sfondo, e provengono da altri progetti o repository.
> Mapillary è un progetto di mappatura del mondo tramite foto e video,
> abbastanza maturo.
> Io ogni tanto faccio mappatura con una fotocamera sferica Ricoh Theta S.
> Puoi vedere un paio di esempi:
> 1) a Brindisi in auto
> https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/bZu9YTSmiUlGkcKC8wc_UQ (puoi navigare
> da una foto all'altra o col bottone play vedere uno pseudo filmato), nel
> link successivo hai il codice per inserirlo una una pagina html.
>
>  src="
> https://embed-v1.mapillary.com/embed?version=1=%5B%22all%22%5D_filter=%5B%22all%22%5D_style=Mapillary
> streets_key=bZu9YTSmiUlGkcKC8wc_UQ=0.055572364288169196=0.5735383113037303_id=U0VKMUtoa1llbEI1NEpjV1JVdEFwUTo1ZTVmMGM2MDhmODQ2MGRl=photo"
>
> frameborder="0">
>
> Entrambi i link sono ottenuti cliccando sul bottone sharing.
>
> 2) a Chiavari a piedi, senza curare troppo l'allineamento della camera
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/_2efSgvwi1d-sBshmTxhKw
>
>  src="
> https://embed-v1.mapillary.com/embed?version=1=%5B%22all%22%5D_filter=%5B%22all%22%5D_style=Mapillary
> streets_key=_2efSgvwi1d-sBshmTxhKw=0.9020019142025028=0.5501245308616575_id=U0VKMUtoa1llbEI1NEpjV1JVdEFwUTo1ZTVmMGM2MDhmODQ2MGRl=split"
>
> frameborder="0">
>
>
> Dopo aver caricato una sequenza (supporta anche i video sia piani che
> sferici) puoi editare la posizione, nel caso il GPS non posizionasse
> correttamente la singola foto. Puoi mostrare la sequenza direttamente
> con Mapillary o pensare a qualche visualizzazione customizzata, se
> conosci e possiedi sw quale ArcGIS o altri. Devo dire che dove lavoro
> abbiamo testato Mapillary con ArcGIS ma sino a 3 mesi fa il supporto era
> abbastanza acerbo.
>
> Qui hai il link alle API, in caso volessi interrogare il database Mapillary
> https://blog.mapillary.com/product/2017/01/26/mapillary-api-v3.html
>
>
> Ti è stato suggerito anche Umap. E' un'interfaccia utente semplice da
> usare che sfrutta le potenti librerie LeafLetjs https://leafletjs.com/
> che con cento e passa plugin permette di fare tante belle cose con le
> mappe.
>
> Saluti
>Alessandro Ale_Zena_IT
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

[Nuno Caldeira]

Hi Mateusz,


They don't. Here's all my email exchange with them from October 2018, 
yes _*2018*_. it's more than enough with evidence and time to be fixed. 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/110XubCe0kd2HNtbqXS7U_vr44xyieaSt/view?usp=sharing



On 24/12/2019 07:08, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:

Have they responded with anything
(except automatic reply) ?

Is there an assigned issue id?


23 Dec 2019, 21:32 by nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com:

I sent this situation to Mapbox 10 months ago.

On Mon, 23 Dec 2019, 17:00 joost schouppe,
mailto:joost.schou...@gmail.com>> wrote:


As an xmas bonus, here's another Facebook company (via
Mapbox), Snapchat that is using OSM without attribution
requirements (funnily there's plenty of space for a
reasonable and visible calculated mapbox logo and text).
They probably don't know, nor that they have been asked to
comply over a year ago, nor have agreed with the license
in every aspect of it when stated using OSM data, nor read
Mapbox TOS, or Mapbox been informed on these repeated
offenders, nor read the multiples reports in mailing
lists, nor that they had a employee that ran for OSMF board.

https://map.snapchat.com/

Let's continue to be hypocrites and pretend nothing is
going on for over a year with these two companies that are
corporate members of OSMF and should be the first ones to
give examples. Enough with excuses.


The Snapchat case is a pretty clear example of how not to do
things. If there's space for Mapbox, there's space for
OpenStreetMap. But I don't think Snapchat has anything to do
with Facebook.

Phil, I hope you contacted them directly and not through Facebook.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Proposition - approuvée - Points de distribution télécoms

[deuzeffe]

Que de réussites ! À point pour te faire ressembler à un arbre de saison 
tout décoré :)


Bonnes fêtes de fin d'année à tout le monde !

Le 24/12/2019 à 15:43, François Lacombe a écrit :

Salut à tous,

Le vote est désormais terminé pour la proposition de tagging pour les 
points de distribution télécoms. A 21 voies contre 4, le modèle est 
approuvé à 84%.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Telecom_distribution_points

Cette valeur rejoints donc les 3 premières exchange, connection_point et 
service_device dans la clé telecom.
Les prochaines étapes vont comme d'habitude consister à mettre à jour la 
documentation, en particulier bien clarifier les conditions 
d'utilisation de connection_point et distribution_point.
Cela permettra donc de décrire les 7 millions de ces points qui existent 
en France, uniquement depuis l'espace public évidemment :)


Merci pour votre soutien et à ceux qui ont pris le temps de voter.

Bon réveillon à ceux qui ont la chance d'être en famille et bonne fin 
d'année à tous


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Proposition - approuvée - Points de distribution télécoms

[Jacques Lavignotte]

Félicitatons !

Le 24/12/2019 à 15:43, François Lacombe a écrit :

Salut à tous,

Le vote est désormais terminé pour la proposition de tagging pour les 
points de distribution télécoms. A 21 voies contre 4, le modèle est 
approuvé à 84%.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Telecom_distribution_points

Cette valeur rejoints donc les 3 premières exchange, connection_point et 
service_device dans la clé telecom.
Les prochaines étapes vont comme d'habitude consister à mettre à jour la 
documentation, en particulier bien clarifier les conditions 
d'utilisation de connection_point et distribution_point.
Cela permettra donc de décrire les 7 millions de ces points qui existent 
en France, uniquement depuis l'espace public évidemment :)


Merci pour votre soutien et à ceux qui ont pris le temps de voter.

Bon réveillon à ceux qui ont la chance d'être en famille et bonne fin 
d'année à tous


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [Tagging-fr] Proposition - approuvée - Points de distribution télécoms

[severin.menard via Talk-fr]

Salut François,

Super pour la validation de ces nouveaux attributs. Quelle sera ta prochaine 
thématique de travail ?
Bonne fin d'année à tous !

Séverin

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
Le mardi 24 décembre 2019 15:43, François Lacombe  a 
écrit :

> Salut à tous,
>
> Le vote est désormais terminé pour la proposition de tagging pour les points 
> de distribution télécoms. A 21 voies contre 4, le modèle est approuvé à 84%.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Telecom_distribution_points
>
> Cette valeur rejoints donc les 3 premières exchange, connection_point et 
> service_device dans la clé telecom.
> Les prochaines étapes vont comme d'habitude consister à mettre à jour la 
> documentation, en particulier bien clarifier les conditions d'utilisation de 
> connection_point et distribution_point.
> Cela permettra donc de décrire les 7 millions de ces points qui existent en 
> France, uniquement depuis l'espace public évidemment :)
>
> Merci pour votre soutien et à ceux qui ont pris le temps de voter.
>
> Bon réveillon à ceux qui ont la chance d'être en famille et bonne fin d'année 
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Orthos: mise à jour 2018 sur de nombreux départements

[marc marc]

Le 24.12.19 à 15:32, Philippe Verdy a écrit :
> est-ce qu'OSM France propose une couche composite rassemblant les
> dernières meilleures ortho en date sur une couche simple

oui, christian l'a détaillé 3 email avant :)
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Re: [Talk-se] Vart har Maxar Premium Imagery tagit vägen?

[Hartwig Alpers]

Se https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/@kevin_bullock/diary/391652

God jul
hca

On 24.12.19 14:23, Lennart Romberg wrote:
Sen nån vecka hittar jag inte Maxar Premium Imagery. I JOSM får jag en 
felutskrift och i ID finns den inte längre bland valbara bakgrunder. 
Nåt tillfälligt eller har den försvunnit för gott?


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[OSM-talk-fr] Proposition - approuvée - Points de distribution télécoms

[François Lacombe]

Salut à tous,

Le vote est désormais terminé pour la proposition de tagging pour les
points de distribution télécoms. A 21 voies contre 4, le modèle est
approuvé à 84%.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Telecom_distribution_points

Cette valeur rejoints donc les 3 premières exchange, connection_point et
service_device dans la clé telecom.
Les prochaines étapes vont comme d'habitude consister à mettre à jour la
documentation, en particulier bien clarifier les conditions d'utilisation
de connection_point et distribution_point.
Cela permettra donc de décrire les 7 millions de ces points qui existent en
France, uniquement depuis l'espace public évidemment :)

Merci pour votre soutien et à ceux qui ont pris le temps de voter.

Bon réveillon à ceux qui ont la chance d'être en famille et bonne fin
d'année à tous

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Orthos: mise à jour 2018 sur de nombreux départements

[Philippe Verdy]

A ce sujet, est-ce qu'OSM France propose une couche composite rassemblant
les dernières meilleures ortho en date sur une couche simple ? Si oui selon
quel critère se fait l'assemblage : la date la plus récente en priorité ou
la précision la meilleure ? imaginons une couche très récente de 2019 mais
à 10 cm par pixel et une autre plus ancienne de 2016 à 3 cm par pixel,
laquelle sera mise en priorité ? Je pense que la précision à moins de 10 cm
par pixel devrait être moins pertinente que la fraicheur de l'imagerie.
Il reste aussi à savoir si les différents fournisseurs utilisent les mêmes
bases de rectification (finesse des données MNT, type d'algo utilisé pour
le redressement, linéaire ou bicubique par exemple, et nombre de points de
recalage).
Aussi il peut être intéressant d'avoir des photos en différentes saisons
(par exemple pour voir en hiver ce qui est masqué par les feuillages des
arbres dans les zones forestières, où on peine à deviner les sentiers ou
ruisseaux, qui eux ne bougent pas sensiblement d'une année sur l'autre et
qu'on aurait intérêt à tracer même sur une orthophoto un peu plus ancienne
mais à la bonne saison, et même si la précision n'est que de 50cm par pixel.
On devrait donc avoir trois types d'assemblage: le plus précis (notamment
en zone urbaine où le détail de la circulation est le plus délicat à voir
(même en s'aidant de photos Mapillary plus ou moins bien cadrées), le plus
récent (pour détecter de nouveaux aménagements et les tracer un peu mieux
que sommairement à la main en oubliant des détails comme le nombre de
voies, la position modifiée des chemins piétons, la taille réelle d'un
giratoire, un nouvel abri bus pour un arrêt déplacé, etc.), ou en hiver
seulement pour les zones forestières (voir les sentiers et rivières
notamment). Les besoins ne sont pas les mêmes partout.

En tout cas merci pour ces nouvelles orthos en ligne. Il en manque
maintenant surtout en Île-de-France (hormis une petite partie de Paris les
portes de l'Oise au Nord-Nord-Est), dans le Val-de-Loire (sauf la ville de
Tour), l'Aquitaine (sauf la ville de Bordeaux), l'Auvergne, et l'Occitanie
(hors de la zone côtière) : la trop fameuse "diagonale du vide". Pour la
Champagne la précision est moyenne mais suffisante car le terrain est pas
compliqué du tout, de grandes plaines très plates, des routes très peu
tortueuses et des villes peu denses). Pour l'Alsace c'est mitigé.

Sinon les zones de montagne dans les Alpes ont encore une
orthorectification très fluctuante, la précision brute par pixel ne suffit
pas, les angles de vue jouent encore un grand rôle et on a encore des
tracés OSM largement "à la louche" et des raccordements de routes un peu
fantaisistes (apparemment devinés ou supposés, mais pas toujours la
possibilité de voir d'autres angles car les zones rurales sont peu
explorées par la photo au sol type Maillary, et le diable se cache dans le
détail des interdictions d'accès et voies privées, ou chemins
impraticables) Même cas aussi en Guadeloupe et Martinique où des tas de
choses évoluent à cause des dégâts des récents cyclones, on doit jongler
entre prises de vues: la précision brute pour la géométrie correcte et
désambiguiser ce qui se télescope, puis la fraicheur pour repérer ce qui
est accessible ou pas. Et je pense qu'après cet hiver venteux et très
pluvieux on va devoir revoir ce qui a changé sur le littoral de la Corse ou
dans les Cévennes.

Les plus belles imageries et les plus faciles à exploiter visuellement sont
celles du printemps (avant que la végétation soit trop dense, donc vers
mars-avril; en été on a beaucoup moins de contraste et de couleur, en hiver
aussi même si on voit mieux les sentiers et ruisseaux forestiers, en
automne on ne voit pas les distinctions des zones agricoles). Les horaires
de prise de vue jouent aussi (notamment la présence d'ombres).



Le mar. 24 déc. 2019 à 15:02, Christian Quest  a
écrit :

> Le mar. 24 déc. 2019 à 14:41, Cyrille37 OSM 
> a écrit :
>
>> Super. Merci Christian.
>>
>> J'ai probablement oublié... mais pourquoi "orthohr" n'est pas dispo pour
>> tous les départements ?
>>
>
> Ça... ce sont les départements/régions qui les financent en partie avec
> des aides européennes. Si je ne me trompe pas, une des conditions de l'aide
> européenne c'est que ça soit mis en opendata... du coup elles sont
> téléchargeables et diffusées contractuellement par l'IGN (en prenant son
> temps: des prises de vues de 2017 téléchargeables en septembre 2019, no
> comment).
>
> Les autres départements soit ne financent pas l'ortho qui est faite sur
> leur territoire, soit ne l'ont toujours pas mise en opendata (cas du 94)...
> et c'est pas l'IGN qui va le faire si ils n'y sont pas obligé !
>
> Dans le même genre, la BD Ortho à 50cm est en opendata sur ces mêmes
> départements (et uniquement ceux-là), alors qu'elle l'est en théorie sur
> l'ensemble du territoire, l'IGN ne pouvant percevoir de redevance de
> réutilisation qu'au delà de ces 50cm/pixel pour les ortho.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Orthos: mise à jour 2018 sur de nombreux départements

[Christian Quest]

Le mar. 24 déc. 2019 à 14:41, Cyrille37 OSM  a
écrit :

> Super. Merci Christian.
>
> J'ai probablement oublié... mais pourquoi "orthohr" n'est pas dispo pour
> tous les départements ?
>

Ça... ce sont les départements/régions qui les financent en partie avec des
aides européennes. Si je ne me trompe pas, une des conditions de l'aide
européenne c'est que ça soit mis en opendata... du coup elles sont
téléchargeables et diffusées contractuellement par l'IGN (en prenant son
temps: des prises de vues de 2017 téléchargeables en septembre 2019, no
comment).

Les autres départements soit ne financent pas l'ortho qui est faite sur
leur territoire, soit ne l'ont toujours pas mise en opendata (cas du 94)...
et c'est pas l'IGN qui va le faire si ils n'y sont pas obligé !

Dans le même genre, la BD Ortho à 50cm est en opendata sur ces mêmes
départements (et uniquement ceux-là), alors qu'elle l'est en théorie sur
l'ensemble du territoire, l'IGN ne pouvant percevoir de redevance de
réutilisation qu'au delà de ces 50cm/pixel pour les ortho.

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Re: [Talk-dk] Københavnsvej U-turn

[Niels Elgaard Larsen]

sfro...@gmail.com:
> Hvis det ikke var tilladt at køre på den tydeligvis anlagte rute, ville der 
> være
> skiltning med venstresving forbudt.

Ja, det er også derfor vejen er der.

Men for det første, hvorfor er den tagget som ensrettet?
Der er jo heller ikke nogen skiltning, der forbyder, at man kører den modsatte 
vej.


For det andet er der jo absolut heller ingen skiltning eller markeringer på 
vejbanen,
der gør opmærksom på denne smutvej. For en sekundær vej er det lidt usædvanligt.

Jeg ville gerne degradere den fra en secondary_link til fx service.

Jeg ser det lidt som at skyde en genvej ind gennem benzintanken på hjørnet. Det 
er
ikke forbudt, men det er heller ikke meningen med vejen og det ville slet ikke 
virke
hvis alle gjorde det. Og det er noget som rutningsprogrammer klogeligt undgår.

Jeg ved ikke hvorfor nogen bruger denne smutvej på Københavnsvej. Jeg kan ikke 
finde
et eksempel, hvor det giver nogen som helst mening.
Det må enten være fordi de har misset afkørsel 11 på motorvejen, eller måske 
har det
været kø der.
Eller også er de blevet vildledt af deres rutningssoftware.

Fx som her:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=graphhopper_car=55.6291%2C12.1084%3B55.6434%2C12.1246


Jeg ville være ret utilfreds hvis min GPS havde ledt mig den vej. Jeg ville ikke
turde lave venstresvinget hvis der var nogen biler bag mig, og ville så vende i 
næste
rundkørsel.


OSRM er dog bedre her:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car=55.6291%2C12.1084%3B55.6434%2C12.1246#map=15/55.6366/12.1165

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[Talk-ca] hebdoOSM Nº 491 2019-12-10-2019-12-16

[theweekly . osm]

Bonjour,

Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 491 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître 
*en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur :

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/12659/

Bonne lecture !

Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note 
hebdomadaire sans être membre ? Il vous suffit de vous connecter sur 
https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login avec votre compte OSM. Pour en savoir plus 
sur la rédaction d'un article, cliquez ici: 
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm

hebdoOSM ? 
Qui : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
Où : 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3
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[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 491 2019-12-10-2019-12-16

[theweekly . osm]

Bonjour,

Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 491 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître 
*en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur :

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/12659/

Bonne lecture !

Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note 
hebdomadaire sans être membre ? Il vous suffit de vous connecter sur 
https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login avec votre compte OSM. Pour en savoir plus 
sur la rédaction d'un article, cliquez ici: 
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm

hebdoOSM ? 
Qui : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
Où : 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3
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[Talk-ht] hebdoOSM Nº 491 2019-12-10-2019-12-16

[theweekly . osm]

Bonjour,

Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 491 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître 
*en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur :

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/12659/

Bonne lecture !

Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note 
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https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login avec votre compte OSM. Pour en savoir plus 
sur la rédaction d'un article, cliquez ici: 
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm

hebdoOSM ? 
Qui : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
Où : 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3
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[Talk-africa] hebdoOSM Nº 491 2019-12-10-2019-12-16

[theweekly . osm]

Bonjour,

Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 491 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître 
*en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur :

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/12659/

Bonne lecture !

Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note 
hebdomadaire sans être membre ? Il vous suffit de vous connecter sur 
https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login avec votre compte OSM. Pour en savoir plus 
sur la rédaction d'un article, cliquez ici: 
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm

hebdoOSM ? 
Qui : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
Où : 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Orthos: mise à jour 2018 sur de nombreux départements

[Cyrille37 OSM]

Super. Merci Christian.

J'ai probablement oublié... mais pourquoi "orthohr" n'est pas dispo pour 
tous les départements ?


Cyrille.

Le 19/12/2019 à 16:50, Christian Quest a écrit :
Elle n'est peut être pas dans les presets... il faut dire que c'est 
une couche composite, pas simple à gérer pour l'attribution !


Pour info, nouveaux départements en version 2018: 02 59 60 62 80

Certains sont dispo pour la première fois (02/60/80).


Le mer. 18 déc. 2019 à 18:22, David Crochet > a écrit :


Bonjour

Le 17/12/2019 à 12:14, Christian Quest a écrit :
> - tous_fr : qui est combinaisons de toutes les orthos, en
priorisant
> la date puis la résolution


Je ne le trouve pas disponible dans JOSM, il faut le rajouter à la
main ?

Cordialement

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[Talk-se] Vart har Maxar Premium Imagery tagit vägen?

[Lennart Romberg]

Sen nån vecka hittar jag inte Maxar Premium Imagery. I JOSM får jag en
felutskrift och i ID finns den inte längre bland valbara bakgrunder. Nåt
tillfälligt eller har den försvunnit för gott?

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Orthos: mise à jour 2018 sur de nombreux départements

[Stéphane Péneau]

Ça commence à faire une sacrée arborescence toutes ces ortho. Un vrai 
sapin de Noël !


Stf

Le 24/12/2019 à 10:49, Christian Quest a écrit :

Encore quelques orthos de plus...
- après un aller/retour postal, l'ortho de Loire Atlantique à 10cm (de 
2016) est arrivée sur son disque dur et est dispo seule dans la couche 
fr_d44_2016 et intégrée dans tous_fr
- les orthohr de 2017 de La Réunion, St Martin et St Barthélémy, 
téléchargeables depuis peu sont en cours de traitement...


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[OSM-talk-fr] opendata... SHOM, Alpes-Maritimes

[Christian Quest]

Le SHOM publie quelques jeux de données en opendata, mais sont
difficilement "découvrables" ou téléchargeables.

Une copie se trouve maintenant sur http://data.cquest.org/shom/
- trait de côte
- limites maritimes
etc...


Par ailleurs, le département des Alpes Maritimes a ouvert son portail
opendata et quelques jeux de données sont intéressants:
- limites de tonnage et gabarits sur les routes départementales (maxweight,
maxheight, maxwidth, maxlength)
- des annuaires

J'ai intégré les maxweight, quelque maxheight...

->
https://www.departement06.fr/l-information-du-departement/opendata-29882.html

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tagging proposal for cycling highways (Fietssnelwegen)

[Jo]

All the figments of my imagination have been removed. I reviewed the
remaining ones, and fixed them here and there. Where it's not possible to
use them today to get from the start till the end, they are marked as
state=proposed.

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

[Mateusz Konieczny]

23 Dec 2019, 19:59 by matkoni...@tutanota.com:

>
>
>
> 23 Dec 2019, 17:59 by joost.schou...@gmail.com:
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> As an xmas bonus, here's another Facebookcompany (via Mapbox), 
>>> Snapchat that is using OSM withoutattribution requirements (funnily 
>>> there's plenty of space for areasonable and visible calculated 
>>> mapbox logo and text). Theyprobably don't know, nor that they have 
>>> been asked to complyover a year ago, nor have agreed with the 
>>> license in everyaspect of it when stated using OSM data, nor read 
>>> Mapbox TOS, orMapbox been informed on these repeated offenders, nor 
>>> read themultiples reports in mailing lists, nor that they had a 
>>> employeethat ran for OSMF board.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://map.snapchat.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Let's continue to be hypocrites and pretendnothing is going on for 
>>> over a year with these two companiesthat are corporate members of 
>>> OSMF and should be the first onesto give examples. Enough with 
>>> excuses. 
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The Snapchat case is a pretty clear example of how not to do things. If 
>> there's space for Mapbox, there's space for OpenStreetMap. But I don't think 
>> Snapchat has anything to do with Facebook.
>>
>> Phil, I hope you contacted them directly and not through Facebook.
>>
> It is quite hard to find place where one
> may report this kind of info using email.
>
> I used > pr...@snap.com>  - is anyone aware 
> of any better email address for this kind of reports?
>
I also complained at 

https://support.mapbox.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=36308212

My request was assigned id 77032
according to the automated email.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Orthos: mise à jour 2018 sur de nombreux départements

[Christian Quest]

Encore quelques orthos de plus...
- après un aller/retour postal, l'ortho de Loire Atlantique à 10cm (de
2016) est arrivée sur son disque dur et est dispo seule dans la couche
fr_d44_2016 et intégrée dans tous_fr
- les orthohr de 2017 de La Réunion, St Martin et St Barthélémy,
téléchargeables depuis peu sont en cours de traitement...

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Re: [Talk-dk] Københavnsvej U-turn

[sfromis]

Hvis det ikke var tilladt at køre på den tydeligvis anlagte rute, ville der
være skiltning med venstresving forbudt. Tværtimod er der punkteret
sidestribe som eksplicit markering af at det er meningen at der skal kunne
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Re: [Talk-dk] Københavnsvej U-turn

[Sonny B. Andersen]

Altså, nu er det jo ikke et orakel, du har siddende i forruden på din bil eller 
på cykelstyret.
Jeg ved ikke, om det ville være smart at indføre en tag, der advarer mod 
uhensigtsmæssig kørsel, men det er nok at gå for vidt.
Hvis du skal løse dette problem, så kunne du kontakte kommunen og bede dem 
ensrette eller spærre smutvejen – husk at opdatere OSM, hvis det lykkes!.

P.S.: Apropos routning, så har jeg pt et problem med min Garmin Drive, hvor jeg 
efter den seneste opdatering får meddelelsen ”Du er på vej i den forkerte 
retning”, når jeg drejer ud af fra min indkørsel. Nu er det jo mig, der kører 
bil og ikke Garmin, så jeg vælger at ignorere vrøvlet. – Det kunne du jo også 
gøre!

Hilsen og god jul til alle aktive mappere,
Sonny B. Andersen
www.bukhmark.dk
tlf.: +45 2091 3901

Fra: Uffe Kousgaard
Sendt: 24. december 2019 09:19
Til: talk-dk@openstreetmap.org
Emne: Re: [Talk-dk] Københavnsvej U-turn

Så kan du jo bare lade være med at kigge på Street view.

Her er flere eksempler med SDFE's skråfotos:
https://skraafoto.kortforsyningen.dk/oblivisionjsoff/index.aspx?project=Denmark=10.2027929=56.1277927

Endda med 2 biler som anvender vejstrækningen.


On 24-12-2019 09:03, Michael Andersen wrote:
> Her må jeg lige minde om at Google Streetview ikke må anvendes ved arbejde på
> OSM (Se f.eks. 
> https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/63225/using-google-maps-street-view-and-satellite-to-see-streets-and-house-numbers).
>
> Brug istedet Mapillary
>
> Mvh Hjart
>
> tirsdag den 24. december 2019 08.43.09 CET skrev Uffe Kousgaard:
>> Hej,
>>
>> Ja, den er god nok, men efter afkørsel 11 kom til for snart en del år
>> siden, er det nok ret begrænset, hvor meget den bruges.
>> Google Streetview har nyere og bedre billeder af stedet med tydelige
>> slidmærker fra dæk.
>>
>> mvh
>> Uffe Kousgaard
>>
>> On 24-12-2019 01:53, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote:
>>> Den her rutning ville jeg godt nok ikke være tryg ved at følge.
>>>
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=graphhopper_car=55.6
>>> 4403%2C12.13471%3B55.64457%2C12.13471#map=19/55.64429/12.13513
>>>
>>> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=55.644018198415324=12.1343904454374
>>> 75=17=photo=true=qShU8olPgHuaj81P9O7kyA=0.46234242134
>>> 218306=0.5925420046262054=1.1020408163265307
>>>
>>> Det ser ud som om den faktisk bliver brugt.
>>> Men det ser også ud til at de fleste kører op over græsset, hvilket nok
>>> også er lidt mindre uforsvarligt.
>>>
>>> Er der nogen, der kender Københavnsvej?
>>> Er der virkelig meningen at man skal køre den vej, eller det lavet af
>>> hensyn til fx politi og ambulancer? For så er det ikke en secondary link.
>>> Måske kan vi tagge det som highway=service.
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Re: [Talk-it] aggiungere immagini 360° a OSM

[Alessandro Palmas]

Il 23/12/19 22:19, Maria Prontera ha scritto:

Salve
sono nuova nell'uso di OSM.
Un cliente mi ha commissionato la creazione di 13 percorsi pedonali con 
immagini 360° e punti di interesse su di esse.


Ho letto su wikipedia di Open Trail View: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenTrailView


Non mi è chiaro se posso inserire punti di interesse con icone 
personalizzate ed elementi multimediali: immagini, testi, audio e video.


Ci sono esempi in rete? Eventualmente anche tutorials?

Grazie
Maria Prontera




Ciao,
OSM è un database geografico i cui oggetti (primitive) sono punti e linee.
Foto e video vengono sovrapposte allo strato OSM, usato meramente come 
strato di sfondo, e provengono da altri progetti o repository.
Mapillary è un progetto di mappatura del mondo tramite foto e video, 
abbastanza maturo.
Io ogni tanto faccio mappatura con una fotocamera sferica Ricoh Theta S. 
Puoi vedere un paio di esempi:
1) a Brindisi in auto 
https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/bZu9YTSmiUlGkcKC8wc_UQ (puoi navigare 
da una foto all'altra o col bottone play vedere uno pseudo filmato), nel 
link successivo hai il codice per inserirlo una una pagina html.


src="https://embed-v1.mapillary.com/embed?version=1=%5B%22all%22%5D_filter=%5B%22all%22%5D_style=Mapillary 
streets_key=bZu9YTSmiUlGkcKC8wc_UQ=0.055572364288169196=0.5735383113037303_id=U0VKMUtoa1llbEI1NEpjV1JVdEFwUTo1ZTVmMGM2MDhmODQ2MGRl=photo" 
frameborder="0">


Entrambi i link sono ottenuti cliccando sul bottone sharing.

2) a Chiavari a piedi, senza curare troppo l'allineamento della camera

https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/_2efSgvwi1d-sBshmTxhKw

src="https://embed-v1.mapillary.com/embed?version=1=%5B%22all%22%5D_filter=%5B%22all%22%5D_style=Mapillary 
streets_key=_2efSgvwi1d-sBshmTxhKw=0.9020019142025028=0.5501245308616575_id=U0VKMUtoa1llbEI1NEpjV1JVdEFwUTo1ZTVmMGM2MDhmODQ2MGRl=split" 
frameborder="0">



Dopo aver caricato una sequenza (supporta anche i video sia piani che 
sferici) puoi editare la posizione, nel caso il GPS non posizionasse 
correttamente la singola foto. Puoi mostrare la sequenza direttamente 
con Mapillary o pensare a qualche visualizzazione customizzata, se 
conosci e possiedi sw quale ArcGIS o altri. Devo dire che dove lavoro 
abbiamo testato Mapillary con ArcGIS ma sino a 3 mesi fa il supporto era 
abbastanza acerbo.


Qui hai il link alle API, in caso volessi interrogare il database Mapillary
https://blog.mapillary.com/product/2017/01/26/mapillary-api-v3.html


Ti è stato suggerito anche Umap. E' un'interfaccia utente semplice da 
usare che sfrutta le potenti librerie LeafLetjs https://leafletjs.com/

che con cento e passa plugin permette di fare tante belle cose con le mappe.

Saluti
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[OSM-ja] name-suggestion-index でのタイムズの名称について

[OKADA Tsuneo]

岡田です。

Githubがよくわかってないので、誰か対応いただけるとうれしいなと
思いつつ、こちらに流しておきます。

iDを使っていて、name-suggestion-indexの機能と思うのですが、
名称で「タイムズ - 駐車場」を選ぶと名称のプリセット値が
---
name=Times
name:ja=Times
name:en=タイムズ
---
となります。
いやいや、name:jaとname:enが逆ですよね。
nameも日本語にして欲しいなと思います。

今日初めて見たなと思いましたが、iDのバージョンが2.17.0になってたので
このバージョンで入ったのでしょうね。

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Re: [Talk-dk] Københavnsvej U-turn

[Michael Andersen]

Her må jeg lige minde om at Google Streetview ikke må anvendes ved arbejde på 
OSM (Se f.eks. 
https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/63225/using-google-maps-street-view-and-satellite-to-see-streets-and-house-numbers).

Brug istedet Mapillary

Mvh Hjart

tirsdag den 24. december 2019 08.43.09 CET skrev Uffe Kousgaard:
> Hej,
> 
> Ja, den er god nok, men efter afkørsel 11 kom til for snart en del år
> siden, er det nok ret begrænset, hvor meget den bruges.
> Google Streetview har nyere og bedre billeder af stedet med tydelige
> slidmærker fra dæk.
> 
> mvh
> Uffe Kousgaard
> 
> On 24-12-2019 01:53, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote:
> > Den her rutning ville jeg godt nok ikke være tryg ved at følge.
> > 
> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=graphhopper_car=55.6
> > 4403%2C12.13471%3B55.64457%2C12.13471#map=19/55.64429/12.13513
> > 
> > https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=55.644018198415324=12.1343904454374
> > 75=17=photo=true=qShU8olPgHuaj81P9O7kyA=0.46234242134
> > 218306=0.5925420046262054=1.1020408163265307
> > 
> > Det ser ud som om den faktisk bliver brugt.
> > Men det ser også ud til at de fleste kører op over græsset, hvilket nok
> > også er lidt mindre uforsvarligt.
> > 
> > Er der nogen, der kender Københavnsvej?
> > Er der virkelig meningen at man skal køre den vej, eller det lavet af
> > hensyn til fx politi og ambulancer? For så er det ikke en secondary link.
> > Måske kan vi tagge det som highway=service.
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