Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 16 June 2010 16:30, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I think Peter Ross is correct in that orienteering is the sport with the closest mapping needs to bushwalking. The orienteering information Peter posted seem to have a lot of features specific to that sport... As for the rest of the

[talk-au] Playing with transparent layers

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
While playing round with mapnik style sheets I came across a noname style sheet which makes a red line for the way: http://beta.letuffe.org/mapnik-styles/noname.xml I extended it a little by making it render up to z7, and it also ignores unnamed roundabouts:

Re: [talk-au] Playing with transparent layers

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
I forgot to mention, the author of the style sheet uses the following tags to hide streets with no names, or at least no sign posts: tag k='validate:no_name' v='no_sign'/ tag k='validate:no_name' v='yes'/ ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Proposal to update weather monitoring_stations using BoM data.

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 16 June 2010 21:56, {Tim} m526244+osm...@gmail.com wrote: In the absence of any objection I intend proceeding with this scheme on the coming Monday (21st June, 2010). Can you please update a couple of stations and paste links showing what you plan to do?

Re: [talk-au] Proposal to update weather monitoring_stations using BoM data.

2010-06-16 Thread Liz
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, John Smith wrote: On 16 June 2010 21:56, {Tim} m526244+osm...@gmail.com wrote: In the absence of any objection I intend proceeding with this scheme on the coming Monday (21st June, 2010). Can you please update a couple of stations and paste links showing what you plan

Re: [talk-au] Proposal to update weather monitoring_stations using BoM data.

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 16 June 2010 22:24, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: specific request to check hillston airport Station Details ID: 075032 Name: HILLSTON AIRPORT and hay airport Station Details ID: 075019 Name: HAY AIRPORT AWS as i have found those ones and moved them already the numbers on the BoM

[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Calling all bulk importers

2010-06-16 Thread Richard Weait
Important information for folks who have imported data. -- Forwarded message -- From: Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz Date: Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:21 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Calling all bulk importers To: t...@openstreetmap.org Hi, If you have been involved in bulk import of

[talk-au] State of the Map 2010 - Girona Spain

2010-06-16 Thread Richard Weait
Hello Australian list, Are any of you planning to attend SotM 2010? Because you should. Book your ticket to SotM now. http://stateofthemap.org/register-now/ If you are considering attending SotM but don't know if it will be worthwhile, I say this. Yes, it will be worthwhile. There is no

[talk-au] Generating good looking PDF/SVG maps?

2010-06-16 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi. Does anyone have any pointers for generating high quality PDF or SVG maps (suitable for printing)? I have a couple of use cases in mind: * My other half would love a large (e.g. A0 size) printed street map. I have found places that can print that size from PDF, but I'm not sure how to

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread Tom Brennan
I'm a bushwalker and I'm attempting to map the Blue Mountains, including roads, tracks, cliffs and watercourses. A key reason is that I'd like to be able to use OSM to auto-generate maps for my website, which I currently have to create by hand eg

[talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Stephen Hope
I'm doing some work on the outskirts of Brisbane, where the properties start to get bigger, doing some clean up. And I got to wondering about residential landuse. At one end of the scale, you have inner city housing (350-1000 sq m lots), and there's no question they are residential. At the

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:57 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Some of us were discussing making a custom hiking map styles on IRC earlier so we can print out such maps or use them in presentations to show bush walkers the potential of what they can get back out of OSM. In case

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
Stephen, I am facing the same issue in Bendigo. I have been considering suggesting a landuse=rural_residential tag. AS you state, these blocks are too small for farming and are therefore still residential. In general, these sort of areas are on the periphery of townships and are a transition into

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 10:39, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: I am facing the same issue in Bendigo. I have been considering suggesting a landuse=rural_residential tag. AS you state, these blocks are too small for Aren't they commonly known as hobby farms if you have a few animals

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 07:17, Tom Brennan webs...@ozultimate.com wrote: Other than contours, the key things bushwalkers want to see for Do you have any suggestions on how contours should be marked? eg every 10m elevation, or 5 or 50 or ... ? navigation are: - tracks - render as dashed black line

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
I am sure they are called numerous things, what is the most appropriate/most commonly recognised term in the Australian context? A farm is an area of land that you derive the majority of your income from. Given the drought of the last decade it could be argued that there are many more hobby farms

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 11:33, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: A farm is an area of land that you derive the majority of your income from. Given the drought of the last decade it could be argued that there are many more hobby farms across the southern states. Personally I don't like

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
are we mapping for tax purposes? what is it referred to in the local government act (or planning act) of your particular state. not all of these properties will be classified as a hobby farm ie I may have 40 hectares but only grow a few weeds. On 17 June 2010 11:37, John Smith

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 11:40, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: are we mapping for tax purposes? We map what ever is verifiable, a tax purpose might be verifiable :D what is it referred to in the local government act (or planning act) of your particular state. No idea, I've always

Re: [talk-au] Generating good looking PDF/SVG maps?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 06:16, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote: My current thinking is that Mapnik would be the best tool for this. I don't know what produces a SVG file, but if you click on the export tag on the main OSM website you can export areas as SVG.

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
My argument is that a tax purpose is not a land use - you can run a small business (tax purpose) from a residential address but it doesn't make it a commercial property. On 17 June 2010 11:42, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 June 2010 11:40, Craig Feuerherdt

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:30 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:   - ideally there needs to be more granularity of track difficulty     - track_visibility=* is probably useful     - sac_scale=* is less useful as it is too specific to alpine areas     - however, something

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:07 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 June 2010 10:39, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: I am facing the same issue in Bendigo. I have been considering suggesting a landuse=rural_residential tag. AS you state, these blocks are too

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 13:49, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Try Australian Standard AS 2156.1-2001 (Walking tracks - Classification and signage) http://infostore.saiglobal.com/store2/Details.aspx?ProductID=260163 (not free, but try e.g. the following page for some details:

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
I don't disagree Roy. I still argue that the land use isn't wholly residential and that these peri-urban areas are a distinct land use. The other alternative is another tag to help (those who want to) distinguish between types of landuse? On 17 June 2010 13:54, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 14:09, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: I don't disagree Roy. I still argue that the land use isn't wholly residential and that these peri-urban areas are a distinct land use. The other alternative is another tag to help (those who want to) distinguish

Re: [talk-au] Proposal to update weather monitoring_stations using BoM data.

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 14:06, {Tim} m526244+osm...@gmail.com wrote: In essence there's six cases, varying in reliability of the result: 1. Example: Ballina Airport AWS http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/741763977 * Site already exists in OSM; both WMO:id and name details match those

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:11 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 June 2010 14:09, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: I don't disagree Roy. I still argue that the land use isn't wholly residential and that these peri-urban areas are a distinct land use. The

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread John Henderson
On 17/06/10 15:27, John Smith wrote: tagging names... AS2156=* isn't descriptive enough, the standard covers several aspects from gradients to publicity, this document was interesting, if nothing else for the publicity section on the bottom of page 5:

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 15:46, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I may have raised this issue in the past. Walking tracks are never signposted or otherwise marked through declared wilderness areas. This includes some sections of the Australian Alps Walking Track. Maps should not show tracks in

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
+1 nothing is ever perfect in everyones eyes, but I can live with it :) On 17 June 2010 15:19, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:11 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 June 2010 14:09, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: I