Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

2018-06-29 Thread Andrew Harvey
For places like `St Peters` and `St Leonards` the `St` abbreviation has become widely accepted by the community to the point that it's almost no longer an abbreviation. So I'd say it should be `St Peters` and not use `Saint Peters` even as an alt_name.

Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

2018-06-29 Thread Adrian Hobbs
Maybe I am missing something here, but to my mind road and place naming is pretty clear cut. See:- "Guidelines for the determination of place names" a fact sheet by the Geographic Names Board of NSW

Re: [talk-au] Pathogen Control Stations

2018-06-29 Thread Warin
To avoid future misuse of the tag there needs to be 2 tags One for cleansing - elimination of contaminates The other for cleaning - beautification If only one tag were made people would use it for both functions.  I really do want to avoid the misuse of the tag by those who cannot be bothered

Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

2018-06-29 Thread Warin
On 29/06/18 21:08, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Warin wrote: I expand these out to Saint. I think that is correct in the English language. It is expressly _incorrect_ in British English and if this were a UK discussion you would be asked to put them back to St. I can't speak for Australian

Re: [talk-au] Pathogen Control Stations

2018-06-29 Thread Jonathon Rossi
Thanks Warin, I read your suggestion for "man_made=boot_cleansing", I'd opt for "man_made=shoe_cleansing" since I don't wear boots but running shoes as a runner not a hiker. The QPWS web site mentions "footwear", I think shoe would be the most inclusive term. P.S. Sorry I didn't reply on the

Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

2018-06-29 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Warin wrote: > I expand these out to Saint. I think that is correct in the English > language. It is expressly _incorrect_ in British English and if this were a UK discussion you would be asked to put them back to St. I can't speak for Australian English but it wouldn't surprise me if it were the

Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

2018-06-29 Thread Michael
>From “The Cambridge Guide to Australian English Usage” Page 713-714 https://books.google.com.au/books?id=FKpcDwAAQBAJ Saint or St The conventions for writing saints' names depend on the context: whether it's a reference to the saint himself or herself, or to an institution or place

Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

2018-06-29 Thread Warin
Further thought; I'm certain the Federal Governments 'Style Manual for authors, editors and printers.' would have something to say on it. It looks like I can borrow it from a local library. ISBN 0701636483 (pkb), 0701636475 https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/13429246?q=Style+manual=book

Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

2018-06-29 Thread Warin
Many church names in Australia have names containing 'Saint' followed by a persons name these are are commonly abbreviated 'St'. I expand these out to Saint. I think that is correct in the English language. I don't think the alt_name should carry the abbreviation, nor an expanded version.

Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

2018-06-29 Thread Michael
The usage of Saint “Name” is wrong in the English language and should not be used. The only time you use that notation is when you write about the person specifically. Also in French Saint “Name” is acceptable just to be confusing, but this about Australian names and they should all be

Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

2018-06-29 Thread Nemanja Bračko
​​ Hi! The easiest way is to add alt_name with abbreviation. Also if community agrees, it is possible to put abbreviation in the name tag (because of rendering name on the map), but use "Saint" as alt_name. Best Regrads, Nemanja On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:18 AM Philip Mallis wrote: > It depends