Many church names in Australia have names containing 'Saint' followed by a
persons name these are are commonly abbreviated 'St'.
I expand these out to Saint. I think that is correct in the English language.
I don't think the alt_name should carry the abbreviation, nor an expanded
version.
For St Leonards .. there are two Saint Leonards
Saint Leonard of Port Maurice 1676-1751
Saint Leonard of Noblac -559
Saint Peter is well known ... well one of them at least. :)
---------------- Following a UK example?
Having a bet both ways ? In the UK a search on St Leonard lead me to
Node: Drayton Saint Leonard (21268304) - Saint - centre of the place.
Relation: Drayton St. Leonard (1864544)- St. - parish boundary.
Yes these are both the same area.
So .. for the suburbs/towns/villages at least it can be done both ways ..
without using alt_name.
On 29/06/18 17:31, Michael wrote:
The usage of Saint “Name” is wrong in the English language and should
not be used.
The only time you use that notation is when you write about the person
specifically.
Also in French Saint “Name” is acceptable just to be confusing, but
this about Australian names and they should all be English (Unlike Canada)
What we might have to consider is that in indexing you use S*a*int not
S*t*, do we need to have it explicitly in the tagging (ie alt_name) or
is this the responsibility of the renderer to work out?
Michael
*From:*Nemanja Bračko <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Friday, 29 June 2018 5:02 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?
Hi!
The easiest way is to add alt_name with abbreviation. Also if
community agrees, it is possible to put abbreviation in the name tag
(because of rendering name on the map), but use "Saint" as alt_name.
Best Regrads,
Nemanja
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:18 AM Philip Mallis <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
It depends on the context. St Kilda in Melbourne is another
example where that is used instead of 'Saint'.
Sent from my iPhone
On 29 Jun 2018, at 10:28, cleary <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
In New South Wales, the Geographic Names Board register shows
the Sydney suburb Mount Druitt (no abbreviation) while the
adjacent suburb is St Marys (always St and never Saint). The
same applies to places named St Peters and St Leonards. Using
the word "Saint" would not accord with the places' official
names.
I understand there is a tendency to remove sectarian
references so that "St" can be pronounced as the speaker
wishes and is not necessarily "Saint".
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, at 5:21 AM, Nathan Ginther (Insight
Global Inc) wrote:
Hello all, our team has come into an interesting situation
regarding road name abbreviations, we know that as a
policy we spell out any and all abbreviations on the OSM
map, however it looks like we may have run into an
exception in the use of “Saint vs St”
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Invalid_Abbreviation_Expansion).
It looks like the use of “St” instead of spelling out
“Saint” is accepted within the mapping community, and
might be the proper English spelling, but we want to get
the response from the community as what is the
accepted/preferred use when naming roads specifically,
should we be spelling out Saint, or using St?
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