Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2010-01-01 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: By contrast, in my suburb of Ruse, NSW (not far from Harrington Park - look it up) there is a major road (Junction Road) through the middle of it, rendered as tertiary, and always coloured yellow in street directories.

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-29 Thread John Smith
2009/12/29 Liz ed...@billiau.net: On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote: These days all public roads should be named, note should I couldn't get find a name for one rural road, emailed the relevant Council (Cabonne Shire) and the naming proposal was stuck somewhere in the bureaucracy. It

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-29 Thread John Smith
2009/12/29 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: What about service roads? They're lined with houses, and used primarily by people accessing those homes. Surely highway=service. I marked a couple of ways today that is the primary access to residential buildings as highway=track, because it was

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-28 Thread Liz
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote: On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:19:11 +1100 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: When tagging roads, what do you use for roads in a purely industrial area? There isn't anything for industrial, so I've been changing unknown and No preset to residential

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-28 Thread Richard Colless
highway=unclassified good deal of discussion about this so another point of view is "residential" for those industrial area streets and unclassified is a road classification below tertiary in rural areas (there is no conclusion about this, whether this

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-28 Thread John Smith
2009/12/28 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au: From a user's point of view, I would expect to see major roads one colour, secondary roads another colour. I wouldn't expect to see a different colour just because a road goes past factories instead of homes. Do unclassified and residential both

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-28 Thread Liz
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Steve Bennett wrote: And like you said, what difference is there really between a road that goes past factories and one that goes past homes? here b**er all but in parts of Europe where town plans date from the Middle Ages, apparently a lot.

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-28 Thread Franc Carter
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:50:58 +1100 Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote: But it's just one more reason to use

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-28 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: My 2 cents: anything that is less important than tertiary is: 1) if it is a named/public road: * residential if lined primarily with people's homes and used primarily by people accessing those homes * unclassified

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-28 Thread Liz
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Franc Carter wrote: I believe (correctly ?) that in general roundabouts don't have names in Australia Some do, but the majority don't South Hay Roundabout (the first in NSW, 1974) Goolgowi Roundabout (by common usage) Kissell's Roundabout with a sign in place to declare it

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-28 Thread John Henderson
Steve Bennett wrote: Also, what about weird dinky little strets you sometimes get in suburbia that are paved with red bricks or something equally creative, but are also the primary means of access to houses? Residential or service? highway=living_street if signage says that pedestrians have

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-28 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: My 2 cents: anything that is less important than tertiary is: 1) if it is a named/public road:  * residential if lined primarily with people's homes and used primarily by people accessing those homes  * unclassified

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-28 Thread John Smith
2009/12/29 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: That depends what you mean by service road. Following the scheme given by 1) and 2) above: If it's named/public, highway=residential. Otherwise, highway=service. I generally tag lane ways as highway=service, as that's what they generally are,

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-28 Thread John Smith
2009/12/29 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: What about service roads? They're lined with houses, and used primarily by people accessing those homes. Surely highway=service. Ask 10 people and you'd probably get 10 different answers... Also, what about weird dinky little strets you sometimes

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-28 Thread John Smith
2009/12/29 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: 1) if it is a named/public road:  * residential if lined primarily with people's homes and used primarily by people accessing those homes  * unclassified otherwise In Australia unclassified usually only applies to rural roads, at least that's what

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-28 Thread Liz
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote: These days all public roads should be named, note should I couldn't get find a name for one rural road, emailed the relevant Council (Cabonne Shire) and the naming proposal was stuck somewhere in the bureaucracy.

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-27 Thread Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: 2009/12/27 John Henderson snow...@gmx.com: Richard Colless wrote: I was trying out the latest routable OSM maps, and came across a couple of odd items. One was a roundabout where the Etrex told me to go round it in the wrong direction -

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-27 Thread Liz
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote: But it's just one more reason to use josm. In JOSM you can use copy and paste so I can draw one roundabout with 8 or 12 nodes then copy and paste that roundabout across where I'm working joining up nodes and ways then erasing the central crossroads

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-27 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:50:58 +1100 Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote: But it's just one more reason to use josm. In JOSM you can use copy and paste so I can draw one roundabout with 8 or 12 nodes then copy and paste that roundabout across where I'm working

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-27 Thread John Smith
2009/12/27 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: It would still be nice to have a tool to do it automatically or some way to scale the circle size. What annoys me about the circle tool in JOSM is the fact it doesn't really make nice looking roundabouts, and more often than not I end up merging half

[talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-26 Thread Richard Colless
I was trying out the latest routable OSM maps, and came across a couple of odd items. One was a roundabout where the Etrex told me to go round it in the wrong direction - anti-clockwise. It's the only one that gave me the wrong direction. I assume that there is something wrong in the way the

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-26 Thread Franc Carter
Yep, it was reversed - I fixed it with josm cheers On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: I was trying out the latest routable OSM maps, and came across a couple of odd items. One was a roundabout where the Etrex told me to go round it in the wrong direction

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-26 Thread John Henderson
Richard Colless wrote: I was trying out the latest routable OSM maps, and came across a couple of odd items. One was a roundabout where the Etrex told me to go round it in the wrong direction - anti-clockwise. It's the only one that gave me the wrong direction. I find it a bit odd that

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-26 Thread John Smith
2009/12/27 John Henderson snow...@gmx.com: Richard Colless wrote: I was trying out the latest routable OSM maps, and came across a couple of odd items. One was a roundabout where the Etrex told me to go round it in the wrong direction - anti-clockwise. It's the only one that gave me the wrong

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-26 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:41:40 +1100 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: I assume that there is something wrong in the way the roundabout has been mapped, but Potlatch doesn't show directions for roundabouts. Actually Potlatch does show the direction but its on the reverse way button. If