Re: [talk-au] Database licence

2009-12-06 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote: I'm generally not that overly concerned with the rest of the world, but will be really upset with how this will push Australia backwards, the ABS data and other datasets recently

Re: [talk-au] Database licence

2009-12-06 Thread John Smith
2009/12/6 Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com: Why would we need a fork? No current Australian datasets are CC-BY-SA (or NC or ND), only CC-BY. ABS data, QLD boundaries and ACT POIs are Creative Commons - Attribution 2.5 Australia (CC-BY). You can commercialise and not share the data if

Re: [talk-au] Database licence

2009-12-05 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: There has been a great number of mails on osmf-talk about an upcoming vote on the database licence. But no notice on the site or wiki. I suppose it isn't official discussion. Sadly, I'd like to say that I will not be supporting the

Re: [talk-au] Database licence

2009-12-05 Thread 80n
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: There has been a great number of mails on osmf-talk about an upcoming vote on the database licence. But no notice on the site or wiki. I suppose it

Re: [talk-au] Database licence

2009-12-05 Thread James Livingston
On 05/12/2009, at 10:29 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: Certainly we should make this case clear to the OSM community. Database protection always seemed to be a euro-centric ideal and not one that the new licence analysis seemed to respond to adequately. However, I believe that the ODbL

Re: [talk-au] Database licence

2009-12-05 Thread Grant Slater
2009/12/5 80n 80n...@gmail.com: The OSM Foundation can't force anyone to relicense their existing data For clarity... the OSM Foundation is not some evil group... The OSMF is open, anyone from the community can join. The OSMF Board is democratically elected from the OSMF membership. OSMF Board:

Re: [talk-au] Database licence

2009-12-05 Thread Grant Slater
2009/12/5 Liz ed...@billiau.net: Sadly, I'd like to say that I will not be supporting the proposed new licence. It is designed around European law, and gives database protection which is not a legal concept which is likely to apply here, after the recent High Court case Nine vs IceTv, when the

Re: [talk-au] Database licence

2009-12-05 Thread James Livingston
On 05/12/2009, at 11:30 PM, Grant Slater wrote: For clarity... the OSM Foundation is not some evil group... The OSMF is open, anyone from the community can join. The OSMF Board is democratically elected from the OSMF membership. If anyone who isn't a OSMF member wants to read the discussion,

Re: [talk-au] Database licence

2009-12-05 Thread John Smith
2009/12/5 Liz ed...@billiau.net: Only those who belonged to OSMF in Oct 09 will get a vote. Those who are 'merely' contributors will only get to be asked if they will relicense their data or not. Only data from people who agree to relicensing will go forward into the new licence. I wonder if

Re: [talk-au] Database licence

2009-12-05 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote: 2009/12/5 Liz ed...@billiau.net: Only those who belonged to OSMF in Oct 09 will get a vote. Those who are 'merely' contributors will only get to be asked if they will relicense their data or not. Only data from people who agree to relicensing will go