Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: move the coral sea islandsĀ  ;-) Actually there was no state place tag for Queensland, I've added one since, and the tiles will update sooner or later. I also moved the ACT tag, it was going over the top of Canberra, also Canberra was being

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
I updated the rendering to show all villages, towns and cities and now the map is a lot more cluttered to the point of too much clutter, I think I'll make villages render at a higher zoom, not sure about towns. ___ Talk-au mailing list

[talk-au] location tagging

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
Up until recently, that is today, I was tagging regional centres as place=city, however it might be worth while tagging this as place=regional_centre, or tagging them correctly and adding regional_centre=yes However I haven't figured out the zoom levels and how it relates to metres per pixel

Re: [talk-au] location tagging

2009-08-02 Thread Liz
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: Up until recently, that is today, I was tagging regional centres as place=city, however it might be worth while tagging this as place=regional_centre, or tagging them correctly and adding regional_centre=yes Wilkipedia has a list of australian cities, as

Re: [talk-au] location tagging

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Wilkipedia has a list of australian cities, as determined by the administrative bodies. So if the State determined list of cities says it is a city, then it is. Even though we just don't have a million people in each. That doesn't help with

Re: [talk-au] Draft: Looking for a mapstyle quote

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
Forgot to mention can I get URLs of what people expect a map to look like, I don't want to get into the whole copyright infringment thing, but links to other people that have won't be our problem. eg http://www.bilbys.org/session/maps/ubd_sat_ride.jpg While something like that would be nice,

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
I just tweaked things to show traffic lights at zoom levels 15-18, are there any other tags not being rendered that people would want to see on a map? eg speed camera? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-02 Thread b . schulz . 10
Are amenity=bench and amenity=bbq being rendered? I don't think there are many of these around but if they're rendered hopefully people will bother to tag them. - Original Message - From: John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009 6:33 pm Subject: Re: [talk-au]

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-02 Thread b . schulz . 10
Oh, and is it easy to increase the font size on the suburb (locality?) names? I think they appear at z10 but they're *way* too small to read. Rendering the town names at lower zoom levels looks really good by the way. - Original Message - From: John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com Date:

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-02 Thread Ashley Kyd
Hey, amenity=bbq would be an useful one. railway=platform would be a nice one as well. If you can come up with a style (I'd suggest one that renders exactly the same way as highway=footway;area=yes,) you can probably even submit it for inclusion in the main OSM render. :) If you're interested,

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-02 Thread James Livingston
On 02/08/2009, at 8:20 PM, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: amenity=bbq being rendered? Does anyone know if how to tag those has been discusses before? Australia seems to contain about an equal number of amenity=bbq and amenity=barbeque, with a handful of amenity=barbecue thrown in. There are

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: Are amenity=bench and amenity=bbq being rendered? I don't think there are many of these around but if they're rendered hopefully people will bother to tag them. Any graphic suggestions?

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-02 Thread Ashley Kyd
David Dean, Hughbris, and I had a discussion on IRC recently, and decided that amenity=bbq is the best. It's the easiest to spell, and least ambiguous because both barbecue and barbeque are acceptable spellings depending on locality. Additionally, David proposed that the additional tag

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: Oh, and is it easy to increase the font size on the suburb (locality?) names? I think they appear at z10 but they're *way* too small to read. Rendering the town names at lower zoom levels looks really good by the

[talk-au] Zoom levels

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
I finally figured out what the zoom levels equate to in metres per pixel, although it's probably 100ths or 1000ths of metres per pixel judging by z18. z0 = 313774583-627549167 z1 = 156887291-313774583 z2 = 78443645-156887291 z3 = 39221822-78443645 z4 = 19610911-39221822 z5 = 9805455-19610911 z6

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, cam_...@fastmail.fm cam_...@fastmail.fm wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.075996lon=150.803651zoom=18layers=B000FTFT Same thing with BBQ's showing. http://maps.bigtincan.com/?zoom=18lat=-34.07608lon=150.8037layers=B Just need an icon for benches. Also

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-02 Thread Darrin Smith
John Smith wrote: --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Darrin Smith bel...@beldin.org wrote: Why remove suburb boundaries? Because they aren't suburb boundaries, they're ABS boundaries. In 95% of cases they're close enough, are you going to throw out the baby with the bath water and dispose of the

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Darrin Smith bel...@beldin.org wrote: In 95% of cases they're close enough, are you going to throw out the baby with the bath water and dispose of the cases where people have adjusted them to be correct? Even in the places where they aren't they're the closest we're

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-02 Thread Darrin Smith
John Smith wrote: I'm not saying they're inaccurate, I'm saying they create noise in some areas rather than showing useful information. Completely a matter of opinion, and again the same thing could be said about innumerable bits of data that don't fit into your perception of what needs to

[talk-au] newbie Potlatch question

2009-08-02 Thread John Henderson
I've been reading this list for a while, and hope it's the right place to ask newbie questions. As a beginner, I've been mapping local roads, cycle paths, footpaths and things with Potlatch without any real problems. Usually, I've been uploading gpx files from a Garmin 76 CSx. But I can't

Re: [talk-au] newbie Potlatch question

2009-08-02 Thread Jeff Price
Hey John, Welcome aboard, I tend to use josm but could suggest this for PotLatch, Use the 'L' key to have PotLatch show the lat/long of the mouse position. Export/import your waypoints into OSM like you do the track logs, then use the 'L' key to cross match the PotLatch gpx dots to your

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-02 Thread Darrin Smith
John Smith wrote: --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Darrin Smith bel...@beldin.org wrote: Completely a matter of opinion, and again the same thing could be said about innumerable bits of data that don't fit into your perception of what needs to be on the map. The same argument could be made for UK

[talk-au] Bush walking tracks

2009-08-02 Thread Roy Wallace
The Australian Tagging Guidelines currently say that for bush walking tracks: Tag these highway=footway. and for track sections along fire trails, highway=track is appropriate. Shouldn't these be highway=path; foot=yes, rather than highway=footway? The wiki page of the former says It is also used

Re: [talk-au] Bush walking tracks

2009-08-02 Thread Ian Sergeant
Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote on 03/08/2009 03:06:38 PM: Calling a bush walking track a designated footpath doesn't sound exactly right, nor does calling a bushwalker a pedestrian. Thoughts? We should focus on the properties of the track, rather than its use. Plenty of people use