[talk-au] Local Chapter

There was mention late last year of setting up a local Chapter https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2018-December/012227.html, but haven't heard anything further since? Just been doing some random browsing & found this

Re: [talk-au] Editing speed limit in Australia

Hi Lacri On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 21:56, Lacramioara Maghiar - (p) < lacramioara.magh...@telenav.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > > > I’m writing you regarding the speed limit mapping in Australia. > > Specifically, how would you add the speed limit on a motorway link where > the speed limit sign appears

Re: [talk-au] MapRoulette Challenges

& then when you add parking & bus lanes into the mix, I'm totally confused! :-) I understand (I think) that we mark parking lanes but they're not counted, but bike & bus lanes are? So if we look at https://www.google.com/maps/@-28.0444106,153.4348424,44m/data=!3m1!1e3 then south is parking;

Re: [talk-au] Accessing landcover/trees

It would appear that it's only mapped as part of a relation, just marked "wood"? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/403006675/history I'm sure that somebody will be along shortly to comment further! Thanks Graeme On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 12:36, Andrew Miskelly wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm

Re: [talk-au] Bus stop info

Thanks fellas! On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 at 18:35, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I would alter the name somewhat. I'd do that like an address like so; > Annette Kellerman Park, Gold Coast Hwy > Good thought - I copied the other version off the TransLink site, so that's the official name,

[talk-au] Bus stop info

Have recently been tagging a number of bus stops, & suddenly had a thought of Am I doing it right? Here's one of them https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6273637341 Is that all OK, or should it be done differently in some way? Thanks Graeme ___

Re: [talk-au] Turn lanes review

So what is considered "best practice" when it comes to lanes - physical or theoretical markings? Situation: you have a two-lane, one-way, primary road with an exit coming up. Your road is marked as highway=primary, one_way=yes, lanes=2 Should you map in an actual, physical lane splitting off to

Re: [talk-au] Residential road tagging

Bit of a hard one? I've seen one of those streets in this area that each side of the "service road" part is signed "Local traffic only - no through road" In OSM terms, that then could stay as =residential, but with access=destination (or =no?). Without local knowledge of the actual street, &

Re: [talk-au] Question on how to fix this intersection

Yep, bring the split back to where the central island starts alongside the first westbound "turn right" arrow. I'd also suggest aligning the actual road marking with the centre of the road before it splits, then the centre of each side after the split, as that can apparently also help with

Re: [talk-au] more SEO spam?

On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 at 06:51, Martijn van Exel wrote: > You can point businesses to https://www.onosm.org/ which gives businesses > an easy way to add themselves. It generates a note on OSM, that mappers can > then turn into an actual node or whatever OSM type is relevant to add the >

[talk-au] Blank map in remote country areas

A while back, there was mention on the list of OSM only showing vast amounts of blank whiteness when looking at remote country areas; & then there was further mention regarding Aussie country roads not showing up well enough in OSM. A lady I speak to on another forum, lives in a small town in

Re: [talk-au] Access tagging for dogs

On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 at 19:50, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 13/01/19 20:31, Philip Mallis wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I am looking at a few areas in parks across Melbourne where dogs are > prohibited (e.g. through this gate to Kew Billabong: >

[talk-au] Fwd: Editing road geometry Australia

Resend to include list :-( Thanks Graeme -- Forwarded message - From: Graeme Fitzpatrick Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 17:12 Subject: Re: [talk-au] Editing road geometry Australia To: Petra Rajka - (p) On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 16:19, Petra Rajka - (p) wrote: > Hi every

Re: [talk-au] Use of AIS message as input to OSM

On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 16:17, Arthur Geeson wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to use the position data received from Automatic > Identification System (AIS) messages that are used for navigational aids > for marine ships to plot the position of these piles on the OSM but I am > not sure if this would

Re: [talk-au] Drink bottle refund centres

Follow up question on this We now have Drop Off points, where you take a bag of cans in, attach a tag & leave them. They get counted & refund credited to your bank account Over the Counter depots will actually count your cans while you wait, then give you cash in hand RVM (Reverse Vending

[talk-au] Drink bottle refund centres

G'day all Qld has just introduced the refund scheme for drink cans & bottles, which most of Oz has had in for many years :-( How do you mark the centres that you can return your empties to? I guess amenity=recycling, with recycling:glass bottles=yes & recycling:cans=yes added? Bit messy, but I

[talk-au] Replies to list messages not going to the list?

Morning all Sorry for the very convoluted title, & apologies if this has been discussed previously? Noticed this comment on a list message yesterday "Note: This came through as a private message - not on the list.", which is something I've noticed, & done, a number of times. I'm on both the Au

Re: [talk-au] OSMF Local Chapter discussions

Thanks for sharing Andrew. Sounds good to me! Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Question Regarding multiple alt_names

Here you go Andrew https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-27.9389/153.3974 The main road shown here is the Gold Coast Hwy & has major signs saying so (& once upon a time was Highway 1!). The East-West section is Brisbane Rd (with street level signs saying so & addresses as xx Brisbane Rd).

Re: [talk-au] TMR Road Centerlines dataset

On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 11:29, Joel H. wrote: > > I'm noticing that the dashes seem to be missing on a lot of country > roads, I feel like we should trust OSM more but... > > In OSM we have: Esk Hampton Road > > In QSC we have: Esk - Hampton Road > > Esk and Hampton are town names so a dash makes

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

Hi Joel Happy to help with Gold Coast area if there's anything I can do. I only use iD though, not JOSM, so don't know if that's a problem? Thanks Graeme On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 at 21:13, Joel H. wrote: > I've put my self down for integration in QLD. >

Re: [talk-au] Public Barbeques in the ACT

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 at 16:19, Riley Baird wrote: > At present, the data is released under CC BY 4.0 international, so it > appears that I would have to send a message requesting permission to > use it in a way compatible with the OSM licence. G'day Riley & welcome I'm sure Andrew & others

[talk-au] Use of map data with no copyright?

Hi On holidays last week & went into the local tourist info centre. Picked up a map showing various food & accommodation attractions in the area, together with a fairly detailed map of the region. I've gone over the entire sheet of paper & there is not one mention of "copyright" anywhere on it!

Re: [talk-au] Sidewalk vs Footpath?

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 20:59, Andrew Harvey wrote: > Personally I refer to the path next to the road designed for > pedestrians as the footpath, assuming sidewalk is an american term not > really used in Australian English. > I agree entirely! > At the moment iD has two presets "Foot path"

Re: [talk-au] Australia maritime boundaries - Geoscience Australia

Would this import effect the way the existing "coastline" is shown in OSM? >From the GA definitions earlier: - "The Normal baseline corresponds with the low water line along the coast, including the coasts of islands. Under the Convention, normal baseline can be drawn around low tide

Re: [talk-au] Using data from traditional owners of the land / Current waiver form

On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 at 20:38, Ewen Hill wrote: > > It's an interesting conundrum that perhaps going forward we need to flag > how > we deal with sacred areas and knowledge that should be respected by not > being mapped. > But the Trail itself is open for anybody to walk along, isn't it? So

Re: [talk-au] City of Gold Coast / repeat requests of CC BY waivers

On 14 August 2018 at 18:53, Simon Poole wrote: > Yes, I've received some follow up questions that I'm in the process of > answering now. > Thanks Simon! Do you (LWG) get many such requests for further info? Is it something that could / should be amended in the basic "We are OSM, could we

Re: [talk-au] City of Gold Coast / repeat requests of CC BY waivers

On 13 August 2018 at 17:44, Simon Poole wrote: > Could naturally be, they didn't give me details, so it is a bit difficult > to find out what has gone wrong (if anything). I can follow up with them, > maybe something simply got lost in the mail. > > Thanks Simon, that would be good if you can

Re: [talk-au] City of Gold Coast / repeat requests of CC BY waivers

Hi Simon I may be the guilty party, but I'm not sure? Did contact GCCC earlier this year for permission to use data, which they gave. However, I'd forgotten to ask them for the waiver, so went back to them a couple of days later to ask for that. Lady I spoke to thought it would be OK, but had

Re: [talk-au] Shared Zones

The only shared zones that I can think of off the top of the head (although I know there are more) are out the front of Bunnings & all the internal roads at Griffith Uni, neither of which really strike me as a "living street"? Not too sure what else you'd call them though? > > > > Disagree ..

Re: [talk-au] FOSS4G SotM Oceania

On 27 June 2018 at 19:53, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > If you have something you'd like to talk about related to OSM and are able > to make it to the conference, please consider putting a submission in. > G'day Andrew I thought that would have been *you* talking about getting open access to all

Re: [talk-au] State names

On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 at 18:42, Michael Collinson wrote: > Randomly looking at Queensland as place=state, I see that ref=QLD is > already set as well as short_name, so there is a link that can be used in > computational processing. > Thanks for that confirmation Mike - QLD works for me! > And

[talk-au] State names

G'day The latest (?) upgrade to iD reformatted the address fields to suit Oz addresses & also introduced a State field to be entered. Question & policy decision needed here please :-) Queensland / Qld / QLD? How should we be entering our State names? Thanks Graeme

Re: [talk-au] I made my own administrative boarder for the City of Ipswich

G'day Joel Just had a look & Ipswich City Council do have an online map http://maps.ipswich.qld.gov.au/connect/analyst/?mapcfg=Boundaries, based, strangely enough, on something called OpenStreetMap! :-), & apparently using CC-BY-2.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/ Maybe contact

Re: [talk-au] Am I doing intersections right?

Would it depend on the router & how it gives the name? (Voice nav is turned off on mine, so I don't know!) Will it tell you, "Turn left into Whatever St" or will it be "Turn left towards Whichever suburb" Thanks Graeme On 28 April 2018 at 12:20, Joel H. wrote: > I

Re: [talk-au] Surveillance camera?

Thanks Andrew I'll modify what I did earlier - quite a few options to choose from under cameras! Graeme On 26 March 2018 at 16:58, Andrew Harvey wrote: > agreed, man_made=surveillance needn't be for security, traffic cams, surf > cams are all covered. > > The wiki

Re: [talk-au] Surveillance camera?

Would be handy if I included the link :-( https://www.coastalwatch.com/surf-cams-surf-reports/qld/tallebudgera Thanks Graeme On 25 March 2018 at 15:15, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all > > Question re mounted cameras? > > Are CoastWatch cameras =

[talk-au] Surveillance camera?

Hi all Question re mounted cameras? Are CoastWatch cameras = surveillance cameras? They're primarily intended to monitor conditions at surfing beaches, rather than people, but would they be mapped the same? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] I have written a response to DNRM, please give feedback

n, at least, your dark > green is very similar to black) > > I've changed it to a background colour, I think it makes it easier to scan > the list and identify the status easier. > > > On 13 March 2018 at 08:30, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> > wrote: >

Re: [talk-au] I have written a response to DNRM, please give feedback

On 13 March 2018 at 19:47, Simon Poole wrote: > > * a small note on the side, when discussing ODbL and CC BY 4.0 > compatibility with Creative Commons, representatives of the organisation > voiced the opinion that most of the rewrite was just clarification of > terms that the

Re: [talk-au] RSL clubs?

Ooops, sorry - should have made reference to the Club I've been working on: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/-28.13738/153.47422 or https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/553386756 On 22 January 2018 at 16:20, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> wrote: > G'day all > > Ho

[talk-au] RSL clubs?

G'day all How does everyone map RSL Clubs? I saw the note in the Australian tagging guidelines that suggested use amenity=licensed_club, but that doesn't render in any way (I know we're not supposed to be worrying about whether or not something renders, but it would be nice) Of the RSL's in my

[talk-au] Fwd: Deserts, mapping and sources

From: Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> Date: 17 January 2018 at 16:10 Subject: Re: [talk-au] Deserts, mapping and sources To: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> >>> Deserts are a climatic concept: >> > A wetland too has a fuzzy boundary, much like a desert.

Re: [talk-au] Ficticious edits near Victor Harbour

Or maybe Microsoft is opening up a new HQ in SA? :-) I'll be generous & suggest that they're possibly innocently doing something for a kid's birthday party & don't realise they're actually effecting the main map? But I'd also agree with reverting the changes & blocking them till we get an

Re: [talk-au] BYO drinks at restaurant

On 3 November 2017 at 09:58, Nick Hocking wrote: > > Bing maps (and Bing search) does not know of this string. Maybe it's > proprietary Google information. > I was wondering the same thing, because a Google search on that string of data returns a location shown on

Re: [talk-au] BYO drinks at restaurant

Thanks everyone for input - have gone with drinks:alcohol = BYO. Now just a matter of seeing how it appears when the maps for my phone (OSMAND+) update next. It's apparent though, when looking at restaurants, that very few details have been entered against them - frequently only "Restaurant" &

[talk-au] BYO drinks at restaurant

G'day all Just adding a Pizza & Pasta restaurant that is BYO drinks. Can't see any option Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Qld topo map usable?

ree and sign for CC BY 4.0 data to be used in OSM. > > Some Australian agencies have agreed to this, and others have explicitly > not agreed to this, so it's hit and miss based on the agency. > > On 1 Oct. 2017 4:29 pm, "Graeme Fitzpatrick" <graemefi...@gmail.com&

Re: [talk-au] The place Biniguy

On 9 October 2017 at 16:04, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > One problem is that 'locality' does not translate well. > I'd think that any admin area would have someone resident in the area. > So tagging them OSM 'locality' may not be the best? > > OSM says 'hamlet ' is less then 100-200

[talk-au] Qld topo map usable?

G'day all I've just come across an online Qld topo map, published by Dept of Natural Resources. Map is at http://qtopo.dnrm.qld.gov.au/Mobile/ Also makes reference to copyright being licensed under CC BY 4.0: https://www.dnrm.qld.gov.au/legal/copyright, & includes "Under this licence you are

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

Hi Query re a bit of a different slant to rest areas. Was looking at the map t'other day & noticed a Rest Area marked off the side of the Motorway, in what I thought was a rather strange spot? http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-27.60146/152.87914 When I had a look via Google, there is in

Re: [talk-au] nodes of a business placed on a road

The bit that worries me about these 3 listings is that the addresses that can be found by searching, don't match up with the locations shown Thanks Graeme On 27 May 2017 at 11:08, wrote: > Hi > > I have deleted these in the past, eg https://www.openstreetmap.org/ >

[talk-au] Mobile phone towers

Hi Just putting a nearby newish mobile tower on the map. Due we worry about naming who's tower it is? Couldn't see anything in the wiki about it. Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

I don't really think we'd have to differentiate between motorhomes & campervans, because really, they are the same concept, just different sizes, but crrying on from that, & just to throw another level of complication in :-), where do camper trailers come into things. For clarification for those

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

& again... Lists of rest areas Oz wide: http://www.thegreynomads.com.au/planning/where-to-camp/rest-areas/ Thanks Graeme On 19 April 2017 at 13:19, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > > In Qld at least, overnight camping is not permitted in

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

Hi In Qld at least, overnight camping is not permitted in a lot of rest areas as they are intended for heavy vehicles, & where private vehicles are allowed to stop overnight, the maximum stay is 20 hours, so there's no one size fit's all answer. They do provide details of where all the rest

[talk-au] Changing speed limits

G'day all What's the best way of changing incorrect speed limits where they're currently listed? https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=16/-28.0914/153.4521 Southbound GC Hwy is shown as 50kph from Goodwin Tce almost as far as George St, but it actually changes to 60 outside the

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

Thanks everyone for your input here - it's all getting very hard :-( Simon, thanks for the info re the "official" position. That page mentions "a similar document for obtaining the necessary waivers for the 2.0 and 3.0 versions of CC BY

[talk-au] Fwd: Use of City of Gold Coast data for OpenStreetMap project

aeme -- Forwarded message -- From: Open Data <opend...@goldcoast.qld.gov.au> Date: 16 March 2017 at 15:18 Subject: RE: Use of City of Gold Coast data for OpenStreetMap project To: Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com>, Open Data < opend...@goldcoast.qld.gov.au> H

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

way back at the licence change under the subject "ODbL > data.gov.au permission granted": > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2011-Septe > mber/thread.html > > through to about Dec 2011. > > > > On 15/3/17 23:13, Andrew Harvey wrote: >

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

self would purely be doing manual checking Thanks Graeme On 15 March 2017 at 22:13, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, at 05:38 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > G'day all > > > > A while back, mentioned about using Gold Coast City Coun

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

late it into OSM for me? :-) Also tried to send an e-mail to their listed address & it's spat back as undeliverable to a different GCCC address? Thanks Graeme On 11 August 2016 at 13:38, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks everyone for your thoughts! >

Re: [talk-au] Hume and Hovel Walking Track in the Bargo SF

"I mapped the area around Burrinjuck Dam during the last big drought. So I've got the track going well out into where the water is now, and to where walkers got on and off the boat at that time. Looks odd on the hiking map with the dam showing as full, especially at the southern end, on the

Re: [talk-au] Another tool for finding Poke-paths

ned for fictitious > objects to attract Pokemon things .. Please state your source for the > paths you have added." > > > > On 06-Feb-17 09:45 AM, Andrew Harvey wrote: > >> On 3 February 2017 at 10:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >&g

Re: [talk-au] Another tool for finding Poke-paths

Hi The ones I looked at were http://osmcha.mapbox.com/45454430/ (the zig-zag made me wonder?) & http://osmcha.mapbox.com/45454374/ (a nice straight rectangular path?). Thanks Graeme On 2 February 2017 at 21:56, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2 Feb 2017 6:0

Re: [talk-au] Another tool for finding Poke-paths

G'day all Had a look at a few of the spots reported there. 2 of them are footpaths (in 1 case, a very funny shaped path!) in parks. Looking on Google Maps, there are no paths showing in either of those parks - are we able to use Google to confirm that something *doesn't* exist, & so remove it?

Re: [talk-au] How to tag swimming pontoons

be a pontoon either, because you can't really climb up on it. Any thoughts? Graeme Thanks Graeme _ Graeme Fitzpatrick 0407 754321 On 27 January 2017 at 06:23, Max Bainrot <mbain...@gmail.com> wrote: > The swimming raft describes it exactly > > m

Re: [talk-au] How to tag swimming pontoons

Would you then mark the inside of the pontoon as a swimming pool? Could you mark a swimming pool in the middle of a lake? On 25 January 2017 at 21:05, Andrew Harvey wrote: > I would tag the ladder as a node per > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ladder. > >

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

Hi all I would agree with Warin's latest suggested definition: "The boundary of an authority that is responsible for local government functions within that boundary." If there's "something" there, we should be showing it! Further to Cleary's

[talk-au] Mapping Military bases

G'day all Question that may have been raised before (BTW, is there any way of searching the list archives, apart from looking at every thread in each month?). Do we have an Aussie policy regarding mapping of military bases? Was having fun yesterday putting in details for various small airfields

[talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

Thanks everyone for your thoughts! I'll have a look at the data.gov.au info when I have a chance (& can figure out how to open a KMZ file! :-() Will also get in touch with GCCC re authorisation. Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list

[talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

G'day all Been mapping on & off for a few years now but have recently got into it more actively due to having more time available. Mainly working around the Gold Coast / SEQ but occasionally further afield as well. Have only just found the talk list & forum, & have read quite a few threads re

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