Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

[Gareth L]

I’d maybe see the benefit for this data in more accurate/consistent 
landuse=residential areas? The whole “do you include the road, or create the 
area up to the road” decision.
Gareth


On 10 Jan 2019, at 00:19, Warin 
<61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:


Even if it were open .. does OSM want it?

I don't see any specific tags for it?

And you do want to have them accurate and up to date.

---

Example of inaccurate property extent problems .. from Australia - 
https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/news/coroner-hits-out-at-police-use-of-google-maps-printouts-in-search-for-missing-man/news-story/0d005d8018e694433313ab2b941c7df4

A recent coroner hit out at the decision to rely on Google Maps printouts in 
the manhunt — noting that Queensland Police Service (QPS) had better tools 
available to them to search the area.

In fact, the inquest detailed how officers on the case were later given a much 
more informative aerial map of the area from the local council, at no cost to 
police whatsoever.

“It is quite apparent the quality of the images of the property on this map is 
far superior to the Google map images used in the search of the property and 
one wonders if the same mistake in conducting a search of only half the 
property would have been made if this map had been obtained,” Deputy State 
Coroner John Lock said in his report.

---

There are lots of potential problems from mapping private property extents. 
Don't think I would want to go there.

On 09/01/19 23:40, Andy Robinson wrote:
Tom, Jerry, Chris thanks for the very helpful prompts.

Cheers
Andy

From: Chris Hill [mailto:o...@raggedred.net]
Sent: 09 January 2019 12:37
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents


Here's one of Jerry's blog posts about the not-so-open Land Registry data:

https://sk53-osm.blogspot.com/2013/10/not-very-inspired-land-registry-open.html

and my post about testing using them:

https://chris-osm.blogspot.com/2013/10/land-registry-inspire-polygons.html

As Tom says, these datasets are not Open Data and we cannot use them as a data 
source in OSM. I feel that the Open Government Licence should not be used in 
this case as it isn't  Open.


On 09/01/2019 11:47, SK53 wrote:
Hi Andy,

Both Chris Hill & I blogged about them at the time, but they NEVER had any 
semblance of being open data.

The same proved to be true of the Land Registry Prices Paid which now can only 
be used if you are an estate agent.

Owen has covered both on his Map Gubbins blog.

Have to dash, so no time to find the links.

Jerry

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 11:07, Andy Robinson 
mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
As a follow-up, has anyone looked at the OGL licenced INSPIRE Land Registry 
index polygons?
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/download-inspire-index-polygons

Data is in GML format.

Cheers
Andy

-Original Message-
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Sent: 09 January 2019 10:56
To: 'David Woolley'; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Property extents

On Wed 09/01/2019 10:35 David Woolley wrote:
>Actually, that seems more valuable to OSM than the building
>outlines as it is much more difficult to accurately recover from
>aerial imagery and ground surveys can normally only see front yards.

Agreed, though I wonder whether this will have any correlation with Land 
Registry. I'm guessing .gov isn’t that joined up.

Cheers
Andy




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Re: [Talk-br] Parceria OSM e ANA

[santamariense]

> Podemos pensar em uma proposta de os colaboradores da plataforma nos 
> auxiliarem na identificação da toponímia dos cursos d’água e massas d’água de 
> nossas bases da ANA

Interessante que boa parte dos cursos d'água tem diferentes nomes a
depender da fonte (órgão governamental), e se for a campo conferir,
principalmente nas zonas rurais, os moradores nem sabem que tem nome,
chamando apenas de "sanga", "rio", -- Não é por acaso que até órgãos
governamentais tem dificuldade para identificá-los e muitas vezes
identificam determinado curso d'água com nome diferente do
identificado por outro órgão, ou mesmo com traçado diferente,
principalmente em ponto próximos a nascentes onde tem vários braços e
não se sabe qual deles leva o nome.

Tem alguma ideia de como poderia desenhar essa possível parceria?

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Re: [Talk-us] Three upcoming imports in Wake County, NC

[mangokm40]

Let me know if you need grunt work like Miami-Dade.  I'll be happy to help.

(_8'()

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 9:35 PM, Leif Rasmussen <354...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> Joe Caruso and I have been planning three imports in Raleigh, North Carolina 
> from open data sources, and would like to start them some time soon.
>
> ==
> Import #1: Wake County missing buildings import
> Ten years ago, James Umbanhowar imported all large buildings (not including 
> many small sheds and similar) in Raleigh, NC.  Many new developments have 
> been built since, and there are currently 35,000 buildings not in OSM.  Using 
> the JOSM validator (which finds and lets you select overlapping buildings), I 
> have created a file with only missing buildings.
>
> Number of buildings: 35,000
> Link to data:  
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gUTFROeaNRvmKam3yNmF9UaJFBEcXBal
> Wiki page: 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wake_County_North_Carolina_Building_Import
> License for data: Public Domain
>
> ==
>
> Import #2: Triangle area bus stop import (Will only start AFTER the first 
> import is complete).
> This import will be very manual, to ensure high data quality and clean 
> conflation.  The data source will likely be 
> https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=23f8b6160e5444bf90db8049cac155da, 
> but only if we can verify the license.  Otherwise, we will use data from 
> Durham Open Data, which is licensed under the ODbL.
>
> Number of points: ~2000
> Link to transformed data: 
> https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=23f8b6160e5444bf90db8049cac155da
> Wiki page: https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Research_Triangle_NC_Transit_Import
> License for data: Custom or ODbL, depending on how open "Custom" is.
>
> ==
>
> Import #3: Wake County address import (Will only start AFTER the first two 
> imports are complete).
> This import will add every missing address in Wake County, and will be done 
> with a tasking manager project and manual merging of data with existing 
> buildings & POIs.  Only one address point will be imported for each address, 
> meaning that no imported addresses will contain the tag "addr:unit".  The 
> import will have a very similar workflow to the Durham County address import.
>
> Number of points: 443,381
> Link to data source: 
> https://data-ral.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/Wake::address-points
> Wiki page: https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Wake_County_North_Carolina_Address_Import
> License for data: Public Domain
>
> ==
>
> These imports will not happen all at once, but rather be worked on one at a 
> time.  This way, fewer mistakes will be made.
> Please let me know if everything is not perfect.
> Thanks,
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[Talk-us] Three upcoming imports in Wake County, NC

[Leif Rasmussen]

Hi everyone,
Joe Caruso and I have been planning three imports in Raleigh, North
Carolina from open data sources, and would like to start them some
time soon.

==

Import #1: Wake County missing buildings import
Ten years ago, James Umbanhowar imported all large buildings (not including
many small sheds and similar) in Raleigh, NC.  Many new developments have
been built since, and there are currently 35,000 buildings not in OSM.
Using the JOSM validator (which finds and lets you select overlapping
buildings), I have created a file with only missing buildings.

Number of buildings: 35,000
Link to data:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gUTFROeaNRvmKam3yNmF9UaJFBEcXBal
Wiki page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wake_County_North_Carolina_Building_Import
License for data: Public Domain

==

Import #2: Triangle area bus stop import (Will only start AFTER the first
import is complete).
This import will be very manual, to ensure high data quality and clean
conflation.  The data source will likely be
https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=23f8b6160e5444bf90db8049cac155da,
but only if we can verify the license.  Otherwise, we will use data from
Durham Open Data, which is licensed under the ODbL.

Number of points: ~2000
Link to transformed data:
https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=23f8b6160e5444bf90db8049cac155da
Wiki page: https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Research_Triangle_NC_Transit_Import
License for data: Custom or ODbL, depending on how open "Custom" is.

==

Import #3: Wake County address import (Will only start AFTER the first two
imports are complete).
This import will add every missing address in Wake County, and will be done
with a tasking manager project and manual merging of data with existing
buildings & POIs.  Only one address point will be imported for each
address, meaning that no imported addresses will contain the tag
"addr:unit".  The import will have a very similar workflow to the Durham
County address import.

Number of points: 443,381
Link to data source:
https://data-ral.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/Wake::address-points
Wiki page:
https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Wake_County_North_Carolina_Address_Import
License for data: Public Domain

==

These imports will not happen all at once, but rather be worked on one at a
time.  This way, fewer mistakes will be made.
Please let me know if everything is not perfect.
Thanks,
Leif Rasmussen
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[Talk-us] Fwd: Albuquerque, NM Building Import Proposal - For Review

[Russ Biggs]

OSM Import and OSM USA Community:

The mapping community in Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA is working on an
Albuquerque Building Import plan and we would like your input and buyin.

Please review our Wiki page, which includes our input plans, process, and
QA plans, here:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Albuquerque_Building_Import

If you have any questions, please contact us at mapabq...@gmail.com. We
look forward to hearing from you.

Thank you for your time and imput.

Happy mapping,

MapABQ Team
mapabq.org
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Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

[Warin]

Even if it were open .. does OSM want it?

I don't see any specific tags for it?

And you do want to have them accurate and up to date.

---

Example of inaccurate property extent problems .. from Australia - 
https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/news/coroner-hits-out-at-police-use-of-google-maps-printouts-in-search-for-missing-man/news-story/0d005d8018e694433313ab2b941c7df4


A recent coroner hit out at the decision to rely on Google Maps 
printouts in the manhunt — noting that Queensland Police Service (QPS) 
had better tools available to them to search the area.


In fact, the inquest detailed how officers on the case were later given 
a much more informative aerial map of the area from the local council, 
at no cost to police whatsoever.


“It is quite apparent the quality of the images of the property on this 
map is far superior to the Google map images used in the search of the 
property and one wonders if the same mistake in conducting a search of 
only half the property would have been made if this map had been 
obtained,” Deputy State Coroner John Lock said in his report.


---

There are lots of potential problems from mapping private property 
extents. Don't think I would want to go there.



On 09/01/19 23:40, Andy Robinson wrote:


Tom, Jerry, Chris thanks for the very helpful prompts.

Cheers

Andy

*From:*Chris Hill [mailto:o...@raggedred.net]
*Sent:* 09 January 2019 12:37
*To:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
*Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

Here's one of Jerry's blog posts about the not-so-open Land Registry data:

https://sk53-osm.blogspot.com/2013/10/not-very-inspired-land-registry-open.html

and my post about testing using them:

https://chris-osm.blogspot.com/2013/10/land-registry-inspire-polygons.html

As Tom says, these datasets are not Open Data and we cannot use them 
as a data source in OSM. I feel that the Open Government Licence 
should not be used in this case as it isn't  Open.


On 09/01/2019 11:47, SK53 wrote:

Hi Andy,

Both Chris Hill & I blogged about them at the time, but they NEVER
had any semblance of being open data.

The same proved to be true of the Land Registry Prices Paid which
now can only be used if you are an estate agent.

Owen has covered both on his Map Gubbins blog.

Have to dash, so no time to find the links.

Jerry

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 11:07, Andy Robinson mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com>> wrote:

As a follow-up, has anyone looked at the OGL licenced INSPIRE
Land Registry index polygons?

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/download-inspire-index-polygons

Data is in GML format.

Cheers
Andy

-Original Message-
From: Andy Robinson [mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com
]
Sent: 09 January 2019 10:56
To: 'David Woolley'; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org

Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Property extents

On Wed 09/01/2019 10:35 David Woolley wrote:
>Actually, that seems more valuable to OSM than the building
>outlines as it is much more difficult to accurately recover from
>aerial imagery and ground surveys can normally only see front
yards.

Agreed, though I wonder whether this will have any correlation
with Land Registry. I'm guessing .gov isn’t that joined up.

Cheers
Andy





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Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Mobility Stockport

[Warin]

On 10/01/19 07:17, Andy Townsend wrote:

On 09/01/2019 18:11, Jez Nicholson wrote:

Seeking your input...

One thing that struck me when I had to start planning for getting from 
A to B with someone on a mobility scooter or in a wheelchair was that 
the "obvious" things (kerbs etc.) weren't the biggest issue - it was 
things like the exact location of the shopmobility office (which level 
of the car park and exactly where on that level?) and gates that 
weren't mobility-scooter accessible not because they weren't wide 
enough but because the angle you'd have to turn through was impossible 
(I've still no idea how to map that).


Umm I'd try 'wheelchair=no' on the way. Presumably a wheel chair would 
have similar difficulty there.


I'd actually start by asking potential users in Stockport "so what do 
you want to see on a map?".  I bet a whole pile of requests will come 
in that aren't covered by any OSM map.


With regard to "what shows this" 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wheelchair#Rendering (which 
you've probably already looked at) has a couple of suggestions.  I'm 
sure that there are others though, even features of non-"accessibility 
sprecific" renderings such as the "shopmobility parsing" that I added 
to 
https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=20=53.4955228=-2.514984 
when I found it personally useful.


I am thinking about making a new wiki page for mappers on tags available 
for disability/accessibility things. Presently there is no common page 
for them, something similar to;


the format of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway

and tagging on 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Handicaps/R%C3%A9f%C3%A9rentiel


Yet to get off my bum and do some more research on it, the above will 
give me some more to do, thanks.




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Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Mobility Stockport

[Neil Matthews]

Bath Hacked (on meetup) might be useful to contact -- they organised a
round-table to consider main issues for accessibility in Bath, e.g.
https://www.meetup.com/Bath-Hacked/events/237213318/ before several
sesssions surveying and adding items to Openwheelmap.

Cheers,

Neil



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Réforme du lycée...

[Cédric Frayssinet]

Le 09/01/2019 à 19:13, deuzeffe a écrit :
> Bonjour,
>
> On 07/01/2019 14:19, Cédric Frayssinet wrote:
>
>> Étant aussi formateur académique au Numérique, je vais participer à
>> l'élaboration du plan de formation de mon académie (Lyon). 
>
> Tu dois connaître ça
> https://dane.ac-lyon.fr/spip/OpenStreetMap-la-cartographie-511 alors :)
>
Malheureusement oui, c'est moi qui ai écrit cet article ;)

Cédric


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early Bird Tickets!

[Jo]

I could probably explain a thing or 2 about Wikidata in OSM and vice versa.

Jo

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 9:04 PM Marc Gemis  wrote:

> I'm a bit confused about
>
> - Open Belgium (on March 4)
> and
> - We will also organize a community day during the weekend this year
>
> which weekend is that ? Which community (OpenBelgium or OSM or both) ?
>
> I was also thinking (for a OSM public) -- at least I would be interested
> to participate in such a workshop/presentation to learn more.
>
> - Improve your armchair mapping with Mapillary and OpenStreetCam
>   Explain the 2 project, techniques to use them in iD or JOSM, filter
> images on "topic", ...
> - Wikidata (and Wikipedia and Commons) for mappers.
> What is Wikidata, how can you edit, how can you put data in OSM, potential
> ideas for using a joined DB.
>
>
> m.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 5:18 PM Jonathan Beliën  wrote:
>
>> That’s a really awesome idea indeed !
>> Thanks Marc !
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ll see if we can make that happen during OpenBelgium Community Day ! \o/
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan Beliën
>> SPRL GEO-6 
>>
>>
>>
>> *De :* Santens Seppe 
>> *Envoyé :* mercredi 9 janvier 2019 09:27
>> *À :* OpenStreetMap Belgium 
>> *Objet :* Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers +
>> Early Bird Tickets!
>>
>>
>>
>> Cool idea, Marc!
>>
>>
>>
>> *Van:* Marc Gemis [mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com]
>> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 8 januari 2019 20:32
>> *Aan:* OpenStreetMap Belgium
>> *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers
>> + Early Bird Tickets!
>>
>>
>>
>> I cannot make it to Open Belgium, but I have been thinking about a
>> "walking meetup" for some time now. So instead of sitting in a pub, doing a
>> walk and talk about OSM and survey techniques and apply them.
>>
>> Taking that idea, on a community day, it could be a workshop about
>> surveying techniques, JOSM tips, micromapping, that kind of stuff. It would
>> be an hand-on workshop, where people have to go outside for 15 minutes or
>> so and collect data. Afterwards compare techniques, collected data and do a
>> bit of mapping. Perhaps discuss a bit about usefulness, special maps, ...
>>
>>
>>
>> m.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 1:46 PM Ben Abelshausen 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>>
>>
>> In a few months we have Open Belgium again (yay!) and as usual we will
>> have talks about OSM (Belgium).  We invite everyone to submit a talk,
>> **anything** related to open-(something) is fine, that means openstreetmap
>> too! ;-) We will also organize a community day during the weekend this
>> year, more news about that later, so even if you can't make it on the 4th
>> of march we urge you to submit talks/workshops anyway. We can move them to
>> the community day later.
>>
>>
>>
>> We will probably also have a booth with OSM Belgium and usually have a
>> lot of fun so don't miss it! If you want to attend but find the entry
>> tickets too expense get in touch with me, the community day will be free
>> (to be announced later).
>>
>>
>>
>> All details here:
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: *Astrid - Open Knowledge Belgium* 
>> Date: Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 10:17 AM
>> Subject: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early Bird Tickets!
>> To: 
>>
>>
>>
>> A must-attend conference to discuss the state of and current trends
>> around Open Knowledge and Open Data!
>>
>> Open Belgium 2019 - 4 March in Brussels
>> Open Knowledge and Open Data in Belgium
>>
>>
>>
>> View this email in your browser
>> 
>>
>> [image: Image supprimée par l'expéditeur.]
>> 
>>
>>
>> Let's talk Open Knowledge and Open Data!
>> Ready for Open Belgium 2019?
>>
>>
>> The Belgian open knowledge and open data landscape is changing at a fast
>> pace. In order to stay up-to-date and to share insights with *300+
>> fellow open enthusiasts,* we would like to invite you to join us at
>> the annual *community-driven Open Belgium 2019
>> *
>> conference on *4 March in Brussels*.
>>
>> Since you participated in previous editions of Open Belgium, you know
>> exactly what to expect: inspirational high-level keynote speakers, engaging
>> panel discussions, hands-on and minds-on workshops as well as an
>> interactive exhibition space.
>>
>>
>>
>> Get your *Early Bird ticket* *now* and *save more than 30%!*
>>
>>
>>
>> *GET YOUR TICKET*
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> *When?*
>>
>> *Monday 4 March, 08:30-19:00*
>>
>> Full programme available soon
>>
>>
>>
>> *Where?*
>> *Herman Teirlinck Building*
>> Avenue du Port 88, 1000 Brussels
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: Image supprimée par l'expéditeur.]
>> 

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Vitesses maximales autorisées sur route

[Gwenaël Jouvin]

Merci pour vos réponses.

J’ai mis à jour la valeur correspondante.


Le 09/01/2019 à 17:50, Christian Quest a écrit :
> Le 09/01/2019 à 12:28, marc marc a écrit :
>> Le 09.01.19 à 12:23, Gwenaël Jouvin a écrit :
>>> question plus générale, comment fonctionne cette relation
>> a ma connaissance aucun outil "important" ne l'utilise et aucune le dit
>> le faire dans taginfo :
>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/relations/defaults#projects
>>
>> chaque routeur fait sa propre roue pour trouver les bonnes valeurs
>> (certains analyse la page du wiki, d'autres doivent sûrement avoir qlq
>> qui le fait à la main).
>>
>> L'idée est bonne mais il manque la finition.
> 
> 
> Ceci n'empêche pas de mettre à jour le contenu... même si il est peu exploité 
> ;)
> 

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Alexa Traffic Rank

[Simon Poole]

Am 09.01.2019 um 21:47 schrieb Sérgio V.:
> According to "Alexa Traffic Rank": 
> "The rank [of openstreetmap.org] declined 517 positions versus the
> previous 3 months".
> Global Rank: 7,069
> https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/openstreetmap.org
> ("The rank is calculated using a combination of average daily visitors
> to this site and pageviews on this site over the past 3 months".)

Except it isn't, see upper right corner "This site's metrics are estimated"


The site is what is otherwise called a scam.


> Use OSM.
> Spread OSM.
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> Sérgio - http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/smaprs
>
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Re: [Talk-es] Participación en Jornadas SIG Libre 2019

[Miguel Sevilla-Callejo]

Hola,

Para agilizar el tema y ala vista de que hay que decir algo en poco menos
de dos días estamos moviendo el tema varias personas en un grupo de
Telegram y escribiendo fuera de esta lista. Si alguna persona quiere estar
informada y/o quiere participar que lo diga y la incluimos.

Por el momento estamos Lanxana, José Luis Infante, algunas personas de
Zaragoza y otras de Barcelona.

Aún no hemos decidido nada en concreto, cuando haya algo claro lo
comentaremos.

Un saludo

--
*Miguel Sevilla-Callejo*
Doctor en Geografía


On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 19:46, Miguel Sevilla-Callejo 
wrote:

> Hola,
>
> Reboto este correo que he enviado a la lista Talk-es de OSM por si hubiera
> alguien interesado en el tema, especialmente, en lo referente a estudios de
> accesibilidad y OpenStreetMap, y que quiera sumarse a un potencial taller +
> mapping party y/o una comunicación en las jornadas.
>
> Un saludo y FELIZ AÑO!
>
> --
> *Miguel Sevilla-Callejo*
> Doctor en Geografía
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Miguel Sevilla-Callejo 
> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 19:40
> Subject: Re: [Talk-es] Participación en Jornadas SIG Libre 2019
> To: Discusión en Español de OpenStreetMap 
>
>
> Hola a todos
>
> Mi intención era ir a las jornada de SIG Libre de este año y claro está,
> me encantaría poder llevar algo de OpenStreetMap, ya fuera de la comunidad
> en general, como lo que propone Lanxana del catastro o algo propio de lo
> que estamos haciendo en el grupo de Mapeado Colaborativo en Zaragoza, o
> algo en conjunto y mixto.
>
> Personalmente me había planteado la posibilidad de llevar, al menos una
> comunicación sobre el tema de la accesibilidad usando OpenStreetMap, al
> hilo del trabajo que presentó y que sigue haciendo Nacho Orte [1] pero me
> gustaría ir más allá si hay más gente interesada de la comunidad y preparar
> no solo una comunicación si no también un taller sobre el tema que, además
> incluyera una mapping party en Girona en los días de las jornadas. Así, de
> paso aprovechamos para coordinarnos todas las personas interesadas en este
> interesante tema. ¿Alguien interesado?
>
> Con lo del tema del catastro, ya sea solo para una comunicación y/o más un
> taller usando JOSM me presto ayudar e incluso impartir la presentación pero
> yo/nosotros en Zaragona no me/nos he/hemos metido aún con lo de la
> importación del Catastro y mi/nuestra experiencia es reducida al respecto.
>
> Creo que la cosa es saber quien vamos a ir, qué intereses tenemos y hasta
> dónde podemos llegar. Por el momento creo que solo hemos confirmado nuestra
> intención firme de asistir Lanxana, Nacho y yo
>
> ¿Quién se une?
>
> [1] Trabajo Final de Grado OSM - accesibilidad -->
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-es/2019-January/016510.html
>
> --
> *Miguel Sevilla-Callejo*
> Doctor en Geografía
>
>
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 01:11, Javier Sánchez Portero 
> wrote:
>
>> Yo también puedo colaborar. Lo que hace falta es que alguien se anime a
>> asistir e impartir la presentación.
>>
>> El mié., 2 ene. 2019 a las 17:34, Lanxana . ()
>> escribió:
>>
>>> Buenas,
>>>
>>> retomo la discusión porque en unos días se cerrará el plazo para
>>> presentar las propuestas.
>>>
>>> Tema tutoriales, creo que se podría combinar entre los vídeos que
>>> propones y talleres presenciales. En todo caso, tras darle unas vueltas y
>>> plantearme la pregunta al revés, creo que un taller sobre importación de
>>> catastro no se ajustaría a las Jornadas, dado que son herramientas con
>>> objetivo muy concreto. En cambio, un taller sobre JOSM podría interesar a
>>> más público, ya sea a quien edita desde web y no se atreve a dar el paso,
>>> como a quien no ha editado nunca.
>>>
>>> Sobre la presentación, sigo pensando que estaría bien hacerla, aunque
>>> sea sin entrar en la parte más técnica del código. Entiendo que son muchas
>>> horas que has dedicado ya a desarrollar el código, pero como no me he
>>> enfrentado al proceso de importación en sí, sería interesante que alguien
>>> que sí lo haya hecho se animara a contar su experiencia.
>>>
>>> Personalmente puedo echar una mano en cualquiera de las dos propuestas,
>>> pero no me veo capaz de llevarlas en solitario.
>>>
>>> En todo caso, si nadie se anima y no se hacen, podemos ir hablando de
>>> los videotutoriales, que es algo de lo que ya se habló en la última reunión.
>>>
>>> Saludos
>>>
>>>
>>> El lun., 26 nov. 2018 a las 20:42, Javier Sánchez Portero (<
>>> javiers...@gmail.com>) escribió:
>>>
 Hola

 Me parece una idea genial. Lo que comentas de los tutoriales lo tenía
 en mente con el fin de facilitar a gente con cualquier nivel digerir la
 guía de importación. Pensaba en videotutoriales a partir de capturas de
 sesiones de trabajo en Josm comentadas con audio. Sería un trabajo que
 quedaría disponible para consulta en la red a un público potencialmente muy
 amplio, mientras que los talleres en unas jornadas están limitados a unas
 fechas y 

Re: [OSM-talk] No access to Overpass API

[sergio]

Hello, Roland.

I've just subscribed to talk so sorry for thread beaking.

overpass-api.de blocked in russia due to 178.63.0.0/16

https://isitblockedinrussia.com/?host=overpass-api.de
https://isitblockedinrussia.com/?host=www.overpass-api.de
https://isitblockedinrussia.com/?host=lz4.overpass-api.de
https://isitblockedinrussia.com/?host=z.overpass-api.de


I've opened Overpass-API github issue:
https://github.com/drolbr/Overpass-API/issues/520
but looks like it's wrong place for this

I've started OSM RU form topic:
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=65012
It's about unblocking 178.63.0.0/16 on the russian side, but really I 
don't believe in this.



178.63.0.0/16 is hetzner subnet, right? Could you ask them to provide 
not blocked ip.


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[OSM-talk] OSM Alexa Traffic Rank

[Sérgio V .]

According to "Alexa Traffic Rank":
"The rank [of openstreetmap.org] declined 517 positions versus the previous 3 
months".
Global Rank: 7,069
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/openstreetmap.org
("The rank is calculated using a combination of average daily visitors to this 
site and pageviews on this site over the past 3 months".)
Use OSM.
Spread OSM.


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early Bird Tickets!

[Marc Gemis]

I'm a bit confused about

- Open Belgium (on March 4)
and
- We will also organize a community day during the weekend this year

which weekend is that ? Which community (OpenBelgium or OSM or both) ?

I was also thinking (for a OSM public) -- at least I would be interested to
participate in such a workshop/presentation to learn more.

- Improve your armchair mapping with Mapillary and OpenStreetCam
  Explain the 2 project, techniques to use them in iD or JOSM, filter
images on "topic", ...
- Wikidata (and Wikipedia and Commons) for mappers.
What is Wikidata, how can you edit, how can you put data in OSM, potential
ideas for using a joined DB.


m.


On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 5:18 PM Jonathan Beliën  wrote:

> That’s a really awesome idea indeed !
> Thanks Marc !
>
>
>
> I’ll see if we can make that happen during OpenBelgium Community Day ! \o/
>
>
>
> Jonathan Beliën
> SPRL GEO-6 
>
>
>
> *De :* Santens Seppe 
> *Envoyé :* mercredi 9 janvier 2019 09:27
> *À :* OpenStreetMap Belgium 
> *Objet :* Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers +
> Early Bird Tickets!
>
>
>
> Cool idea, Marc!
>
>
>
> *Van:* Marc Gemis [mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com]
> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 8 januari 2019 20:32
> *Aan:* OpenStreetMap Belgium
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers
> + Early Bird Tickets!
>
>
>
> I cannot make it to Open Belgium, but I have been thinking about a
> "walking meetup" for some time now. So instead of sitting in a pub, doing a
> walk and talk about OSM and survey techniques and apply them.
>
> Taking that idea, on a community day, it could be a workshop about
> surveying techniques, JOSM tips, micromapping, that kind of stuff. It would
> be an hand-on workshop, where people have to go outside for 15 minutes or
> so and collect data. Afterwards compare techniques, collected data and do a
> bit of mapping. Perhaps discuss a bit about usefulness, special maps, ...
>
>
>
> m.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 1:46 PM Ben Abelshausen 
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone!
>
>
>
> In a few months we have Open Belgium again (yay!) and as usual we will
> have talks about OSM (Belgium).  We invite everyone to submit a talk,
> **anything** related to open-(something) is fine, that means openstreetmap
> too! ;-) We will also organize a community day during the weekend this
> year, more news about that later, so even if you can't make it on the 4th
> of march we urge you to submit talks/workshops anyway. We can move them to
> the community day later.
>
>
>
> We will probably also have a booth with OSM Belgium and usually have a lot
> of fun so don't miss it! If you want to attend but find the entry tickets
> too expense get in touch with me, the community day will be free (to be
> announced later).
>
>
>
> All details here:
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: *Astrid - Open Knowledge Belgium* 
> Date: Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 10:17 AM
> Subject: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early Bird Tickets!
> To: 
>
>
>
> A must-attend conference to discuss the state of and current trends around
> Open Knowledge and Open Data!
>
> Open Belgium 2019 - 4 March in Brussels
> Open Knowledge and Open Data in Belgium
>
>
>
> View this email in your browser
> 
>
> [image: Image supprimée par l'expéditeur.]
> 
>
>
> Let's talk Open Knowledge and Open Data!
> Ready for Open Belgium 2019?
>
>
> The Belgian open knowledge and open data landscape is changing at a fast
> pace. In order to stay up-to-date and to share insights with *300+ fellow
> open enthusiasts,* we would like to invite you to join us at the annual 
> *community-driven
> Open Belgium 2019
> *
> conference on *4 March in Brussels*.
>
> Since you participated in previous editions of Open Belgium, you know
> exactly what to expect: inspirational high-level keynote speakers, engaging
> panel discussions, hands-on and minds-on workshops as well as an
> interactive exhibition space.
>
>
>
> Get your *Early Bird ticket* *now* and *save more than 30%!*
>
>
>
> *GET YOUR TICKET*
> 
>
>
>
> *When?*
>
> *Monday 4 March, 08:30-19:00*
>
> Full programme available soon
>
>
>
> *Where?*
> *Herman Teirlinck Building*
> Avenue du Port 88, 1000 Brussels
>
>
>
> [image: Image supprimée par l'expéditeur.]
> 
>
>
>
> Link to Call for Speakers: http://2019.openbelgium.be/speakers
> 
>
> We are looking forward to seeing 

Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[xkomc...@centrum.cz]

Teď vede po silnici, pěšině a cestě. Odpovídá to na první pohled i 
satelitním snímkům.


On 09. 01. 19 19:25, Majka wrote:

Ještě k těm změnám:
Ta naučná stezka je cesta (track) nebo pěšina (path)?
Zůstává tam teď pěšina, protože ta cesta z relace zmizela.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Mobility Stockport

[SK53]

Hi Jez,

These things are much talked about in OSM, but relatively rarely moved to a
point of real usability. I went to a really interesting talk at SotM-10
with lots of good ideas, but years later when I looked at their target city
there was nary a trace of actual mapping.

Even for step counts I'm not aware of any applications which do
reduced-step as opposed to step-free routing (unless Richard does something
in cycle.travel where a flight of 10 steps may be acceptable compared with
a kilometre detour). Part of the problem here is that often the precise
number of steps which are acceptable will depend on each individual.
However, mapping step counts is easy, everyone is likely to come to a
similar result.

Off the top of my head things which should be relatively easy to capture
and fit in OSM :

   - Steps & step counts on stairs . Either map individual flights of
   stairs separately or include some indication of how many steps there are on
   each flight. If one has to use stairs, the ability to take a breather can
   mean that 2 flights of 20 steps are easier than 1 of 30.
   - Presence of handrails on stairs
   - Atypical steps (e.g., a footpath with 1 or 2 steps every 20 metres or
   so; or ones where the individual treads are long (came across one of these
   at Birkenhead Park station & there's no lift).
   - Steeper inclines on footways/pedestrianised streets
   - Dropped kerbs (it's actually quite hard to identify properly flush
   ones, and hitting something which is just slightly proud of the line can
   jolt a wheelchair)
   - Refuge islands for pedestrian crossings
   - Unmarked crossings (often identified by dropped kerbs and perhaps a
   refuge)
   - Wheelchair access to amenities & shops (best done by a wheelchair
   user, but could be done with a tape measure for all entrances which are not
   flush). Also it's quite likely that dedicated wheelchair ramps may not have
   been mapped in the first pass.
   Do amenities/shops which have a step to gain entrance have a) a ramp or
   b) an alternative means of egress. Asking about this could be a good way to
   tell them about simple metal/fibre-glass movable ramps.
   - Pedestrian safety barriers (as these may restrict viable places to
   cross roads (not important if one solely allows ped. crossings for routing).
   - Lifts in shopping centres & other locations (e.g, railway stations).
   - Seating at bus stops

At some stage the issue of whether to map pavements (sidewalks) separately
will arise. If pavements are to be mapped separately they need to be done
systematically in any one area : incomplete mapping can cause problems with
many existing applications, particularly those which do routing (e.g.,
Traveline SouthEast). This may be a suitable case for using something like
Tasking Manager: I can set up a project if needed as I have kindly been
given rights to do on the instance supported by the Swiss OSM community.

I've spent about 3 hours in total mapping the town centre of Stockport in
2015 and 2016, so I have a bit of local knowledge. I've also mapped stuff
along the A516 to the Tameside boundary, but not really elsewhere in the
Borough. As elsewhere in NW England it is not mapped as intensively as
other places. It certainly has plenty of steps, steep pedestrian routes
right in the middle of the town. A cursory check suggests that improving
the mapping of railway stations would probably be useful, for instance the
current mapping of Brinnington doesn't accord with the statement that it is
not accessible on this forum

.

I probably have a couple of hundred photos, but Bing StreetSide is
available for the area (albeit 2012) and shows enough detail to be useful
as here  with the steps up from Little Underbank
towards the Market. Capturing more recent imagery for Mapillary would also
certainly help. The town centre is not so big as to be unmanageable. I
don't have any idea of that status of other local centres.

One project which is worth mentioning is OpenSidewalks
, which had some impact in the US. I don't
know what it's current status might be.

Jerry

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 18:12, Jez Nicholson  wrote:

> Seeking your input...
>
> I'm talking with Open Data Institute (ODI) Manchester about their "Mapping
> Mobility Stockport" project which won some funding in a competition to
> encourage interaction between public bodies and Open Data bodies (such as
> OSM).
>
> They are "crowdsourcing and creating an accessibility map of Stockport,
> working with disability action groups and Age UK."
>
> They will be running workshops with different groups of people getting
> them out mapping. Data created will 1) be added to Stockport Council’s GIS
> map and to help inform them of problems, 2) be added to OSMalthough
> they are keen to use OSM as the primary datastore then extract stuff for
> 

Re: [OSM-talk] Help with way forward with Grab

[Mateusz Konieczny]

Jan 7, 2019, 3:23 PM by mish...@mishari.net:

> 1. What's a fair expectation from such a mapping team? 
>
To not make situation worse - it is unnaceptable to make much more mistakes
than unpaid hobby mappers.

Maybe they unable to fulfil this requirement and contract signed with Grab while
remaining profitable - but it is not our problem.
 

> On one hand there's the potential to add much geometry to the project
>
low quality data is worse than no data


> Sadly Bicycle routing in the Grab mapped areas in Bangkok using Brouter.de is 
> now unreliable because service roads have been added without information 
> about access permission or barrier and in other cases ways have been 
> connected where no connection exists.
>
In cases where mistakes are obvious using available aerial images and made by a 
paid mapper
who was warned about such mistakes in changeset comments - I would revert 
immediately.

In cases where edit could not be done in a better way using aerial images - I 
am unsure and consult 
others.


> 2. Thailand's mapping community is small and it would be impossible for us to 
> go through all 7,000 edits made and set it right. I've identified at least 
> one of the issues (1-3) in roughly 1 out of 4 changesets made by Grab/Global 
> Logic in my neighborhood in Central Bangkok and I would be unable to give 
> feedback on any issues outside of this zone, likely the same with other 
> mappers.
>

I would assume that data elsewhere has the same quality. If it is making map 
worse I would revert
such edits.

> 2.1 Should we just ignore the errors, slowly fix the errors, or demand Grab 
> fixes it somehow? Can we take lessons from any other projects, say TIGER 
> imports?
>
Demand fixes before adding any new data and before subcontractor collects money 
and runs away.

> 2.2 What would even constitute as a fix by Grab? Should we ask them to do 
> something like fixme=verify_on_ground on the new entries so that it can be 
> ignored by the routing until verified?
>
The only use of fixme=verify_on_ground is that it would make mass deletion 
easier.
Data added should be correct, not marked as incorrect. And requirements for 
paid mappers
should be increased not lowered.

They should simply add correct data.

>  3.1 There doesn't seem to be a way in to enforce a commitment. 
>
If added data is known to be low quality it is OK to revert it without detailed 
review.

Sometimes just mentioning that mass revert is an option is enough.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Help with way forward with Grab

[Mateusz Konieczny]

Jan 7, 2019, 7:24 PM by o...@imagico.de:

>> 2.2 What would even constitute as a fix by Grab? Should we ask them
>> to do something like fixme=verify_on_ground on the new entries so
>> that it can be ignored by the routing until verified?
>>
>
> No - if you see a significant fraction of what they map is verifiably 
> incorrect they need to change their approach - either fixing the 
> errors, if necessary by going out there and checking things locally or 
> by removing the data that is faulty.
>
And in case that they continue to edit in way that adds more mistakes than a 
typical mapper 
or refuse to reply to changeset comments - it is perfectly fine to block their 
accounts (this requires
involving DWG) and revert all their edits.

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Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[Majka]

Ještě k těm změnám:
Ta naučná stezka je cesta (track) nebo pěšina (path)?
Zůstává tam teď pěšina, protože ta cesta z relace zmizela. 

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Réforme du lycée...

[deuzeffe]

Bonjour,

On 07/01/2019 14:19, Cédric Frayssinet wrote:

Étant aussi formateur académique au Numérique, je vais participer à 
l'élaboration du plan de formation de mon académie (Lyon). 


Tu dois connaître ça 
https://dane.ac-lyon.fr/spip/OpenStreetMap-la-cartographie-511 alors :)


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[Talk-GB] Mapping Mobility Stockport

[Jez Nicholson]

Seeking your input...

I'm talking with Open Data Institute (ODI) Manchester about their "Mapping
Mobility Stockport" project which won some funding in a competition to
encourage interaction between public bodies and Open Data bodies (such as
OSM).

They are "crowdsourcing and creating an accessibility map of Stockport,
working with disability action groups and Age UK."

They will be running workshops with different groups of people getting them
out mapping. Data created will 1) be added to Stockport Council’s GIS map
and to help inform them of problems, 2) be added to OSMalthough they
are keen to use OSM as the primary datastore then extract stuff for use by
the Council, and not vice versa. They will mostly be using existing tools.

I believe that some mobility things are suited for inclusion in OSM,  e.g.
number of steps in a flight (from a chat I had with SK53), or wheelchair
accessibility of shops (maybe using WheelMap).

Some things like uneven paving stones might be better suited to
FixMyStreet, but that could be used as well.

So far I've suggested using a combination of OSM ID Editor, WheelMap, and
FixMyStreet. What other tools or information on the web are there to
consider? Any specific mobility things to map (on OSM or other
tools/sites)? Is there an "accessibility render" anywhere?

Regards,
 Jez
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Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[Marián Kyral]

-- Původní e-mail --
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Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 9. 1. 2019 18:33:58
Předmět: Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BANO

[deuzeffe]

Merci Vincent pour toutes ces précisions, c'est plus clair, d'un coup :)

On 09/01/2019 15:20, Vincent de Château-Thierry wrote:


Oui il faudrait aussi modifier la manière d'accéder au bâti du
cadastre. Il y a eu pour cela des travaux amorcés côté JOSM, je
suppose que Vincent (Privat) saura nous en dire plus le moment venu
;)


Mmmhh, tu sais quel Vincent (ou autre contributeur plus qu'actif) 
maintient les scripts d'extraction ?


Il y a aussi le petit souci de frontend qui mêle https et http : c'est 
connu, mais s'il faut (r)ouvrir un ticket, suffit de le dire ^^



Je profite de ce message pour indiquer ici des discussions publiques
autour de la BAN, lisibles à :
https://georezo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=315286#p315286 (et
messages suivants).


Marfi M'sieur.

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Re: [Talk-ca] Business Improvement Area tagging

[Harald Kliems]

To me this is a clear case of something that doesn't belong in OSM. It
sounds like the boundaries aren't verifiable on the ground and may change
frequently. Therefore any data in OSM would go stale quickly and the only
verification of accuracy would be to go back to the source.
Yes, we have deviations from the "verifiable on the ground" rule, but we've
had similar discussions for census boundaries, ridings/election districts,
and on the the talk-us list recently about Bureau of Land Management
boundaries.

For your analysis of businesses within a BIA, you can just download the OSM
and BIA boundary data separately and do the analysis in the GIS application
of your choice.

 Harald.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 6:32 PM Matthew Darwin  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I'm not sure if this applies to other provinces or not, so I thought I
> would ask here.
>
> In Ontario there is a concept of "Business Improvement Area" ("BIA" for
> short) that has the power to tax businesses within their zone  (see
> http://www.mah.gov.on.ca/Page1529.aspx for details).
>
> I want to tag these in OSM, so then you can run a query to find all
> businesses within a BIA. Sometimes the boundaries of the BIA are very tight
> and just cover things that are actual businesses, and sometimes the
> boundaries of a BIA are very loose and cover lots of area including
> residential... and when a new business comes up later in that area it
> automatically is a part of the BIA.
>
> I am thinking that the *relation type=boundary, boundary=local_authority 
> *might
> be applicable here, and define either a Canada specific definition maybe
> just Ontario, depending if the concept exists elsewhere.
>
> I would like to get people's opinion on this idea  Or please suggest
> something else.
>
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aboundary%3Dlocal_authority
>
>- type =boundary
>
>- boundary =
>local_authority
>- name =*
>- local_authority:CA
>
> 
>=BIA
>
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[Talk-br] Parceria OSM e ANA

[Thierry Jean]

Caros,

Depois de encontrar as pessoas da ANA no evento SBIDE (10 anos da INDE), fiz 
contato e a resposta foi muito boa. As sugestões são bem-vindas. Se tiver ideia 
mais concreta, ou vontade de se envolver diretamente na conversa com a ANA, não 
hesitem em pegar o tel e ligar para mim.
==//===

RES: OpenStreetMap e ANA, após o nosso encontro no SBIDE
Caixa de entrada
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OSM.com.br
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Marcus André Fuckner 


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Olá Thierry,

Temos interesse sim em uma aproximação com o OpenStreetMap, inclusive conversei 
com outros colegas aqui da ANA a respeito. Inclusive já adotamos a base como 
mapa de fundo em todos os mapas interativos de nossos sistema de informações 
(SNIRH) em http://www.snirh.gov.br/. A base hidrográfica ottocodificada da ANA, 
cuja versão mais atual está disponível para download em 
http://metadados.ana.gov.br/geonetwork/srv/pt/main.home?uuid=0c698205-6b59-48dc-8b5e-a58a5dfcc989
 e contém mais de 3,3 milhões de trechos de drenagem (unifilarizados, com 
sentido de fluxo, segundo o modelo de topologia arco-nó: informações resumidas 
sobre a metodologia de construção e codificação podem ser obtidas no folder em 
anexo, toda a base é construídas em banco de dados por meio do PgHydro 
http://pghydro.org/), pode ser um input para o mapa, se é que existem essas 
possibilidades de carga.

Podemos pensar em uma proposta de os colaboradores da plataforma nos auxiliarem 
na identificação da toponímia dos cursos d’água e massas d’água de nossas bases 
da ANA (massas d’água é outra base com 250 mil polígonos aproximadamente, e a 
atualização será publicada agora em janeiro), ou até mesmo no refinamento da 
geometria das nossas feições, e/ou complementações/detalhamentos. Acredito que 
isso seria viável, para haver fonte complementar além da toponímia oficial da 
cartografia sistemática, por exemplo. Acredito que seja uma perspectiva 
interessante de parceria que podemos avaliar em 2019, entre outras.

Atenciosamente,



De: Thierry Jean 
mailto:thie...@openstreetmap.com.br>>
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 28 de dezembro de 2018 18:15
Para: Marcus André Fuckner 
mailto:marcus.fuck...@ana.gov.br>>
Assunto: OpenStreetMap e ANA, após o nosso encontro no SBIDE



Prezado Marcus,

Seguindo o nosso encontro no SBIDE, em Novembro, no Rio de Janeiro, eu gostaria 
de aproximar o OpenStreetMap e a ANA.

Encaminho uma apresentação do projeto de mapa colaborativo 
OpenStreetMap.
 OSM é o projeto que começou com um estudante em física em Londres em 2004 e 
que atraiu a colaboração e apoio de grandes corporações como os Governos do 
mundo inteiro, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon etc...

Os membros da comunidade e eu estamos a disposição para dar mais informações, 
como participar de eventos e projetos.


Aqui está uma apresentação PDF:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/geuoobbd19j0jca/OpenStreetMap_Apresentacao_20180502.pdf?dl=0


Vídeo de 1:40 mn mostrando como se edita o mapa:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv9erJ4IhhAfeature=youtu.be

Artigo de 2014 que explica bem o potencial e a importancia do OSM para a 
sociedade:
http://gizmodo.uol.com.br/analise-openstreetmap/

Video com reportagem da TV Vanguarda (Globo) sobre o mapeamento de Monteiro 
Lobato - SP feito com alunos da rede municipal.
http://g1.globo.com/sp/vale-do-paraiba-regiao/jornal-vanguarda/videos/v/estudantes-fazem-mapa-de-mon...

Cordialmente,


Thierry Jean
Colaborador e Membro Fundador do OpenStreetMap Brasil
Cel.: +55 11 9 9607 1319

Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[Michal Poupa]

A jak se dlazdice označí “dirty”?



9. 1. 2019 v 18:18, Marián Kyral :

> 
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> 
> Ahoj,
> 
> Díky za opravy!
> 
> OpenStreetMap-carto, defaulní styl pro Mapnik na webu OSM.org, který 
> může za to, jakou barvu má křoví, se neustále vyvíjí. Co chvíli vychází 
> nová verze (poznáte to tak, že se vám pár dní pořádně nerenderují změny 
> co uděláte z mapě, jelikož se musí renderovat celý svět na vyšších zoom 
> levelech)
> 
> 
> Jo ták. Tohle mě poslední dobou dost mátlo a celkem štvalo. Člověk udělá 
> změnu a ono nic :-(
> Dík za info.
> 
> Jinak, vím, že je zima a měly by se mapovat spíše zimní sporty ( ;-) ), ale 
> nově se renderují i tobogány a koupaliště konečně vypadají kompletně.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Talk-ca] Business Improvement Area tagging

[Bernie Connors]

Matthew,

  Here in NB we also have the very same concept of Business Improvement
Areas (BIA).  The BIA boundaries can be downloaded from the GeoNB Data
Catalogue.

Bernie.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019, 8:32 PM Matthew Darwin  Hello all,
>
> I'm not sure if this applies to other provinces or not, so I thought I
> would ask here.
>
> In Ontario there is a concept of "Business Improvement Area" ("BIA" for
> short) that has the power to tax businesses within their zone  (see
> http://www.mah.gov.on.ca/Page1529.aspx for details).
>
> I want to tag these in OSM, so then you can run a query to find all
> businesses within a BIA. Sometimes the boundaries of the BIA are very tight
> and just cover things that are actual businesses, and sometimes the
> boundaries of a BIA are very loose and cover lots of area including
> residential... and when a new business comes up later in that area it
> automatically is a part of the BIA.
>
> I am thinking that the *relation type=boundary, boundary=local_authority 
> *might
> be applicable here, and define either a Canada specific definition maybe
> just Ontario, depending if the concept exists elsewhere.
>
> I would like to get people's opinion on this idea  Or please suggest
> something else.
>
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aboundary%3Dlocal_authority
>
>- type =boundary
>
>- boundary =
>local_authority
>- name =*
>- local_authority:CA
>
> 
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Re: [talk-cz] [Talk-cz] Problém s podklady IRP

[r00t]

Ahoj,

Diky za fix a zprovozneni.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Vitesses maximales autorisées sur route

[Christian Quest]

Le 09/01/2019 à 12:28, marc marc a écrit :

Le 09.01.19 à 12:23, Gwenaël Jouvin a écrit :

question plus générale, comment fonctionne cette relation

a ma connaissance aucun outil "important" ne l'utilise et aucune le dit
le faire dans taginfo :
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/relations/defaults#projects

chaque routeur fait sa propre roue pour trouver les bonnes valeurs
(certains analyse la page du wiki, d'autres doivent sûrement avoir qlq
qui le fait à la main).

L'idée est bonne mais il manque la finition.



Ceci n'empêche pas de mettre à jour le contenu... même si il est peu 
exploité ;)


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Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[majka]

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 17:36, Michal Poupa  wrote:

> aha myslel jsem že pomocí CTRL-F5 to donutím vyrenderovat jinde to
> většinou fungovalo a když ne tak třeba za 5 min
>

Já se obávám, že tahle změna na relaci se sama v přiblížení "nechytne".

Takže se musí čekat až na to, až ta dlaždice zastará sama, nebo se musí
něčím pobídnout vyrendrování - tj. tím označením jako "dirty". Co vím, tak
se všechny dlaždice rendrují vždy asi 1x za dva týdny. Častěji to běží jen,
pokud systém "pozná" editaci, která si změnu vyžádá.

Stránky Openstreetmap.cz "nějak" vybízely k tomu přerendrování současného
pohledu při ctrl+F5, ale podle mého to v současné době nefunguje. U
openstreetmap.org to nefungovalo nikdy. Nebo se pletu?

Majka
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Re: [Talk-de] Attribut für die Europachausee in Halle (Saale)

[Heinz-Jürgen Oertel]

Am Mittwoch, 9. Januar 2019, 11:33:34 CET schrieb Georg Feddern:
> Ich würde daher die gesamte Strecke als primary taggen, dadurch ist sie
> ausreichend hoch eingestuft, um als Umgehung von/zur A 14 genutzt zu werden.

Ich werde nun noch einige Tage auf Kommentare warten. Dann entscheiden, ob es 
beim jetzigen trunk bleibt oder ein primary wird.
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Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[Michal Poupa]

aha myslel jsem že pomocí CTRL-F5 to donutím vyrenderovat jinde to
většinou fungovalo a když ne tak třeba za 5 min

st 9. 1. 2019 v 17:32 odesílatel majka  napsal:
>
>
>
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 17:20, Michal Poupa  wrote:
>>
>> kdyby to bylo OK tak už to tam dávno není maximálně bych dal v chrome
>> CTR+F5 a bylo by to pryč...
>
>
> Není pravda. Stav :
> Tile is clean. Last rendered at Mon Dec 24 00:19:40 2018. Last accessed at 
> Wed Jan 09 11:23:08 2019. Stored in 
> file:///srv/tile.openstreetmap.org/tiles/default/15/0/66/75/166/8.meta
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> Bylo nutné to ručně označit jako dirty a musí se čekat na nové vyrendrování.
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Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[majka]

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 17:20, Michal Poupa  wrote:

> kdyby to bylo OK tak už to tam dávno není maximálně bych dal v chrome
> CTR+F5 a bylo by to pryč...
>

Není pravda. Stav
 :
Tile is clean. Last rendered at Mon Dec 24 00:19:40 2018. Last accessed at
Wed Jan 09 11:23:08 2019. Stored in file:///srv/
tile.openstreetmap.org/tiles/default/15/0/66/75/166/8.meta

Bylo nutné to ručně označit jako dirty a musí se čekat na nové vyrendrování.
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Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[xkomc...@centrum.cz]

Může tam být ještě něco (i když pochybuji, ale budu rád, když se na to 
ještě někdo podívá), nicméně Ctrl+F5 maže cache u tebe v prohlížeči, což 
automaticky neznamená, že se ta dlaždice vyrendereuje znovu (renderovací 
servery mohou být zatíženy něčím jiným než zrovna tvým požadavkem). 
Navíc, nevím, jestli se to někde necachuje nebo není někde na cestě CDN 
(netuší někdo?).


Navíc, tady už to začíná pomalu vypadat správně: 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/50.00086/13.01658 (alespoň u mne 
je horní polovina vyrenderovaná tak jak má být a zoom level 17 je zcela 
správně, což předtím zcela určitě nebylo - porovnej s vedle ležící Ptačí 
NS).


On 09. 01. 19 17:19, Michal Poupa wrote:

kdyby to bylo OK tak už to tam dávno není maximálně bych dal v chrome
CTR+F5 a bylo by to pryč...

st 9. 1. 2019 v 16:24 odesílatel majka  napsal:

Tak si zase odpovím sama na svou otázku: to zobrazení je relativně starý bug v 
OpenStreetMap-carto. Že ten tag na relaci podle wiki nepatří, je věc druhá...

A teď už se tady přestávám dohadovat sama se sebou ;)
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Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[Michal Poupa]

kdyby to bylo OK tak už to tam dávno není maximálně bych dal v chrome
CTR+F5 a bylo by to pryč...

st 9. 1. 2019 v 16:24 odesílatel majka  napsal:
>
> Tak si zase odpovím sama na svou otázku: to zobrazení je relativně starý bug 
> v OpenStreetMap-carto. Že ten tag na relaci podle wiki nepatří, je věc 
> druhá...
>
> A teď už se tady přestávám dohadovat sama se sebou ;)
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early Bird Tickets!

[Jonathan Beliën]

That’s a really awesome idea indeed !
Thanks Marc !

I’ll see if we can make that happen during OpenBelgium Community Day ! \o/

Jonathan Beliën
SPRL GEO-6

De : Santens Seppe 
Envoyé : mercredi 9 janvier 2019 09:27
À : OpenStreetMap Belgium 
Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early 
Bird Tickets!

Cool idea, Marc!

Van: Marc Gemis [mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: dinsdag 8 januari 2019 20:32
Aan: OpenStreetMap Belgium
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early 
Bird Tickets!

I cannot make it to Open Belgium, but I have been thinking about a "walking 
meetup" for some time now. So instead of sitting in a pub, doing a walk and 
talk about OSM and survey techniques and apply them.

Taking that idea, on a community day, it could be a workshop about surveying 
techniques, JOSM tips, micromapping, that kind of stuff. It would be an hand-on 
workshop, where people have to go outside for 15 minutes or so and collect 
data. Afterwards compare techniques, collected data and do a bit of mapping. 
Perhaps discuss a bit about usefulness, special maps, ...

m.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 1:46 PM Ben Abelshausen 
mailto:ben.abelshau...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi everyone!

In a few months we have Open Belgium again (yay!) and as usual we will have 
talks about OSM (Belgium).  We invite everyone to submit a talk, **anything** 
related to open-(something) is fine, that means openstreetmap too! ;-) We will 
also organize a community day during the weekend this year, more news about 
that later, so even if you can't make it on the 4th of march we urge you to 
submit talks/workshops anyway. We can move them to the community day later.

We will probably also have a booth with OSM Belgium and usually have a lot of 
fun so don't miss it! If you want to attend but find the entry tickets too 
expense get in touch with me, the community day will be free (to be announced 
later).

All details here:

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Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[majka]

Tak si zase odpovím sama na svou otázku: to zobrazení je relativně starý bug
 v
OpenStreetMap-carto. Že ten tag na relaci podle wiki nepatří, je věc
druhá...

A teď už se tady přestávám dohadovat sama se sebou ;)
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Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[xkomc...@centrum.cz]

Ahoj,

Díky za opravy!

OpenStreetMap-carto, defaulní styl pro Mapnik na webu OSM.org, který 
může za to, jakou barvu má křoví, se neustále vyvíjí. Co chvíli vychází 
nová verze (poznáte to tak, že se vám pár dní pořádně nerenderují změny 
co uděláte z mapě, jelikož se musí renderovat celý svět na vyšších zoom 
levelech), sledovat lze zde: 
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/releases . Poslední 
verze změnila mimo jiné barvu křoví a chatových oblastí.


Jirka Komárek

On 09. 01. 19 15:49, Milan Cerny wrote:

Bota nalezena, higway -> higHway :)  Našlo to tři relace, všechny opraveny.

I tak mám pocit že je nějaké změna renderu Mapniku. Něco se zobrazuje jinak, 
třeba křoví bylo světle zelené, teď je spíš do hněda.
Možná je to jedna z příčin chybného vykreslení.

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Komu: "OpenStreetMap Czech Republic" 
Datum: 09.01.2019 15:11
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Mariáne, asi tam nějakou botu máš :) Další relace, Davidova NS, kolem stejného 
rybníka to má taky. Jako plocha se nevykresluje.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7789724/history

Milan

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"Ahoj,

problém byl v relaci naučné stezky, co vede okolo a měla v sobě
highway=track (odstranil jsem). Stejně jako z Ptačí NS, která je
jihozápadně od tohoto místa (vede přes Dobrou Vodu). Asi by to chtělo
zkontrolovat okolo, jestli jich tam není víc, případně vytvořit querry
přes overpass (teď na to nemám čas, ujme se toho někdo jiný?)
"



Pokud tam nemám žádnou botu, tak jsem nenašel jinou relaci s higway=track.
Takže by to mohlo být OK.





/*
This has been generated by the overpass-turbo wizard.
The original search was:
“higway=track in czechia”
*/
[out:json][timeout:60];
// fetch area “czechia” to search in
{{geocodeArea:czechia}}->.searchArea;
// gather results
(
   // query part for: “higway=track”
   relation["higway"="track"](area.searchArea);
);
// print results
out body;

;

out skel qt;




Marián



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On 09. 01. 19 12:14, Michal Poupa wrote:

Dobrý den
tady by měl být rybník - "Blažejský rybník"
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/49.9983/13.0236

je tam hnědý flek .. v editoru je rybník moc nechápu kde se ta hnědá
skvrna bere ...

díky

Michal

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Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[majka]

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 15:47, majka  wrote:

> Může někdo kouknout, jestli jsou správně ty relace autobusových zastávek,
> co to taky vyhazuje?
>
A odpovím si sama, dobře to není, changeset
nechvalně známého mapera,
který netušil, co dělá.
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Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[Milan Cerny]

Bota nalezena, higway -> higHway :)  Našlo to tři relace, všechny opraveny.

I tak mám pocit že je nějaké změna renderu Mapniku. Něco se zobrazuje jinak, 
třeba křoví bylo světle zelené, teď je spíš do hněda.
Možná je to jedna z příčin chybného vykreslení.

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> Komu: "OpenStreetMap Czech Republic" 
> Datum: 09.01.2019 15:11
> Předmět: Re: [talk-cz]Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník
>
>Mariáne, asi tam nějakou botu máš :) Další relace, Davidova NS, kolem stejného 
>rybníka to má taky. Jako plocha se nevykresluje. 
>https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7789724/history
>
>Milan
>
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>> Komu: "OpenStreetMap Czech Republic" 
>> Datum: 09.01.2019 12:40
>> Předmět: Re: [talk-cz]   Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník
>>
>>
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>>Datum: 9. 1. 2019 12:26:31
>>Předmět: Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník
>>"Ahoj,
>>
>>problém byl v relaci naučné stezky, co vede okolo a měla v sobě
>>highway=track (odstranil jsem). Stejně jako z Ptačí NS, která je
>>jihozápadně od tohoto místa (vede přes Dobrou Vodu). Asi by to chtělo
>>zkontrolovat okolo, jestli jich tam není víc, případně vytvořit querry
>>přes overpass (teď na to nemám čas, ujme se toho někdo jiný?)
>>"
>>
>>
>>
>>Pokud tam nemám žádnou botu, tak jsem nenašel jinou relaci s higway=track.
>>Takže by to mohlo být OK.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>/*
>>This has been generated by the overpass-turbo wizard.
>>The original search was:
>>“higway=track in czechia”
>>*/
>>[out:json][timeout:60];
>>// fetch area “czechia” to search in
>>{{geocodeArea:czechia}}->.searchArea;
>>// gather results
>>(
>>  // query part for: “higway=track”
>>  relation["higway"="track"](area.searchArea);
>>);
>>// print results
>>out body;
>>>;
>>out skel qt;
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Marián
>>
>>
>>
>>"
>>Jirka Komárek
>>
>>On 09. 01. 19 12:14, Michal Poupa wrote:
>>> Dobrý den
>>> tady by měl být rybník - "Blažejský rybník"
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/49.9983/13.0236
>>>
>>> je tam hnědý flek .. v editoru je rybník moc nechápu kde se ta hnědá
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Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[majka]

Tak ještě úprava toho dotazu zde .
Může někdo kouknout, jestli jsou správně ty relace autobusových zastávek,
co to taky vyhazuje?
A minimálně dvě dálnice také neodpovídají tomu co je psáno ve wiki, tedy že
highway by nemělo být na relaci.
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Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[majka]

Je toho spousta , jen ty ostatní patrně
nedělají uzavřené cesty (tj. netváří se to jako area).

Ten dotaz je obecný na relace se značkou highway a vyhozené jsou ty
pedestrian, i když podle mě i tam to může být blbě. Jen jsem v tom dotazu
nezkoumala, jak vyhodit typ relace multipolygon, obešla jsem to tím typem
cesty.

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Re: [Talk-dk] Nordøstgrønland - kvalificeret hjælp søges

[Niels Elgaard Larsen]

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 15:00:14 +0100
Anders Hedelund  wrote:

> Jeg har udsorteret og kategoriseret ca 4500 punkter fra
> Nordøstgrønland 


Hvad format er det i nu? Og hvor præcise, pålidelige er data?

Du kunne overveje at fordele det i JSON-filer med nogle hundrede
punkter i hver og så importere dem i JSON og uploade dem derfra.

Jeg ved ikke hvor gode luftfotos af Nordøstgrønland er, men måske giver
det mening at checke fx placeringen af bjergtinder manuelt.

> - stationer, hytter, bjergtoppe, fjorde osv. fra GEUS-oversigt. Dér
> kan man downloade til regneark, men data lider af, at de
> grundlæggende er POIer: Navn med koordinater, mens typen og f.eks.
> højden af bjergtinder står i tekstfelt. Dette har jeg uddraget og
> normaliseret.
> 
> Jeg har også fra GEUS - mod kildeangivelse - fået lov til at
> importere hele baduljen til OSM.
> 
> Men jeg vil ikke gøre det selv, for sådant har jeg aldrig prøvet.
> 
> Min OSM baggrund er i det væsentlige kortlægning af en enkelt kommune
> i Tyrkiet - Måske 1000 km gennemkørt, GPS-spor gemt, moskeer, skoler
> og andet fundet,  og landsbyskilte noteret. Derfra håndredigering.
> 
> Lige nu går trykning af papirkort i gang.
> 
> Men bulk-import vil jeg helst ikke røre ved, specielt da det bør være
> en éngangsforeteelse. Hvem melder sig frivilligt?
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BANO

[Vincent de Château-Thierry]

Bonjour,

> De: "deuzeffe" 
> 
> D'autre part, attention, puisqu'il n'y a pas toutes les adresses dans
> le cadastres vectoriel, le jeu d'adresse qui en est extrait est...
> incomplet, la BAN étant alimentée par plusieurs sources (communes, la
> poste, ign, & so on ; pour plus d'info, demander au coordonnateur du
> projet ^^)

Sur le principe, les adresses issues du cadastre dans BANO sont limitées à 
celles des communes dont le cadastre est vectoriel.

> Le 09/01/2019 à 07:28, deuzeffe a écrit :
> > Le 09/01/2019 à 01:37, Jérôme Amagat a écrit :
> >> J'ai vu que les adresses du cadastre de octobre 2018 sont en open
> >> data sur data.gouv.fr  :
> >> https://www.data.gouv.fr/fr/datasets/adresses-extraites-du-cadastre/
> >>
> >> De quand date celles dans la BANO et son rendu?
> >> Il me semble qu"elles commencent à dater, non?

Les adresses extraites du cadastre et disponibles sur data.gouv.fr sont en 
cours d'intégration dans BANO, en remplacement de celles qu'on récupérait 
jusqu'alors auprès de la DGFiP via les documents PDFs scrapés et parsés. 
L'intégration se fait dans une démarche plus globale de grosse mise à jour de 
BANO, sur laquelle je travaille avec Yohan (@informagicien). Quand la bascule 
sera faite en production sur cette nouvelle source, la première annonce sera 
pour talk-fr évidemment.

> >> Pareil pour la base fantoir accessible par ici
> >> http://cadastre.openstreetmap.fr/
> > 
> > Fantoir (l'officiel d'octobre 2018) n'est de toute façon pas à jour
> > de base. En revanche, il y a effectivement un souci avec "notre"
> > Fantoir.
> > Vincent (dct) est en train de remettre le chantier en ordre (si
> > j'ai bien tout suivi).

La base FANTOIR connue de BANO est de début 2016. Dans le travail de refonte on 
intègre évidemment la dernière version de FANTOIR. Plus généralement, cette 
refonte vise à rendre la collaboration autour du code de BANO plus simple à 
l'avenir.

> >> d’ailler sur cette page http://cadastre.openstreetmap.fr/
> >> ça serait peut être plus logique d'aller chercher le bâti là :
> >> https://www.data.gouv.fr/fr/datasets/cadastre/
> > 
> > Pour extraire le bâti (ou les adresses), la génération se fait à
> > partir du cadastre en flux à jour. Donc, si ça ne te semble pas à jour, tu
> > connais la réponse ;)

Oui il faudrait aussi modifier la manière d'accéder au bâti du cadastre. Il y a 
eu pour cela des travaux amorcés côté JOSM, je suppose que Vincent (Privat) 
saura nous en dire plus le moment venu ;)

Je profite de ce message pour indiquer ici des discussions publiques autour de 
la BAN, lisibles à : https://georezo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=315286#p315286 
(et messages suivants). L'association OSM France est une des 4 entités à 
l'origine de cette BAN, avec Etalab, La Poste et l'IGN, et ce suite au 
lancement de BANO mi 2014. Le projet BAN  avance malheureusement de manière 
chaotique et les adresses publiées à 
https://www.data.gouv.fr/fr/datasets/adresses-extraites-du-cadastre/ sont une 
action très concrète pour que l'accès aux données d'adresses continue de se 
démocratiser, avec ou sans BAN. Cette publication est tout à fait en phase avec 
la démarche initiale de BANO. Que BANO à court terme s'appuie sur ces adresses 
est en soi cohérent.

A suivre :)

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Re: [talk-cz] [Talk-cz] Problém s podklady IRP

[Pavel Zbytovský]

Ahoj,

tak jsem to fixnul. Zdá se že IPR jednak změnilo URL svého arcgisu a
zadruhé zakázalo službu WmsServer. Tak jsem to předělal a využívám službu
ImageServer, viz: https://osm.zby.cz/tiles_ipr_last.php

Do diskuse jsem dal echo.

btw, když něco nefunguje, prosím klidně přímý mail na mou adresu. Tu
konferenci číst nestíhám, tak čtu jen občas a jen něco.

P.

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 11:57 AM Marián Kyral  wrote:

> Ahoj,
> zby-cz se k tomu o vánocích nedostal a teď je pro změnu někde na lyžích.
> Zkusím jej popostrčit až se vrátí.
>
> Marián
>
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> Datum: 8. 1. 2019 3:01:49
> Předmět: Re: [talk-cz] [Talk-cz] Problém s podklady IRP
>
> Zdravim,
>
> Jenom pripominam ze IPR low-vegetation mirror stale nefunguje...
>
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Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[Milan Cerny]

Mariáne, asi tam nějakou botu máš :) Další relace, Davidova NS, kolem stejného 
rybníka to má taky. Jako plocha se nevykresluje. 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7789724/history

Milan

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>
>
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>Od: xkomc...@centrum.cz 
>Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
>Datum: 9. 1. 2019 12:26:31
>Předmět: Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník
>"Ahoj,
>
>problém byl v relaci naučné stezky, co vede okolo a měla v sobě
>highway=track (odstranil jsem). Stejně jako z Ptačí NS, která je
>jihozápadně od tohoto místa (vede přes Dobrou Vodu). Asi by to chtělo
>zkontrolovat okolo, jestli jich tam není víc, případně vytvořit querry
>přes overpass (teď na to nemám čas, ujme se toho někdo jiný?)
>"
>
>
>
>Pokud tam nemám žádnou botu, tak jsem nenašel jinou relaci s higway=track.
>Takže by to mohlo být OK.
>
>
>
>
>
>/*
>This has been generated by the overpass-turbo wizard.
>The original search was:
>“higway=track in czechia”
>*/
>[out:json][timeout:60];
>// fetch area “czechia” to search in
>{{geocodeArea:czechia}}->.searchArea;
>// gather results
>(
>  // query part for: “higway=track”
>  relation["higway"="track"](area.searchArea);
>);
>// print results
>out body;
>>;
>out skel qt;
>
>
>
>
>Marián
>
>
>
>"
>Jirka Komárek
>
>On 09. 01. 19 12:14, Michal Poupa wrote:
>> Dobrý den
>> tady by měl být rybník - "Blažejský rybník"
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/49.9983/13.0236
>>
>> je tam hnědý flek .. v editoru je rybník moc nechápu kde se ta hnědá
>> skvrna bere ...
>>
>> díky
>>
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[Talk-dk] Nordøstgrønland - kvalificeret hjælp søges

[Anders Hedelund]

Jeg har udsorteret og kategoriseret ca 4500 punkter fra Nordøstgrønland 
- stationer, hytter, bjergtoppe, fjorde osv. fra GEUS-oversigt. Dér kan 
man downloade til regneark, men data lider af, at de grundlæggende er 
POIer: Navn med koordinater, mens typen og f.eks. højden af bjergtinder 
står i tekstfelt. Dette har jeg uddraget og normaliseret.


Jeg har også fra GEUS - mod kildeangivelse - fået lov til at importere 
hele baduljen til OSM.


Men jeg vil ikke gøre det selv, for sådant har jeg aldrig prøvet.

Min OSM baggrund er i det væsentlige kortlægning af en enkelt kommune i 
Tyrkiet - Måske 1000 km gennemkørt, GPS-spor gemt, moskeer, skoler og 
andet fundet,  og landsbyskilte noteret. Derfra håndredigering.


Lige nu går trykning af papirkort i gang.

Men bulk-import vil jeg helst ikke røre ved, specielt da det bør være en 
éngangsforeteelse. Hvem melder sig frivilligt?


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Re: [Talk-it] Ricariche telefoniche

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Am Mi., 9. Jan. 2019 um 11:43 Uhr schrieb Daniele Santini <
danysa...@gmail.com>:

> Resuscito questo thread per segnalare che è in votazione la proposta di
> tag che permetterebbe di mappare (tra le altre cose) i negozi che vendono
> le ricariche telefoniche:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Top_up
>



per me nell'ultima variante non funziona più. Come potrei taggare che un
distributore mi fa ricaricare sia la prepagata di biglietti di trasporto
pubblico per BVG nonchè anche ricaricare le prepagate dei cellulari di
BRAND1 e BRAND2?

Ciao,
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Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

[Andy Robinson]

Tom, Jerry, Chris thanks for the very helpful prompts.

 

Cheers

Andy

 

From: Chris Hill [mailto:o...@raggedred.net] 
Sent: 09 January 2019 12:37
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

 

Here's one of Jerry's blog posts about the not-so-open Land Registry data:

https://sk53-osm.blogspot.com/2013/10/not-very-inspired-land-registry-open.html

and my post about testing using them:

https://chris-osm.blogspot.com/2013/10/land-registry-inspire-polygons.html

As Tom says, these datasets are not Open Data and we cannot use them as a data 
source in OSM. I feel that the Open Government Licence should not be used in 
this case as it isn't  Open.

 

On 09/01/2019 11:47, SK53 wrote:

Hi Andy,

 

Both Chris Hill & I blogged about them at the time, but they NEVER had any 
semblance of being open data.

 

The same proved to be true of the Land Registry Prices Paid which now can only 
be used if you are an estate agent.

 

Owen has covered both on his Map Gubbins blog.

 

Have to dash, so no time to find the links.

 

Jerry

 

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 11:07, Andy Robinson  wrote:

As a follow-up, has anyone looked at the OGL licenced INSPIRE Land Registry 
index polygons?
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/download-inspire-index-polygons

Data is in GML format.

Cheers
Andy

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From: Andy Robinson [mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 09 January 2019 10:56
To: 'David Woolley'; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Property extents

On Wed 09/01/2019 10:35 David Woolley wrote:
>Actually, that seems more valuable to OSM than the building 
>outlines as it is much more difficult to accurately recover from 
>aerial imagery and ground surveys can normally only see front yards.

Agreed, though I wonder whether this will have any correlation with Land 
Registry. I'm guessing .gov isn’t that joined up.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

[Chris Hill]

Here's one of Jerry's blog posts about the not-so-open Land Registry data:

https://sk53-osm.blogspot.com/2013/10/not-very-inspired-land-registry-open.html

and my post about testing using them:

https://chris-osm.blogspot.com/2013/10/land-registry-inspire-polygons.html

As Tom says, these datasets are not Open Data and we cannot use them as 
a data source in OSM. I feel that the Open Government Licence should not 
be used in this case as it isn't  Open.



On 09/01/2019 11:47, SK53 wrote:

Hi Andy,

Both Chris Hill & I blogged about them at the time, but they NEVER had 
any semblance of being open data.


The same proved to be true of the Land Registry Prices Paid which now 
can only be used if you are an estate agent.


Owen has covered both on his Map Gubbins blog.

Have to dash, so no time to find the links.

Jerry

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 11:07, Andy Robinson > wrote:


As a follow-up, has anyone looked at the OGL licenced INSPIRE Land
Registry index polygons?
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/download-inspire-index-polygons

Data is in GML format.

Cheers
Andy

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From: Andy Robinson [mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com
]
Sent: 09 January 2019 10:56
To: 'David Woolley'; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org

Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Property extents

On Wed 09/01/2019 10:35 David Woolley wrote:
>Actually, that seems more valuable to OSM than the building
>outlines as it is much more difficult to accurately recover from
>aerial imagery and ground surveys can normally only see front yards.

Agreed, though I wonder whether this will have any correlation
with Land Registry. I'm guessing .gov isn’t that joined up.

Cheers
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[OSM-talk-fr] Stage OSM/webdev + service civique à CartONG

[Martin Noblecourt]

Bonjour à tous,

CartONG cherche actuellement un stagiaire autour de l'utilisation de 
données & tuiles OSM, donc un mélange de webSIG et d'OpenStreetMap : 
http://cartong.org/stagiaire-webmapping-openstreetmap-hf


Un stage assez technique mais passionnant en perspective :-) (basé au 
siège à Chambéry)


Par ailleurs nous cherchons également un service civique animateur 
Missing Maps pour début février : 
https://www.service-civique.gouv.fr/missions/cartographie-participative-humanitaire-vectrice-de-lien-social-4


Je ne poste pas nos offres de service civique systématiquement ici pour 
ne pas spammer la liste mais si vous connaissez des jeunes de 25 ans 
max. qui seraient intéressés par des missions de 6 à 8 mois autour de 
l'animation de notre réseau de bénévole et la sensibilisation OSM, nous 
en accueillons maintenant régulièrement (nouvelles ouvertures tous les 4 
mois environ). Le contenu de la mission est flexible en fonction des 
profils, plus ou moins technique, pour des jeunes sans formation en SIG 
ou informatique c'est une belle opportunité de se former à OSM et de 
découvrir la cartographie !


Enfin, j'en profite pour signaler que nous cherchons aussi responsable 
de bases de données (CDD) et un stagiaire cartographe, vous retrouverez 
les offres sur notre site. http://cartong.org/fr/nous-rejoindre


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Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[majka]

Jen přemýšlím, jestli to není chyba vykreslovače i přesto, že to na té
relaci bylo špatně. Co vím, jediná plocha "highway" je pedestrian,
tedy náměstí, ostatní plochy jsou řešené jako area:highway.

Majka

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Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

[SK53]

Hi Andy,

Both Chris Hill & I blogged about them at the time, but they NEVER had any
semblance of being open data.

The same proved to be true of the Land Registry Prices Paid which now can
only be used if you are an estate agent.

Owen has covered both on his Map Gubbins blog.

Have to dash, so no time to find the links.

Jerry

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 11:07, Andy Robinson  wrote:

> As a follow-up, has anyone looked at the OGL licenced INSPIRE Land
> Registry index polygons?
> https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/download-inspire-index-polygons
>
> Data is in GML format.
>
> Cheers
> Andy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Robinson [mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 09 January 2019 10:56
> To: 'David Woolley'; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Property extents
>
> On Wed 09/01/2019 10:35 David Woolley wrote:
> >Actually, that seems more valuable to OSM than the building
> >outlines as it is much more difficult to accurately recover from
> >aerial imagery and ground surveys can normally only see front yards.
>
> Agreed, though I wonder whether this will have any correlation with Land
> Registry. I'm guessing .gov isn’t that joined up.
>
> Cheers
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Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[Marián Kyral]

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Datum: 9. 1. 2019 12:26:31
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"Ahoj,

problém byl v relaci naučné stezky, co vede okolo a měla v sobě
highway=track (odstranil jsem). Stejně jako z Ptačí NS, která je
jihozápadně od tohoto místa (vede přes Dobrou Vodu). Asi by to chtělo
zkontrolovat okolo, jestli jich tam není víc, případně vytvořit querry
přes overpass (teď na to nemám čas, ujme se toho někdo jiný?)
"



Pokud tam nemám žádnou botu, tak jsem nenašel jinou relaci s higway=track.
Takže by to mohlo být OK.





/*
This has been generated by the overpass-turbo wizard.
The original search was:
“higway=track in czechia”
*/
[out:json][timeout:60];
// fetch area “czechia” to search in
{{geocodeArea:czechia}}->.searchArea;
// gather results
(
  // query part for: “higway=track”
  relation["higway"="track"](area.searchArea);
);
// print results
out body;
>;
out skel qt;




Marián



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> Dobrý den
> tady by měl být rybník - "Blažejský rybník"
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/49.9983/13.0236
>
> je tam hnědý flek .. v editoru je rybník moc nechápu kde se ta hnědá
> skvrna bere ...
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Vitesses maximales autorisées sur route

[marc marc]

Le 09.01.19 à 12:23, Gwenaël Jouvin a écrit :
> question plus générale, comment fonctionne cette relation

a ma connaissance aucun outil "important" ne l'utilise et aucune le dit 
le faire dans taginfo :
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/relations/defaults#projects

chaque routeur fait sa propre roue pour trouver les bonnes valeurs 
(certains analyse la page du wiki, d'autres doivent sûrement avoir qlq 
qui le fait à la main).

L'idée est bonne mais il manque la finition.
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Re: [talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[Martin Ždila]

Podla historie relacie na nej bolo highay=track, cuoje uz ale opravene.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7789722/history

Takze ta skvrna tam je koli tomu, ze to este nie je prerenderovane.

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:15 PM Michal Poupa  wrote:

> Dobrý den
> tady by měl být rybník - "Blažejský rybník"
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/49.9983/13.0236
>
> je tam hnědý flek .. v editoru je rybník moc nechápu kde se ta hnědá
> skvrna bere ...
>
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[xkomc...@centrum.cz]

Ahoj,

problém byl v relaci naučné stezky, co vede okolo a měla v sobě 
highway=track (odstranil jsem). Stejně jako z Ptačí NS, která je 
jihozápadně od tohoto místa (vede přes Dobrou Vodu). Asi by to chtělo 
zkontrolovat okolo, jestli jich tam není víc, případně vytvořit querry 
přes overpass (teď na to nemám čas, ujme se toho někdo jiný?)


Jirka Komárek

On 09. 01. 19 12:14, Michal Poupa wrote:

Dobrý den
tady by měl být rybník - "Blažejský rybník"
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/49.9983/13.0236

je tam hnědý flek .. v editoru je rybník moc nechápu kde se ta hnědá
skvrna bere ...

díky

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[OSM-talk-fr] Vitesses maximales autorisées sur route

[Gwenaël Jouvin]

Bonjour,

Au détour du wiki, je découvre la relation précisant les diverses limitations 
de vitesse en vigueur en France : https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/934933
Je crois donc comprendre que ces valeurs étant définies par défaut, il n’est 
pas utile de préciser maxspeed ni maxspeed:type lorsque la limitation 
correspond à ces valeurs par défaut.

— on remarque cependant que Fr:rural est toujours fixé à 90 km/h, ne 
faudrait-il pas la mettre à jour étant donné que la proportion de routes 
restant à 90 km/h devient minoritaire* ?

— question plus générale, comment fonctionne cette relation, est-elle prise en 
compte par les applications lorsque l’on met un tag maxspeed=FR:urban ?


Gwenaël


* Décret 2018-487 abaissant la V.M.A à 80 km/h sur les routes bidirectionnelles 
: https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/jo_pdf.do?id=JORFTEXT37076517

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Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

[Tom Hughes]

DO NOT USE THIS.

You need to read the license properly, and especially the linked
document with "third party conditions" from OS that has all sorts
of unacceptable restrictions:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/inspire-index-polygons-spatial-data#conditions-of-use
https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/about/governance/policies/inspire-index-polygons-licensing-terms.html

I imagine the upcoming hopefully properly free data will basically
be the same though.

Tom

On 09/01/2019 11:06, Andy Robinson wrote:

As a follow-up, has anyone looked at the OGL licenced INSPIRE Land Registry 
index polygons?
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/download-inspire-index-polygons

Data is in GML format.

Cheers
Andy

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From: Andy Robinson [mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com]
Sent: 09 January 2019 10:56
To: 'David Woolley'; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Property extents

On Wed 09/01/2019 10:35 David Woolley wrote:

Actually, that seems more valuable to OSM than the building
outlines as it is much more difficult to accurately recover from
aerial imagery and ground surveys can normally only see front yards.


Agreed, though I wonder whether this will have any correlation with Land 
Registry. I'm guessing .gov isn’t that joined up.

Cheers
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Re: [Talk-es] Importación del Catastro de Benlloc

[dcapillae]

Gracias, Jordi.

He anotado el proyecto de Benlloc en la tabla de resultados [1]. Recuerda
cambiarle el estado a «Validado» o «Terminado» conforme el proyecto avance,
así como anotar la fecha de finalización una vez esté completado.

He aprovechado la ocasión para crear una página en el wiki para el municipio
de Benlloc [2]. También he creado otra para la provincia de Castellón [3],
por si necesitas un espacio propio donde anotar los progresos de mapeo en la
región. Voy a crear otras dos páginas para las provincias de Valencia y
Alicante, que todavía no existen en el wiki.

Buen trabajo. Intentaré echar una mano en lo que pueda.

[1]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Catastro_espa%C3%B1ol/Importaci%C3%B3n_de_edificios/Resultados
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Benlloc
[3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Provincia_de_Castell%C3%B3n






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Re: [Talk-is] Data improvements in Iceland

[Morten Lange]

I agree with Jóhannes that what you propose sounds useul.
Additionally perhaps OSM editors could be granted permission to copy paths by 
hand from ja.is   
Paths that are on the maps of ja.is, but are missing on OSM.
This could be done the other way around as well, provided OSM is credited I 
guess. -- Regards / Kveðja / Hilsen Morten Lange

  From: Jóhannes Birgir Jensson 
 To: OpenStreetMap in Iceland  
 Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2019, 12:54
 Subject: Re: [Talk-is] Data improvements in Iceland
   
This sounds very useful Matt.

I have previously approached ja.is about the 360 imagery on behalf of 
OpenStreetMap á Íslandi and a permission to use it as a data source. The reply 
in 2018 was "not for now - maybe later" so if this is later then it would be 
great.

The GPS traces would be very nice too.

Regarding using LUKR as a source then be advised it is not 100% correct - it 
contains a number of ghost buildings for example (where a zone has been 
approved for a building but it hasn't been built yet). For example in my 
previous residence I had a license to build a garage (with other residents) and 
on LUKR the garage was already built while it still has not moved off the 
drawing board for 20 years.

--JBJ

8. janúar 2019 kl. 11:30, skrifaði "Matt Riggott" :

>> On 5 Jan 2019, at 11:14, Morten Lange  wrote:
>> 
>> It would be great if paths found on ja.is maps could be freely used on 
>> OpenStreetMap, and the other
>> way around. I guess that depends on licensing clauses.
> 
> Hi Morten,
> 
> I agree, it'd be really nice to have that, but you're right to think the 
> licence is too
> prohibitive. The map tiles are produced by Samsýn and they're quite strict on 
> what we can do with
> them. Besides that, the tiles are projected using ISN 93, so using them as an 
> OpenStreetMap layer
> would cause alignment problems.
> 
> But I can think of some ways Já could help OpenStreetMap. First, I could ask 
> for Já to give
> OpenStreetMap explicit permission to use the Já 360 street view photos as a 
> data source. Second, we
> have GPS coordinates from the car that drove around the country taking the Já 
> 360 photos; I could
> ask to be able to publish the GPS data under a permissive licence.
> 
> If any of that sounds useful, let me know.
> 
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[talk-cz] Pomoc s editací - Blažejský rybník

[Michal Poupa]

Dobrý den
tady by měl být rybník - "Blažejský rybník"
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/49.9983/13.0236

je tam hnědý flek .. v editoru je rybník moc nechápu kde se ta hnědá
skvrna bere ...

díky

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Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

[Andy Robinson]

As a follow-up, has anyone looked at the OGL licenced INSPIRE Land Registry 
index polygons?
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/download-inspire-index-polygons

Data is in GML format.

Cheers
Andy

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Sent: 09 January 2019 10:56
To: 'David Woolley'; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Property extents

On Wed 09/01/2019 10:35 David Woolley wrote:
>Actually, that seems more valuable to OSM than the building 
>outlines as it is much more difficult to accurately recover from 
>aerial imagery and ground surveys can normally only see front yards.

Agreed, though I wonder whether this will have any correlation with Land 
Registry. I'm guessing .gov isn’t that joined up.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

[Andy Robinson]

On Wed 09/01/2019 10:35 David Woolley wrote:
>Actually, that seems more valuable to OSM than the building 
>outlines as it is much more difficult to accurately recover from 
>aerial imagery and ground surveys can normally only see front yards.

Agreed, though I wonder whether this will have any correlation with Land 
Registry. I'm guessing .gov isn’t that joined up.

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Re: [talk-cz] [Talk-cz] Problém s podklady IRP

[Marián Kyral]

Ahoj,

zby-cz se k tomu o vánocích nedostal a teď je pro změnu někde na lyžích.
Zkusím jej popostrčit až se vrátí.




Marián



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"Zdravim,

Jenom pripominam ze IPR low-vegetation mirror stale nefunguje...

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Re: [Talk-it] Ricariche telefoniche

[Daniele Santini]

Resuscito questo thread per segnalare che è in votazione la proposta di tag
che permetterebbe di mappare (tra le altre cose) i negozi che vendono le
ricariche telefoniche:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Top_up

Il giorno mer 26 dic 2018 alle ore 11:43 
ha scritto:

>
> Per le macchinette automatiche (amenity=vending_machine) puoi usare
> vending=telephone_vouchers [1]. Per bar e tabaccherie mi sembra che non sia
> ancora stato proposto un tag del genere,
> Buon Natale!
>
> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:vending%3Dtelephone_vouchers
>
> Il giorno mar 25 dic 2018 alle ore 13:02 <
> talk-it-requ...@openstreetmap.org>
> ha scritto:
>
> > Invia le richieste di iscrizione alla lista Talk-it all'indirizzo
> > talk-it@openstreetmap.org
> >
> > Per iscriverti o cancellarti attraverso il web, visita
> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
> > oppure, via email, manda un messaggio con oggetto `help' all'indirizzo
> > talk-it-requ...@openstreetmap.org
> >
> > Puoi contattare la persona che gestisce la lista all'indirizzo
> > talk-it-ow...@openstreetmap.org
> >
> > Se rispondi a questo messaggio, per favore edita la linea dell'oggetto
> > in modo che sia più utile di un semplice "Re: Contenuti del digest
> > della lista Talk-it..."
> >
> >
> > Argomenti del Giorno:
> >
> >1. Ricariche telefoniche (Damjan Gerl)
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:33:52 +0100
> > From: Damjan Gerl 
> > To: OpenStreetMap List-It 
> > Subject: [Talk-it] Ricariche telefoniche
> > Message-ID: 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > Ciao!
> > Come posso segnalare che un bar o altro amenity vende delle ricariche
> > telefoniche?
> > E ricariche paypal?
> >
> > Ho cercato in wiki e taginfo ma non ho trovato niente.
> >
> >
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Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

[David Woolley]

On 09/01/2019 09:36, Rob Nickerson wrote:
It is the land area (e.g. garden boundary of a detached house) rather 
than the building outline. They deem the building outline to have too 
high a commercial value under their current funding mechanism.


Actually, that seems more valuable to OSM than the building outlines as 
it is much more difficult to accurately recover from aerial imagery and 
ground surveys can normally only see front yards.


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Re: [Talk-it] Posti auto per disabili.

[Daniele Santini]

> Parzialmente offtopic: ma dove si trovano immagini satellitari cosi high
> res da mappare i singoli spazi per parcheggiare?
>
Le immagini satellitare di Bologna sono abbastanza nitide da vedere i posti
auto, per esempio
https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=21/44.49211/11.36346  o
https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=21/44.49089/11.33010 .
Comunque IMHO quando si mappano i posti auto bisognerebbe averli prima
controllati sul posto.


PS: per coincidenza sulla mailing list Tagging si è parlato di come mappare
i posti per disabili proprio pochi giorni fa:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-January/041815.html
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Re: [Talk-de] Attribut für die Europachausee in Halle (Saale)

[Georg Feddern]

Moin,

Am 08.01.2019 um 19:46 schrieb Heinz-Jürgen Oertel:

Am Dienstag, 8. Januar 2019, 19:13:43 CET schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:

Am Di., 8. Jan. 2019 um 16:00 Uhr schrieb Heinz-Jürgen Oertel <

hj.oer...@t-online.de>:

Dass ein trunk am Anfang und Ende zur secondary wird, halte ich
aber auch für komisch, vielleicht primary?

primary: "Hauptverbindungsstraße unter zentraler Verwaltung , meist mit
besonderer Kennzeichnung (D: Nummer oberhalb der Vorfahrtsschilder), die
meist
größere Städte verbindet und dem überregionalen Verkehr dient."
trifft es auch nicht.

Ein Punkt am südlichen Beginn:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1231139671

doch, das könnte es schon treffen, das südliche Stück bis zur B91 könnte
man primary setzen, und wahrscheinlich auch im Norden bis zur B100 hier:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/275346451

Gruß,
Martin

Martin, aber: "Hauptverbindungsstraße unter zentraler Verwaltung..:"
es ist eine städtische Straße.
Danke Allen für Hinweise.
Ich werde die gesamte Umgehung mal auf highway=trunk setzen.
Falls noch eindeutige Argumente für oder wider kommen, ist ja schnell
geändert. Jedenfalls denke ich, sollte der gesamte Verlauf einheitlich sein.


Hier sehe ich es wie Martin:
Ein Mischmasch macht auf diesen doch relativ kurzen 3 Teilstücken keinen 
rechten Sinn, erst recht nicht als secondary und trunk.
Aber sowohl nördlicher wie südlicher Teil enthalten viel zuviele 
Kreuzungen und Ampeln, als dass man sie als trunk taggen könnte, für 
trunk ist kreuzungs- und ampelfrei m. E. eine Voraussetzung.
Der mittlere Teil ist dann wiederum so kurz und ohne wirkliche 
Netz-Anbindung , dass sich dafür m. E. kein trunk mehr lohnt.
Ich würde daher die gesamte Strecke als primary taggen, dadurch ist sie 
ausreichend hoch eingestuft, um als Umgehung von/zur A 14 genutzt zu werden.


Grüße, Georg

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Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Hi-vis

[Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)]

On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 23:46, Rob Nickerson  wrote:
> OSM UK are now taking orders for high-vis vests. Show your support for 
> OpenStreetMap by ordering one or more today at:
>
> https://osmuk.org/product/osm-uk-hi-vis-vest/

Based on the sample you have, do you have any advice over the sizes?
Presumably most people will want their hi-viz to fit over a coat, so
should we go up a size from our normal? How does the (presumably)
chest size quoted related to the actual circumference of the jacket
when done up?

Thanks,

Robert.

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[Talk-GB] Property extents

[Rob Nickerson]

Hi all,

You may recall that the geospatial commission & ordnance survey have
announced that they will be releasing "property extents". By chance I found
myself in a meeting room with both organisations so I asked what "property
extents" means. It is the land area (e.g. garden boundary of a detached
house) rather than the building outline. They deem the building outline to
have too high a commercial value under their current funding mechanism.

I also found out that the commission received over 200 responses (202 I
think) hence the delay. They will be providing a summary of the responses.

Best regards,
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[Talk-it] Template per relazioni site

[Cascafico Giovanni]

Da qualche tempo in lista si chiedono chiarimenti su come mappare siti come
scuole, ospedali e (oggi) posti auto per disabili.

Per ragguppare oggetti che hanno affinità geometriche e funzionali c'è la
relation "site" [1] (proposed), la quale permette di mettere insieme membri
come multipoligoni, linee aperte e nodi un "sito".

Potremmo raccogliere le info in una pagina dedicata, che descriva
graficamente i vari siti così come è stato fatto per amenity=school [1].
Magari ispirandoci ad un'immagine come questa [2], che  credo chiarisca
rapidamente come fare.


[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dschool
[2]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/thumb/6/6d/Amenity_school_usage_example.svg/375px-Amenity_school_usage_example.svg.png
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Re: [Talk-it] Posti auto per disabili.

[Cascafico Giovanni]

In Friuli Venezia Giulia la protezione civile ha messo a disposizione delle
ottime ortofoto... a spanne risoluzione 20cm.

Il giorno mer 9 gen 2019 alle ore 09:36 Gabriele Sani <
gabryatfen...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Parzialmente offtopic: ma dove si trovano immagini satellitari cosi high
> res da mappare i singoli spazi per parcheggiare?
>
> Il giorno mer 9 gen 2019 alle ore 09:13 Alessandro Sarretta <
> alessandro.sarre...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> Ciao,
>>
>> anch'io in questi giorni sto testando la mappatura di parcheggi per
>> disabili.
>>
>> Oltre alle pagine del wiki già citate, ho considerato anche quanto
>> scritto qui
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking#Recommended_default_access_restrictions
>>
>> e qui applicato (ad es. qui https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/658664345)
>> questo schema:
>>
>> *access:disabled designated*
>> *access:role no*
>> *amenity parking_space*
>>
>> Con *access:role=no* si disabilità l'accesso a tutti, con
>> *access:disabled=designated* lo si abilita esplicitamente a disabled.
>>
>> Ho preferito *designated* a *yes* perché mi sembra più esplicito e
>> corretto.
>>
>> Mi manca da aggiungere in effetti la relazione citata da Andrea...
>>
>> Ale
>>
>>
>> On 09/01/19 08:53, Andrea Albani wrote:
>>
>> Qui [0] la proposta di schema approvata a cui fa riferimento l'esempio di
>> Giovanni.
>> La regola vorrebbe che tutti gli elementi del parcheggio (es.
>> amenity=parking_space, amenity=parking, etc) siano messi in una relazione
>> type=site, site=parking. In fondo alla pagina trovi anche dei diagrammi che
>> spiega bene il concetto.
>> In [1] trovi la pagina del tag che presenta una piccola discrepanza con
>> quella di proposta perchè introduce un tag parking_space=disabled a mio
>> avviso superfluo rispetto al classico schema access:disabled=yes.
>>
>> Ciao
>>
>> [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking
>> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dparking_space
>>
>> Il giorno mer 9 gen 2019 alle ore 08:17 Giuseppe 
>> ha scritto:
>>
>>> Quando inserisco un parcheggio cerco sempre di compilare il tag
>>> capacity:disabled con il numero di stalli riservati ai disabili. Tuttavia,
>>> nei casi di parcheggi di grandi dimensioni, nel rendering non si riesce a
>>> capire la posizione dove sono ubicati questi stalli. Per ovviare al
>>> problema, qualche volta ho inserito, all’interno dell’area di parcheggio,
>>> un punto che individua la posizione degli stalli per disabili con i tag:
>>>
>>>
>>> amenity=parking
>>>
>>> capacity:disabled=*
>>>
>>>
>>> Non so se è la soluzione corretta, avete suggerimenti?
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Talk-it] Posti auto per disabili.

[Alessandro Sarretta]

Dipende dalle zone...

Nell'esempio da me citato qui sotto ad es. Esri World Imagery (Clarity) 
Beta ha un'ottima risoluzione che, accoppiata al fatto che sono aree che 
vado a controllare/mappare personalmente, mi permette di disegnare gli 
spazi con buona precisione.


Ale

On 09/01/19 09:35, Gabriele Sani wrote:
Parzialmente offtopic: ma dove si trovano immagini satellitari cosi 
high res da mappare i singoli spazi per parcheggiare?


Il giorno mer 9 gen 2019 alle ore 09:13 Alessandro Sarretta 
mailto:alessandro.sarre...@gmail.com>> 
ha scritto:


Ciao,

anch'io in questi giorni sto testando la mappatura di parcheggi
per disabili.

Oltre alle pagine del wiki già citate, ho considerato anche quanto
scritto qui

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking#Recommended_default_access_restrictions

e qui applicato (ad es. qui
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/658664345) questo schema:

/access:disabled     designated//
//access:role     no//
//amenity     parking_space/

Con /access:role=no/ si disabilità l'accesso a tutti, con
/access:disabled=designated/ lo si abilita esplicitamente a disabled.

Ho preferito /designated/ a /yes/ perché mi sembra più esplicito e
corretto.

Mi manca da aggiungere in effetti la relazione citata da Andrea...

Ale


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[OSM-ja] opening_hours の日本における祝日について

[surgical21]

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こんにちは。surgical21です。早速本題に入ります。

https://github.com/opening-hours/opening_hours.js/issues/278
において定義ファイルの追加を依頼していますが,
日本の祝日には2つはあらかじめ日付を指定されていないものがあります(i.e.
春分の日,
秋分の日)。その2つの祝日の扱いについての諸君の見識を伺いたいのでありますから,
GitHub上での議論に参加を要請いたします。

以上。

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Re: [Talk-it] Posti auto per disabili.

[Gabriele Sani]

Parzialmente offtopic: ma dove si trovano immagini satellitari cosi high
res da mappare i singoli spazi per parcheggiare?

Il giorno mer 9 gen 2019 alle ore 09:13 Alessandro Sarretta <
alessandro.sarre...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Ciao,
>
> anch'io in questi giorni sto testando la mappatura di parcheggi per
> disabili.
>
> Oltre alle pagine del wiki già citate, ho considerato anche quanto scritto
> qui
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking#Recommended_default_access_restrictions
>
> e qui applicato (ad es. qui https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/658664345)
> questo schema:
>
> *access:disabled designated*
> *access:role no*
> *amenity parking_space*
>
> Con *access:role=no* si disabilità l'accesso a tutti, con
> *access:disabled=designated* lo si abilita esplicitamente a disabled.
>
> Ho preferito *designated* a *yes* perché mi sembra più esplicito e
> corretto.
>
> Mi manca da aggiungere in effetti la relazione citata da Andrea...
>
> Ale
>
>
> On 09/01/19 08:53, Andrea Albani wrote:
>
> Qui [0] la proposta di schema approvata a cui fa riferimento l'esempio di
> Giovanni.
> La regola vorrebbe che tutti gli elementi del parcheggio (es.
> amenity=parking_space, amenity=parking, etc) siano messi in una relazione
> type=site, site=parking. In fondo alla pagina trovi anche dei diagrammi che
> spiega bene il concetto.
> In [1] trovi la pagina del tag che presenta una piccola discrepanza con
> quella di proposta perchè introduce un tag parking_space=disabled a mio
> avviso superfluo rispetto al classico schema access:disabled=yes.
>
> Ciao
>
> [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking
> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dparking_space
>
> Il giorno mer 9 gen 2019 alle ore 08:17 Giuseppe  ha
> scritto:
>
>> Quando inserisco un parcheggio cerco sempre di compilare il tag
>> capacity:disabled con il numero di stalli riservati ai disabili. Tuttavia,
>> nei casi di parcheggi di grandi dimensioni, nel rendering non si riesce a
>> capire la posizione dove sono ubicati questi stalli. Per ovviare al
>> problema, qualche volta ho inserito, all’interno dell’area di parcheggio,
>> un punto che individua la posizione degli stalli per disabili con i tag:
>>
>>
>> amenity=parking
>>
>> capacity:disabled=*
>>
>>
>> Non so se è la soluzione corretta, avete suggerimenti?
>>
>>
>> Giuseppe
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early Bird Tickets!

[Santens Seppe]

Cool idea, Marc!

Van: Marc Gemis [mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: dinsdag 8 januari 2019 20:32
Aan: OpenStreetMap Belgium
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Open Belgium 2019: Call for Speakers + Early 
Bird Tickets!

I cannot make it to Open Belgium, but I have been thinking about a "walking 
meetup" for some time now. So instead of sitting in a pub, doing a walk and 
talk about OSM and survey techniques and apply them.

Taking that idea, on a community day, it could be a workshop about surveying 
techniques, JOSM tips, micromapping, that kind of stuff. It would be an hand-on 
workshop, where people have to go outside for 15 minutes or so and collect 
data. Afterwards compare techniques, collected data and do a bit of mapping. 
Perhaps discuss a bit about usefulness, special maps, ...

m.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 1:46 PM Ben Abelshausen 
mailto:ben.abelshau...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi everyone!

In a few months we have Open Belgium again (yay!) and as usual we will have 
talks about OSM (Belgium).  We invite everyone to submit a talk, **anything** 
related to open-(something) is fine, that means openstreetmap too! ;-) We will 
also organize a community day during the weekend this year, more news about 
that later, so even if you can't make it on the 4th of march we urge you to 
submit talks/workshops anyway. We can move them to the community day later.

We will probably also have a booth with OSM Belgium and usually have a lot of 
fun so don't miss it! If you want to attend but find the entry tickets too 
expense get in touch with me, the community day will be free (to be announced 
later).

All details here:

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Re: [Talk-it] Posti auto per disabili.

[Alessandro Sarretta]

Ciao,

anch'io in questi giorni sto testando la mappatura di parcheggi per 
disabili.


Oltre alle pagine del wiki già citate, ho considerato anche quanto 
scritto qui 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking#Recommended_default_access_restrictions


e qui applicato (ad es. qui https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/658664345) 
questo schema:


/access:disabled     designated//
//access:role     no//
//amenity     parking_space/

Con /access:role=no/ si disabilità l'accesso a tutti, con 
/access:disabled=designated/ lo si abilita esplicitamente a disabled.


Ho preferito /designated/ a /yes/ perché mi sembra più esplicito e corretto.

Mi manca da aggiungere in effetti la relazione citata da Andrea...

Ale


On 09/01/19 08:53, Andrea Albani wrote:
Qui [0] la proposta di schema approvata a cui fa riferimento l'esempio 
di Giovanni.
La regola vorrebbe che tutti gli elementi del parcheggio (es. 
amenity=parking_space, amenity=parking, etc) siano messi in una 
relazione type=site, site=parking. In fondo alla pagina trovi anche 
dei diagrammi che spiega bene il concetto.
In [1] trovi la pagina del tag che presenta una piccola discrepanza 
con quella di proposta perchè introduce un tag parking_space=disabled 
a mio avviso superfluo rispetto al classico schema access:disabled=yes.


Ciao

[0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking
[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dparking_space

Il giorno mer 9 gen 2019 alle ore 08:17 Giuseppe > ha scritto:


Quando inserisco un parcheggio cerco sempre di compilare il tag
capacity:disabled con il numero di stalli riservati ai disabili.
Tuttavia, nei casi di parcheggi di grandi dimensioni, nel
rendering non si riesce a capire la posizione dove sono ubicati
questi stalli. Per ovviare al problema, qualche volta ho inserito,
all’interno dell’area di parcheggio, un punto che individua la
posizione degli stalli per disabili con i tag:


amenity=parking

capacity:disabled=*


Non so se è la soluzione corretta, avete suggerimenti?


Giuseppe

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