Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-06-11 Thread Simon Poole
Randy, I just want to point out that there is an existing and well established OSM-based service that already supplies worldwide boundaries in a number of formats https://osm.wno-edv-service.de/boundaries/ . Further the operator runs daily quality checks on changes in the boundaries. Simon Am

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-06-11 Thread Simon Poole
Am 11.06.2015 um 17:20 schrieb Randy Meech: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch mailto:si...@poole.ch wrote: I just want to point out that there is an existing and well established OSM-based service that already supplies worldwide boundaries in a number

Re: [OSM-talk] (licence of wikidata) was: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-06-07 Thread Simon Poole
the WMF, nor does the above touch on the ethical aspects of copying from a third party, potentially a competitor, without explicit permission and potentially in violation of contractual terms of use/service. Simon Am 07.06.2015 um 18:40 schrieb SomeoneElse: On 07/06/2015 12:43, Simon Poole wrote

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-06-07 Thread Simon Poole
Two remarks on the the discussion: - the standard point: adding translations of names to OSM is (naturally) nonsense, adding names commonly in use in a language for places isn't. I somehow suspect that Frederiks suggestion is actually an attempt to offload the dealing with the nonsense aspect to

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-06-07 Thread Simon Poole
Am 07.06.2015 um 14:12 schrieb Eugene Alvin Villar: .. So the advice of being wary of Wikidata's CC0 license should also be the same advice for OSM's ODbL license. The difference is that while we don't warrant that the OSM dataset is completely free of incompatible data, it is the intent

Re: [OSM-talk] (licence of wikidata) was: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-06-07 Thread Simon Poole
Am 07.06.2015 um 22:56 schrieb Christoph Hormann: ... *Individual* facts are never an issue, neither under copyright nor database rights, it only becomes a problem w.r.t. database rights once you systematically transfer data on a larger scale. In other words a single source=wikipedia is

Re: [OSM-talk] Neat use of OpenStreetMap

2015-05-28 Thread Simon Poole
It is not clear to me what isn't free about MLS, but in any case openbmap has been around for quite a while. The main issue with -all- of these alternative location services is that they currently can't be seamlessly be integrated in to mobile OSs without the cooperation of the manufacturers

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki link to Mailing lists and IRC on Get Help Page

2015-05-25 Thread Simon Poole
While not totally on topic, I would like to point out that the Help tab on openstreetmap.org contains direct links to the mailing lists, forums etc. (since a couple of weeks) making having them far up in the hierarchy on the wiki less of an issue. Simon Am 25.05.2015 um 15:30 schrieb Clifford

Re: [OSM-talk] Portal for users/casual mappers (Re: Tagging FOR the renderer)

2015-05-19 Thread Simon Poole
of arm chairing and mechanical edits for me. Yes there are a few mappers up there with the bots but I don't believe that they are particularly relevant. On 19. Mai 2015 01:57:31 MESZ, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote

Re: [OSM-talk] Portal for users/casual mappers (Re: Tagging FOR the renderer)

2015-05-18 Thread Simon Poole
Am 18.05.2015 um 15:18 schrieb Daniel Koć: ... The most of the work in OSM is done not by the few hundreds of advanced users, but by much more casual mappers. ... You must have misunderstood something there, the top 50'000 (roughly 10% of all) or so mappers have contributed

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging FOR the renderer

2015-05-17 Thread Simon Poole
Am 17.05.2015 um 21:36 schrieb Daniel Koć: . I also don't think we should let anybody do anything on default map, however the general idea is good if we split the problem: 1. We should have some tools to let people render their own style, no matter how crazy. It's possible of course from

[OSM-talk] Widespread (but oldish) wiki spamming needs fixing

2015-05-16 Thread Simon Poole
See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/BardicMa Due to the age of the edits they cause conflicts so need to be undone manually. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] iD name suggestion index - asking non-English-speaking mappers to review

2015-05-16 Thread Simon Poole
Th other question is: do we actually want to support (as in suggest spelling) non-chain names or not? Currently the majority of at least the restaurant names do not belong to chains, they are simply frequently used names. Simon Am 16.05.2015 um 20:07 schrieb Michał Brzozowski:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What extra permissions are needed to include CC-BY data in OSM

2015-05-13 Thread Simon Poole
Am 13.05.2015 um 22:00 schrieb Tom Lee: .. Nope. I was referring to collective databases in the ODbL which are roughly the equivalent of collective works in early versions of CC licenses and only require the OSM derived part to be subject to the ODbL terms. This is the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What extra permissions are needed to include CC-BY data in OSM

2015-05-12 Thread Simon Poole
Am 06.05.2015 um 16:42 schrieb Tom Lee: ... I think the vast quantity of CC-BY licenses data is too important a resource to ignore given the slightness of this limitation, but I understand the need for conservatism. One of Creative Commons' US affiliates is located at a law school here in

Re: [OSM-talk] Icons for most popular items on default map

2015-05-07 Thread Simon Poole
Have you looked at http://osm-icons.org/ at all for inspiration? While some of them maybe a bit too detailed, I've used them together with the original SJJB ones for https://github.com/simonpoole/beautified-JOSM-preset with quite good results. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] [Wiki Talk] Why OSM and not another collaborative mapping service?

2015-05-07 Thread Simon Poole
I'm really not sure what this discussion is doing on tagging and have redirected follow ups to talk (it has in the matter of a few mails already gone substantially off-topic though). The page in question is actually a fork of http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Google_Map_Maker which was written

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What extra permissions are needed to include CC-BY data in OSM

2015-05-06 Thread Simon Poole
Am 05.05.2015 um 11:27 schrieb Andrew Harvey: ... My question was does CC-BY 4.0 have the same issue? Could CC-BY 4.0 data be included in OSM. ... My, very conservative, reading of CC-BY 4.0 would indicate that it has additional issues over just the attribution problem for databases. CC-BY

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What extra permissions are needed to include CC-BY data in OSM

2015-05-06 Thread Simon Poole
that aspect does not seem to be very high on the priority list of anybody. Simon Am 06.05.2015 um 11:25 schrieb Simon Poole: Am 05.05.2015 um 11:27 schrieb Andrew Harvey: ... My question was does CC-BY 4.0 have the same issue? Could CC-BY 4.0 data be included in OSM. ... My, very conservative

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What extra permissions are needed to include CC-BY data in OSM

2015-05-06 Thread Simon Poole
Am 06.05.2015 um 16:42 schrieb Tom Lee: .. I think things are getting a little mixed up. The ODbL refers to Derivative Databases and Produced Works but not Derivative Works (well, except one, but I think that line exists because of poor drafting, not a deliberate choice). I *think* you

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoHipster comment on OSM

2015-05-04 Thread Simon Poole
Am 04.05.2015 um 00:50 schrieb moltonel 3x Combo: ... I can't help but draw a parallell between OSM and PostgreSQL, which has the same actual product is only owned by a community, but lots of companies offer commercial support structure. Nearly all other big databases are backed by a

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoHipster comment on OSM

2015-05-03 Thread Simon Poole
See https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/963 for the PR. Simon Am 01.05.2015 um 11:26 schrieb Simon Poole: I was actually going to suggest something along such lines given that both the Help and About pages are not particularly well used. But didn't want to get

Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation?

2015-05-01 Thread Simon Poole
Correct link worked now. I'm not aware that anybody in the LWG has a BBC contact, but Harry Wood from the CWG (and HOT) should have one. It is one of the cases were more benefit is likely to be had by getting the BBC to do a piece on OpenStreetMap, KLL and the volunteers that are supporting

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoHipster comment on OSM

2015-05-01 Thread Simon Poole
Am 01.05.2015 um 02:29 schrieb Nicholas G Lawrence: Exactly why this is necessary is a mystery to me. If business wants to make use of OSM data, they can download the planet file just like anyone else. If business wants to contribute data, or donate equipment or sponsor events,

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoHipster comment on OSM

2015-05-01 Thread Simon Poole
Am 01.05.2015 um 08:56 schrieb Colin Smale: I wonder how a marketing department would react if their (potential) customers complained they couldn't find the store. Gary knows very very very well who and how to contact if he actually had a question. Just as the handful of others in the

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoHipster comment on OSM

2015-05-01 Thread Simon Poole
The current Help page is all about mapping, and the About page does contain a link to OSMF but without any information about what the OSMF is or does in the ecosystem. On 2015-05-01 09:45, Simon Poole wrote: Am 01.05.2015 um 08:56 schrieb Colin Smale: I wonder how a marketing

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoHipster comment on OSM

2015-05-01 Thread Simon Poole
Am 01.05.2015 um 10:48 schrieb Christoph Hormann: ... rant Of course big head at company A usually knows how to quickly get in contact with big head at company B, what really bugs them with OSM is that they are supposed to use the same channels as John Doe. /rant Well less that,

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoHipster comment on OSM

2015-05-01 Thread Simon Poole
/05/15 09:25, Simon Poole wrote: I'm fairly sure that it has been discussed before (for a while pre-redesign we had such a link at least on the German version which we really should still have for legal reasons). I suspects the designers issue is using screen real estate for stuff

Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation?

2015-05-01 Thread Simon Poole
Robert, the link doesn't seem to work (not just for me) Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-legal-talk] The Failover Issue and Publishing Derived Datasets

2015-04-28 Thread Simon Poole
I've done some thinking on further aspects of the geocoding issue and have written a diary post on teh subject: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimonPoole/diary/34858 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ legal-talk mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] Osmose QA available on Germany (english)

2015-04-26 Thread Simon Poole
Am 26.04.2015 um 11:50 schrieb Frédéric Rodrigo: Hi, We have finish the coverage of Germany by Osmose QA. Osmose QA is a Quality Assurance tool. It detects and reports errors based on more than 200 rulesets. The major issue with osmose is that it invokes the notion of being

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalks

2015-04-25 Thread Simon Poole
As somebody that has mapped a fair amount of sidewalks as separate ways (for good reasons) I'm rather split on the issue (and as a tendency against adding names to objects that don't actually have them). The adding a tag to the street in question is all fine and dandy, if - it is actually a

Re: [Talk-de] Schreibfehler in deutschem Copyright-Text

2015-04-22 Thread Simon Poole
das gerade im Auge hat. M.a.W. manchmal geht es schnell, manchmal langsam. Simon Am 22.04.2015 um 12:36 schrieb Andreas Labres: On 16.04.15 10:24, Simon Poole wrote: Einfach in translatewiki ändern. Das habe ich schon vor geraumer Zeit getan (soweit ich mich erinnere), die Korrektur ist auch

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using OSM for computer game terrain, what is the open derivative database?

2015-04-21 Thread Simon Poole
The wiki is the wiki ... aka anybody can edit it. You should likely not be relying on it as primary source for legal advice for your company. Specifically the page in question has a header that reads: This wiki page was used for discussion and development of the move to the Open Database

Re: [Talk-de] Schreibfehler in deutschem Copyright-Text

2015-04-16 Thread Simon Poole
Am 16.04.2015 um 09:29 schrieb Volker Schmidt: .. Habe keine Ahnung, wer diese Seiten kontrolliert und aendern kann. .. Einfach in translatewiki ändern. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

2015-04-14 Thread Simon Poole
are likely to become if you stand in front of each building for up to several minutes before moving on. On April 13, 2015 4:02:24 AM CDT, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: IMHO if you are actually entering stuff in to a mobile device, you may as well use vespucci and just do

Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

2015-04-14 Thread Simon Poole
Am 14.04.2015 um 20:42 schrieb John F. Eldredge: If all you are doing on the spot is recording the house number, then what is the advantage to using Vespucci instead of a simpler tool? No further processing step, upload and you are finished. Other stuff, POIs and so one will tend to take

Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

2015-04-13 Thread Simon Poole
IMHO if you are actually entering stuff in to a mobile device, you may as well use vespucci and just do it properly the first time. But hten I'm biased. Simon Am 12.04.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Greg Morgan: On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

2015-04-08 Thread Simon Poole
Am 07.04.2015 um 16:51 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: ... is this something the OSMF lawyers have had a look into? Is the issue really copyright or is this about trademark (regarding the names GR PR etc.)? Currently it seems we are accepting what the Fédération Francaise de la Randonnée

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

2015-04-08 Thread Simon Poole
Am 08.04.2015 um 15:23 schrieb Russ Nelson: Simon Poole writes: The wiki already explains: they hold a trademark for GR which makes using the official names of the routes essentially impossible in and Perhaps French trademark law is different than US trademark law, but in the US, you

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

2015-04-04 Thread Simon Poole
Am 04.04.2015 um 14:57 schrieb Kate Chapman: ... Small reality check (not saying that this is anybodies fault, just how it is): - the US community shapes how the project is perceived by the media globally - US based companies control the majority of funds spent on OSM development and have a

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

2015-04-04 Thread Simon Poole
Am 03.04.2015 um 02:41 schrieb stevea: Facts about the world Simon Poole writes: Up to now OSM has drawn the line in such a way that stuff that is signposted and is observable on the ground is fair game (with some exceptions, I believe the GR issue is still unsolved). Yes, all

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

2015-04-04 Thread Simon Poole
Am 04.04.2015 um 18:40 schrieb stevea: Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world I respectfully and strenuously disagree. We still (and likely will) continue to have some predictable and manageable problems with import of data from third party sources, but we have procedures in place to make

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

2015-04-04 Thread Simon Poole
Am 04.04.2015 um 17:03 schrieb Alex Barth: I just don't want to be called a couch potato in the course of it ;-) Couch carrot? :-P Seriously, I believe Frederik was more referring to how OSM is viewed by third parties and the impression outsiders could get from the image we tend to market. And

Re: [Talk-us] USA Rail: Calling all OSM railfans! (especially in California)

2015-04-02 Thread Simon Poole
Am 02.04.2015 um 05:20 schrieb Russ Nelson: ... April Fools! Yes, you can. There are many kinds of public domain maps whose republication needs no license. For example, in the US all maps published before the magic date, whatever year it is we're up to now. Maps copyrighted but not renewed.

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM 243 now in English

2015-03-22 Thread Simon Poole
I really have to second Richard on this, thank you to the weekly OSM team. However I do wish we could make it more accessible/known for non-insiders (this is less a failing of the editorial team and more a general issue). Right now you need to be at least subscribed to a mailing list to be made

Re: [Talk-de] PD oder ODbL

2015-03-15 Thread Simon Poole
an obigen ändern, und deshalb ist jede Nanosekunde Diskussion über das Thema absolut und völlig sinnlos. Simon Am 15.03.2015 um 15:31 schrieb Florian Lohoff: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 03:22:44PM +0100, Simon Poole wrote: Gar nicht und es wäre eh bedeutungslos (das ist doch sehr alter Kaffee der wieder

Re: [Talk-de] PD oder ODbL

2015-03-15 Thread Simon Poole
Gar nicht und es wäre eh bedeutungslos (das ist doch sehr alter Kaffee der wieder aufgewärmt wird). Am 15.03.2015 um 14:17 schrieb Markus: Wie kann man feststellen, ob ein Benutzer bei der Anmeldung - PD und ODbL angekreuzt hat - oder nur ODbL? Mit herzlichem Gruss, Markus

Re: [OSM-talk] Problem with usage of other values than yes for key building

2015-03-12 Thread Simon Poole
Am 10.03.2015 um 21:35 schrieb Stefan Keller: Hi, I have a problem with the usage values other yes in key building. It seems to me that this any other usage of building=yes (for area type) is almost purely redundant. When looking at taginfo [1], building has following three top most key

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using OSM to geocode commercial data

2015-03-11 Thread Simon Poole
Am 10.03.2015 um 20:07 schrieb Charles Henck: ... The public can access our system, but they only can see the responses to their own queries (with attached geocode). Based on your response, would that not be publicly conveyed? This likely boils down to who owns the rights to the data in

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2015-03-10 Thread Simon Poole
Am 10.03.2015 um 02:10 schrieb Alex Barth: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch mailto:si...@poole.ch wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Geocoding_-_Guideline#.22Collective_Database.22_alternative 1. Why is the input data

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using OSM to geocode commercial data

2015-03-09 Thread Simon Poole
Am 09.03.2015 um 17:24 schrieb Charles Henck: ... Q: More confusingly, if we used OSM to get the geocode a latitude/longitude (or reverse geocode an address) for a dropped request, would the database of requests (and private responses) be open? ... I have difficulties understanding

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Simon Poole
how other mappers work, even for contributors very much ingrained in how they do it. Simon Am 09.03.2015 um 20:23 schrieb Clifford Snow: On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch mailto:si...@poole.ch wrote: (obviously for nearly every thing except large scale

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Simon Poole
The real core question is: will you have newbies or not? Old hands will have their favourite method of mapping anyway and are unlikely to change (obviously for nearly every thing except large scale geometry changes vespucci is the only reasonable solution :-)). For them you simply need a

Re: [OSM-talk] High load on the rendering servers?

2015-03-07 Thread Simon Poole
Jon Burgess tracked the issue down to a way node being dragged from Japan to Brazil on the 3rd of this month, creating a very very long way that increased the rendering time for a large number of tiles at high zoom levels. Simon Am 07.03.2015 um 21:39 schrieb Grant Slater: Hi Andrew, Yes

Re: [Talk-de] Zahl der OSMer

2015-03-03 Thread Simon Poole
Der Ort wo man die Zahlen findet hat sich seit Jahren (wirklich) nicht geändert: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Stats Und auch: http://osmstats.neis-one.org/ Simon Am 03.03.2015 um 09:17 schrieb Markus: In unserer Pressemappe https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Press_Kit steht, dass

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] new use case

2015-03-02 Thread Simon Poole
Am 02.03.2015 um 21:51 schrieb Jennifer Bauman: Thank you all for your responses. I apologize for the vagueness - this is a highly confidential project. I suspect you will be better served by asking your question on legal-questi...@osmfoundation.org Just as here we can naturally not

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] new use case

2015-03-02 Thread Simon Poole
Am 02.03.2015 um 18:08 schrieb Jennifer Bauman: Hi, I'm thinking of using OSM in a way that I believe is different that the use cases discussed at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/License/Use_Cases and I would like to know what the license requirements would be for this use case. The

Re: [talk-au] Early OpenStreetMap references/events in Australia

2015-02-22 Thread Simon Poole
Am 23.02.2015 um 00:33 schrieb Andrew Harvey: ... Just curious what's this used for? Firming up the trademark application in Australia, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Trademark#Expansion_of_OpenStreetMap_Mark_Coverage Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[talk-au] Early OpenStreetMap references/events in Australia

2015-02-21 Thread Simon Poole
The LWG is trying to document, preferably, early events with OpenStreetMap participation and press/media mentions or pieces on OSM in Australia. Typical stuff that we are looking for are: coverage of mapping parties, conferences and exhibitions that have had community participation, talks and so

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2015-02-20 Thread Simon Poole
Am 20.02.2015 um 08:52 schrieb Simon Poole: ... Treating the geocoded results plus input data as a derivative DB sidesteps various issues. ... I should have mentioned that the single biggest advantage is that it doesn't require us to supply a definition of what geocoding actually

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2015-02-19 Thread Simon Poole
Am 03.11.2014 um 00:45 schrieb Alex Barth: I have two questions on the Collective DB alternative: The derivative database consists of the data that has been used as the input data for the geocoding process, as well as the data that has been gained from OpenStreetMap in the process. Any

Re: [OSM-talk] Merkaartor dead ?

2015-02-16 Thread Simon Poole
Actually I believe it is slightly less dead, potentially a Zombie, now than it was a couple of months back, see https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/merkaartor/2015-January/thread.html However it should be noted that is had less unique users in 2014 than iD, JOSM, P2, vespucci, OsmAnd, Go

Re: [OSM-talk] How to locate errors

2015-02-09 Thread Simon Poole
Am 09.02.2015 um 11:24 schrieb Hendrik Hoeth: Hi, I hope this is the right place to ask ... I'd like to know how I can find a certain error in the map data. What I observe is the following: - Import planet-150202 into psql-database using imposm. Settings are at the bottom of this

Re: [OSM-talk] Galaxy S3 for Mapping

2015-02-03 Thread Simon Poole
Just an addition to what Andrew wrote, the stock camera app should have an indication of when it has a fix. The OpenCamera app has a preferences that requires a fix before you can take a picture and the added bonus of storing compass information (needs to be set in a preference too). Simon Am

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS POI populations

2015-01-28 Thread Simon Poole
Am 13.01.2015 um 21:29 schrieb Wolfgang Zenker: ... In Montana I have removed rather than changed these POIs, as they definitely no longer existed before the GNIS import. Removing these for all of the US would be a good thing, especially for hospitals. We definitely don't want people in an

Re: [Talk-de] Lizenzfrage: Zuarbeit für Papierkarte

2015-01-27 Thread Simon Poole
Wenn ich eine halbwegs verlässliche Auskunft zu einer Lizenzfrage bekommen möchte, frage ich den Lizenzgeber, nicht eine x-beliebige Mailingliste. Fragen sollten an legal-questi...@osmfoundation.org gehen Zusätzliche Guidelines zur Lizenz (die in diesem Fall vermutlich die Fragen schon

Re: [Talk-de] Lizenzfrage: Zuarbeit für Papierkarte

2015-01-27 Thread Simon Poole
Am 27.01.2015 um 12:40 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: , danke für den Link, die Seite kannte ich noch nicht. . Siehe auch https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2014-April/thread.html Mail von Michael Collinson vom 7. April. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [Talk-de] Umfrageplattform

2015-01-21 Thread Simon Poole
Hmmm mir fehlt, zum Beispiel bei der Addressfrage, die Möglichkeit mehrere Antworten anzukreuzen. Generell gibt es ja bei Taggingfragen häufig nicht nur eine Antwort, sondern der Mapper wird situativ, dass machen was gerade am besten passt. Simon Am 21.01.2015 um 10:47 schrieb Harald Hartmann:

Re: [Talk-de] Umfrageplattform

2015-01-21 Thread Simon Poole
Am 21.01.2015 um 12:11 schrieb Harald Hartmann: ... PS: Es kann mir doch keiner erzählen, dass er mehrere gleichgewichtige Präferenzen hat ... dann hat er nämlich überhaupt keine Präferenz/Meinung/wie auch immer ;-) Ich halte die Varianten Node im Umriss und Auf dem Umriss für de facto

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC-BY-SA 3.0

2015-01-12 Thread Simon Poole
The SA versions of the CC commons licences prior to 4.0 are incompatible with both the CTs and the ODbL. The 4.0 version is some what out in the open because they are very new and AFAIK there has been no rigorous investigation of the compatibility issues, but it is unlikely that the situation is

Re: [OSM-talk] Keeping imported data updated with source changes

2015-01-10 Thread Simon Poole
Addresses are trivial to match by geographic proximity and the actual values and given that addresses are one of the things that are quite likely to move and be attached to other objects (and loose any non-standard ref tags in the process) any tool that relies solely on such ref tags is going to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM based GPS navigations and ODbl license of OSM data

2015-01-08 Thread Simon Poole
Am 07.01.2015 um 13:00 schrieb Henning Hollburg: Let's say I have a great source of Floating Car Data (FCD). I'd like to use this FCD to calculate precise weights for edges I derived from OSM. These edges will be used in an online navigation application later on. The crux is the later on

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM based GPS navigations and ODbl license of OSM data

2015-01-07 Thread Simon Poole
Please see http://osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Community_Guidelines signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM based GPS navigations and ODbl license of OSM data

2015-01-07 Thread Simon Poole
like this. -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Simon Poole si...@poole.ch Komu: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Datum: 7. 1. 2015 9:09:38 Předmět: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM based GPS navigations and ODbl license of OSM data Please see http://osmfoundation.org/wiki/License

Re: [Talk-de] Jahresrückblick 2014 und Ausblick auf 20 15

2015-01-05 Thread Simon Poole
StartSSL überprüft durchaus (mind. stichprobenmässig) ob die Domain der Person tatsächlich gehört die das Zertifikat bestellt. Sprich eigentlich kommst du nicht darum herum die Orga-zertifizierung zu machen. Natürlich könnte man auch einfach die Domain der OSMF übertragen und Grant könnte dann

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] redraw from CC-BY-SA tiles and ODbL data

2015-01-04 Thread Simon Poole
Am 31.12.2014 um 18:14 schrieb Lars-Daniel Weber: . Are these objects to be released in ODbL and have they to be given back to the community? Since the CC-BY-SA tiles might have some generalisation (smoothing, selection), this license also has to be encountered. . IMHO it really

Re: [OSM-talk] Hemnet.se using OSM data without attribution

2015-01-02 Thread Simon Poole
I had a quick look at it. Given that the OSM data is clearly separate from the google map background I don't see any problem with that aspect. They naturally should add attribution to OSM as soon as they display the buildings, IMHO on the map. Naturally if the agreement they have entered in to

Re: [OSM-talk] maintenance?

2014-12-13 Thread Simon Poole
Something has broke (unplanned naturally). Admins are working on it. Am 13.12.2014 20:52, schrieb Brad Neuhauser: Looks like there's some database maintenance happening--I didn't notice anything about this on the list recently. Any idea what's up and how long it might last? (was planning a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Addresses from Land Registry Price Paid Data

2014-12-01 Thread Simon Poole
Am 01.12.2014 15:08, schrieb Robert Whittaker (OSM lists): This also raises the question of whether there are any other OGL-licensed datasets out there that have been used in OSM, but which contain undocumented third-party IP rights that we don't have permission to use. This is,

Re: [OSM-talk] Skybox for good imagery test

2014-11-29 Thread Simon Poole
Am 29.11.2014 22:51, schrieb Rob Nickerson: Just to pick up on your point about HOT. Google has confirmed that Imagery released under Skybox for Good can be digitized into OSM under OSM's license. This applies to all imagery whether the imagery was captured following a request from HOT or

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2014-11-15 Thread Simon Poole
Bryce, where are these common? Not something I've seen here (in a wide sense of the word). Simon Am 15.11.2014 02:32, schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: I'd like to encourage people to map bicycle repair stations. There are only 18 in the database right now. Can we double that this week?

[OSM-talk] Changeset comment function

2014-11-02 Thread Simon Poole
I would like to personally thank ukasiu, emacsen, woodpeck and TomH for developing and deploying this. A much wanted and needed feature. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-31 Thread Simon Poole
I commented on the better map vision here http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimonPoole/diary/25975 . Steve hasn't actually said how he wants to fix the problem in concrete terms, given that as I write there are larger countries where there is no easy, even hit and run, solution. Simon Am

Re: [Talk-de] Sinn der Relation

2014-10-30 Thread Simon Poole
iD macht das automatisch, was IMHO zwar leicht überraschend ist, aber durchaus richtig. Überlegung ist wohl: du hast ein gültiges geschlossenes Polygon z.B. für ein Haus, der Nutzer teilt das Polygon. Wenn du jetzt nicht ein MP daraus machst hast du ein falsch getaggtes Objekt wenn nichts weiter

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: [okgis] FW: Google Is Giving Away Up-to-Date Satellite Images For Free

2014-10-29 Thread Simon Poole
See the thread on this list from the 27th. Simon Am 29.10.2014 22:35, schrieb Paul Johnson: Wonder if we can get someone to reach out and see if we can get this available to us under an amicable license. Seems to be making the New York and Oklahoma GIS circles right now. --

Re: [OSM-talk] Postponing elections, or other alternatives (Was: Modus operandi of the board)

2014-10-28 Thread Simon Poole
Particularly because the far more efficient is clearly false (for one compare number of fundamental reforms at all level of government that stick in Switzerland vs. other countries, particularly those with two-party systems). The Swiss system is fairly fine-tuned though and lots of things work

Re: [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery

2014-10-27 Thread Simon Poole
Rob IMHO only: I would suggest asking for explicit permission (to trace and to distribute the results on ODbL terms). It is not clear at all if their licence would allow it and reading the blurb it seems as if the use case they are thinking of is more online display of the images. You should

Re: [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery

2014-10-27 Thread Simon Poole
Am 27.10.2014 22:58, schrieb Paul Norman: The SkyBox imagery is CC BY 4.0, which *may* be compatible. It does not have the obvious problems that earlier versions of CC BY have. That is the one side of it, the other is that you will find that the opinions on if tracing even creates a

Re: [Talk-de] Deutsche OSM-Vertretung sinnvoll?

2014-10-27 Thread Simon Poole
Am 27.10.2014 18:23, schrieb Markus: ... Bis jetzt ist OSM eine Technokratie. Entscheidungen werden von Programmierern und Server-Admins getroffen. Vermutlich sind viele in der OSMF organisiert. Wobei die OSMF (mir) recht intransparent erscheint. Das mag wohl so sein. Andererseits

Re: [Talk-de] Deutsche OSM-Vertretung sinnvoll?

2014-10-27 Thread Simon Poole
Am 27.10.2014 21:58, schrieb Manfred A. Reiter: Kannst Du das hier dann bitte einmal ein wenig tranparenter machen. Wer gehört denn zu seiner Junta? Das weiss man nicht, aber sein Program ist: lasst mich mal für ein Jahr machen, ich reduzier den Vorstand auf 3 Leute (sprich Steve plus 2) , löse

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 122, Issue 63

2014-10-26 Thread Simon Poole
The current articles require the most senior 1/3 of the board to stand down when an election is scheduled at a general meeting. Given that non-election of incumbents that stand again has been rare, it essentially doesn't guarantee fresh blood nor does it provide a maximum accumulated term limit.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-23 Thread Simon Poole
Am 23.10.2014 08:22, schrieb Sarah Hoffmann: .. It very clear states the obligations of a board member with respect to board meetings and transparency. How does the board hold its individual members accountable for following the rules of order? How can the OSMF membership hold board

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread Simon Poole
See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Video_mapping and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Video_Mapping_with_the_ContourGPS_Helmet_Camera It is my preferred way of surveying if not on foot. There are numerous problems, for example current affordable video cams tend to not have enough resolution

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread Simon Poole
It has all kinds of problems not that they are not fixable, but stuff like assuming a fixed 1s GPS recording interval and similar and AFAIK there was never a stable version released. Given that one of the nice things about videos is that you don't actually need an exact position for them to be

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-23 Thread Simon Poole
Sorry for sounding like a broken record to some: there are no EGMs or AGMs any more under UK law, there are simply general meetings, there is not even a requirement to have any at all (that is why we are suggesting adding such a clause to the articles at the GM in Argentina) and you could just as

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-22 Thread Simon Poole
Am 22.10.2014 11:48, schrieb David Cuenca: Hi Martin, thanks for the link. What about annual plans and community reviews? Where can I see them? David, The WMF has a considerable amount of resources available both in funds and in people. It is a very Apples and Oranges comparison, which

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] A Better Map

2014-10-22 Thread Simon Poole
Serge I want to apologize in case you missed explicit support from me (and the board), it was likely just a miscommunication given that the person in question lambasted essentially everybody that he had ever had contact with and you in discussion suggested that we simply ignore him. Simon Am

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] A Better Map

2014-10-22 Thread Simon Poole
Am 22.10.2014 23:38, schrieb Kate Chapman: ... I was not suggested the entire board would be non-affiliated. There are different approaches to this and you can look at other organizations with mixed boards. Checks and balances are possible, especially with a membership. Just to clarify.

Re: [OSM-talk] Applications to the Local Chapter Agreement

2014-10-22 Thread Simon Poole
Hi Rob I had the feeling that I had announced something outside of the board, but that may simply be a figment of my imagination. Applications have been received from Iceland, Italy and Japan. All three have the honor and the pain of having to beta test the procedure, mainly providing us with

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