Re: [OSM-talk-be] Street with 2 names
Hi Marc, I already fixed it. Wasn't sure which name to use, but I saw in other examples that both names are combined to form the streetname. In this case Bronstraat - Hofstede. Gilbert On 5 June 2013 07:15, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: With this overpass query http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ip you can see all streets with name:left tag. I noticed there is one near Mol (Bronstraat, Hofstede) without a name tag, only name:left and name:right. Searching for those streets in Nominatim returns no answer (for that street). So my advice is to add a name tag as well. (Yes, I know do not tag for the renderer, but using an undocumented tag, which is not recognized by Nominatim is pretty useless (even when it's used 23.000 time -- see taginfo)) m On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.comwrote: Both names are equal, so al_name isn't used indeed. Here's some other example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/94237553 (inside the same town this time). But without associatedStreet relations. 2013/6/4 Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com There's actually name:left and name:right to tell which side is which. alt_name isn't used for this. Ben On Tuesday 04 June 2013 16:04:07 eMerzh wrote: What about using alt_name or smth? On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: The streetname can be street A - street B Osmose complains when you have street A;street B You can create 2 associated street relations, one for each street + city + postcode + houses on that side or if you do not create associated street relations, the name of the street + city + postcode on the houses on that side. Examples with associated Street relations http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.116914lon=4.395304zoom=18layers=M Pierstraat - Reetsesteenweg (Reet Aartselaar) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.16592lon=4.42274zoom=17layers=M Jachtlaan (Antwerpen Edegem) same name in this case, but different cities postcodes m On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Teddy e...@swing.be wrote: Hello, What to do if a street have 2 names ? One side is in a town and the other side in another town ? Thanks. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Street with 2 names
PS: when I add such a street to their associated street relations (obviously 2 separate relations), the JOSM validator complains. Shouldn't that be fixed ? Gilbert On 5 June 2013 19:55, Gilbert Hersschens gherssch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marc, I already fixed it. Wasn't sure which name to use, but I saw in other examples that both names are combined to form the streetname. In this case Bronstraat - Hofstede. Gilbert On 5 June 2013 07:15, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: With this overpass query http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ip you can see all streets with name:left tag. I noticed there is one near Mol (Bronstraat, Hofstede) without a name tag, only name:left and name:right. Searching for those streets in Nominatim returns no answer (for that street). So my advice is to add a name tag as well. (Yes, I know do not tag for the renderer, but using an undocumented tag, which is not recognized by Nominatim is pretty useless (even when it's used 23.000 time -- see taginfo)) m On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.comwrote: Both names are equal, so al_name isn't used indeed. Here's some other example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/94237553 (inside the same town this time). But without associatedStreet relations. 2013/6/4 Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com There's actually name:left and name:right to tell which side is which. alt_name isn't used for this. Ben On Tuesday 04 June 2013 16:04:07 eMerzh wrote: What about using alt_name or smth? On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: The streetname can be street A - street B Osmose complains when you have street A;street B You can create 2 associated street relations, one for each street + city + postcode + houses on that side or if you do not create associated street relations, the name of the street + city + postcode on the houses on that side. Examples with associated Street relations http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.116914lon=4.395304zoom=18layers=M Pierstraat - Reetsesteenweg (Reet Aartselaar) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.16592lon=4.42274zoom=17layers=M Jachtlaan (Antwerpen Edegem) same name in this case, but different cities postcodes m On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Teddy e...@swing.be wrote: Hello, What to do if a street have 2 names ? One side is in a town and the other side in another town ? Thanks. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Street with 2 names
Yes, I know that JOSM complains that the street is in two relations. Osmose as well. There I report it as false positive. Osmose also complains that there are many names in the relation. I also mark those as false positive. I have no other solution. m On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Gilbert Hersschens gherssch...@gmail.comwrote: PS: when I add such a street to their associated street relations (obviously 2 separate relations), the JOSM validator complains. Shouldn't that be fixed ? Gilbert On 5 June 2013 19:55, Gilbert Hersschens gherssch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marc, I already fixed it. Wasn't sure which name to use, but I saw in other examples that both names are combined to form the streetname. In this case Bronstraat - Hofstede. Gilbert On 5 June 2013 07:15, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: With this overpass query http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ip you can see all streets with name:left tag. I noticed there is one near Mol (Bronstraat, Hofstede) without a name tag, only name:left and name:right. Searching for those streets in Nominatim returns no answer (for that street). So my advice is to add a name tag as well. (Yes, I know do not tag for the renderer, but using an undocumented tag, which is not recognized by Nominatim is pretty useless (even when it's used 23.000 time -- see taginfo)) m On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.comwrote: Both names are equal, so al_name isn't used indeed. Here's some other example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/94237553 (inside the same town this time). But without associatedStreet relations. 2013/6/4 Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com There's actually name:left and name:right to tell which side is which. alt_name isn't used for this. Ben On Tuesday 04 June 2013 16:04:07 eMerzh wrote: What about using alt_name or smth? On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: The streetname can be street A - street B Osmose complains when you have street A;street B You can create 2 associated street relations, one for each street + city + postcode + houses on that side or if you do not create associated street relations, the name of the street + city + postcode on the houses on that side. Examples with associated Street relations http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.116914lon=4.395304zoom=18layers=M Pierstraat - Reetsesteenweg (Reet Aartselaar) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.16592lon=4.42274zoom=17layers=M Jachtlaan (Antwerpen Edegem) same name in this case, but different cities postcodes m On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Teddy e...@swing.be wrote: Hello, What to do if a street have 2 names ? One side is in a town and the other side in another town ? Thanks. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Street with 2 names
Hello, What to do if a street have 2 names ? One side is in a town and the other side in another town ? Thanks. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Street with 2 names
The streetname can be street A - street B Osmose complains when you have street A;street B You can create 2 associated street relations, one for each street + city + postcode + houses on that side or if you do not create associated street relations, the name of the street + city + postcode on the houses on that side. Examples with associated Street relations http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.116914lon=4.395304zoom=18layers=M Pierstraat - Reetsesteenweg (Reet Aartselaar) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.16592lon=4.42274zoom=17layers=M Jachtlaan (Antwerpen Edegem) same name in this case, but different cities postcodes m On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Teddy e...@swing.be wrote: Hello, What to do if a street have 2 names ? One side is in a town and the other side in another town ? Thanks. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Street with 2 names
What about using alt_name or smth? On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: The streetname can be street A - street B Osmose complains when you have street A;street B You can create 2 associated street relations, one for each street + city + postcode + houses on that side or if you do not create associated street relations, the name of the street + city + postcode on the houses on that side. Examples with associated Street relations http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.116914lon=4.395304zoom=18layers=M Pierstraat - Reetsesteenweg (Reet Aartselaar) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.16592lon=4.42274zoom=17layers=M Jachtlaan (Antwerpen Edegem) same name in this case, but different cities postcodes m On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Teddy e...@swing.be wrote: Hello, What to do if a street have 2 names ? One side is in a town and the other side in another town ? Thanks. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Street with 2 names
There's actually name:left and name:right to tell which side is which. alt_name isn't used for this. Ben On Tuesday 04 June 2013 16:04:07 eMerzh wrote: What about using alt_name or smth? On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: The streetname can be street A - street B Osmose complains when you have street A;street B You can create 2 associated street relations, one for each street + city + postcode + houses on that side or if you do not create associated street relations, the name of the street + city + postcode on the houses on that side. Examples with associated Street relations http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.116914lon=4.395304zoom=18layers=M Pierstraat - Reetsesteenweg (Reet Aartselaar) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.16592lon=4.42274zoom=17layers=M Jachtlaan (Antwerpen Edegem) same name in this case, but different cities postcodes m On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Teddy e...@swing.be wrote: Hello, What to do if a street have 2 names ? One side is in a town and the other side in another town ? Thanks. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Street with 2 names
Both names are equal, so al_name isn't used indeed. Here's some other example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/94237553(inside the same town this time). But without associatedStreet relations. 2013/6/4 Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com There's actually name:left and name:right to tell which side is which. alt_name isn't used for this. Ben On Tuesday 04 June 2013 16:04:07 eMerzh wrote: What about using alt_name or smth? On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: The streetname can be street A - street B Osmose complains when you have street A;street B You can create 2 associated street relations, one for each street + city + postcode + houses on that side or if you do not create associated street relations, the name of the street + city + postcode on the houses on that side. Examples with associated Street relations http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.116914lon=4.395304zoom=18layers=M Pierstraat - Reetsesteenweg (Reet Aartselaar) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.16592lon=4.42274zoom=17layers=M Jachtlaan (Antwerpen Edegem) same name in this case, but different cities postcodes m On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Teddy e...@swing.be wrote: Hello, What to do if a street have 2 names ? One side is in a town and the other side in another town ? Thanks. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Street with 2 names
With this overpass query http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ip you can see all streets with name:left tag. I noticed there is one near Mol (Bronstraat, Hofstede) without a name tag, only name:left and name:right. Searching for those streets in Nominatim returns no answer (for that street). So my advice is to add a name tag as well. (Yes, I know do not tag for the renderer, but using an undocumented tag, which is not recognized by Nominatim is pretty useless (even when it's used 23.000 time -- see taginfo)) m On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.comwrote: Both names are equal, so al_name isn't used indeed. Here's some other example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/94237553 (inside the same town this time). But without associatedStreet relations. 2013/6/4 Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com There's actually name:left and name:right to tell which side is which. alt_name isn't used for this. Ben On Tuesday 04 June 2013 16:04:07 eMerzh wrote: What about using alt_name or smth? On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: The streetname can be street A - street B Osmose complains when you have street A;street B You can create 2 associated street relations, one for each street + city + postcode + houses on that side or if you do not create associated street relations, the name of the street + city + postcode on the houses on that side. Examples with associated Street relations http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.116914lon=4.395304zoom=18layers=M Pierstraat - Reetsesteenweg (Reet Aartselaar) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.16592lon=4.42274zoom=17layers=M Jachtlaan (Antwerpen Edegem) same name in this case, but different cities postcodes m On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Teddy e...@swing.be wrote: Hello, What to do if a street have 2 names ? One side is in a town and the other side in another town ? Thanks. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
