[OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw (again ...)

2013-10-12 Thread Pierre Parmentier
Hello, Here are a few comments about the future of OSM-BE. It is a fact that during our 3 October 2013 meeting, we were a bit short of time to discuss the creation of an OSM-BE association. An OSM-BE association under the umbrella of another vzw/asbl does not mean that we do not have to

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-11 Thread Julien Fastré
Hi, I could not follow the discussion here for a week, but I do agree with this proposal: be part of OKFN is a very good idea ! Thank Pieter ! Where do I have to register ? :-) Julien Le 09/10/13 11:51, Nicolas Pettiaux a écrit : 2013/10/9 Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.com

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-11 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
2013/10/11 Julien Fastré jul...@fastre.info Dear Julien I could not follow the discussion here for a week, but I do agree with this proposal: be part of OKFN is a very good idea ! Here is the place

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-11 Thread Pieter Colpaert
Dear all, After consent of the Board of OKFN (I will send an email when it's official), OSM will be an incubating new working group at OKFN Belgium. You can start accepting and sending invoices (first accept please ;) ) and you can elect someone to the board meetings (Will this be Nicolas?).

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-11 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
13/10/11 Pieter Colpaert pieter.colpa...@okfn.org Dear all, After consent of the Board of OKFN (I will send an email when it's official), OSM will be an incubating new working group at OKFN Belgium. You can start accepting and sending invoices (first accept please ;) ) please let us know

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-11 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Hi, We don't have all the answers yet. The only thing we know are the mails Pieter has sent to the list and some details that have been discussed in Brussels last week. But as I can see it at the moment: The main benefit of this is that we will have a way of accepting sponsorships and host the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-11 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 09:16:59PM +0200, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: 2013/10/11 Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be So basicly there will be no OSM-be, only OKFN? that is the idea We are already a de facto association, indeed so nothing will change? as we will have also a formal

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-09 Thread Pieter Colpaert
I'm really excited to work together. I hope to have a video call with some of you very soon! I'm having a mini board meeting this lunch to discuss this with our board as well. Our only conditions to all our working groups: If there is money coming in, there will be 5% going to general

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-09 Thread Ben Abelshausen
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Pieter Colpaert pieter.colpa...@okfn.orgwrote: I'm really excited to work together. I hope to have a video call with some of you very soon! Or we meet somewhere in Gent! I'm having a mini board meeting this lunch to discuss this with our board as well.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-09 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
Much thanks Glenn and Mark for the support. I have discussed the case this sunday morning with Julien Fastré, and he is ready to go that direction too. Now, we need to get at least 20 people to be interested in becoming members of the Belgian OSM chapter to follow the rules of the OSM

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-09 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
2013/10/9 Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.com On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Pieter Colpaert pieter.colpa...@okfn.orgwrote: I'm really excited to work together. I hope to have a video call with some of you very soon! Or we meet somewhere in Gent! I'm having a mini board meeting

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-06 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
2013/10/5 Pieter Colpaert pieter.colpa...@okfn.org Hi OSM, With Open Knowledge Foundation Belgium vzw we are building an umbrella organisation for Open Knowledge in Belgium. Creative Commons Belgium is a working group, the iRail initiative has become a working group (Open Transport), we

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-06 Thread Mark Van den Borre
Hi all, Having an umbrella org take care of the legal and administrative overhead makes a _lot_ of sense to me. And OKFN seems to be the right kind of umbrella. Do it! Mark P.S. Lightning talk and/or stand proposals for FOSDEM 2014 are welcomed at

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-06 Thread Glenn Plas
On 2013-10-06 09:12, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: 2013/10/5 Pieter Colpaert pieter.colpa...@okfn.org mailto:pieter.colpa...@okfn.org Hi OSM, With Open Knowledge Foundation Belgium vzw we are building an umbrella organisation for Open Knowledge in Belgium. Creative Commons Belgium

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-06 Thread Ben Abelshausen
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be wrote: I've said it before in the past here : my company is ready to donate resources, we use OSM data every second of the day. A VZW/ASBL would make that donation a tad easier to do (and receive a decent paper trail for our

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 07:06:24PM +0200, Ben Abelshausen wrote: On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be wrote: I've said it before in the past here : my company is ready to donate resources, we use OSM data every second of the day. A VZW/ASBL would make that

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-05 Thread Pieter Colpaert
Hi OSM, With Open Knowledge Foundation Belgium vzw we are building an umbrella organisation for Open Knowledge in Belgium. Creative Commons Belgium is a working group, the iRail initiative has become a working group (Open Transport), we have people working on open source software for open data

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-05 Thread Ben Abelshausen
It's just to have a legal structure in place to be able to pay for the web hosting of the osm.be website, print flyers and things like that. I have myself payed for some of these things in the past (not a lot fortunately) and it would be more convenient this way. Then there was another reason:

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-05 Thread Marc Gemis
As far as I understood the main reasons where * the domain name should belong to a group of people (an organization) not an individual * some organizations (e.g. Crib) are willing to donate money to an organization, but not to individuals. This money could be used to pay for the domain name,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-05 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
2013/10/5 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com As far as I understood the main reasons where * the domain name should belong to a group of people (an organization) not an individual indeed * some organizations (e.g. Crib) are willing to donate money to an organization, but not to individuals.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-05 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
2013/10/5 Gilbert Hersschens gherssch...@gmail.com I agree with Nicolas. OFKN needs to have convincing arguments. Keep in mind that we are a very small team and just starting to get ourselves more organized. My concern is that becoming part of a larger organization at this point may be like

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgian chapter as a Belgian asbl/vzw

2013-10-05 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 07:12:40PM +0200, Pierre Parmentier wrote: I order to progress with the registration of OSM-BE as an asbl/vzw, I have: - updated the draft for the statutes. (As the fr version is more detailed than the nl version, I have been working on the first one.) -