Re: [Talk-ca] Exit with name on node *and* destination

Like I said, I will leave it to the local mappers to figure out what is best. I did refine the instructions for the U.S. challenge a little more, since there are definitely legitimate uses of the `name` tag on junction nodes. I included an example. Have a look if you’re interested:

Re: [Talk-ca] Exit with name on node *and* destination

Je ne suis pas favorable à lancer une action MapRoulette. Cela ressemblerait à une opération pour imposer un schema OSM particulier, voire pour mieux contrôler le rendu sur la carte. J'ai modifié au cours des dernières années ces objets et les noms y sont revenus. Peut-être vaut-il mieux

Re: [Talk-ca] Exit with name on node *and* destination

I did create a MapRoulette challenge to review these named junction nodes for the United States just now. See https://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3253/task/5881462 . If you find it useful I’d be happy to create one for Canada as well.

Re: [Talk-ca] Exit with name on node *and* destination

I just cleaned up a handful of junctions in the western provinces where refs were in the name tag, destination was in the name on the junction in addition to the link way, etc. Running an Overpass query for all of Canada (http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/DrL) now shows that there are almost 2000 of

Re: [Talk-ca] Exit with name on node *and* destination

Between "out meta;" and "out meta qt;" there should be a >; but sometimes this gets mangled. Entre "out meta;" et "out meta qt;" il devrait y avoir un >; mais parfois cela est mutilé. So, I'm choosing to share an "OT share link:" Donc, je choisis de partager un "lien de partage OT:"

Re: [Talk-ca] Exit with name on node *and* destination

On Nov 6, 2018, at 8:08 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: > Petit test rapide avec Overpass. J'observe que les clés suivantes sont > utilisées > highway=service > service=emergency_access > access=no > exemple https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/19692719 > > La Requête Overpass ci-dessous avec paramètre

Re: [Talk-ca] Exit with name on node *and* destination

Petit test rapide avec Overpass. J'observe que les clés suivantes sont utiliséeshighway=serviceservice=emergency_accessaccess=noexemple https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/19692719 La Requête Overpass ci-dessous avec paramètre around, détecte les voies de service à proximité d'autoroutes sans clé

Re: [Talk-ca] Exit with name on node *and* destination

So apparently this is pretty common practice in Quebec. There are 755 junction nodes that have name tags. See https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Dr9. Other provinces don't have nearly that many. The user breakdown for latest edit on those nodes doesn't really surface one mapper who consistently

Re: [Talk-ca] Exit with name on node *and* destination

Is there an Overpass or other query that could detect all these situations? I could make a MapRoulette challenge out of them so we can look at them together and remove the name on nodes where it's not appropriate / redundant. I'll ask on IRC as well.. I am not that much of an expert in

Re: [Talk-ca] Exit with name on node *and* destination

C'est un Import Canvec. Je ne sais pas quelle est la règle pour ces chemins de service de façon générale sur les autoroutes. Les ajoute-t-on systématiquement. Si oui, il faudrait ajouter access=no, et sans doute emergency=yes. Je vois une telle route de service 1km plus au sud, au km 10.   

Re: [Talk-ca] Exit with name on node *and* destination

Yep, so in this case removing the name and keeping the ref on the junction node sounds appropriate. While we're at it, the service road https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/48154169 doesn't seem to show up on any of the current imagery in iD. Does it still exist? --Jarek On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at

Re: [Talk-ca] Exit with name on node *and* destination

Je disais précédemment> Je ne sais pour les autres provinces, mais au Québec les no. de sorties > correspondent aux bornes kilométriques de la route (ici 15 pour km 15). > Il est plus informatif d'afficher le no de sortie (ref=15) Ici c'est sortie 11pour km 11, et non 15 comme j'ai dit

Re: [Talk-ca] Exit with name on node *and* destination

Right, I also thought that was the (only) appropriate use for the name tag on junction nodes. What may be misleading is that the names on Junction nodes are rendered on the map, which may encourage people to use the destination as the junction name.. Martijn > On Nov 5, 2018, at 12:59 PM,

Re: [Talk-ca] Exit with name on node *and* destination

Je ne sais pour les autres provinces, mais au Québec les no. de sorties correspondent aux bornes kilométriques de la route (ici 15 pour km 15). Il est plus informatif d'afficher le no de sortie (ref=15) sur cette node et d'éviter d'ajouter le nom de chemin(s) de destination. La destination

Re: [Talk-ca] Exit with name on node *and* destination

I have seen this used in Germany for "junction names", e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/30249931 is one of the exits making up "Frankfurter Kreuz" which is the major interchange near Frankfurt and has its own (quite extensive) Wikipedia page: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurter_Kreuz