Re: [Talk-GB] Wish LIst for Mapnik Stylesheet (overmapping of private features)

2013-09-10 Thread Craig Loftus
I would hope that whoever might fix the bugs in the rendering stylesheet would start with those rather than discard all of them and start with a new bug list on github. That is step 3 on the roadmap described on the openstreetmap-carto repo:

[Talk-GB] Fwd: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=

2013-01-01 Thread Craig Loftus
I have been using prow:ref, just because I came across it in the mailing lists. I have not added many (~60 prows) and I don't mind converting those over to prow_ref if that is the consensus. My preference would be for prow:ref, as the colon is the 'standard' way to define namespaces, and I am not

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags

2012-07-04 Thread Craig Loftus
However, there are also instances of highway=no, where roads have been realigned or ripped up, should these also be removed from the database? I think highway=no is typically used as a temporary tag to try to stop remote mappers from adding something from a source that is not up to date. In

[Talk-GB] OSM use on ITV in Lewis

2012-05-26 Thread Craig Loftus
For those interested in use of OSM data, in the latest Lewis [1] at ~55 min they show a 'fictionalised' OSM map of Oxford (the Jericho/Walton Manor area). It definitely uses OSM data but with lots of modifications to include features from the episode, and to remove inconvenience things like

Re: [Talk-GB] London 2012 tourch relay route

2012-04-07 Thread Craig Loftus
Tim, I have customers with 1000+ trucks around the country between them who are extremely interested in the precise location of the torch route for exactly this reason. Are you saying that their potential use of OSM is in some way invalid? The rejection of the torch route was not because it

Re: [Talk-GB] Bing Images

2012-03-24 Thread Craig Loftus
This one is at least twice as good. http://binged.it/GPumvM Craig On 9 March 2012 14:26, Mike Valiant mike_vali...@hotmail.com wrote: The node below it should be tagged as:  under_flight_path=yes! From: h...@cantab.net To: nick.w.aus...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 12:33:30 + CC:

Re: [Talk-GB] Remapping update

2012-03-24 Thread Craig Loftus
*and where those contributions have since been superceded or washed out by subsequent changes* I think people understand this is important, but the wording is so vague and examples of appropriate usage given on the list vary wildly. The example you gave still allows for IP to be present in the

Re: [Talk-GB] Un-relicensable roads - now with secondary roads included

2012-03-23 Thread Craig Loftus
I've been working down the list in ID order (though you can sort the columns if you want) And some. I ordered by type and randomly clicked on a dozen and haven't found one you haven't already squashed. I have better luck finding things using badmap. Craig On 23 March 2012 08:51,

Re: [Talk-GB] Un-relicensable roads - now with secondary roads included

2012-03-23 Thread Craig Loftus
I just tried 2 options with my default editor set to remote. The default edit URL [1] from browse/way/32795934 does work, but throws an error: Editing failed - make sure JOSM or Merkaartor is loaded and the remote control option is enabled A simplified version of the URL that would be useful in

Re: [Talk-GB] Remapping update

2012-03-23 Thread Craig Loftus
Incidentally, is just knowing the footpaths evidence enough to tag with odbl=clean? Or is there the risk that the footpath was created with iffy sources? As I read it, if the nodes along the way are clean then by marking the way odbl clean you're just checking the properties are clean... so if

Re: [Talk-GB] Island in lake ...

2012-01-28 Thread Craig Loftus
(in Potlatch, I don't know JOSM) In JOSM you select the lake outline and the island outline and press Ctrl+Alt+A (or Tools -- Create multipolygon). I seem to recall something about getting the inner and outer paths running in the correct direction? I've heard rumours that that was once the

Re: [Talk-GB] Bing Imagery update

2011-12-19 Thread Craig Loftus
Not sure how widespread the update is, but certainly the Bing Imagery covering the Isle of Wight has recently been updated to imagery taken within the last few months. There is new imagery (within ~6 months) in the North Yorkshire area. Specifically I've seen new imagery just south of

Re: [Talk-GB] Further Detail on Open Data Measures in the Autumn Statement 2011

2011-12-01 Thread Craig Loftus
So what does that mean re the OS saying the council copyrights the data, and the councils say the OS copyrights the data situation? Well I think it means that when the councils say the OS copyrights the data that you can show them a little piece of paper that says otherwise. What would be

[Talk-GB] Further Detail on Open Data Measures in the Autumn Statement 2011

2011-11-30 Thread Craig Loftus
As part of Osborne's statement yesterday a document titled Further Detail on Open Data Measures in the Autumn Statement 2011 was released. www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/sites/default/files/resources/Further_detail_on_Open_Data_measures_in_the_Autumn_Statement_2011.pdf Of specific interest to OSM are

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-27 Thread Craig Loftus
aren't tied in a traditional sense? My feeling is to just use operator=* and brewery=* as it is unrealistic represent it in more detail? Craig On 27 November 2011 11:05, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 18 November 2011 12:39, Craig Loftus craigloftus+...@googlemail.com wrote

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-27 Thread Craig Loftus
:07, Craig Loftus craigloftus+...@googlemail.com wrote: Nobody disagreed. There haven't been any other suggestions, or the objections I expected to the use of real_beer. Go on then, I'll disagree - why do we need a new key called real_beer (currently 1 use in the database) when

Re: [Talk-GB] Naptan Imports

2011-11-23 Thread Craig Loftus
Any thoughts? I don't know how the naptan data was imported to know if this is a common problem or not? It isn't a problem as such. The following tag naptan:BusStopType=CUS means that it is a customary stop, i.e., somewhere that the driver will pull over but it isn't necessarily marked on the

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-22 Thread Craig Loftus
It is a bit of an abuse of the tag, but makes sense to me, so how about brewery=no? I think this is backwards. There is nothing wrong with naming something a brewery but it not being one. The marker should be applied to the tagQuery list, similar to Keepright. You could then write more

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-18 Thread Craig Loftus
Also I haven't checked off licences - not sure what to search for? There has been a little discussion on the talk page about this. I think Andy is mainly interested in specialist shops (shop=alcohol) and noting whether they sell real ale, either draught or bottled. As a first punt I suggested

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-15 Thread Craig Loftus
to the tag just not being there), eg operator=independent (?) Adam On 14 Nov 2011, at 18:41, Craig Loftus wrote: On 14 November 2011 14:58, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: I just wondered whether when mapping breweries whether we are using name for the name of the brewery and operator

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-15 Thread Craig Loftus
sorry for entering the discussion this late, but I have just been pointed here right now because I do not usually follow talk-gb. I do however think, that this stuff should not be UK only :) I can't speak for the original poster, but I think it was perceived as a UK completeness type project,

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-15 Thread Craig Loftus
When I announced Open Brewpub Map last year some people on the German Mailinglist also started talking about how to tag ordinary breweries (there are a lot of them in Germany). This is exactly what your proposal now defines. Would you give a summary of what suggestions emerged? Or perhaps

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-15 Thread Craig Loftus
Brian Prangle wrote: Perhaps we should also have industrial=cider? It exists. The table of values on the wiki page is supposed to apply to both craft and industrial keys. Richard Fairhurst wrote (not quite fair - they do own Knights who make some decent enough, though perhaps slightly

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-14 Thread Craig Loftus
There is: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:industrial%3Dauto_wrecker and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Project/Oil_and_Gas_Infrastructur e which use the industrial key already and so far I can't find any pages using industry key (apart from the brewery page). I think that is a

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-14 Thread Craig Loftus
On 14 November 2011 14:58, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: I just wondered whether when mapping breweries whether we are using name for the name of the brewery and operator for the company that brews there. For smaller companies they may not have named their brewery, so name might do for the

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-08 Thread Craig Loftus
Who happen to be the kind of people to invent new colon-delineated key namespaces and find them easy to use, as it happens. I almost feel guilty for bring them up, but only almost because it has been illuminating. In mentioning them, apart from trying to be as open as possible, I was also

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-06 Thread Craig Loftus
If someone puts up a wiki page with the proposed tagging scheme, I will set up a renderer for it. Okay. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_Kingdom_Breweries I've tried to distil the suggestions from the whole thread copying the structure of Graham's Historic Britain project.

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-05 Thread Craig Loftus
On 4 November 2011 22:10, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 04/11/2011 10:49, Craig Loftus wrote: Using that as a basis we could tag building=distillery building=brewery building=cider_press building=perry_press How would you tag multi use buildings? For cider and perry I think

Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

2011-11-04 Thread Craig Loftus
Using that as a basis we could tag building=distillery building=brewery building=cider_press building=perry_press (that should remove any spurious entries like Brewery Apartments if we just do a search on names) Working within existing key definitions, I'm not sure this solves that

Re: [Talk-GB] Portsmouth cycle paths and routes

2011-09-23 Thread Craig Loftus
Looks like there's only partial coverage in Oxford as well... http://www.spokeseastkent.org.uk/maps/cycle-parking-heat-map/?zoom=13lat=51.75754lon=-1.2523layers=BT Really? I would have said it was pretty comprehensively mapped in Oxford. The heat-map shows nicely where all the shopping areas

Re: [Talk-GB] Portsmouth cycle paths and routes

2011-09-23 Thread Craig Loftus
PS I wonder whether the stands at Oxford Brookes Uni don’t have any capacity tags. They don’t glow anywhere near as much on the map. You're right about the Brookes stands. I've just applied for a job there, so those might see some attention soon *fingers crossed* Craig On 23 September 2011

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding new bus stops from NaPTAN

2011-09-19 Thread Craig Loftus
than one hundredth of a percent of the release? Regards, Craig On 19 September 2011 10:48, Peter J Stoner stone...@mytraveline.info wrote: In message CAK5An89pm9i_BOnCkF39wz0+THwdp6+njGN83MaEv3DXioWrgw@mail.g mail.com          Craig Loftus craigloftus+...@googlemail.com wrote: I came across

[Talk-GB] Adding new bus stops from NaPTAN

2011-09-18 Thread Craig Loftus
I came across a stop that has been added since the import, so I found the stop data in the NaPTAN release on data.gov.uk, parsed it with naptan2osm and added. Specifically: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1436667392 I just thought I'd best check that there are not objections to using

Re: [Talk-GB] hgv=unsuitable?

2011-09-09 Thread Craig Loftus
A search shows up 2 proposals that might also be of interest, although they both seem a little insane to me. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/access_restrictions_1.5 (RFC start: 2011-04-26)

[Talk-GB] Unexplained routing problem?

2011-08-20 Thread Craig Loftus
I randomly came across the following routing errors with openrouteservice.org: http://craigloftus.net/tmp/routing.png I saw the first problem with the roundabout and when trying other variations I spotted the 2nd at the bottom. I can't see anything in the data that would result in such

[Talk-GB] OS Grid Reference search Vector Map District Mirror

2011-06-21 Thread Craig Loftus
I've quickly put together a simple tool to search Nominatim for place names and return the corresponding OS Grid reference. http://craigloftus.net/os_grid/ If anyone interested or bored could try and break it, or suggest features, that would be grand. One feature I plan to implement is return

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-14 Thread Craig Loftus
Right... I'm perhaps half done, depending on how badly I've cocked up the first half. Richard can you give the following URLs a go? http://craigloftus.vmd.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/TA/TA_Airport.shp

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-14 Thread Craig Loftus
the file you want to use. I'll probably be able to sort out the listings and a search tool tomorrow. Cheers, Craig On 14 June 2011 17:39, Craig Loftus craigloftus+...@googlemail.com wrote: Right... I'm perhaps half done, depending on how badly I've cocked up the first half. Richard can you

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-13 Thread Craig Loftus
On Jun 13, 2011 8:32 PM, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: I may be showing my ignorance, but isn't S3 a virtual server that you can run code on etc? I thought that all this needs is a web (or does it have to be ftp) server? Not quite. S3 is a web storage 'solution'. It can't run

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-12 Thread Craig Loftus
Steps (a) to (e) require someone with FTP space and bandwidth to spare Roughly how much bandwidth do you think would make a worth while contribution? I'm happy to donate what ever I have remaining on my current package and upgrade within reason (with ITOs help or not). Craig

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-12 Thread Craig Loftus
On 12 June 2011 20:53, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Steps (a) to (e) require someone with FTP space and bandwidth to spare and I don't have either, or I'd have done it by now. Can you give a rough estimate for how much bandwidth would make a worthwhile contribution? I'm happy

Re: [Talk-GB] Onward travel posters

2011-06-10 Thread Craig Loftus
For those curious as to what these maps look like, here's one I photographed last week: http://www.systemeD.net/temp/onward_travel_falmouth.jpg (4.6Mb file) Thanks, I was curious. I was tempted to stroll to the station at lunch to find my local one, but it is raining now :( The rather

[Talk-GB] Closed bridges in Cumbria

2011-02-26 Thread Craig Loftus
I was just filling a gap between segments in the Cumbria Way and happened to notice there are still bridges in the Lakes with access=no tags from the November 2009 floods. I checked a few of the ones around Keswick and found council and newspaper reports stating that they had reopened, one as far

Re: [Talk-GB] Address information in MapDust bugs

2011-02-24 Thread Craig Loftus
Its quite visible in the JOSM plugin, under the address tab. Craig On 24 February 2011 13:58, Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM sk53_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 24/02/2011 13:42, Steve Doerr wrote: On 24/02/2011 13:14, Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM wrote: Recently, I have noticed a number of MapDust

Re: [Talk-GB] B72 is a wrap

2011-02-16 Thread Craig Loftus
On 16 February 2011 16:33, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: In the last few minutes; yes, thanks - I'd used boundary:fence instead of barrier:fence - doh! There is a slight problem under mapnik with this use of barrier=* http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/3395 At the moment its

Re: [Talk-GB] Update to OSM Analysis

2011-02-07 Thread Craig Loftus
Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: What I don't see is any way to indicate that the information added could benefit from a ground-survey. NaPTAN imports include the tag NaPTAN:verified=no. Should we not have something similar for data taken straight from OS Open data, regardless

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-27 Thread Craig Loftus
Ralph Smyth wrote: In terms of existing traffic count data, the problem is that generally (and indeed as is the case in Oxfordshire) it tends to be available only for A and B roads rather than many unclassified (and C) roads. I suspected the same but I hope (I haven't had chance to check)

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-25 Thread Craig Loftus
, 2011 at 01:58:43PM +, Craig Loftus wrote: I like the idea. And although I like the simplicity, I think it might be worth somehow taking account for seasonable variability. There a number of Agreed. In Cornwall, for example, roads that are very quiet for most of the year become insanely

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-20 Thread Craig Loftus
I like the idea. And although I like the simplicity, I think it might be worth somehow taking account for seasonable variability. There a number of quiet roads in the Lakes etc. atm that I wouldn't want to walk down in the summer. Perhaps the simplest approach would be using traffic:note to say

[Talk-GB] ODBL Coverage

2010-11-16 Thread Craig Loftus
I don't really want to raise the issue again but I found the new map of ODBL coverage (http://osm.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/map/) interesting as it literally highlights the effect the new license and terms will have on map coverage in the UK. The town I currently map in, Oxford, would be wiped

Re: [Talk-GB] ODBL Coverage

2010-11-16 Thread Craig Loftus
elsewhere. I'm afraid you misread Mapper J, he has no particular interest in copyright matters, but doesn't want to see his tag-fiddling, whatever its perceived value, go to waste. Cheers, Craig On 16 November 2010 13:41, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Craig Loftus wrote

[Talk-GB] Tagging fruiterers' yards

2010-10-17 Thread Craig Loftus
Does anyone have advice about how to tag a fruiterer's warehouse/yard? A fruiterer being a supplier of fruit and vegetables to shops and restaurants. shop=* doesn't seem quite right for somewhere supplying only to the trade, and probably mostly being a distribution point for deliveries. I've

Re: [Talk-GB] Coastline Tidal Positions

2010-09-16 Thread Craig Loftus
Which is more accurate: the OS Streetview data that shows MHW (spring, I assume) or the PGS data? I haven't used it for coast lines, but doesn't OS Vector District include the high water mark? This would be the most 'accurate', although not necessarily the most 'correct' source? Certainly

Re: [Talk-GB] Contacting OS about errors in their data

2010-06-09 Thread Craig Loftus
Perhaps OS would be good enough to edit the appropriate way to remove the not:name tag? It would seem like the 'least they could do' in return for having the error pointed out to them. One of the few benefits I hope to see from the Tories Big Society cuts will be some kind of closer relationship

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView

2010-05-05 Thread Craig Loftus
OSM has the apostrophe after being surveyed to check (thanks Craig!). Although I did make the correction and a number of other; this instance wasn't based on a ground survey, I just decide it made sense. The track runs passed a cemetery which indicates that it is is holiness himself that owns

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView

2010-05-05 Thread Craig Loftus
were originally talking about St-as-in-Saint! Tim -Original Message- From: Richard Mann [mailto:richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com] Sent: 05 May 2010 12:17 To: Tim Francois Cc: Craig Loftus; talk-gb OSM List (E-mail) Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView Follow

[Talk-GB] Rolling-back my changesets?

2010-04-29 Thread Craig Loftus
permission to trace and use a map 'owned' by the University of Bath but it transpires they don't have the right to grant that permission... If someone can reply with a map mods. email address that I can chase up with that would be appreciated. Sorry Craig Loftus