Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-02 Thread Nick Whitelegg
The main problem with the wiki page is that it didn't distinguish between an official public footpath and a way which is there on the ground, but has no known designation or right of way status.  (Or else the page just didn't cover that case, even though it is by far the most common.) Again this

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-02 Thread Ed Avis
Nick Whitelegg Nick.Whitelegg@... writes: The main problem with the wiki page is that it didn't distinguish between an official public footpath and a way which is there on the ground, but has no known designation or right of way status. my usual approach to the above is to tag with

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-02 Thread Richard Mann
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: I was thinking of cities.  There are all sorts of paths between buildings, pedestrian shortcuts, even walkways inside shopping centres and so on. I believe these should be tagged as highway=footway and should not have any

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-02 Thread Ed Avis
Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxford@... writes: There are all sorts of paths between buildings, pedestrian shortcuts, even walkways inside shopping centres and so on. As per my original post, I think the wiki ought to record the dominant usage. I think plain highway=footway is dominant for

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-02 Thread monxton
On 01/03/2011 13:31, Richard Mann wrote: A new page seems to have appeared on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines This states a preference for highway=path+foot=designated over highway=footway (etc). I don't remember this being discussed or agreed,

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-02 Thread monxton
On 01/03/2011 17:55, Andrew wrote: The great strength of OSM is that it can be a platform for many (and hopefully more to come) applications written by people all round the world. Country-specific tagging guidelines make it more difficult to share applications with the rest of the world.

[Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Richard Mann
A new page seems to have appeared on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines This states a preference for highway=path+foot=designated over highway=footway (etc). I don't remember this being discussed or agreed, but my memory could be failing me. I think

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Tom Chance
On 1 March 2011 13:31, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.comwrote: A new page seems to have appeared on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines This states a preference for highway=path+foot=designated over highway=footway (etc). I don't

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Tom Chance
On 1 March 2011 14:00, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: At risk of opening this discussion again ... You do need some way to distinguish between official and unofficial rights of way though. Nick, we do indeed, and I agree the original tagging has its flaws. The question

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Nick Whitelegg
: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote: On 1 March 2011 14:00, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: At risk of opening this discussion again ... You do need some way to distinguish between official

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Dave F.
On 01/03/2011 14:24, Richard Mann wrote: designation=* is now standing at 22000 uses, highway=path+foot=designated at 5500 uses Not quite settled, but bubbling along nicely. Potlatch has changed it's defaults for footpaths from foot=yes to access=designated (Designated button), or access=yes

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Dave F. wrote: Potlatch has changed it's defaults for footpaths from foot=yes to access=designated (Designated button), or access=yes (Allowed button) in version 2. Eeek, has it? I shall look at that... cheers Richard who also strongly dislikes the prissy 'highway=path+access tags' system

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Andrew
Nick Whitelegg Nick.Whitelegg@... writes: Tom,Nick, we do indeed, and I agree the original tagging has its flaws.The question Richard posed is simply whether it's premature to suggest that the newer proposal should be documented as the appropriate schema.Just to clarify I was not responsible

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Nick Whitelegg
eetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb The great strength of OSM is that it can be a platform for many (and hopefully more to come) applications written by people all round the world. Country-specific tagging guidelines make it more difficult to share applications with the rest of the world. I'm not so

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I think foot=designated should *only* be used where you have definite evidence of a pedestrian right of way. Or am I confusing foot=designated with designation=public_footpath?  The latter is what I have used until now for public footpaths, and seems unambiguous enough that it won't get tagged

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Andrew andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: The great strength of OSM is that it can be a platform for many (and hopefully more to come) applications written by people all round the world. Country-specific tagging guidelines make it more difficult to share

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Ed Loach
Nick wrote: designation=public_footpath has, from what I can make out, largely replaced its deprecated (maybe a bit strong a term) predecessor foot=designated. I use designation for things like public footpath, and foot=designated where there is one of the blue road signs with a pedestrian

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Richard Mann
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: I use designation for things like public footpath, and foot=designated where there is one of the blue road signs with a pedestrian on (either footway, or shared use cycleway). Ah - you follow the German tagging guidelines...

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Ed Loach
Ah - you follow the German tagging guidelines... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:highway%3Dpath Well, no. I rarely use highway=path. I use it where there is clearly a path (such as one mown through grassland in a nature reserve by the council) but no official signage, or where there

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Andy Street
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 19:26 +, Andy Allan wrote: On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Andrew andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: The great strength of OSM is that it can be a platform for many (and hopefully more to come) applications written by people all round the world.

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Ed Avis
The main problem with the wiki page is that it didn't distinguish between an official public footpath and a way which is there on the ground, but has no known designation or right of way status. (Or else the page just didn't cover that case, even though it is by far the most common.) I've