Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread Tom Hughes
On 18/09/09 10:33, David Earl wrote: Tom - this is persistent continuous abuse. I really think we have to block his IP address until such time as we can work out how to deal with the edits. They are just so pervasive and destructive. We've discussed suspending his account and the chances of

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread Peter Childs
2009/9/18 David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com: ***PLEASE*** PULL THE PLUG ON HIM! Is it a good idea to remove the Live Change Feature in Potlatch for everyone. I'm thinking this is the cause for a lot of our problems. I can't see why anyone would want it any more anyway. Its a dangerous

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread Lennard
Tom Hughes wrote: I have repeatedly stated that I am not prepared to block people on my own. Get the DWG to order him blocked and I will happily do so. Not to Tom personally, but: Can the DWG then finally speak up to acknowledge publicly that they *are* working on this case? And about

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread David Earl
On 18/09/2009 11:17, Lennard wrote: And about removal/deactivation/hiding of Potlatch's live editing mode: yes, please. We've had a case in Belgium as well, recently, of someone dicking about in live mode, apparently unaware of the destructive nature of their actions. +1 But I don't think

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote: 2009/9/18 David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com: ***PLEASE*** PULL THE PLUG ON HIM! Is it a good idea to remove the Live Change Feature in Potlatch for everyone. I'm thinking this is the cause for a lot of our problems.

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Peter Childs wrote: Is it a good idea to remove the Live Change Feature in Potlatch for everyone. I'm thinking this is the cause for a lot of our problems. I can't see why anyone would want it any more anyway. Its a dangerous feature without a purpose. *shrugs* You've already made

[Talk-GB] OSM Mapper

2009-09-18 Thread Peter Miller
Just to say that we have just updated the data in OSM Mapper from the 8th Sept to the 18th Sept. A huge apology for what I believe is the longest interval between updates that we have ever had. There are a couple of reasons for this. Firstly, the import time is increasing dramatically.

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Mapper

2009-09-18 Thread David Earl
Well done, and congratulations! I saw the feed come through earlier on this morning and have been working through reviewing the changes in my area. In my so far futile attempts to reload the namefinder index, I've found the same thing - the time to reload seems to be exponential with the size.

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:26 AM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: On 18/09/2009 10:53, Tom Hughes wrote: On 18/09/09 10:33, David Earl wrote: Tom - this is persistent continuous abuse. I really think we have to block his IP address until such time as we can work out how to deal

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread Tom Hughes
On 18/09/09 11:26, David Earl wrote: On 18/09/2009 10:53, Tom Hughes wrote: On 18/09/09 10:33, David Earl wrote: ***PLEASE*** PULL THE PLUG ON HIM! I have repeatedly stated that I am not prepared to block people on my own. Get the DWG to order him blocked and I will happily do so. How?

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread Nick Whitelegg
We seem unable to contact Liam123 via normal channels. This means we have to think of other ways of contacting members who continually put mistakes into the dataset. Is it not possible to put a flag on his account, so when he logs in he is told what he has been doing and asked to explain himself?

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread Someoneelse
Lennard wrote: They would be easier to fix if people didn't start reverting his changes by hand the moment he does them, which is what currently prevents a clean revert of his latest changesets. That could be difficult - it would mean saying to people in potentially a wide area please

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread Tom Hughes
On 18/09/09 12:13, Dave Stubbs wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Brian Pranglebpran...@googlemail.com wrote: I may be being a simpleton but can't we just disable write privileges for this user to the database? Then he can continue editing but it all has no effect If somebody writes

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread David Earl
On 18/09/2009 12:13, Dave Stubbs wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Brian Prangle bpran...@googlemail.com wrote: I may be being a simpleton but can't we just disable write privileges for this user to the database? Then he can continue editing but it all has no effect If somebody

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread John McKerrell
Ok, turns out it's not so hard to upload ~20GB of data. The files are now available on the following web address. I'm not really sure how well my server's going to handle this so please, don't go too crazy, please don't download the tar files if you don't really need them or aren't likely

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread Someoneelse
David Earl wrote: ***PLEASE*** PULL THE PLUG ON HIM! Does anyone know if there are any discussions ongoing about what restrictions might be put in place on newly registered user who e.g. haven't uploaded any tracks and suddenly start editing in a wide area, to avoid whack-a-mole problems?

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread Frankie Roberto
2009/9/18 John McKerrell j...@mckerrell.net URL for the files is: http://78.46.66.234/ Nice. What are the latest thoughts on how best to use these for tracing / mapping? It'd be great to be able to use some of them in Potlatch - even if it's just one or two of the more top-down ones to start

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread Matt Williams
2009/9/18 Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk: I'm sorry if I seem frustrated by this, but it is because I am. We've all spent thousands of hours each on this, and this guy is undermining everything we've all done. Even though it's not my area (though close), it completely destroys any

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread Peter Miller
On 18 Sep 2009, at 12:43, Frankie Roberto wrote: 2009/9/18 John McKerrell j...@mckerrell.net URL for the files is: http://78.46.66.234/ Nice. What are the latest thoughts on how best to use these for tracing / mapping? It'd be great to be able to use some of them in Potlatch - even if

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread Frankie Roberto
2009/9/18 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com Here is what I have managed to do so far with Warper. The rectification algorithm is a little flakey and sometimes it goes banannas when one adds another control point. http://warper.geothings.net/layers/21 Nice I believe it should be

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread Richard Mann
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.comwrote: I agree. I think it would be even more useful to be able to quarantine particular users changesets for manual review so the could be let through in the end - though there's all the problems of conflicting changes

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread Peter Miller
On 18 Sep 2009, at 14:53, Andy Allan wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Frankie Roberto fran...@frankieroberto.com wrote: I believe it should be possible to use this in Potlatch somehow but haven't figured it out. Some of the link from Warper result in errors. I tried using some

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: I agree. I think it would be even more useful to be able to quarantine particular users changesets for manual review so

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Frankie Roberto fran...@frankieroberto.com wrote: I believe it should be possible to use this in Potlatch somehow but haven't figured it out. Some of the link from Warper result in errors. I tried using some of these links:

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Frankie Roberto wrote: Have copied chippy and RichardF in, in the hope that they can help us connect things up. Potlatch doesn't do WMS, it only does 900913 tiles (like OSM itself). You specify them in this

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frankie Roberto wrote: Have copied chippy and RichardF in, in the hope that they can help us connect things up. Potlatch doesn't do WMS, it only does 900913 tiles (like OSM itself). You specify them in this format: http://tiles.mytileserver.org/directory/!/!/!.png where !, !, ! are

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread WessexMario
Peter Miller wrote: 'data protection', 'data monitoring' and 'data moderation' all seem to be good. 'data protection' might be confused with 'Data Protection Act', ie, legal data issues ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread Peter Miller
On 18 Sep 2009, at 17:33, Godfrey Bartlett wrote: 'data protection', 'data monitoring' and 'data moderation' all seem to be good. 'data protection' might be confused with 'Data Protection Act', ie, legal data issues This discussion reminds me of Douglas Adams' Restaurant at the End of

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Dave Stubbs wrote: The problem needs fixing with better tools for sorting out mess, not more weird and wonderful metrics for getting in people's way. +1 Whenever a vandal pops up, we have tons of people coming up with tons of cool measures to shoot oneself in the foot, and if they had

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread Matt Williams
2009/9/18 Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com: On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Frankie Roberto wrote: Have copied chippy and RichardF in, in the hope that they can help us connect things up. Potlatch doesn't do WMS, it only does 900913 tiles

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread John McKerrell
On 18 Sep 2009, at 19:27, Matt Williams wrote: A random selection of vertical(ish) photos: 113-124 (all of one single area) 127 149 628,632,633,636,637,638 (all of the centre near the bridges) I agree a systematic approach to tagging all the photos would be better (anyone want to code up

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread John McKerrell
On 18 Sep 2009, at 19:44, John McKerrell wrote: On 18 Sep 2009, at 19:27, Matt Williams wrote: A random selection of vertical(ish) photos: 113-124 (all of one single area) 127 149 628,632,633,636,637,638 (all of the centre near the bridges) I agree a systematic approach to tagging all

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread Matt Williams
2009/9/18 John McKerrell j...@mckerrell.net: On 18 Sep 2009, at 19:44, John McKerrell wrote: On 18 Sep 2009, at 19:27, Matt Williams wrote: A random selection of vertical(ish) photos: 113-124 (all of one single area) 127 149 628,632,633,636,637,638 (all of the centre near the bridges)

[Talk-GB] Verticality metre, was: Re: OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread Matt Williams
2009/9/18 Matt Williams li...@milliams.com: 2009/9/18 John McKerrell j...@mckerrell.net: On 18 Sep 2009, at 19:44, John McKerrell wrote: On 18 Sep 2009, at 19:27, Matt Williams wrote: A random selection of vertical(ish) photos: 113-124 (all of one single area) 127 149

Re: [Talk-GB] Verticality metre, was: Re: OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread Chris Hill
Matt Williams wrote: 2009/9/18 Matt Williams li...@milliams.com: 2009/9/18 John McKerrell j...@mckerrell.net: On 18 Sep 2009, at 19:44, John McKerrell wrote: On 18 Sep 2009, at 19:27, Matt Williams wrote: A random selection of vertical(ish) photos: 113-124 (all of

Re: [Talk-GB] Verticality metre, was: Re: OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread John Robert Peterson
it's an eliptiacal galaxy viewed edge on with no bulge... JR 2009/9/18 Matt Williams li...@milliams.com 2009/9/18 Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net: Does it need a checkbox for sheep? Damn! I knew I'd forgotten something :) -- Matt Williams http://milliams.com

[Talk-GB] RR8

2009-09-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Could someone in the Nottinghamshire area, or other area being edited by RR8, tell me if his/her changes are still revert-worthy vandalism or has he/she progressed to useful changes? cheers Richard ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] RR8

2009-09-18 Thread Someoneelse
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Could someone in the Nottinghamshire area, or other area being edited by RR8, tell me if his/her changes are still revert-worthy vandalism or has he/she progressed to useful changes? I had a look at some of yesterday's changes - the road classification changes

Re: [Talk-GB] Verticality metre, was: Re: OpenStreetMap's first flight!

2009-09-18 Thread Matt Williams
I had a request for adding the points to a map so I've added that at http://milliams.com/verticalitymetre/map.html. The stats page can also now be sorted in different ways and is colourised to make it pretty. At the moment, about a quarter of the images have been tagged and I'd guess that easily