Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-13 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 13/08/2020 15:41, Simon Still wrote: So my understanding is that OSM normally only maps what’s actually on the ground rather than what might be shown on a map (and there was some discussion recently about this - https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-gb@openstreetmap.org/msg19303.html) This

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-13 Thread John Aldridge
On 8/13/2020 3:41 PM, Simon Still wrote: Width of cycleyway is definitely useful if separated from traffic but some way of reflecting the comfort of the riding experience on marked routes would be a big step forward. Traffic Volumes,. Lane widths, traffic speed all contribute (as does

Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-13 Thread Nick
I am using the UPRN data in QGIS and checking each manually on https://osg.scot/portal/ (e.g. UPRN: 137090388). That of course does not identify if it is historic and what it is assigned to (the UPRN open data is a point not polygon) On 13/08/2020 15:52, Mark Goodge wrote: On 13/08/2020

Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-13 Thread Mark Goodge
On 13/08/2020 15:30, Nick wrote: On delving deeper, it looks as if my comment is a load of rubbish. UPRNs that are listed do include huge numbers of adopted roads - so if we could have a list of these and other 'non-addressable' UPRNs, it would help users identify relevant ones How are you

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-13 Thread Simon Still
> On 13 Aug 2020, at 11:41, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) > wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 at 14:49, Richard Fairhurst wrote: >> ... However, note that the "removed" > sections mostly won't be reflected on the ground yet. Also, the > dataset isn't perfect, as there's at least one bit near me

Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-13 Thread Nick
On delving deeper, it looks as if my comment is a load of rubbish. UPRNs that are listed do include huge numbers of adopted roads - so if we could have a list of these and other 'non-addressable' UPRNs, it would help users identify relevant ones On 13/08/2020 14:08, Nick wrote: Lester makes a

Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-13 Thread Mark Goodge
On 13/08/2020 13:34, I wrote: The TOIDs in those datasets can then be cross-referenced against OS OpenNames to give the OS name for the linked USRNs. Although this isn't, always, the same as the official USRN name of the street, which can be confusing. But that's because OS (like OSM) maps

Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-13 Thread Nick
Lester makes a very valid point - the UPRNs relating to roads/streets are probably not adopted (certainly the example that I cited in Fife is not adopted) On 13/08/2020 11:21, Lester Caine wrote: On 13/08/2020 10:55, SK53 wrote: That was me too, I would have added the USRN if I'd had it

Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-13 Thread Mark Goodge
On 13/08/2020 11:25, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 16:56, SK53 wrote: OpenRoads from the Ordnance Survey contains a field containing the toid for the street name. I wonder if we should include these alongside usrn & uprn. They may be more useful than either for

Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-13 Thread SK53
These toids are for the name rather than the physical street - I'm not interested in toids in general. It is their potential utility in disambiguating streets which I'm interested in (although as the Derby Road case I cited is one I'm particularly interested in - it splits multiple times, has dual

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-13 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 at 14:49, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Sustrans' own website mapping has just been updated to take account of this, > which you can see at https://osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/ncn . The dashed > lines are reclassified, while some sections have been removed entirely. > > It's

Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-13 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-08-13 12:25, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 16:56, SK53 wrote: > >> OpenRoads from the Ordnance Survey contains a field containing the toid for >> the street name. I wonder if we should include these alongside usrn & uprn. >> They may be more useful than

Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-13 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 16:56, SK53 wrote: > OpenRoads from the Ordnance Survey contains a field containing the toid for > the street name. I wonder if we should include these alongside usrn & uprn. > They may be more useful than either for gathering complex roads which share a > name. I'd

Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-13 Thread Lester Caine
On 13/08/2020 10:55, SK53 wrote: That was me too, I would have added the USRN if I'd had it immediately accessible. My understanding is that UPRNs do apply to roads, but have much to learn about them. I've added them to a couple of others at Cinderhill which is housing built on open fields so

Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-13 Thread SK53
That was me too, I would have added the USRN if I'd had it immediately accessible. My understanding is that UPRNs do apply to roads, but have much to learn about them. I've added them to a couple of others at Cinderhill which is housing built on open fields so no historical properties there.