Re: [Talk-GB] SotM shirts to the UK
Now available to order!!! *£11 including delivery* I spent too long trying to navigate the options for setting up a site. Streetshirts ended up being the best to go with amongst all the conditions, there's links to various options on the wiki here... https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_2020/Tshirt_shop_organization#Europe *Deadline is 29th June*, hopefully to get to you before the conference. I'm going to look elsewhere at buying a run of stickers and organise it on the basis of: send me a nice message, I'll put some in the post. Watch this space for confirmation of that. Gregory. On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 12:40, Dan S wrote: > Hi Gregory > > Aha, thanks for checking it out! I would be one happy customer. > > (FWIW, I used Teemill for one design* - expensive print-on-demand £19 > but with good ethical credentials.) > > Cheers > Dan > > * https://digitalcommoner.teemill.com/ > > > > > Op ma 22 jun. 2020 om 11:16 schreef Gregory Marler >: > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > This year State of the Map (SotM) conference is virtual, so you don't > need to travel to attend! Instead of getting a shirt at the registration > desk, volunteers are being asked to setup regional online shops[1]. > > > > I did contact the SotM 2013 Birmingham supplier[2]. However to do them > well we'd need a minimum of 25, and it would cost about £8 + £6 postage per > shirt. Deadline to place orders would be the end of this weekend if you > want them in time to watch the conference. We concluded the postage cost > and the rush makes this not the best deal for OSMers. > > > > I'll see if someone sets up a section in one of the big custom-print > sites for Europe (that covers the UK), or I might look at helping with that > myself. > > > > Watch this space! > > > > > > Gregory (LivingWithDragons) > > > > [1] T-shirt shop organisation > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_2020/Tshirt_shop_organization > > [2] https://www.movingforwardsports.co.uk/ > > ___ > > Talk-GB mailing list > > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > -- Gregory Marler No More Grapes 07939 689 691 i...@nomoregrapes.com http://www.nomoregrapes.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] SotM shirts to the UK
Hello everyone, This year State of the Map (SotM) conference is virtual, so you don't need to travel to attend! Instead of getting a shirt at the registration desk, volunteers are being asked to setup regional online shops[1]. I did contact the SotM 2013 Birmingham supplier[2]. However to do them well we'd need a minimum of 25, and it would cost about £8 + £6 postage per shirt. Deadline to place orders would be the end of this weekend if you want them in time to watch the conference. We concluded the postage cost and the rush makes this not the best deal for OSMers. I'll see if someone sets up a section in one of the big custom-print sites for Europe (that covers the UK), or I might look at helping with that myself. Watch this space! Gregory (LivingWithDragons) [1] T-shirt shop organisation https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_2020/Tshirt_shop_organization [2] https://www.movingforwardsports.co.uk/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] COVID road changes
Has anyone been adding any tagging to designate these as Covid-19 temporary blocks? It would make it interesting to see the amount of change, but also allow us to check which ones haven't been reverted when able. Gregory. On Fri, 12 Jun 2020, 01:23 Robert Skedgell, wrote: > On 11/06/2020 23:35, Stephen Colebourne wrote: > > Hi, > > It seems that COVID is likely to result in some rapid changes to road > > networks, which OSM will need to capture. > > > > I saw a tweet today of the area around the Bank of England, and a road > > is now one way with a cycle lane the other way. Obviously I can't > > survey that right now, but Google Maps traffic layer is showing it. > > Really it needs someone to do a survey (unless we can use the City of > > London documentation). > > > > More generally, I guess we will all need to keep an eye on proposals > > from each council. For example, here is a tweet from last month about > > 50 modal filters (road closures) in just Croydon and Lambeth: > > https://twitter.com/MeristemDesign/status/1260339305261785088 showing > > the scale of the task here. > > > > Stephen > > > I'm following a feed from The Gazette for traffic orders in London which > need to be mapped. When MacLondon doesn't get there first, I've either > been adding notes, putting in changes using the proposed: namespace, or > setting a reminder in my calendar for the start date, as appropriate. > The data are released under OGL v3.0 and can sometimes be used for > updates without a survey being essential. > > This will show notices for "Cycle tracks, bus lanes & tramways" and > "Road restrictions": > > https://www.thegazette.co.uk/all-notices/notice?results-page-size=50=1=1=latest-date=G408040001+G408040004=all-notices > > -- > Robert Skedgell (rskedgell) > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon pickup lockers - how to represent (if at all)?
Remember that features in OpenStreetMap are not only useful for finding those features. If you know a region has the pickup lockers all mapped, you could do analysis such as density of their locations (do they favour more expensive neighbourhoods, or how accessible are they by traffic-free cycle routes, and so forth). You could even start looking at history of where they've been removed or how they've increased in number. This is not so possible by the list you select from when making a purchase. Gregory. On Wed, 1 Jan 2020, 12:43 Philip Barnes, wrote: > They are certainly not post boxes, I have used amenity=vending_machine, > vending=parcel_pickup which is a combination that probably came from > asking on #osm. > > > For example my local one https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5978482863 > > https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Pna indicates the taging has a fair amount > of useage. > > HTH > Phil (trigpoint) > > > > On Wed, 2020-01-01 at 12:18 +, Dan Glover wrote: > > Please forgive me if this is has been debated previously - I'm new > > here > > and having trouble finding a searchable archive for this list. > > > > A local mapper has added an Amazon "Hub Locker", tagged as > > amenity=post_box. This causes it to flag as an anomaly when > > comparing > > against Royal Mail data. My view is this is not a "post box" since > > it > > forms part of delivery rather than collection arrangements. > > > > However I can see there may be some benefit in mapping such > > facilities, > > albeit anyone wanting to use it will need to make advance > > arrangements > > with Amazon and chose from a list of locations. This is a different > > situation to Royal Mail where there is no official "post box finder" > > and > > one is at liberty to use any convenient box at any time. Searching > > the > > OSM Wiki doesn't seem to provide any specific guidance but hints > > that > > Amazon might be persuaded to contribute the locations directly, > > since > > they are apparently both consumers and contributors to OSM. > > > > Arguably parcel drop-off points for Hermes and so forth might be > > suitable for inclusion, though they're not a stand-alone feature but > > part of facilities at a premises and again require advance action by > > the > > user to select . > > > > Is there existing policy/guidance/consensus and if not, what is the > > best > > way to proceed? > > > > > > Dan > > > > ___ > > Talk-GB mailing list > > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Tintagel bridge
I think the most active Cornwall mappers are further South (around Falmouth and The Lizard). Some of them are focused are lot on foreign humanitarian mapping but also do some mapping locally. There are also some mappers who travel to Cornwall regularly but don't live there. On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 12:14, ael wrote: > On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 07:23:00AM +0100, Jez Nicholson wrote: > > Has anyone prepared Tintagel bridge? Opening on Sunday. > > As far as I can see, we don't have any local mappers. Perhaps I may > have missed some. > > I am in Cornwall just now, and *might* be able to do a proper survey > but it is fair distance and it probably won't happen. Anyone in that > area? > > ael > > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > -- Gregory Marler No More Grapes 07939 689 691 i...@nomoregrapes.com http://www.nomoregrapes.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping at Moira, NW Leicestershire.
Not being completely shameless, it seems appropriate to plug the "Mapper Diaries" I've been doing... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOzESllbuA8MvERQYiO0KuA/videos Many of the videos are me talking as if someone has tagged along to my mapping. I'm slowly getting used to doing that in public, but you also get to see me editing when back home. Possibly helpful for people that don't find a local mapping community. Both the West Midlands group and Nottingham pub meets move around. They may be open to doing a meetup closer if you get in touch with them. All the best, Gregory. On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 at 12:12, Gareth L wrote: > Hi Graham, > > There’s a couple local Osm mapping groups which also do meet ups. They are > http://www.mappa-mercia.org/ (slightly West Midlands focussed but you’re > not far!) and also a meet-up in derby/Nottingham that is more East Midlands > focussed. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nottingham/Pub_Meetup > > Anything you’re unsure of how to do you can leave map notes on the map > with details and/or contribute data through street level imagery services > like mapillary. > > Also, I use https://tyrasd.github.io/latest-changes/#13/52.7481/-1.5156 to > see who has been contributing near me, and what. It can give me ideas on > what to do next. > > Welcome > Gareth > > On 27 Jul 2019, at 08:16, Graham Bowers wrote: > > Is anybody local mapping here that I could tag along with to learn the > ropes please? > My activity thus far has been editing the cycling infrastructure to allow > routing websites to route correctly. > There is construction activity in the area that does need mapping and does > have cycling infrastructure impact but it's more than I's wish to tackle > without knowing quite a bit more than I do now. > Thanks > Graham > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > -- Gregory Marler No More Grapes 07939 689 691 i...@nomoregrapes.com http://www.nomoregrapes.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon Logistics edits
I've exchanged a number of messages with the Amazon mappers and their team lead Jothirnadh. First of all, if anything isn't quite right then I would encourage the person who spots it to... a) contact the editor about it (or better if you post a comment on the changeset) b) add tags yourself to further clarify the way (OSM is a wiki). c) a combination of the above. Amazon are using OpenStreetMap (great) and they are putting in some work to improve it (great). They've been a bit behind on widely communicating with the community, but they are slowly getting better. They're also working in a number of countries, where similar concerns are coming up, and they're replying in similar ways. They are keen to learn and do better. Communication certainly helps people get better. Most (all?) of us have had something we've learnt from other mappers. Often we don't know a tag is used, or we don't know the map data is used in a certain way. Amazon obviously have their specific interests in mapping, but so do all of us. You're unlikely to see me adding tags for voltage of an electricity line, but you may see me add the pylon. Happy mapping everyone, Gregory. On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 13:10, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: > I'm aware how construction sites work. > > Trades will occasionally have small items delivered, especially if > specialized or in an emergency. A foreman I know had his kid's > Christmas present sent to site to keep the surprise. > > Please provide an OSM link to the site. > > DaveF > > On 29/07/2019 12:25, ael via Talk-GB wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 11:39:11AM +0100, Dave F wrote: > >> Construction areas aren't inaccessible. They have constant traffic of > >> deliveries. > > This construction area is inaccesible for anything but large specialist > > vehicles with all-terrain tyres. The construction workers are all > > instructed to ask visitors to leave. There are locked gates, only > > unlocked for construction vehicles to get through. It is a Health and > > Safety issue, I suspect, and probably required by their insurance > > company. No doubt there are deliveries to the peripheral areas, but > > that is nearly always by specialist building supplies companies with > > suitable vehicles. I spoke informally in context, so it seems a bit > > picky to question this. The particular roads that they marked > > (residential, as I recall) were at that time bare ground tracks, fenced > > off and were being used for access to other parts by the construction > > vehicles. Those details could not be seen on the satelite imagery which > > happened to have very recent updates in this area. Later they will > > presumably be surfaced and become proper roads: the developers gave me a > > copy of their plans. As I recall, they are now tagged corrected as > > construction roads. As far as I am concerned, I don't think an access > > tag on construction roads makes sense in any normal situation. > > Construction implies that the access will vary over time. > > > >> Please provide a link. > > The link is my personal knowledge and my regular visits on bicycle with > > gps. I occasionally do enter such areas to get a gps trace in advance of > > the completion of the roads, but only with great care and caution, and > > always leave if and when asked to do so. Sometimes site-managers give me > > permission to collect a trace when I explain what I am doing. > > > > Are you telling me that Amazon have driven a large non-construction > > vehicle on these unfinished roads with locked gates and construction > > workers around in working hours? > > > > ael > > > > > > ___ > > Talk-GB mailing list > > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > -- Gregory Marler No More Grapes 07939 689 691 i...@nomoregrapes.com http://www.nomoregrapes.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] UK coastline data
I have been seeing a lot of flooded tiles over the last week. Of course doing a Cntrl+F5 on my browser refreshes the old tiles, so it's not terrible. Hopefully the current work now is avoiding that happening, as the country "flooded" can look bad to new viewers. It was also annoying when I was out of signal and OsmAnd seemed to have some tiles flooded. For river coastlines, I believe The Thames is tidal as up as Teddington lock. That would be even more excessive/impractical than Totnes, and have all of central London be "by the sea". For oddities with tidal marks, I don't know if the "Loe Bar" provides anything interesting. It's a sand bar, on one side is the coast and on the other is "The Loe" freshwater lake. Thanks for your detailed help. Gregory. On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 at 07:46, Devonshire wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019, at 10:41 PM, Borbus wrote: > > > The Dart cuts the coastline off right at the mouth, which doesn't seem > right... > > > I think the main reason I did that back in the day is that mapping > coastline all the way up to Totnes seems extremely non-intuitive. Someone > standing on Totnes quay (10 miles inland) is not standing on the coast in > any meaningful way. > > I don't really care either way but what would be the benefit of changing > it to coastline (and slavishly copying the OS is not a benefit) ? > > Kevin > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > -- Gregory Marler No More Grapes 07939 689 691 i...@nomoregrapes.com http://www.nomoregrapes.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OSMUK
Is anyone planning on doing some mapping as part of this? So far I've only seen minor edits from Amazon Logistics staff. They weren't aware of the Mapathon until I sent them a message with some links, so there's been no deliberate focus. Previously I invited them to the OSM UK event, which they don't intend to go to but will be at Stat of the Map in Germany. >From Durham, Gregory. On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 at 09:21, Jez Nicholson wrote: > With a fairly low-key start, OSMUK are beginning a series of > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_24_hour_mapathons today, 12 June > 2019. > > Similar to the Quarterly Project we aren't forcing this in a particular > direction by lots of planning upfront. The process will evolve over time. > In fact, you could discuss that on the 'talk' pages, or here (and then > write up?). > > Regards, > Jez > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > -- Gregory Marler No More Grapes 07939 689 691 i...@nomoregrapes.com http://www.nomoregrapes.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Farmland (crop or animals)?
What is going on with landuse=farmland, and what are we going to do? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmland It had a classic "map for the renderer" and "no blank spots on the map" problem. Armchair mappers found it important to map large swathes of farmland, which I don't think added much. The default style helped by making it a very subtle colour. It was always land that is used for tillage(crops) or pasture(animals). There was some thought to add tagging of crop=yes or animal=* to be more specific if desired. I have then started seeing people map a lot of landuse=meadow. I disagreed, but it seems the wiki page was changed in November. I don't think there was any discussion, and Harry even clarified the wording in December. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Alanduse%3Dfarmland=revision=1689614=1663478 To me, meadow is a different to the common farm fields that have animals in. A meadow is likely longer grass, or encouraged to get long. It might be for flowers/wildlife rather than animals. Most importantly, this is going to cause confusion and disparity over what is being mapped and how/why. >From Durham, Gregory. -- Gregory Marler ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] London venues
I (somewhat in the capacity as an OSM UK director) have been invited to visit Geovation, and I don't think there is much of a hatchet left to bury. I could ask our contacts if an event at Geovation would be suitable and possible. For the Queen's birthday I don't think there would be a lot of added issue, apart from certain parts of London (like Victoria, Green Park, etc). The 8th was partially to avoid following the bank holiday weekend, as that might more of you and cheap train tickets unavailable. We also thought London might be good for it's central location in the South of the UK. Last year we spent a lot of time voting and considering the best city. >From up North, Gregory. On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 13:10, wrote: > It could make reasonably priced trains hard to come by. > > Phil (trigpoint) > > On Thursday, 14 March 2019, Tony Shield wrote: > > FYI > > > > Saturday 8 June is the Queens Birthday - Trooping the Colour occurs. > > Don't know London well enough to know if this could be disruptive. > > > > TonyS > > > > On 13/03/2019 23:14, Rob Nickerson wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > For the next OSM UK annual general meeting we thought we would try > > > London as a possible location. Does anyone know of good (and cheap) > > > venues that we can use? We have 100 members but would expect the > > > number to actually attend would be in the region of 20-30 unless > > > paired with a significant other event. > > > > > > Dates: We are thinking Saturday 8 June as a starting point but can > > > move to other Saturdays if venue availability is better. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > *Rob* > > > > > > P.S. Plans for a Bristol event are still in the works. This has taken > > > longer than we had hoped as it is a joint event. Hopefully some news > > > on it shortly. > > > > > > ___ > > > Talk-GB mailing list > > > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > > -- > Sent from my Sailfish device > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > -- Gregory Marler No More Grapes 07939 689 691 i...@nomoregrapes.com http://www.nomoregrapes.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Checking UK Towns
You might spot my recent map edits with a changeset such as... "*Checking data and relations for towns in Lincolnshire. This changeset forms part of paid work to improve OpenStreetMap data. #UKTownCheck #OrganisedEditing*" A small amount of my time has been funded by Open Cage Data to check towns in the UK. Ideally it should be possible to get a town as both a node and a relation. I've been going through a list of towns where this isn't the case. I've been doing a single county per changeset to avoid it being a mess to follow. In a lot of cases the towns nicely relate to parish wards (admin_level=10). Sometimes I just need to add the town node as an admin_centre member of the relation. Other times the "outer" parts of the relation are not in order. In some cases, the town has a distinct area but not a simple parish ward (the previous parish might have ceased to be). I have created some relations with boundary=place, place=town, admin_level=11. I've even found some town nodes that are complete tagging for the renderer. They should have been something like place=suburb. So far it's been very insightful to do this for several areas around the UK. I don't think I'll manage the whole country within the funded time. I intended to properly report on what i've done and what I've found. Gregory. -- Gregory Marler ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] account disabled due to bounces
If this is a regular question then it would be good to also explain it on the wiki Either https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists or the discussion page of that. Gregory. On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 10:24, Brian Prangle wrote: > Could you give us at least one of the five hundred links? > > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 10:14, Tom Hughes wrote: > >> Not really, it's gmail obeying the insane instructions (via DMARC etc) >> of other ISPs like Yahoo. >> >> See the five hundred previous times when I have explained it in detail. >> >> Tom >> >> On 14/01/2019 10:03, Tony Shield wrote: >> > Me Too. On Sunday night. I assume its Gmail. >> > >> > Looking on internet its the GMail server 'bouncing' traffic, this is >> > almost certainly a GMail setting which causes the bounce which causes >> > the OSM mail program to disconnect 'bounced' e-mail addresses. >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Tony >> > >> > >> > >> > On 14/01/2019 09:50, Chris Fleming wrote: >> >> Yup same here. Although I had assumed that it was because I forward my >> >> mail to gmail. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 09:16 Dan S > >> <mailto:danstowell%2b...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> It happened to me too today, FWIW. >> >> >> >> Best >> >> Dan >> >> >> >> Op ma 14 jan. 2019 om 09:10 schreef Jez Nicholson >> >> mailto:jez.nichol...@gmail.com>>: >> >> > >> >> > I get the occasional email from Talk-GB telling me that my email >> >> address has excessive bounces. I'm using gmail. Am I the only one >> >> with problems? Is there something I need to change? >> >> > >> >> > Regards, >> >> > Jez >> >> > ___ >> >> > Talk-GB mailing list >> >> > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org> >> >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Talk-GB mailing list >> >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org> >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Talk-GB mailing list >> >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> > >> > ___ >> > Talk-GB mailing list >> > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> > >> >> >> -- >> Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) >> http://compton.nu/ >> >> ___ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > -- Gregory Marler No More Grapes 07939 689 691 i...@nomoregrapes.com http://www.nomoregrapes.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Govt should pressure Google to release data
The ODI have called on the government to pressure Google, Uber, Apple into releaseing "mapping data" https://theodi.org/article/we-call-on-the-government-to-work-with-google-apple-and-uber-to-publish-more-map-data-and-support-the-uks-emerging-technologies/ This got a fair amount of media attention last week in the Financial Times and other places. My reaction was a bit confused... Mapping data = location of things? Don't need it, as Sir Tim Bernes-Lee (ODI co-founder) already sings the praises of OpenStreetMap. Open data at Ordnance Survey is also getting better (I thought we/ODI we focusing on improving that, we all know govt could do better). Mapping data = user data, like current traffic locations or insights into journeys people take? This would be amazing to get. But the companies won't give it away if you ask nicely, it's potentially their most valuable asset besides giving away the actual users. The govt can't control that, unless it was part of an existing agreement (i.e. bike share schemes, or taxis). The article/press release disappoints me, it feels like a waste of media attention. It possibly even dilutes the other messages of the ODI and it's founders. What do the rest of you think? -- Gregory Marler i...@nomoregrapes.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com http://www.nomoregrapes.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] ShoHo Mapping Party
Are we at the Transport2000 for lunch? or is the location undecided? I will probably be needing to charge my PDA quickly before I can go out again. On 9/7/07, 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a reminder that this weekend is the ShoHo mapping party. There's also one in Ljubljana if that's more attractive to you. The ShoHo mapping party is covering the Shoreditch and Hoxton area of London just to the east of the City. If you live anywhere in the south-east of England then it should be accessible. If you've not already committed you can still just turn up for either Saturday or Sunday or both days. The weather forecast for the weekend looks perfect - ideal mapping party conditions. Our hosts tomorrow will be Transport 2000 who will be providing coffee and internet access. I don't think it's wi-fi so might be a good idea to pack a cable if you are bringing a laptop. Looking forward to seeing you all there. Etienne ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-gb
