Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-03 Thread Mark Goodge
On 03/09/2019 09:54, Colin Smale wrote: For HGVs there is another issue in play. Specialised devices using specialised maps are required, to give routing appropriate to the vehicle, its mass, length, height, width etc. These devices can be a lot more expensive, and harder to find, than consu

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-03 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-09-02 16:40, Mark Goodge wrote: > One of the issues with relying on sat-nav is that the device data often isn't > updated very often. Unless the government can impose some kind of legally > binding SLA on the device manufacturers to ensure that all data updates are > performed within a

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-03 Thread David Woolley
On 03/09/2019 07:01, Warin wrote: None of these are for the total removal of signs .. but for the removal of unnecessary signs. I said a trend. Some signs are legally required, because they are needed to implement traffic regulation orders, so it will take a long time to remove them. Ultim

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Jez Nicholson
Community input to the plan is important. Any points you would like to discuss can be added to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Organised_Editing/Activities/National_Trust_Paths On Tue, 3 Sep 2019, 07:02 Warin, <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 3/9/19 8:22 am, David Woolley wrote: > >

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Warin
On 3/9/19 8:22 am, David Woolley wrote: On 02/09/2019 23:13, Warin wrote: On 3/9/19 2:53 am, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: On 02/09/2019 14:58, David Woolley wrote: This could conflict with a trend that I believe is developing, at least for more formal roads, of removing signage, because it dis

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread David Woolley
On 02/09/2019 23:13, Warin wrote: On 3/9/19 2:53 am, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: On 02/09/2019 14:58, David Woolley wrote: This could conflict with a trend that I believe is developing, at least for more formal roads, of removing signage, because it distracts drivers, and relying on satellite n

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Warin
On 3/9/19 2:53 am, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: On 02/09/2019 14:58, David Woolley wrote: This could conflict with a trend that I believe is developing, at least for more formal roads, of removing signage, because it distracts drivers, and relying on satellite navigators to provide the informati

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
Hi Bullet point replies: * Under the PROW section why are the 'yes' values not 'designated'? * byway_open_to_all_traffic - Why is motor vehicle 'private/no'? * Clarify which tags are optional (ie horse for Footpaths) * Designated ways aren't limited to footway/bridleway/cycleway/track/pat

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 02/09/2019 14:58, David Woolley wrote: This could conflict with a trend that I believe is developing, at least for more formal roads, of removing signage, because it distracts drivers, and relying on satellite navigators to provide the information instead. What evidence have you of this "t

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/09/2019 16:57, Mark Goodge wrote: I'm a little puzzled by one of the lines on the permissions grid on that page. There's a line for "Legal RoW but access discouraged", with a suggested tagging of "discouraged/private" for pedestrians (and similar tags for other users). Quite apart from

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Mark Goodge
On 02/09/2019 14:30, Jez Nicholson wrote: Following on from their talk at the OSMUK AGM, the National Trust have now created an official 'organised edit' page for their footpath project https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities/National_Trust_Paths I'm a little puzzled

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Mark Goodge
On 02/09/2019 14:58, David Woolley wrote: On 02/09/2019 14:48, Frederik Ramm wrote: Sometimes they want us to add a "vehicle=no" to a track that has absolutely no signposts whatsoever locally, meaning that nobody can verify that vehicles are forbidden and no local motorist would be turned away

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Jez Nicholson
Indeed, Frederik speaks wise words. The role of OSMUK has been to handhold, that is 'support or guide (someone) during a learning process or a period of change'. We've been there to encourage them to work with the community to identify how they might tag, and for them to publish their plans. On M

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread David Woolley
On 02/09/2019 14:48, Frederik Ramm wrote: Sometimes they want us to add a "vehicle=no" to a track that has absolutely no signposts whatsoever locally, meaning that nobody can verify that vehicles are forbidden and no local motorist would be turned away This could conflict with a trend that I be

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 02.09.19 15:30, Jez Nicholson wrote: > Following on from their talk at the OSMUK AGM, the National Trust have > now created an official 'organised edit' page for their footpath > project  > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities/National_Trust_Paths It sounds like

[Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Jez Nicholson
Following on from their talk at the OSMUK AGM, the National Trust have now created an official 'organised edit' page for their footpath project https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities/National_Trust_Paths ___ Talk-GB mailing list