All,
To see what would happen to Bristol in April, see
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfe&lon=-2.57888&lat=51.46006&zoom=12&overlays=overview,wtfe_point_clean,wtfe_line_clean,wtfe_point_harmless,wtfe_line_harmless,wtfe_point_modified,wtfe_line_modified_cp,wtfe_line_modified,wtfe_point_crea
Oh bummer - didn't mean to send to Talk-GB, just the local Bristol mappers! Oh
well, it's out there now...
Tim
From: Kev js1982
To: Tim François
Cc: Simon Murphy ; "talk-gb@openstreetmap.org"
; Craig Ellis ; Paul
Jaggard ; Da
Looks interesting! I have some spare time, computing capacity and programming
experience, so if you want me to help I can.
Otherwise, I'm waiting patiently!
Thanks
Tim
--- On Fri, 2/4/10, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
From: Richard Fairhurst
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
To: "Tim Francoi
That's all well and good (I've been editing some of that wiki, so am aware of
it!!) but all I see in this mailing list is quick discussions of comparisons,
but no real conclusions. Also, why bother to spend the vast amount of time
creating tiles if we're not gonna trace it? Street names we can j
Um, what he said. That's what I really meant with my previous rant!
--- On Mon, 5/4/10, Seventy 7 wrote:
From: Seventy 7
Subject: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Monday, 5 April, 2010, 13:32
> ... but there's a feeling that if we just dive in straight away and
erson
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
To: "Tim François"
Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Monday, 5 April, 2010, 14:10
Put differently -- can anyone think of any specific reason why we
can't start tracing?
The only thing I can think of is to make sure that we are ver
So the solution is to just leave it blank?
I understand that with an area mapped there is less impetus to head on over and
start making tracks and surveying. But just leaving the area blank when we have
this fantastic opportunity to populate seems silly, no? This far down the line,
it doesn't l
he country as we have the data
and resources to do so *now*. Or at least we should be discussing why we can
and can't, which we are now - progress!!
Thanks
Tim
--- On Mon, 5/4/10, Chris Hill wrote:
From: Chris Hill
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
Date: Mo
r specific example is that it includes
street names for nearly every road. I guess we can't tell if you hadn't mapped
the area whether someone would have come along to survey it or not...
Tim
--- On Mon, 5/4/10, Tom Hughes wrote:
From: Tom Hughes
Subject: Re: Ordnance Survey
To: "T
majority then I'll back down.
Cheers
Tim
--- On Mon, 5/4/10, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
From: Jonathan Bennett
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Monday, 5 April, 2010, 17:25
On 05/04/2010 16:38, Tim François wrote:
> So then the question is: what&#x
Any suggestion on how/where we would get clarification from?
Also, be aware that a discussion is also ongoing in the discussion page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Ordnance_Survey_Opendata#Attribution
(you may be aware, just making sure!)
Tim
--- On Tue, 6/4/10, Robert Whittaker (OSM
be.
Also: there's an IRC channel? Don't tell me anymore, otherwise I'll never get
any work done...
Thanks
Tim
--- On Tue, 6/4/10, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
From: Richard Fairhurst
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
To: "talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)"
Date: Tuesday,
...snip...
As a point of note while I was just doing a little test editing with these
tiles, using the WMS function in JOSM I wasn't getting the necessary quality
to read the street names, even with a change resolution request, so I
swapped out to the slippy map viewer which was much better though
Great site!
I have bug report though. I've done a bit of tracing from the OS SteetView in
conjunction with some GPX traces I have. Using the site, I download a GPX file
of the area but a load of the waypoint tags have empty lat/lon attributes.
i.e. . Download link:
http://www.mappage.org/error/e
I think OS *is* more accurate on the whole, after comparing a vast amount of
areas with which I'm familiar. Yes, we 'outdo' the OS map in some areas, but
probably not in accuracy, more in map 'awesomeness'.
I still think that we should be tracing the blank areas with the OSSV data.
I've done so
e surveyed/checked on the ground?
Cheers
Tim
--- On Sun, 11/4/10, Dave F. wrote:
> From: Dave F.
> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OS StreetView accuracy: caution!
> To: "Tim François"
> Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
> Date: Sunday, 11 April, 2010, 2:39
> Tim François wrote
Thanks for that guys - looks like I must have manually broke a relation then!
To work...
--- On Wed, 14/4/10, Matt Williams wrote:
From: Matt Williams
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Partial Roads in Route Relations
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Wednesday, 14 April, 2010, 15:47
On 14 April 2010
I think that was the one they 'officially opened' on the One Show yesterday
(BBC 1, on the iPlayer now) with a load of RiverDance girls - I kid you not
Tim
--- On Wed, 21/4/10, Russ Phillips wrote:
From: Russ Phillips
Subject: [Talk-GB] Workington Bridges
To: "OSM Talk-GB"
Date: Wednesda
All,
I've just had a go hacking the OSLocator data too for here in Bath. The results
look promising: some streets are missing, some streets are spelt incorrectly,
whilst others have a ref=* tag, but no name=* tag. What I've done doesn't
automatically detect these subtleties of course: it just c
...and to the list
--- On Mon, 26/4/10, Tim François wrote:
From: Tim François
Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] OS Locator - using in JOSM
To: "Ed Loach"
Date: Monday, 26 April, 2010, 9:04
Whoops, yeah, I will document it on that page: currently the script is horribly
ineffici
ach
Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] OS Locator - using in JOSM
To: "'Tim François'"
Date: Monday, 26 April, 2010, 8:30
Hi Tim
The wiki page all seems to be clear until the bit where you “use
custom script to compare data”. Are you going to document the script? Or is it
m
All,
I've been thinking about the script I wrote to compare the OS Locator data with
the OSM data, and have improved it slightly so that now it picks up those names
of roads which are different but have similar spellings. These are then marked
within the resultant gpx file if they match by over
Link added to OS OpenData wiki page. I won't add the method to that page, as
it's super long and messy already!
Tim
--- On Wed, 28/4/10, Russ Phillips wrote:
From: Russ Phillips
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Matching OS Locator with OSM data
To: "Tim François"
Cc: talk-gb@op
No problem, glad I could help!
--- On Wed, 28/4/10, Ed Avis wrote:
From: Ed Avis
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Matching OS Locator with OSM data
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Wednesday, 28 April, 2010, 14:45
Tim François writes:
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org
>/wiki/User:
not? Or is this answered by my first question?
Thanks
Tim
--- On Wed, 28/4/10, Ed Avis wrote:
From: Ed Avis
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Matching OS Locator with OSM data
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Wednesday, 28 April, 2010, 14:45
Tim François writes:
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Matching OS Locator with OSM data
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Wednesday, 28 April, 2010, 20:36
On Wednesday 28 April 2010, Tim François wrote:
> OSM name: VAN DIEMENS LANE
> OS StreetView name: VAN DIEMENS LANE
> OS Locator name: VAN DIEMEN'S LANE
>
I'm specifically referring to the following two tile servers/maps:
http://edgemaster.dev.openstreetmap.org/streetview_tiles/ossv.html
http://os.openstreetmap.org/
With the standard OSM map, you can use the query "mlat=" and "mlon=" to centre
the map and put a marker at that point. Is there a way
Robert,
Looks super interesting. I've been trying to do something similar but for local
areas, rather than GB as a whole to make is useable for single mapper. See
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bath/OSLocator_Comparison - the method is
towards the bottom of the page. It's certainly not as c
From: Robert Scott
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OS Locator / OSM correspondence list generation
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Thursday, 13 May, 2010, 21:00
On Thursday 13 May 2010, Tim François wrote:
> Looks super interesting. I've been trying to do something similar but for
> local areas
All,
Inspired by Robert Scott's recent excellent work
(http://humanleg.org.uk/code/oslmusicalchairs) I thought I'd tidy up my own
script and make it more robust.
The result is oslVosm: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OslVosm
Rather than parse the entire country, this script is designed for
For a final source tag (i.e. the verified buildings) shouldn't we be using
source=OS_OpenData_StreetView as noted in the wiki:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ordnance_Survey_Opendata#When_tracing_over_OS_StreetView
--- On Fri, 28/5/10, Roy Jamison wrote:
From: Roy Jamison
Subject: Re: [Ta
...any reason why no underscores with Potlatch?
--- On Fri, 28/5/10, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote:
From: Jerry Clough - OSM
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View, with code
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 11:15
Potlatch's "b" option will place "source
p.org
Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 11:31
Ask Richard F!
From: Tim François
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org; Jerry Clough - OSM
Sent: Fri, 28 May, 2010 11:20:10
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View, with code
...any reason why no underscores with Potlatch?
--- On Fri, 28/5
"Tim François" , "OpenStreetMap TalkGB"
Date: Friday, 28 May, 2010, 11:54
Tim,
In Potlatch you can also use 'r' or 'Shift-R' to repeat the tags from the last
way you had selected.
See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch/Keyboard_shortcuts
Graham
> On a side note, has anybody noticed a consistent tendency
> for existing
> independently surveyed roads to be offset northwards (by
> around 5-10
> metres) from the OS data (vectormap and streetview)? I've
> seen various
> cases of existing roads being edited to be consistent with
> OS data,
> bu
orDistrict data using this process,
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Using_OS_Shapefiles
>
> and the converted data looks good to me compared to my previous
> surveys but comes out different to the tiles, so I'm thinking that the
> tiles are wrong.
>
> Kev
o match up quite well for Nottingham. I've just
rendered a set of tiles in OSGB36 of the same scale and boundaries as
StreetView which
at least removes some of the projection transformation artefacts.
From: Tim François
To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org; Chris Hill
Sent: Sun, 30 May, 2010 12:16
If you are tracing from StreetView please, please, please properly source your
ways:
source=OS_OpenData_StreetView
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ordnance_Survey_Opendata#Attributing_OS
Tim
--- On Sun, 6/6/10, Kai Krueger wrote:
From: Kai Krueger
Subject: [Talk-GB] UK Project of the wee
All,
There was discussion recently about letting OS know when we find an error in
their data. I fully support this, and have found a few errors already.
Question: what's the best way to contact them? Do we have a contact within OS
to which we can pass details to?
Thanks
Tim
__
Agreed - might as well mop up the anomalies (St/Saint, apostrophes etc) as we
go along this first time round.
--- On Sun, 13/6/10, Chris Hill wrote:
If I'm going out to check some anomalies, it would be very annoying to
have to go out to the same area again in six months time to repeat the
pr
"...issues such as Saint vs St, or Queen's Drive versus Queens Drive,
are not ones that can be resolved by survey. They are merely
orthographic conventions"
Is this true? I was under the impression that we mapped what we saw -
i.e. the definitive name is the one we see on the street signs d
--- On Tue, 15/6/10, Ed Avis wrote:
...If tracing them I will usually mark them as
highway=unclassified or =residential (guessed based on surrounding area) and
allow the nonames checks to pick them up for later surveying.
You can kill two birds with one stone here: trace from the OS StreetView l
Good stuff - thanks for the link Ed. ITO suggest that OSM is 65% complete in
the City of Bristol, which is almost the same as my 37% incomplete statistic!
The discrepancy probably occurs because:
1) I'm using a different algorithm to ITO
2) ITO and my data will not be from the same time
3) My dat
I'm not really answering your question here, but thought I'd add in my two
pennies: I use OSM data as the map in Navit, a sat-nav program. From my
personal point of view, I find it very handy for the sat-nav to direct me to
roads which have the same name as the road signs, irrespective of what t
This discussion is kinda related to my incessant questioning last week about
why 'correct' data is shown by default.
A big start would be to explain the two major features of the UI: what the
colours mean (actually writing "a green area means: blah, blah") and what the
squares and circles mean.
>>Dave F. said
>>And, as Tim F., points outs - there's no need to display correct info
>>(green) at all.
>I disagree and find these useful. It is often the case that part of a road
>has been named >correctly and parts incorrectly. The green boxes are very
>useful for finding the full extent o
No real input, but I thought Ranald might have been a spelling mistake (thought
it would have been Ronald). Apparently not:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranald_Leask. Every day's a school day!
Marc, any way we can verify "the credits" for publishing the data to OSM
without hassling Ranald?
Than
--- On Wed, 11/8/10, Marc Coevoet wrote:
From: Marc Coevoet
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Data from http://www.cwgc.org/
To: "Tim François"
Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Wednesday, 11 August, 2010, 9:48
Tim François schreef:
> No real input, but I thought Ranald might have been a spel
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Heathrow&aq=&sll=53.482836,-2.180099&sspn=0.080494,0.222988&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Heathrow,+Hounslow,+Greater+London,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.495653,-0.450954&spn=0.022497,0.078964&z=14&layer=c&cbll=51.495681,-0.451607&panoid=gjN7Vihx-29MP9zua
Good work!
I just tried searching based on house number and street name, and it didn't
work if I didn't capitalise the first letters of the street name. Is this a
feature or a bug?
Tim
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Tim François wrote:
> Good work!
>
> I just tried searc
>
> > - Have you considered using the Code Point Open data as a fallback in
> case the
> > postcode is not in OSM? It would not allow an exact address to be
> pinpointed
> > but it could give a link to the right area of the map with a hint to get
> to
> > work populating it fully.
>
> Yup, this
Just a simple message to say that I support this idea of a bot, for all the
reasons stated by previous posters. Whilst I understand the reservations of
those against the bot, I personally don't believe they are relevant to this
particular bot as it is described on the wiki.
Tim
Evening all!
This may not interest many, but I got quite excited about seeing my first
real-life OSM map in the wild!
See: http://i.imgur.com/WMwhY.jpg
This map is used to show locations of gorilla statues in and around Bristol
to celebrate the zoo's birthday, and I picked it up at Temple Meads
Gents,
http://osm.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/map/?zoom=13&lat=51.4646&lon=-2.57549&layers=B00T
Anyone had any thoughts yet on what to do about the red/pink/yellow lines?
Luckily there's not too much red around
(Also, I don't follow the talk list for sanity reasons, so apologies if I'm
missi
If you haven't been told privately already:
http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?zoom=7&lat=53.03726&lon=-3.41417&layers=B00T&ch=0%2C30%2C40%2C50%2C60%2C70%2C90%2C100%2C110%2C120%2C130%2C150%2C160%2C170%2C180%2C191%2C192%2C193%2C194%2C195%2C196%2C197%2C198%2C201%2C202%2C203%2C204%2C205%2C206%2C
Hmm, actually, may not be what you're looking for afterall - perhaps the
in-built error checking features of JOSM may be better: if I remember
correctly, trying to upload a changeset with ways crossing but not connected
flags up a warning...
Tim
--- On Fri, 12/8/11, Tim François wrote:
Pawel,
You may have seen it already, but I found the following page very useful
when importing boundary data for the Bristol area:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Using_OS_Shapefiles#1._Extract_a_civil_parish_boundary_from_the_BoundaryLine_data_set
Tim
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Pawel St
I've done the same as Craig: exported only the features I was interested in
using QGIS, before using JOSM to tidy it up.
I did Chew Valley Lake and the River Chew running into it from the Avon at
Keynsham.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.3356781005859&lon=-2.61131286621094&zoom=13
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