Re: [OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

2015-07-17 Thread Daniel Cussen
Automagically scraping the finder.eircode.ie site is a grey area, I would caution against doing that for the moment. I was more suggesting a person opting to submit a known postcode, and have that result be marked in OSM. Probably using a mobile app using OSM and querying the finder.eircode.ie

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

2015-07-17 Thread Daniel Cussen
So I did some tests. If I go to finer.eircode.ie on my phone and put in a postcode, and then click directions, the co-ordinates are handed over to my phone. I then have a choice of which mapping app to use. It is important to pick DIRECTIONS as other options use the eircode mapping website. The

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

2015-07-17 Thread Donie Kelly
Hi Richard While you’re asking can you ask will app developers be able to query the database as the website does currently? Even with the same usage restrictions it would be useful. That way apps could be built to navigate to the postcodes. Donie On 17 Jul 2015, at 15:16, Richard Cantwell

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

2015-07-17 Thread Daniel Cussen
You type in your eircode and it finds your property, simple, no messing about trying to find where you want to go. I know someone said they looked up eircode on their smartphone, clicked on the link and their phone automatically opened up the GPS co-ordinates and showed the route, presumably in

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

2015-07-17 Thread Killyfole and District Development Association
Maybe set-up a website like Free the Postcode in the UK ? http://www.freethepostcode.org/ Once the database gets to critical mass they will hopefully just open the data themselves, like the Post Office/Royal Mail were forced to do in the UK. Unfortunately, ignoring it and hoping it will

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

2015-07-17 Thread Michael Larkin
The Eircode leaflet refers to privacy statement on www.eircode.ie/privacy Skralm On 17 July 2015 at 14:01, moltonel molto...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 July 2015 11:30:55 GMT+01:00, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: What better way to ignore than come to the conclusion that the data can't be

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

2015-07-17 Thread Donie Kelly
HI Dan Are you on Android, because on iOS it only jumps to Apple maps when you click directions? Donie On 17 Jul 2015, at 15:44, Daniel Cussen d...@post.com wrote: So I did some tests. If I go to finer.eircode.ie on my phone and put in a postcode, and then click directions, the

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

2015-07-17 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 17/07/2015, Killyfole and District Development Association webmas...@killyfole.org.uk wrote: Maybe set-up a website like Free the Postcode in the UK ? http://www.freethepostcode.org/ Once the database gets to critical mass they will hopefully just open the data themselves, like the Post

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

2015-07-17 Thread Daniel Cussen
On android it asks dedicated mapping app, or firefox or chrome, and I select afterwards just once so it asks me every time. I assume if I do not pick just once it will remember and go straight without asking me, as your apple is doing. See here for first place I found after a search:

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

2015-07-17 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 17/07/2015, Richard Cantwell manaboutco...@gmail.com wrote: My current view is that the codes themselves are not copyrighted, but the ECAF (flat file with postal address and Eircode) and ECAD (database with aliases, co-ords and other things) are copyrighted. That was my understanding as

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

2015-07-17 Thread Donie Kelly
Hi Dan That just show me how to add the OSM overlays to an existing map in my app. The directions that come from the Eircode site uses a custom url scheme of maps.apple.com http://maps.apple.com/ as it’s detecting that iPhone is in the user agent header. That will open the maps app

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

2015-07-17 Thread Simon Poole
Am 17.07.2015 um 02:30 schrieb moltonel 3x Combo: But I actually don't want to play that game. I'd rather do my best to let Eircode flop as hard as possible (amongst others by ignoring it in OSM) so that in a few years time the government and/or a coalition of geocoding users decide to

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

2015-07-16 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 17/07/2015, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Congrats or not on the introduction of eircode system :-), there is naturally some insecurity as to if we can legally include the data in OSM from user contributions. It would be helpful if somebody could provide the text of the letter you

[OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

2015-07-16 Thread Simon Poole
Hi all Congrats or not on the introduction of eircode system :-), there is naturally some insecurity as to if we can legally include the data in OSM from user contributions. It would be helpful if somebody could provide the text of the letter you received with your eircode to the LWG, and