[Talk-hr] OpenStreetMap nista ne valja

2010-10-15 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
http://www.41latitude.com/post/1310985699/openstreetmap-critique Jako zanimljiv članak, i s pogleda novog osm člana sasvim mi se čini opravdana kritika. Naravno ovo nije članak koji je pljuvacina vec konkretno ukazuje podrucja koja treba popraviti, te se niti u jednom trenutku ne omalovazavaju

[Talk-hr] njemci i ceste ;)

2010-10-15 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
zanimljiv komentar sa strane mailing liste ;) So if, say, you think you need eight levels of importance within your highway network, yet OSM only has seven (motorway, trunk, primary, secondary, tertiary, unclassified, residential), screw it. Invent another one. Quaternary or minor or

[Talk-hr] taginfo

2010-10-15 Per discussione Matija Nalis
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/ Vrlo zgodan alatic za vidjeti koji se tagovi koriste. Featuri iz tagwatcha, tagstata i OSMdoca. I jos se ktome izgleda aktivno razvija i lik trazi dodatne prijedloge. Uvod na http://blog.jochentopf.com/2010-10-05-introducing-taginfo.html -- Opinions above are

[Talk-hr] jednom je slucajnost, dvaput je podudarnost, a triput je vec zavjera

2010-10-15 Per discussione Matija Nalis
srecom jos nismo do stupnja zavjere dosli :) nesto se dogadja na horizontu? Cloudmade se sumnjivo prazni od OSMa 5.10.2010 http://opengeodata.org/osm-founder-steve-coast-leaves-cloudmade 8.10.2010 http://opengeodata.org/last-community-ambassador-resigns-from-cloudm -- Opinions above are

Re: [Talk-hr] ima li jos i-gotU GPS trackera?

2010-10-15 Per discussione Matija Nalis
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 07:57:00PM +, Goran wrote: Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@... writes: Ima li jos negdje za nabaviti i-gotU GPS trackera kod nas? Mislim da neces pronaci jeftinije nego na eBay-u... barem ja nisam uspio. Tj, i-gotU GT-120 cca 325 kn. Evo prodam ja svoj GT-200

Re: [Talk-hr] OSM aktivnost po gradovima

2010-10-15 Per discussione Tihomir Heidelberg
On 4.10.2010 14:24, Valent Turkovic wrote: http://sautter.com/map/? zoom=8lat=45.11618lon=16.33667layers=00B000TFFF Evo što nam fali: ... Badljevina - Garešnica Ovo je dobar primjer zašto ne kopirati sa Google Maps i drugih karata. Treba koristiti te karte samo za kontrolu, ali ako su

Re: [talk-ph] editing admin boundaries of Marikina

2010-10-15 Per discussione ianlopez
The tags on the relations are okay, but there are some stray/unused relations lying around in the area. Other than those issues (and the Tanong-Dela Pena boundaries), I can proudly say that the boundary relations for the Marikina barangays are complete. Tony Montana: Me, I want what's coming

Re: [OSM-talk-be] busroutes

2010-10-15 Per discussione Jo
Hier is mijn poging met lijn 4 in Leuven: Overkoepelende relatie: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1225296 1225834 Bevat enkel relaties van het volgende type: Van Haasrode naar Herent:

Re: [OSM-talk-be] busroutes

2010-10-15 Per discussione Ben Laenen
Jo wrote: De reden waarom ik met child relations was beginnen te werken, was om de gemeenschappelijke stukken asfalt waar ze over rijden slechts 1 keer te moeten ingeven. Door de Bondgenotenlaan van Leuven razen de volgende lijnen:

Re: [OSM-talk-be] busroutes

2010-10-15 Per discussione Ben Laenen
Jo wrote: En dat is dus wat ik bedoelde met extra complexiteit voor de mapper. Uiteindelijk maakt het het eenvoudiger (1x werk, i.p.v. 68x bij onderhoud), maar je moet wel doorheen verschillende lagen en er het hoofd bijhouden wat in welke laag thuishoort. Als wij het zo mappen, dan zullen

Re: [OSM-talk-be] busroutes

2010-10-15 Per discussione Ivo De Broeck
Ik lees nog ;-), maar ik denk dat je een punt hebt. Liefst een simpele en duidelijke oplossing. Kunnen we het eens worden over het mappen van een busrit (daar blijf ik wel van overtuigd dat we die in aparte relaties moeten steken en koppelen aan de juiste bus_stops). Op 15 oktober 2010 15:00

Re: [OSM-talk-be] busroutes

2010-10-15 Per discussione Ivo De Broeck
Op 15 oktober 2010 15:26 schreef Jo winfi...@gmail.com het volgende: Ja, de bushaltes horen niet in de gemeenschappelijke routedelen. Wat ik zoveel mogelijk wil vermijden is duplicatie van informatie. Dat er in de 'name' de operator, het refnummer, from to en via herhaald wordt, zodat we

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
I think Justin is right. The OSM community lacks an inspiring vision towards the future of OSM. Instead of focusing on GEO-data and MAP usability, the last 2 years to many of the key players of OSM have been focusing on only one topic : the license change. How can any potential user

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: The OSM community lacks an inspiring vision towards the future of OSM. Instead of focusing on GEO-data and MAP usability, the last 2 years to many of the key players of OSM have been focusing on only one topic : the license change. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:52:47 +0200 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I mean, there's nothing wrong with having nice map but this is certainly not at the core of the project, and certainly nothing we should aim to have an inspiring vision for. We're providing the underlying data for

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:07:56 +0200, Milo van der Linden wrote: Making the perfectly rendered map available to the world is *not* a mission goal for the OSMF. The OSMF is primarily responsible for maintaining the database and the services related to it. Well then OSMF should change their

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:58:20 -0400, Paul Houle wrote: It's better to say we know we could do it better and we'll do better in the future. +1 always for constructive criticism, and should be accepted by any project that wants to go forward. -- pratite me na twitteru -

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:36:48 +, Ed Avis wrote: That's surely a lot of the reason why OSM looks strange from an American point of view, but he does have a couple of valid points - the map does look a bit 'washed out' at low zoom levels, with many similar shades of almost-grey (which may be

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:27:06 +0200 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: The cool thing about OSM is: They can go ahead and create the nice map! sometimes, you have no insight whatsoever. No, I cannot create the nice map. It doesn't belong in MY skill set. I may have a long string of

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Colin Smale
On 15/10/2010 11:49, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:07:56 +0200, Milo van der Linden wrote: Making the perfectly rendered map available to the world is *not* a mission goal for the OSMF. The OSMF is primarily responsible for maintaining the database and the services related to

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:39:07 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: But I have no problem with openstreetmap.org being British rather than some bland kind of international - we can do tiles on openstreetmap.de in a more German style, and tiles on openstreetmap.us in a more US style, and so on. Is there

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:11:34 +1100, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: That is your opinion For others, the nice map is important. Agreed, and I hope we can vote so that people who are willing to make usable maps be in OSMF board not ones that dont. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Nic Roets
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:07:56 +0200, Milo van der Linden wrote: Making the perfectly rendered map available to the world is *not* a mission goal for the OSMF. The OSMF is primarily responsible for

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:41:30 -0400, Anthony wrote: Once OSM goes ODbL, I'd expect that Mapquest will stop licensing their tiles under a free license. They distribute it now for free? Why? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux,

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM book

2010-10-15 Per discussione Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 11:14 +0100, David Earl wrote: publishers for David Mackay's book Sustainable Energy without the hot air that should be required reading for this list - especially the second part of the title. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Ed Loach
Elizabeth wrote: No, I cannot create the nice map. Perhaps it's because I'm in the UK and am used to the non-garish OS maps, but I sometimes look at the Mapnik rendering and think wow. Everyone's opinion on what is nice is going to differ. We might not even agree on something as simple as at

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Al Haraka
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: Elizabeth wrote: No, I cannot create the nice map. I do not want to be so blunt, but I do not know any other way: then stop complaining about the map. Or anything an OSM user can complain about at OSM, for that matter. This is

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: No, I cannot create the nice map. It doesn't belong in MY skill set. Fair enough. If you don't have the skills or the computers or the money to create a nice map, then you have to talk someone else into creating a nice map for you. But I don't think this should

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Kai, Kai Krueger wrote: Well, Navteq and Tele Atlas also don't have to attract many hundreds of thousands of volunteers to create their data, many of whom are likely not able to or willing to have to deal with tens of Gb of raw vector data to be able to benefit from the work they put in. Thus

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Valent Turkovic wrote: Agreed, and I hope we can vote so that people who are willing to make usable maps be in OSMF board not ones that dont. Are you saying our current maps are unusable? Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:13:10 +0300 Al Haraka alhar...@gmail.com wrote: I do not want to be so blunt, but I do not know any other way: then stop complaining about the map. Or anything an OSM user can complain about at OSM, for that matter. This is an open data project, so I have been told.

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Richard Mann
I thought the critique was useful for those of us who rarely look at low zooms, other than as a quick way to pan across a few hundred/thousand miles. Yes they are a bit bland; wouldn't hurt to do something about it (wouldn't spend much time on it, but worth a few tweaks). Text overlaps are

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Peter Körner
Am 15.10.2010 12:06, schrieb Valent Turkovic: Can I contribute somehow and get this done? The OSM Style is at [1], patches to the dev list [2]. [1] http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/rendering/mapnik/ [2] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Peter Körner
Am 15.10.2010 12:11, schrieb Valent Turkovic: On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:41:30 -0400, Anthony wrote: Once OSM goes ODbL, I'd expect that Mapquest will stop licensing their tiles under a free license. They distribute it now for free? Why? They are forced to by the CC-BY-SA License. Peter

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Al hakara wrote: I have my own opinions on OSM quality, but then again I am not yet a component OSM contributor, web developer, or system administrator. It is not my place to judge until I understand the tools well enough to critique them accurately No please, critique is always needed, you

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
I agree that we need to have a map to demonstrate what one can do with OSM. But in my opinion, the one we currently have already surpasses, by a large margin, that which would be required to attract people to the project. And still people whine about our lack of vision! Nonsense Frederic,

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Peter Körner wrote: Once OSM goes ODbL, I'd expect that Mapquest will stop licensing their tiles under a free license. They distribute it now for free? Why? They are forced to by the CC-BY-SA License. CC-BY-SA would still allow them to restrict access to the site, e.g. force users to

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Jonas Krückel
Am 15.10.2010 um 14:40 schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen: I agree that we need to have a map to demonstrate what one can do with OSM. But in my opinion, the one we currently have already surpasses, by a large margin, that which would be required to attract people to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
+1 Jonas, can you put some of your ideas on a wiki page ? Gert Gremmen - Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)  Before printing, think about the environment. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Jonas Krückel

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Chris Fleming
On 15/10/10 12:30, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: No, I cannot create the nice map. It doesn't belong in MY skill set. Fair enough. If you don't have the skills or the computers or the money to create a nice map, then you have to talk someone else into creating a nice map

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
Peter Körner wrote: Valent Turkovic wrote: On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:41:30 -0400, Anthony wrote: Once OSM goes ODbL, I'd expect that Mapquest will stop licensing their tiles under a free license. They distribute it now for free? Why? They are forced to by the CC-BY-SA License. ...is evidently

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Randy Meech
Why would you expect that? On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote: And along those lines, based on the constructive criticism, the default map shown on the main OSM page should be a pretty map, using

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Jonas Krückel
Yeah, I might do that at some point and then post a link here. -Jonas Am 15.10.2010 um 15:35 schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen: +1 Jonas, can you put some of your ideas on a wiki page ? Gert Gremmen -

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione SteveC
On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Randy Meech wrote: Why would you expect that? Randy Anthony is just trolling. He's been kicked out of wikipedia, as noted multiple times. Ignore him. On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Mike N.

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:22:56 -0600 SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Anthony is just trolling. He's been kicked out of wikipedia, as noted multiple times. Ignore him. That is untruthful. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione SteveC
On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:22:56 -0600 SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Anthony is just trolling. He's been kicked out of wikipedia, as noted multiple times. Ignore him. That is untruthful. Which bit? Steve stevecoast.com

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Nathan Edgars II
Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:22:56 -0600 SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Anthony is just trolling. He's been kicked out of wikipedia, as noted multiple times. Ignore him. That is untruthful. Don't bother; Steve is just trolling. -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Nic Roets
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:22:56 -0600 SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Anthony is just trolling. He's been kicked out of wikipedia, as noted multiple times. Ignore him. That is untruthful. I'm afraid that Steve is

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-15 Per discussione Steve Bennett
But really: is this worthwhile?  Will my company benefit?  Will OSM benefit? Hi Sam, it definitely sounds worthwhile to me, and your company and OSM will benefit. One thing you didn't mention: how many gpx tracks do you have so far? Or is this just for going forward? If you can increase the

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-15 Per discussione Richard Weait
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: But really: is this worthwhile?  Will my company benefit?  Will OSM benefit? I'd also double check that there aren't privacy concerns - gpx traces contain time information - is your company happy releasing that? Would

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Anthony
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Randy Meech randy.me...@gmail.com wrote: Why would you expect that? Because it would be in their best interest to do so. On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote: And

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Anthony
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: CC-BY-SA would still allow them to restrict access to the site, e.g. force users to log in or use an API key, which to my knowledge they don't. Well, no, of course not. If they did that virtually no one would use them.

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Per discussione Anthony
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 4:02 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:22:56 -0600 SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Anthony is just trolling. He's been kicked out of wikipedia, as noted multiple times. Ignore him. That

Re: [OSM-talk] Ongoing bulk uploads of GPS traces?

2010-10-15 Per discussione Sam Wilson
On 16/10/10 10:01 AM, Richard Weait wrote: I'd also double check that there aren't privacy concerns - gpx traces contain time information - is your company happy releasing that? Would it compromise them? Do the drivers get a say? Good point. If privacy or business practices are a concern, you

[OSM-talk] Coraine Land Cover - OSM tags

2010-10-15 Per discussione Sam Vekemans
Hi, Does anyone have a list of all of the tags used for the Coraine Land Cover dataset? Thanks, Sam -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans IRC:

Re: [Talk-de] Lizenzwechsel: Liste der bisherigen Zu stimmungen veroeffentlicht

2010-10-15 Per discussione Bernd Wurst
Am Donnerstag 14 Oktober 2010, 14:14:33 schrieb Frederik Ramm: ch habe das nein in der Spalte Zustimmung nun auf ?? geaendert, denn diese Leute haben ja nicht mit Nein gestimmt, sondern einfach gar nicht abgestimmt - da gab es einige Rueckfragen zu. Noch eine spitzfindige Anmerkung für die

Re: [Talk-de] Lizenzwechsel: Liste der bisherigen Zustimmungen veroeffentlicht

2010-10-15 Per discussione Peter Körner
Am 14.10.2010 22:52, schrieb Holger Blum: Am 14.10.2010 19:30, Frederik Ramm schrieb: *Gegen* den Willen eines Users koennen tatsaechlich nur trivial-Edits uebernommen werden. Ich habe es genau anders herum gemeint: User macht einige sinnvolle Edits in einem Gebiet und entfernt dabei gleich

Re: [Talk-de] api-download bei semikon-getrennten-values

2010-10-15 Per discussione Peter Körner
Am 11.10.2010 10:54, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Eine pauschale Möglichkeit wäre, vor dem Verarbeiten alle values zu parsen und aus amenity=bank;atm einen automatisch 2 duplicate nodes zu generieren, die jeweils bank und atm als value haben. Wird vermutlich allerdings ne Weile dauern, wenn man

Re: [Talk-de] api-download bei semikon-getrennten-values

2010-10-15 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Peter Körner wrote: Eine pauschale Möglichkeit wäre, vor dem Verarbeiten alle values zu parsen und aus amenity=bank;atm einen automatisch 2 duplicate nodes zu generieren, die jeweils bank und atm als value haben. Wird vermutlich allerdings ne Weile dauern, wenn man den Planet damit

Re: [Talk-de] api-download bei semikon-getrennten-values

2010-10-15 Per discussione NopMap
Peter Körner wrote: Am 11.10.2010 10:54, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Eine pauschale Möglichkeit wäre, vor dem Verarbeiten alle values zu parsen und aus amenity=bank;atm einen automatisch 2 duplicate nodes zu generieren, die jeweils bank und atm als value haben. Wird vermutlich allerdings

Re: [Talk-de] Relation runterladen?

2010-10-15 Per discussione Rainer Kluge
Hallo, Am 05.10.2010 19:16, schrieb Carsten Gerlach: Lässt sich das so erweitern, daß man als Quelle eine lokale osm-Datei (z.B. germany.osm) verwenden kann, aus der die Relation extrahiert wird? Ich habe eine neue Version zum Download bereitgestellt: http://mr-unseld.de/?q=de/node/170 Man

Re: [Talk-de] api-download bei semikon-getrennten-values

2010-10-15 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 15. Oktober 2010 10:25 schrieb NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de: Am 11.10.2010 10:54, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Eine pauschale Möglichkeit wäre, vor dem Verarbeiten alle values zu parsen und aus amenity=bank;atm einen automatisch 2 duplicate nodes zu generieren, die jeweils bank und atm als value

Re: [Talk-de] Lizenzwechsel: Liste der bisherigen Zustimmungen veroeffentlicht

2010-10-15 Per discussione Christoph Wagner
Am 14.10.2010 14:14, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hallo, eine aktualisierte Liste. Ich habe das nein in der Spalte Zustimmung nun auf ?? geaendert, denn diese Leute haben ja nicht mit Nein gestimmt, sondern einfach gar nicht abgestimmt - da gab es einige Rueckfragen zu. Verstehe ich das

Re: [Talk-de] Lizenzwechsel: Liste der bisherigen Zustimmungen veroeffentlicht

2010-10-15 Per discussione Christoph Wagner
Am 15.10.2010 13:05, schrieb Christoph Wagner: Verstehe ich das dann richtig, dass also niemand in dieser Liste mit Nein abgestimmt hat? Liegt das daran, dass die Gegner die Abstimmung an sich nicht anerkennen oder heben die sich ihr nein so lange wie möglich auf oder hab ich was falsch

Re: [Talk-de] api-download bei semikon-getrennten-values

2010-10-15 Per discussione NopMap
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: doch, diese Anmerkung kam schon und es ist so, dass alle Tags jeweils für alle Values gelten müssen, weil sonst der doppelte Wert mit Semikolon nicht gesetzt werden kann (ist sonst ein Fehler in den Daten). Praktisch wird das allerdings sehr oft vorkommen, sieht

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Karte überarbeitet

2010-10-15 Per discussione Heiko Jacobs
Am 14.10.2010 01:44, schrieb Thomas Ineichen: Mir fällt gerade auf, dass weiß etwas suboptimal kommt ... Gelb vielleicht besser? Ansonsten hübsch ;-) Die weissen Striche ohne Access-Umrandung sind eigentlich ungewolltes Nebenprodukt, daher müssen sie gar nicht sichtbar sein.. ;-) Man kann

[Talk-de] Sportvereine

2010-10-15 Per discussione Stephan Wolff
Moin, Sportvereine werden sind in OSM sehr unvollständig und ziemlich unterschiedlich eingetragen, obwohl sie in vielen Dörfern oder Stadtteilen eine der wichtigsten Institutionen sind und häufig als Veranstaltungsorte erscheinen. Wie kann man Sportvereine einheitlich (und somit auswertbar) in

Re: [Talk-de] Relation runterladen?

2010-10-15 Per discussione Carsten Gerlach
Naabend, Am Freitag 15 Oktober 2010 schrieb Rainer Kluge: Ich habe eine neue Version zum Download bereitgestellt: http://mr-unseld.de/?q=de/node/170 Super, vielen Dank. Das ganze hat Beta-Status. Für Hinweise auf Fehler bin ich dankbar, ebenso für Änderungs- und Verbesserungsvorschläge.

[Talk-de] All In One (AIO) haengt?

2010-10-15 Per discussione Elchtreiber
Hallo zusammen, auf der Downloadseite der AIO sind keine aktuellen Karten mehr vorhanden. Die Verzeichnisse haben alle das Datum vom 15.10.2010 04:00 Uhr. Bei der Europakarte gibt es ein Verzeichnis vom 13.10.2010, aber auch ohne Inhalt. Kann mal wer schauen, wo das ganze hängt?! Danke und Gruß

Re: [Talk-de] Sportvereine

2010-10-15 Per discussione Bernd Wurst
Hallo. Am Freitag 15 Oktober 2010, 20:24:59 schrieb Stephan Wolff: Sportvereine werden sind in OSM sehr unvollständig und ziemlich unterschiedlich eingetragen, obwohl sie in vielen Dörfern oder Stadtteilen eine der wichtigsten Institutionen sind und häufig als Veranstaltungsorte erscheinen.

Re: [Talk-it] OSM ad Italiacamp

2010-10-15 Per discussione Maurizio Napolitano
Immagino poi che sarai già pronto anche ad intervenire sulla direttiva INSPIRE http://inspire.jrc.ec.europa.eu/ anche se con la liberazione dei dati non sembra essere la via definitiva (è solo suggerito di liberare i dati) Certo, ma impone delle regole su come alcuni dati debbano essere

[Talk-it] Roma Cycle Map

2010-10-15 Per discussione Fabri
Forse avrete già notato come la Open Cycle Map si sia arricchita di cycling routes nella città di Roma. Manca poco a completare il mappaggio del Local Cycling Network capitolino. Per chi vuole contribuire a completare l'inserimento delle piste ciclabili ufficiali, vi elenco quelle mancanti:

Re: [Talk-it] [ANN] osmstats 1.0

2010-10-15 Per discussione David Paleino
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:45:52 +0200, David Paleino wrote: [..] L'idea è di fare l'analisi settimanale dell'italy.osm in maniera automatizzata. Non è ancora automatizzato, ma ci lavorerò appena possibile :) Col nuovo parsing sono apparsi pure i profili utente. Fatemi sapere se riscontrate

Re: [Talk-es] Pagina web Española

2010-10-15 Per discussione Alvaro Lara Cano
Bueno, yo acabo de hacer la primera prueba en Ubuntu, no se que os parecerá, pero aquí os dejo los enlaces a Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KCW55ZBX http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NFQ283U0 Os pido por favor que no os riáis :-), son pruebas, las dos muy parecidas, pero quiero saber

Re: [Talk-es] Pagina web Española

2010-10-15 Per discussione Jimena
A mi me parece que los vídeos están bien. Me quedaría con el primero, personalmente Creo que sería bueno evitar tanto movimiento en la pantalla, pero vamos, esto es una pijada Entonces del tema de JOSM, habría dos o tres vídeos por cada plataforma?: 1. descarga del programa 2. Instalación 3.

Re: [Talk-es] Pagina web Española

2010-10-15 Per discussione Alvaro Lara Cano
Supongo que se podrán eliminar los vídeos en Vimeo ¿no? Comento ésto porque a mi el primer vídeo no me gusta porque salen dos errores en la grabación. (los dos en la parte superior del panel), son pedazos de ventana que se han quedado ahí. Y segundo porque una vez que se empieza a instalar el

Re: [Talk-ee] kaardikonkurss

2010-10-15 Per discussione Jaak Laineste
Tekitasin lühikese koondjuhendi http://code.google.com/p/maakaart-ee/wiki/KaardiKujundus Andresega mõtlesime välja, et tekitame igale kujundajale oma kasutaja serverisse, millega siis saab FTP abil enda XML-failide komplekti modida ja siis uuenenud kaardipilti vaadata. Äkki juba täna :) Jaak

Re: [Talk-ee] Aadressandmed importida OSM-i?

2010-10-15 Per discussione Margus Väli
Siin saaks ju loovamalt läheneda ja building=yes ümbruskonnas vaadata -- kui punkti läheduses või lausa ümber on maja siis mitte risustada seda kanti lisa punktiga vaid võrrelda ning lisada aaressandmeid? mv On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 11:07 +0300, Jaak Laineste wrote: -Ma nuputaks siis

Re: [Talk-ee] Aadressandmed importida OSM-i?

2010-10-15 Per discussione Mihkel Oviir
Paraku on ADS katastripõhine. Katastriandmestik oleks vajalik, et kuidagi loovamalt läheneda, seda aga maa-amet vektorina ei väljasta. -- Mihkel Oviir sook...@yahoo.com From: Margus Väli margus.v...@gmail.com To: OpenStreetMap Estonia

Re: [Talk-ee] kaardikonkurss

2010-10-15 Per discussione Joosep-Georg Järvemaa
Ma saan siis aru, et tähtaeg lükkub pisut edasi? -- Joosep-Georg ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee

Re: [Talk-ee] Aadressandmed importida OSM-i?

2010-10-15 Per discussione Anti Kasuk
Aadress on ju kah katastri p6hine ? Kui hakata sedasi building=yes teed minema v6ib juhtuda, et maja asemel saab aadressi hoopis laut v6i keller. kasu ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-ee] kaardikonkurss

2010-10-15 Per discussione Jaak Laineste
Ega sellest ei pääse jah. Kui kellelgi on midagi tänaseks esitada, siis saab kõvad plusspunktid. Vormistama aga alles hakkame. Üks kartograafiaproff (kes ülikoolis seda õpetab) lubas ka leida aega abistamiseks, aga mitte enne ülejärgmist nädalat. Siis teeks nii, et istuks koos maha ja vaataks

Re: [Talk-ee] kaardikonkurss

2010-10-15 Per discussione Joosep-Georg Järvemaa
Mina siis täna veel ei esita, kuna viimistleks veel pisut. -- Joosep-Georg ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee

Re: [Talk-ee] Aadressandmed importida OSM-i?

2010-10-15 Per discussione Margus Väli
Muudatuste pealevoogamine ja poolkäsitsi ohjamine on ju puhas utoopia. Pigem tuleks impordil sildistada aadressipunktid ära et hiljem oleks neist võimalik automaatselt üle sõita a-la Corine polügoonid. Kasvõi tõmmata nad kõik maha ja panna uuesti täiega peale? mv On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 11:10

Re: [Talk-ee] Aadressandmed importida OSM-i?

2010-10-15 Per discussione Margus Väli
Iva on selles, et hoida tuletatud andmeid nn. read-only mirror põhimõttel. Praktiliselt võib sellise lähenemisega majade aadressandmete käsitsi sildistamise üleüldse lõpetada. mv On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 11:24 +0300, Margus Väli wrote: Muudatuste pealevoogamine ja poolkäsitsi ohjamine on ju puhas

Re: [Talk-ee] Aadressandmed importida OSM-i?

2010-10-15 Per discussione Jaak Laineste
OSM siseselt ei saa kuidagi kontrollida andmeid pärast nende sisestust. Kõik mis seal sees on, on juba community oma ja igaüks võib teha nendega mis tahab. See on üldine filosoofia ja poliitika ning üldine consensus tundub olevat et nii ka jääb. On arutatud, kas väliseid baasivõtmeid on mõtet

Re: [Talk-ee] Aadressandmed importida OSM-i?

2010-10-15 Per discussione Margus Väli
Siin tuleb igaühel mingeid surrogaatrekvisiite pidama hakata et fikseerida ära millal viimati on OSM andmed ADS omadele järele lohistatud, et saaks sisuliselt kahe ajahetke vahel ADS baasi muudatused teatud piirkonnas kätte kui see üldse võimalik on. Maaamet väljastab regulaarselt muudatusi

Re: [Talk-ee] Aadressandmed importida OSM-i?

2010-10-15 Per discussione Mihkel Oviir
muudatuste jaoks on adsil eraldi x-tee teenus. Jaagu ettepanek on pro. Ei ole mingit pointi üritada vägisi asju uuendada, kui osm on olemuselt geoandmete wiki. algne import ja edasi tegutseb kommuun. muudatuste näitamise teenus on iseenesest hea mõte, küsitav on, kas siis tulevikus hakkame

Re: [Talk-ee] Aadressandmed importida OSM-i?

2010-10-15 Per discussione Jaak Laineste
Vaatasin nüüd sinna andmetele sisse ka. Sisuliselt on seal võetud ports registreid: maaregister, ehitis/hooneregister, ja veel mõned; nopitud sealt välja objekte mis võiksid kuidagi aadressiks kõlvata, neile mingid koordinaadid leiutatud ja siis ühtekokku pandud. Selle tulemusena tüüpiline

[Talk-at] Wien

2010-10-15 Per discussione Andreas Labres
Hi! Hab ich noch irgendein Klischee^WSujet vergessen auf http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2011/Bid/DE:Wien#Informationen_.C3.BCber_die_Stadt grübel? Servus, Andreas ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-cz] Import DIBAVOD - dotaz na další post up v případě duplicit

2010-10-15 Per discussione Zdeněk Pražák
Chtěl jsem se zeptat, jaký bude další postup v importu z DIBAVOD, zejména pokud se týká konfliktů s již dříve zmapovanými potoky. Příklad duplicitního zákresu viz Zubřina v Domažlicích. Bude někde vystaven seznam konfliktních úseků, nebo se bude muset projít celá mapa?

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] clé pour un resto

2010-10-15 Per discussione Jean-Marc Liotier
Francisco DOS SANTOS wrote: Exemple, tu te retrouves avec tes potes à un endroit X pour vous faire un resto (pourquoi un resto, bah c'est dans le titre du mail !) : - Les gars on se fait quoi comme resto chinois, italien ... ? - (après un long moment de réflexion...) chinois - Y a un chinois

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] clé pour un resto

2010-10-15 Per discussione f . dos . santos
Selon Pierre-Alain Dorange pdora...@mac.com: Car ces histoires du numéros de téléphone et même d'heure d'ouverture seront un casse tête a modifier et a mettre à jour. Ca risque d'être obsolète assez rapidement. Je suis bien conscient de l'obsolescence des données, c'est pourquoi le but d'OSM

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] clé pour un resto

2010-10-15 Per discussione Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 15/10/2010 14:50, f.dos.san...@free.fr a écrit : Pour finir j'insiste sur le fait qu'OSM et tous les contributeurs sont libre, il n'y a aucune obligation de mapper quoi que ce soit, vous n'avez pas à rentrer les numéros de téléphone si vous n'avez pas envie ou si cela ne correspond pas à

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rivières type=waterway : afflu ents et bras multiples

2010-10-15 Per discussione Guillaume Allegre
Le mer. 13 oct. 2010 à 16:40 +0200, sly (sylvain letuffe) a ecrit : Salut, Concernant les relations type=waterway J'ai un problème pour corriger les affluents sur un exemple précis connexion Ouvèze / Rhône, au nord d'Avignon :

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] clé pour un resto

2010-10-15 Per discussione Pieren
2010/10/15 f.dos.san...@free.fr Pour finir j'insiste sur le fait qu'OSM et tous les contributeurs sont libre, il n'y a aucune obligation de mapper quoi que ce soit, vous n'avez pas à rentrer les numéros de téléphone si vous n'avez pas envie ou si cela ne correspond pas à l'usage que vous

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] clé pour un resto

2010-10-15 Per discussione Stéphane Brunner
Hello, 2010/10/15 Pieren [via GIS] ml-node+5639142-413188166-176...@n2.nabble.com: 2010/10/15 [hidden email] Pour finir j'insiste sur le fait qu'OSM et tous les contributeurs sont libre, il n'y a aucune obligation de mapper quoi que ce soit, vous n'avez pas à rentrer les numéros de

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] clé pour un resto

2010-10-15 Per discussione Pieren
2010/10/15 Stéphane Brunner courr...@stephane-brunner.ch On parle tout de même d'un tag qui est accepter d'un grand nombre de personne, et qui est proposer comme tag de façon parfaitement correct. Après l'argument vous êtes pas obligés de faire pareil, il y a donc l'argument c'est documenté

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] clé pour un resto

2010-10-15 Per discussione Stéphane Brunner
C'est vraiment n'importe quoi tes réponse ... Tu t'ai lever du mauvais pied ce matin ? 2010/10/15 Pieren [via GIS] ml-node+5639323-1219485788-176...@n2.nabble.com: 2010/10/15 Stéphane Brunner [hidden email] On parle tout de même d'un tag qui est accepter d'un grand nombre de personne, et qui

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] clé pour un resto

2010-10-15 Per discussione f . dos . santos
Selon Pieren pier...@gmail.com: 2010/10/15 f.dos.san...@free.fr Pour finir j'insiste sur le fait qu'OSM et tous les contributeurs sont libre, il n'y a aucune obligation de mapper quoi que ce soit, vous n'avez pas à rentrer les numéros de téléphone si vous n'avez pas envie ou si cela

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