Re: [Talk-it] Accenti nei nomi di luogo

2015-01-10 Per discussione Matteo Quatrida
Il 09/01/2015 21:12, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: io capisco l'argomento di Alessandro, ma vorrei riccordare che il tag name non è solo una label per il rendering, è il tag che descrive il nome di un'oggetto. Per esempio serve anche per tirare dentro dati da altri fonti come wikipedia, dati

[Talk-cz] Přebírání dat od měst

2015-01-10 Per discussione Pavel Cvrček
Hezký den, nevím zda se to tu již řešilo, ale zeptám se. Pokud dá nějaké město (v tomto případě Plzeň) souhlas s odvozováním ze svých mapových podkladů, jaké formality je k tomu potřeba splnit? Někde to nahlásit či stačí obecné info z jejich strany, že je to možné? Na Wikipedii se převzaté

[OSM-talk] Keeping imported data updated with source changes

2015-01-10 Per discussione Wiktor Niesiobedzki
Hi, In Poland we have quite a few addresses imported from government sources for quite long time, but as time goes on, changes are made to the source databases, and local communities don't have any viable tools, to track, what has changed in source. In case of city of Skarżysko-Kamienna, local

[OSM-legal-talk] Attributions in WMS clients

2015-01-10 Per discussione Wiktor Niesiobedzki
Hi, We have in Poland some institutions that use WMS services, that use tiles generated from OSM. For example map available on: http://geoportal.nid.pl/nid/ Has layers (warstwa in Polish) - Openstreetmap kolorowy and OpenStreetMap - monochromatyczny and use some external party (Terrestris) as a

Re: [Talk-it] Accenti nei nomi di luogo

2015-01-10 Per discussione Matteo Quatrida
Il 09/01/2015 18:58, Volker Schmidt ha scritto: Vorrei ripetere quanto già detto: l'accento ausiliare su toponimi di alcune mappe italiane è una cosa italiania e funziona solo se conosci le regole di pronuncia italiana. Poi vorrei aggiungere che nei paesi di cui conosco le lingue e ho utilizzato

Re: [OSM-talk] Keeping imported data updated with source changes

2015-01-10 Per discussione Marc Gemis
As far as I know, the tools that generates the missing address in Flanders, does this purely based upon addr:street and addr:housenumber. Look at [1], and fill in e.g. 1980 or 2610 as postal code , check Load OSM data and press update Documentation for end-users can be found under the

Re: [OSM-talk] Keeping imported data updated with source changes

2015-01-10 Per discussione Jason Remillard
Hi Wiktor, I don't think an address tag is needed or desirable. The best way of doing this is to compare versions of the official data (perhaps every 6 months), making a list of things that have changed so that they can be examined in OSM. Of coarse the big issue is that the matching is not

Re: [Talk-GB] Hanbury Meeting - Fauld Crater

2015-01-10 Per discussione Donald Noble
I know that tagging for the renderer is not particularly helpful, however, might it be appropriate in this instance to map the significant slopes around the edges of the crater with man_made=embankment ? There are slopes there in reality, and they are made by human activity (even if not

Re: [Talk-cz] ŘOPíky

2015-01-10 Per discussione Lukáš Gebauer
Dne 10.1.2015 v 12:44 Karel Volný napsal(a): no, víme něco jiného, než že ropiky.net nás ignorují? - http://forum.ropiky.net/tema.php?id=1244118437 a když se Da se rict, ze vsechny ROPiky jsou na nasem uzemi zmapovane (od dochovanych, pres poskozene, rozestavene, az po planovane, co se ani

Re: [OSM-talk] Keeping imported data updated with source changes

2015-01-10 Per discussione Marc Gemis
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Wiktor Niesiobedzki o...@vink.pl wrote: 3. Addresses change. Currently there is no way to isolate the situation, that a point in OSM needs a change of street name, city name or housenumber, because this name changed has changed in the source. I can't mark all

[Talk-pe] Datea OSMpe

2015-01-10 Per discussione Diego de la Cruz - La Factura
Estimados integrantes de OSMpe Escribo en nombre del equipo de La Factura, quienes desarrollamos *Datea*, concebida como un espacio para compartir datos útiles con tu comunidad. Con Datea los usuarios pueden participar libremente, crear iniciativas y luego administrar, visualizar y difundir

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] Keeping imported data updated with source changes

2015-01-10 Per discussione Jo
If you would go with adding ref. I'd use ref:xyz where xyz is something which identifies who's foreign keys you are using. For the ones that are wrong in the external source but double checked, you could add source=survey or note=resurveyed Jo 2015-01-10 16:44 GMT+01:00 Jason Remillard

Re: [Talk-cz] ŘOPíky

2015-01-10 Per discussione Karel Volný
zdar a sílu, Zdravim, v souvislosti s generovanim vektorovych map pro Locus, jsme spolecne s Voldapetem, jez je autorem generovanych map, narazili na téma bunkru, takzvanych Ropiku. Zda-li je na mapach zobrazovat ci nikoliv, vzhledem k jejich velice ridkemu zmapovani. IMO jsou leckde dobrým

Re: [OSM-talk] Keeping imported data updated with source changes

2015-01-10 Per discussione Wiktor Niesiobedzki
I'd like to add a few words on the topic. First - the state of the OSM and sources in Poland: 1. Data sources and OSM use different standard of naming of the streets and not always it can be mapped automatically 2. Addresses change - some addresses change cities, some change streets, some gain

Re: [OSM-talk] Keeping imported data updated with source changes

2015-01-10 Per discussione Mateusz Konieczny
Documenting invalid entries in other database (adding elements only with addr:ref and source:addr) is a bad idea - such entries should not appear in OSM database. Also, there seems to be a project with a similar goal, called BANO (Base d'Adresses Nationale Ouverte). AFAIK it is covering France

[Talk-us] Bike route relation issues

2015-01-10 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
Hi all, I've encountered two problematic bike route relations in the US and would appreciate thoughts as to the best way to deal with them. One is the Great Divide Mountain Bike Route: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3161159 The other is I-5 in Oregon:

Re: [OSM-talk] Keeping imported data updated with source changes

2015-01-10 Per discussione Simon Poole
Addresses are trivial to match by geographic proximity and the actual values and given that addresses are one of the things that are quite likely to move and be attached to other objects (and loose any non-standard ref tags in the process) any tool that relies solely on such ref tags is going to

[Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Abbreviation Problem

2015-01-10 Per discussione Hans De Kryger
Has anyone thought about doing a mechanical edit for the San Diego address import to fix the abbreviation problem? I know it was discussed before, checking my saved emails it was talk about last July. Just never resolved. *Regards,* *Hans* *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13

Re: [Talk-cz] Nove preklady Wiki

2015-01-10 Per discussione Dalibor Jelínek
Ahoj, diky za korektury, ktere to vylepsily. Units – ty zakladni jednotky jsou ty implicitni (i kdyz v tom dela bordel distance, ktera je v km). S tim, ze je tam to deleni matouci souhlasim, ale maj to tak v anglickych strankach, tak jsem to proste prelozil. Nevim, proc to tam dali. Mazat

Re: [Talk-it] Problema rendering chiese

2015-01-10 Per discussione Paolo Monegato
Il 05/01/2015 16:35, Any File ha scritto: A leggere quello che c'è scritto nella pagina wiki Tag:building=church http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dchurch A building that was built as a church. Used in conjunction with amenity=place_of_worship, religion=* and denomination=* for

Re: [Talk-it] Accenti nei nomi di luogo

2015-01-10 Per discussione Paolo Monegato
Il 08/01/2015 20:05, Max1234Ita ha scritto: Stabilito che rendering e ricerche devono ( almeno dovrebbero) adattarsi ai contenuti del mappa ( e quindi se non trovano dei risultati che invece ci sono è colpa del codice), indicare l'accento sul parole irregolari è un corretta che il mappatore fa a

Re: [Talk-it] Donazione dati da parte creatore poigps.com

2015-01-10 Per discussione Giuliano
Il 16/07/2014 07:30, John Doe ha scritto: Mi sembra mi accennasti di questo tuo dubbio su IRC. Comunque non ne ho parlato con lui ancora. Aspetto sue notizie (sempre che non abbia cambiato idea nel frattempo), dopodiché discuteremo anche di

Re: [Talk-it] Donazione dati da parte creatore poigps.com

2015-01-10 Per discussione John Doe
Purtroppo no. Il founder di poigps.com non si è fatto più vivo nonostante abbia tentato di riaprire il discorso. Il giorno 10 gennaio 2015 22:13, Giuliano giuli...@zamboni.pro ha scritto: Il 16/07/2014 07:30, John Doe ha scritto: Mi sembra mi accennasti di questo tuo dubbio su IRC.

Re: [OSM-talk] Keeping imported data updated with source changes

2015-01-10 Per discussione Wiktor Niesiobedzki
2015-01-10 16:44 GMT+01:00 Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.com: Hi Wiktor, I don't think an address tag is needed or desirable. The best way of doing this is to compare versions of the official data (perhaps every 6 months), making a list of things that have changed so that they can

Re: [Talk-pe] [talk-latam] Reunión de comunidad OSM Perú

2015-01-10 Per discussione Johnattan Rupire
o Chromium ya estamos online... El 10/01/15 a las 21:48, Jo escribió: Para quienes no están en Lima, hay este canal de teleconferencia: https://meet.jit.si/osmpe Solo funciona en Chrome, pero. Polyglot 2015-01-05 19:01 GMT+01:00 Johnattan Rupire jarja...@riseup.net

Re: [Talk-GB] Hanbury Meeting - Fauld Crater

2015-01-10 Per discussione SK53
I resorted to natural=cliff on the sink hole under Eyam Edge, but there the sides were vertical. There has recently been a fair bit of discussion about extending cliff tags, and one of the cases is for non-vertical ones! Jerry On 10 January 2015 at 21:38, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] New Street Station

2015-01-10 Per discussione Andy Mabbett
At last Thursday's meetup, we discussed re-mapping New Street Station, and the challenges that will pose. One thing we will need is aerial photography, or pictures from overlooking buildings: not to trace, but for a general overview. I've made a start at collecting links, at:

Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues

2015-01-10 Per discussione James Umbanhowar
The GDMBR issue seems to be a conflict between tagging for the renderer and tagging for the router ;). To play a little bit of devil's advocate, gravel roads are eminently bikeable to many non-mountain bikes. Bike manufacturers have come out with gravel grinder style bikes which are really just

Re: [Talk-it] Edifici e complessi edilizi suddivisi in parti

2015-01-10 Per discussione Paolo Monegato
Il 05/01/2015 15:33, Marco_T ha scritto: Al solito sto' inserendo tag wikipedia e mi sorge un dubbio (in prospettiva di futuri rendering 3d). A Vicenza, per esempio, ci sono singole chiese mappate con piu' di un poligono (credo in relazione all'altezza del corpo del fabbricato: navata

Re: [Talk-GB] Hanbury Meeting - Fauld Crater

2015-01-10 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 10/01/2015 17:09, Donald Noble wrote: I know that tagging for the renderer is not particularly helpful, however, might it be appropriate in this instance to map the significant slopes around the edges of the crater with man_made=embankment ? There are slopes there in reality, and they are

Re: [OSM-talk] Keeping imported data updated with source changes

2015-01-10 Per discussione Jason Remillard
Hi Wiktor, If you want to automated this, you will need a database outside of OSM, that stores the matches between the municipiality and OSM addresses. the municipal differences over time, the OSM differences over time. The same underlying matching algorithm previously described is used to create

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM in French

2015-01-10 Per discussione althio althio
We are proud to announce to the OSM community our French version of weeklyOSM. The weeklyOSM French Team is quite new and will be presented shortly. All the best! http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-ja] タイルサーバ、生きてます?

2015-01-10 Per discussione Hiroshi Miura(@osmf)
三浦です 今回は、台湾のキャシュサーバのトラブルです。 tw.tile.openstreetmap.org そろそろ、日本のキャッシュサーバの立ち上げを かんがえるタイミングなのかもしれません。 On 2015年01月11日 12:51, Satoru Takeuchi wrote: さきほど試したら正常に標準タイルサーバを参照できました。少なくとも私から 見える範囲では治ったようです。誰かが管理者に連絡してくれたのですかね。 なお、私の場合、http://www.openstreetmap.org/ からのマップ参照で ◯:

Re: [OSM-ja] タイルサーバ、生きてます?

2015-01-10 Per discussione Satoru Takeuchi
2015年1月11日 12:14 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp: ikiyaです。 昼前、JOSMで編集してましたが、編集できてデータもアップOK、mapnikでも編集内容は反映されました。 参考まで。 さきほど試したら正常に標準タイルサーバを参照できました。少なくとも私から 見える範囲では治ったようです。誰かが管理者に連絡してくれたのですかね。 なお、私の場合、http://www.openstreetmap.org/ からのマップ参照で ◯: サイクリングマップ、交通マップ、MapQuestOpen, Humanitarian ✖:

Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues

2015-01-10 Per discussione Kerry Irons
By the logic that I-5 in Oregon is tagged as a bike route, then all roads in the US that don't prohibit bicycles should be tagged likewise. Obviously that logic is incorrect. There is no body, official or otherwise, that calls I-5 in Oregon a bike route. Kerry Irons Adventure Cycling

[OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: weeklyOSM en français

2015-01-10 Per discussione althio althio
Bonjour, Nous sommes fiers de vous annoncer la naissance de la version française de weeklyOSM. Les éditions n°231 et n°232 de weeklyOSM viennent de paraître en français. Retrouvez sur http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/ votre petit condensé de l'actualité du monde d'OSM. Bonne lecture ! L'équipe

Re: [OSM-ja] タイルサーバ、生きてます?

2015-01-10 Per discussione ikiya
ikiyaです。 昼前、JOSMで編集してましたが、編集できてデータもアップOK、mapnikでも編集内容は反映されました。 参考まで。 - Original Message - From: Satoru Takeuchi satoru.takeu...@gmail.com To: OpenStreetMap Japanese talk talk-ja@openstreetmap.org Date: 2015/1/11, Sun 12:07 Subject: Re: [OSM-ja] タイルサーバ、生きてます? 2015年1月11日 7:37 ribbon

Re: [Talk-de] F: Kreuzungsfreiheit bei trunk

2015-01-10 Per discussione Michael Kugelmann
Am 09.01.2015 um 15:23 schrieb Andreas Neumann: trunk soll bei autobahnähnlichen Ausbauzustand verwendet werden. Die Schnellstraße in Jena ist zum Teil so gebaut, jedoch hat sie nun an einigen Stellen Fußgängerampeln. Meiner Meinung nach, ist sie damit nicht mehr Kreuzungsfrei. Sehe ich das

Re: [Talk-cz] Přebírání dat od měst

2015-01-10 Per discussione Marián Kyral
Ahoj, Dne 10.1.2015 v 11:10 Pavel Cvrček napsal(a): Hezký den, nevím zda se to tu již řešilo, ale zeptám se. Pokud dá nějaké město (v tomto případě Plzeň) souhlas s odvozováním ze svých mapových podkladů, jaké formality je k tomu potřeba splnit? Někde to nahlásit či stačí obecné info z

[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [Talk-GB] weeklyOSM in French

2015-01-10 Per discussione Marc Gemis
-- Forwarded message -- From: althio althio althio.fo...@gmail.com Date: Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:09 AM Subject: [Talk-GB] weeklyOSM in French To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org, talk...@openstreetmap.org We are proud to announce to the OSM community our French version