Re: [Talk-us] Off-highway vehicle recreation areas

2020-06-06 Per discussione Joseph Eisenberg
A leisure=park is supposed to be similar to a town park; an area with managed vegetation where you might walk around or recreate. An OHV area is not like this: "A park is an area of open space for recreational use, usually designed and in semi-natural state with grassy areas, trees and bushes. ...

Re: [Talk-us] USFS Roads - name and ref

2020-06-06 Per discussione Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 4:15 PM Bob Gambrel wrote: > Paul's in depth answer of my question was very helpful. Luckily I am not > concentrating on road/highway routes. I like the concept of: > > We should be moving forward towards > all routes being tagged in a route relation so we can phase out

Re: [Talk-us] USFS Roads - name and ref

2020-06-06 Per discussione Bob Gambrel
Paul's in depth answer of my question was very helpful. Luckily I am not concentrating on road/highway routes. I like the concept of: We should be moving forward towards all routes being tagged in a route relation so we can phase out route attributes on ways, freeing those up for *the way's

Re: [Talk-us] Rail tagging in US (and North America): operator=* and reporting_marks=*

2020-06-06 Per discussione stevea
I point out for those who might not know this: rail tagging, despite excellent efforts by the ORM folks (largely in Germany, I understand) to encourage OSM to follow global tagging conventions for ORM, have already quite seriously fractured (necessarily) into country-specific tagging

Re: [Talk-us] Rail tagging in US (and North America): operator=* and reporting_marks=*

2020-06-06 Per discussione stevea
Volker (hello!) discusses that the tag (used in the USA, but not extensively) of "reporting_marks" isn't (I paraphrase him a bit) "as international as OSM might like it," and proposes presumed-better tag "operator_identifier" (I correct a minor spelling error in his posted suggestion). Volker

Re: [Talk-us] USFS Roads - name and ref

2020-06-06 Per discussione Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:46 PM Bob Gambrel wrote: > Paul Johnson says > > Ultimately consider adding a route relation with network=US:NSFR:Forest > Name:FH/FR as well so we can finally kill off route tagging on things that > are not routes. > > > I am not doing any mapping for forest roads, but

Re: [Talk-us] USFS Roads - name and ref

2020-06-06 Per discussione Bob Gambrel
Paul Johnson says Ultimately consider adding a route relation with network=US:NSFR:Forest Name:FH/FR as well so we can finally kill off route tagging on things that are not routes. I am not doing any mapping for forest roads, but the above caught my eye. I am doing a lot of bike path/trail

Re: [Talk-us] USFS Roads - name and ref

2020-06-06 Per discussione Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:24 PM brad wrote: > On 6/6/20 9:24 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 8:24 AM Mike Thompson wrote: > >> ref: >> The wiki states that these should be ref=FR + . In >> practice: >> * ref:usfs=FS + >> * ref=FS + >> Most of the changesets that added a

Re: [Talk-us] USFS Roads - name and ref

2020-06-06 Per discussione brad
On 6/6/20 9:24 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 8:24 AM Mike Thompson > wrote: ref: The wiki states that these should be ref=FR + . In practice: * ref:usfs=FS + * ref=FS + Most of the changesets that added a "ref:usfs" tag include

Re: [Talk-us] Off-highway vehicle recreation areas

2020-06-06 Per discussione stevea
Tod Fitch writes: > I have noticed a couple of off-highway vehicle recreation areas that are > tagged with things that seem incorrect to me: As generic parks or as > protected areas. The one near me (way/40263471, Hollister Hills State Vehicular Recreation Area, SVRA) I myself have tagged

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Institut d'éducation motrice

2020-06-06 Per discussione Yves P.
> Le type:FR:FINESS=192 n'est pas renseigné sur > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Comment_cartographier_un_(sant%C3%A9) > > et je n'ai aucune idée de ce que cela représente. C'est comme les IME / ITEP > ???

[OSM-talk-fr] Institut d'éducation motrice

2020-06-06 Per discussione Georges Dutreix via Talk-fr
Bonjour, Quelqu'un a-t-il une idée pour étiqueter cette structure : http://finess.sante.gouv.fr/fininter/jsp/actionDetailEtablissement.do?noFiness=370104457 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/803460696 Le type:FR:FINESS=192 n'est pas renseigné sur

Re: [Talk-us] Off-highway vehicle recreation areas

2020-06-06 Per discussione brad
Good question.   At first glance I don't think Leisure=park is wrong.  The wiki is characteristically narrow since it says that it is green.   leisure=sports_center or landuse=recreation_ground would be better.   leisure=pitch doesn't seem right even thought the sport=motocross wiki page

Re: [Talk-it] Completare le mappe e Wikipedia

2020-06-06 Per discussione Laurentius
On mer, 2020-06-03 at 22:23 +0200, Maurizio Napolitano wrote: > Il progetto è anche un po' "vecchietto" e nel frattempo è stato > > superato dall'integrazione con wikidata. In tema di integrazione con Wikidata, è comodo anche questo, che agevola il collegamento dagli oggetti di OpenStreetMap

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-06 Per discussione Dave F via talk
Do you have an example? Whether it's a bridge or tunnel is fairly easily defined by determining which is taking the load. If a tunnel's structure was removed, would whitewater's above it collapse? If 'yes' then it's a tunnel. DaveF On 06/06/2020 16:48, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-06 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 5. Jun 2020, at 15:44, Dave F via talk wrote: > > There can't be both a tunnel and bridge. It's one or the other. This goes for > all scenarios, including roads. you can have both, but it is rare... and it depends on your definitions of course (e.g. you might call

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Attributions manquantes sur Mon GR !

2020-06-06 Per discussione Vincent Bergeot
Le 06/06/2020 à 16:21, Georges Dutreix via Talk-fr a écrit : Bonjour, Est-ce sûr ? Si ce sont des données OSM, elles ne sont pas récentes. Je viens de tester, ils n'affichent pas un bâtiment qui a été touché la dernière fois il y a 8 ans dans OSM. concernant l'affichage par défaut, je ne

[Talk-it] Aggiornamento civici comune di Fiè allo Sciliar BZ

2020-06-06 Per discussione Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi
Ciao. Ho ricevuto una richiesta di aggiornamento dei civici per il comune in oggetto (inviata a me perché sono l'ultimo che li ha modificati visto che un paio di anni fa ho convertito gli apostrofi in accenti). I civici sono stati importati nel 2014 e l'import dovrebbe essere quello documentato

Re: [Talk-us] USFS Roads - name and ref

2020-06-06 Per discussione Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 8:24 AM Mike Thompson wrote: > ref: > The wiki states that these should be ref=FR + . In > practice: > * ref:usfs=FS + > * ref=FS + > Most of the changesets that added a "ref:usfs" tag include a very helpful > comment that this issue was discussed on the tagging list at

Re: [Talk-us] USFS Roads - name and ref

2020-06-06 Per discussione Max Erickson
Abbreviations are predominant in US highway refs, so I think that it is fine to use one in USFS road refs. At some point in time I had used ref=USFS xxx but changed stuff that I had edited to ref=FS xxx. The usage of FS in Michigan is largely a product of either my editing directly or my

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Attributions manquantes sur Mon GR !

2020-06-06 Per discussione Georges Dutreix via Talk-fr
Bonjour, Est-ce sûr ? Si ce sont des données OSM, elles ne sont pas récentes. Je viens de tester, ils n'affichent pas un bâtiment qui a été touché la dernière fois il y a 8 ans dans OSM. Le 05/06/2020 à 12:22, Vincent Bergeot a écrit : Le 04/06/2020 à 21:01, Yves P. a écrit : Bonsoir,

Re: [Talk-it] bike lanes su openstreetmap

2020-06-06 Per discussione Volker Schmidt
Grazie, Fabio, per gli esempi extra-Padovani. Avevo visto la nota su "Advisory". Il problema è che le nuove corsie non lo sono per motivo dell'obbligo per bici di andare sempre sulla parte più a destra della strada. (non ricordo più la dicitura esatta, ma la dicitura è diversa di quella per il

[Talk-us] USFS Roads - name and ref

2020-06-06 Per discussione Mike Thompson
Hello, This question concerns ways maintained/operated by the US Forest Service (USFS) and signed with vertical markers, e.g. [0]. These signs typically display a three digit number, with an optional decimal point (dot/period) followed by another number and/or a letter. Name: The wiki [1]

Re: [Talk-it] relazioni tra relazioni ( raggruppare le alte via delle dolomiti)

2020-06-06 Per discussione mbranco2
Ciao Andrea, abbiamo parlato varie volte delle relazioni padre (super relazioni) e del tipo di relazioni type=network. Ripeto anche qui che secondo me non è il caso di farle (perché non fare allora relazioni per le alte vie della Valle d'Aosta, o delle Alpi Orientali / Occidentali, o

[OSM-talk-be] Mappen van fietssnelwegen, mapping of cycling highways

2020-06-06 Per discussione Jo
English below Hallo, Het mappen van fietssnelwegen op OSM is een beetje een uitdaging. Persoonlijk heb ik graag routerelaties die een continue reeks van ways zijn, maar de fietssnelwegen liggen er nagenoeg nergens over hun volle lengte. Ik vind het interessant om de geplande fietssnelwegen nu al

Re: [Talk-it] bike lanes su openstreetmap

2020-06-06 Per discussione Fabio Bettani
Voglio precisare che ho già visto (dal vivo o in foto) diverse bike lane realizzate secondo questa nuova norma in varie città d'Italia (Milano, Genova, Roma, e in progetto a Bologna, dove già però ce n'erano alcune pre-Covid), e quella pericolosità al momento l'ho vista solo a Padova. A Genova,

[OSM-talk-ie] OpenStreetMap Ireland Annual General Meeting

2020-06-06 Per discussione Ciarán Staunton
Date for your diary: 27th June 2020 will be the osmIRL annual general meeting. The meeting will be virtual, since the Covid-19 threat will still prevent gatherings of more than 6 people on that date. Subscribers will get a formal invitation shortly, but other community members are welcome to