On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 8:56 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
Motorbike riders are exempt from a number of things cars aren't,
...
So doesn't entirely surprise me.
Interesting. So this potentially means all access=destination tags
should be changed to motor_vehicle=destination +
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 7:41 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/1/16 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
Interesting. So this potentially means all access=destination tags
should be changed to motor_vehicle=destination + motorcycle=yes. Would
be better to first get
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 12:16 PM, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote:
It's all a matter of tradeoffs and what is most important to you - being able
to use it for whatever you want, or getting the most data in OSM.
Well said. Funny thing is, they're not independent - i.e. making OSM
data
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 2:43 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
If we can get people making editors to add tags to changesets based on
your license preference then any PD data, even if it's changed later
to become ODBL, can be collected.
...
the changeset might be good enough, as
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
For the time being, it might be best to tag them with a specific
local_traffic_only=yes or something, so we know exactly what is
being encoded.
+1. I've emailed QLD gov and Brisbane CC about what the signs mean,
though
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
Logically, access=destination would apply to all forms of traffic.
So you should tag it motor_vehicle=destination, right?
I don't know. What are you basing that on? Can you legally ride a bike
through a Local Traffic
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
I would have thought so, because afaik these rules are to reduce
traffic noise. Bicycles not being noisy, I would have thought they
weren't included.
Maybe, but it's unclear... Anyone good at chasing down legal
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote:
Trying to drive or route to disconnected nodes is
nonsensical.
A question, then: what proportion of OSM POI's are disconnected?
Should we be taking steps (in terms of mapping guidelines) to ensure
POI nodes and buildings (and
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:59 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On a related issue re: 2), in the case of multiple businesses
sharing a building (e.g. a typical AU shopping centre with entrances
on the outside of the building), is it advisable to place a POI node
This is
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
At that point we're really straying beyond making a map, aren't we?
I'm already a little dubious about the value of recording the
locations of professional services like lawyers. Why not just have a
separate project for
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:57 PM, cam_...@fastmail.fm wrote:
Would anyone else like to comment?
Yes, but as John asked can you point us to the example? Would make it
easier to follow...
As for 2 The ways cross without a common node but are on different
layers. (Although physically using the
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
If this is the standard process, could it be documented? It's extremely
unclear at the moment what the process is for getting new tags supported.
You currently have this chicken-and-egg situation where you don't know if
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
To establish whether it's a useful way? Nah, the process must have a
stronger outcome or it's pointless.
Or, if you like, to establish whether it's the *best* way to model it
in the OSM database. I entirely disagree that
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:25 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/1/7 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
No.
bicycle=yes means it's legal for bicycles (The public has an
official, legally-enshrined right of access).
bicycle=designated means it's designated for bicycles (The way
2010/1/6 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
Just a thought - I haven't thought this through - could relation be used to
form a close relationship between a road and a track?
Sorry if this has been mentioned before.
See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations#Proposed_uses_of_Relations
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 06.01.2010 15:41, schrieb Valent Turkovic:
... I didn't understand that people just use keys
that they want no matter it there aren't listed in OSM features list
on Wiki...
...
If there's no such thing in the
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
===Cycleway===
I would say shared use paths vastly outnumber bike-only paths, so I propose
bicycle=designated foot=designated. Horse...no? Paths that allow horses,
like rail trails, aren't too rare, but can be catered
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/1/7 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au:
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 10:49 +1000, Stephen Hope wrote:
From a quick skim of the wiki, it seems that 'bicycle=yes' means that
bicycles are allowed on the way, where
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:51 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm sorry, but accuracy is important to some of us, and using
commercial data is inaccurate, visiting is one way to get correct
information, as is contacting the council responsible for the roads.
Absolutely, but
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Craig Feuerherdt
craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote:
They include all ways, not just vehicular roads.
Essentially the State Government layer also contains some non-vehicular ways
as well, so it is difficult to compare apples with apples.
Is the State Government
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
You have to be able to copy facts from time to time.
And that means you have to use your own judgment as to what constitutes a
copyright infringement and what constitutes legitimate research.
Use your own judgment? On this issue, I
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Richard Mann
richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Perhaps we do need to fork the project and create openmap.org so we can
get away from a fundamental belief that 'the road rules'?
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
I find it incredibly strange that you're more comfortable relying on the
consensus than your own judgment, but hey, whatever works for you.
To put it in other words for you, as to what constitutes a copyright
infringement, I'm more
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
To put it in other words for you, as to what constitutes a copyright
infringement, I'm more confident in the consensus legal opinion than
in my own legal opinion.
I wasn't aware that there was a consensus legal opinion as to what
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't really decided, and I don't know where the line from
non-systematic to systematic is.
I don't think anyone does. Hence it's near impossible to ensure you
don't step over it - which is why the large majority of
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 5:56 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
Any idea if/how/where to get this info for other states?
For QLD, a quick search suggests perhaps these sites, as a start:
http://www.mainroads.qld.gov.au/en/Driving-in-Queensland.aspx
(includes Guide to Queensland
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
... I think it would probably be a
good thing if renderers distinguished as little as possible between
properties on ways and properties on relations.
+1. Tagging the way should override the tag on the relation, where
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:22 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
The reason I ask is someone mentioned the info was from an internal
document...
No, the Vic stuff is from the web.
Maybe it's wrong of me to assume that most of the major ways in
Brisbane would have been done to
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Craig Feuerherdt
craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote:
I have created a table summarising the length of roads by postcode. The
table compares the State Government data with OSM data (from cloudmade).
This is great. May I ask where it is? (I thought you may have added
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote:
Steve Bennett wrote:
I'm even tempted to draw a massive straight line between several
towns to indicate roads that I know exist but that I haven't
surveyed. Would this offend a lot of people here?
That would be using
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 1:46 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
There is no point endangering the
genuinely collected data for the sake of some lazy copying.
This is not fairly worded. In Australia (and other sparsely populated
areas), it is not just for the sake of some lazy
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote:
... I get the impression that the group
of Australians currently so active on the mailing list isn't lazy but they
are certainly impatient.
Perhaps :) But my point is, if there may be legal ways to do this more
efficiently we
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:13 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
Speed cameras are a bit of a mess tagging wise, some add a node others
add a relation, but I don't think any method renders on OSM...
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Speed_trap
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Craig Feuerherdt
craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote:
Happy New Year OSMers!
Have created a page listing all the Victorian routes (M, A, B C roads) -
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Victoria%2C_Australia/Routes.
Woah this is a great idea. Have you
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
IMHO they justify an extra way, as there is clearly a physical
separation and two separate areas of bitumen. (Go ahead and add a
whole extra node
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:39 AM, Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com wrote:
So, numbers on signs about restrictions (maximum speed, maximum height,
maximum length, maximum weight...): trailing zeros have no value, as those
numbers are exact.
Not necessarily. Perhaps the number on the sign came from
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 5:47 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
The only problem with this scheme is you can't do, first sunday of the
month for example.
Surely someone in some field has already come across this problem
before - i.e. surely someone's already developed a formal
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
think it might have to be derived, e.g.
http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/vb-date2.htm#Month
http://code.google.com/p/datejs/
That's a shame. But iso 8601 is probably still a good starting point.
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
ava...@gmail.com wrote:
And that's just fine, GMM getting more users doesn't make OSM worse.
But there is a limited supply of people willing to become mappers. I
see it as a case of market share (between GMM and OSM).
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org wrote:
Instead of bashing on about Google do this and Google do that, ...
It's still interesting (for some) to keep an eye on what other
projects are doing...
why not try
to see how we can improve OSM standing, so that more
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
Can't help but wonder
if Australian cities will ever have that level of detail...
Hell yeah they will.
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On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
What software do people use to manage their GPX files? Mainly I want to be
able to upload sections of GPX – rather than the whole thing – to Potlatch.
And it might be nice to be able to combine a couple of traces into
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote:
Ok, I tried this myself and it doesn't work, seemingly because the
slippymap plugin attempts to fetch tiles from url/*/*/*.jpg, rather
than urlz=zx=xy=ynml=Vert.
What is the URL format? If it's possible to change the
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote:
Ok, I tried this myself and it doesn't work, seemingly because the
slippymap plugin attempts to fetch tiles from url/*/*/*.jpg, rather
than urlz=zx
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:44 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/12/29 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
Actually, in addition to this, it would be great if you could allow
the date to be specified in the path, i.e. allow us to make requests
in the form of http
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
My 2 cents: anything that is less important than tertiary is:
1) if it is a named/public road:
* residential if lined primarily with people's homes and used
primarily by people accessing those homes
* unclassified
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote:
As long as you know the state default speed limit, this is easy to
tag. It is exactly the same as a sign with that limit.
If so, just remember to indicate the source as discussed at:
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
I'm perfectly fine with letting the people in council waste their time with
subjective categorization and then either 1) copying the results, if they
have some sort of legal distinction; or 2) ignoring them altogether, if they
Anyone know what the deal is with this?:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/316607432
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On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 7:42 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/12/23 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
Interestingly, there is NO mention of mapping data. Amazing. How can
they continue to omit this from the discussion?
Actually thereg did a good run down on this:
http
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 7:56 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
Any reason you want to use Yahoo imagery instead of NearMap?
NearMap doesn't seem to cover China just yet :)
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Via
http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2009/12/indigenous-mapping-new-google.html
Google and the Indigenous Mapping Network are teaming up to put on a
two day workshop on the Google campus to teach people from native
communities how to use Google's mapping technologies.
I wonder if the
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 6:43 AM, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote:
I wonder if the Indigenous Mapping Network have heard of OSM?
No. Next question?
Why? Google has brand power and solid PR department, which they aren't
ashamed to put into use.
Why? Because it seems like a very
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
... I view all this Google activity not with the same
skepticism that others seem to have. I think someone who is mapping for
Google is still better than someone who is not mapping at all!
That's not skepticism, but
Currently, it's my understanding that, if you're running Ubuntu and
want to contribute by tracing imagery, you have to follow the
instructions here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/WMSPlugin#On_Ubuntu_9.10_.27Karmic_Koala.27
Is this right? If so, it seems to me that this might be
Check it out, originally an email to Googlers about the meaning of
'open' as it relates to the Internet, Google, and our users, via:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/meaning-of-open.html
We can photograph the world's streets so that you can explore the
neighborhood around an apartment you
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
After that it might be wise to figure out some strategy to monitor
changes to admin boundaries to limit the effect of mistakes in future.
Easy fix.
Don't join other ways to them.
I don't get it. If I join another way
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 7:04 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/12/23 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
After that it might be wise to figure out some strategy to monitor
changes to admin boundaries
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:42 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
The problem I'm really trying to solve is with the slippymap plugin,
because it is compiled and the URL isn't easily setable/changeable
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:42 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
I've just update a matilda location with information from their
website (types of fuel sold etc).
Any way, they list services on their station locations like hot food,
groceries, dry cleaning etc:
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:46 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
Feel free, but these locations are all tagged with fixme=not_reviewed
and show up in things like keepright etc, and as I said before I even
made a custom page for the bp locations to make it simpler again.
IMHO it
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
Specifically, though, I'm wondering why use amenity:atm=yes rather
than atm=yes? Is there ever some atm that isn't an amenity?
It's for when there are several amenities sharing one node. Not that any
renderers/editors
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:43 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:atm=yes
this was Roy's point
amenity:atm=yes is not consistent with the page I just mentioned
I
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
I have not changed the current intersection in osm but here are two screen
shots of the intersection in josm.
http://www.4x4falcon.com/osm/junctions/intersection_messy.jpg
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 1:03 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
... seems to include a
lot of disclaimers about the information being best effort/use at own
risk...
Probably just covering their back - because people looking for a
hospital do tend to be at risk if the data's
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
In that case, the voting means nothing at all? Weird.
From my perspective, voting's similar to asking for opinions on an
email list, just with the added benefit of yes/no responses and
documentation of results.
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 9:46 AM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote:
I thought long and hard about this issue before I make the first
correction to a local roundabout. I came to the conclusion that
roundabout entry and exit points should be separate.
Sure, and I see the logic - but the
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 10:28 AM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote:
Steve Bennett wrote:
Yeah, good work. Should the name be Bairnsdale Centrelink or just
Centrelink?
I'm all for putting town/suburb names in as well. One place where it
matters is looking up POIs on GPS units.
These
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
I feel weird tagging name=Bowls Club - that's clearly not the name
I would feel weird too! If you don't know the name, PLEASE don't enter a name=*.
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On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
This is an interesting example. The _messy and _simple techniques,
of course, could just as well be described as _complete and
_approximate, etc.
No _messy is over mapped and _simple is accurate.
This is subjective
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
I feel weird tagging name=Bowls Club - that's clearly not the name
I would feel weird too! If you don't know the name, PLEASE don't enter a
name=*.
This must be important to you. Why so?
People tag A=B when they
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll keep investigating the idea of a centralised rules table
though.
Cool - if so, it might be interesting to see how this could relate to
the wiki also, not just renderers. Good luck :)
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 6:59 AM, morb@beagle.com.au wrote:
In the first case I have edited the entry, exit and roundabout as meeting at
exactly one node. IMHO this represents reality and if the router can't handle
it then the router should be upgraded to suit (or its OSM-to-router-format
Apparently, OSM is lacking a bus:
http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2009/12/mapping-india-on-googles-internet-bus.html
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On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:20 PM, swanilli swani...@gmail.com wrote:
Two points:
1. The terminology foot=designated and bicycle=designated is confusing,
since the opposite of designated is not no but undesignated or
non-designated. Just leave it as it is on thousands of ways as
bicycle=yes or
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
An idea came to me the other day about some kind of intro to OSM
video, with a noticibly Australian slant to it.
I've seen a couple of intro videos for different editors, but I had
something else in mind, where we
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:10 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
So... sports_centre for the actual sporting facilities, something_club
for the commercial bit? Maybe social_club? club_rooms, while it
sounded good for the buildings members genuinely use for their
meetings and
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:08 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/12/15 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
Thought I might chip in to me this seems to be a matter of trying
to cram a complex and ambiguous meaning into a single tag. I couldn't
help but be reminded
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
One question, though, for Australian shared path, shouldn't this be:
highway=cycleway, bicycle=designated, foot=designated
rather than
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Liz wrote:
we're having another discussion about this same point concurrently on
t...@openstreetmap.org
and making a number of suggestions there
care to join in?
bum steer
tagg...@openstreetmap.org
And can I
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:42 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
The problem I'm really trying to solve is with the slippymap plugin,
because it is compiled and the URL isn't easily setable/changeable by
a user, there is no options to tweak the URL in the plugin
interface/settings
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
so i filled the Australian guidelines page with definitions from the road
rules
hope no one gets offended!
Nice work. I'm adding talk-au to this discussion. Liz has updated:
If The License Change goes ahead, will that have any influence on, say, the
legality of tracing from nearmap imagery?
Does it appear as though some contributions will have to be removed if The
License Change happens?
If so, what kind of contributions?
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/12/9 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
If The License Change goes ahead, will that have any influence on, say, the
legality of tracing from nearmap imagery?
Does it appear as though some contributions will have
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
If I have data derived from OSM data, do I have to distribute it? The
licence does not force you to distribute or make any data available. But if
you do choose to distribute it, or anything derived from it, it
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/12/1 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
And then both axes are not really boolean. Between the physically
possible and the physically impossible may lie an area that requires
more skill, better vehicles
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote:
It would also be possible to solve the problem generically for the whole
planet.
The real problem is that many people claim that there is no problem or
that they have already solved it and everybody should just do as they do.
+1
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
IMHO Don't piss off the whole world, just piss off one country is a bad
solution, if there is no need to piss off anyone at all.
+1
Yes, but I would like us to define what the different national defaults are,
so that
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
IMHO Don't piss off the whole world, just piss off one country is a
bad
solution, if there is no need to piss off anyone at all.
+1
I see
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
I wish we could codify these general assumptions. Because they won't be
universal, which means there is bad map data being generated.
I think it's critical that this stuff be summarised on the wiki.
Besides being highly
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Richard Mann
richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
I didn't resolve it because either the UK view or the German view (or some
other view) has to be the default. What we can't agree is which should be
the default.
Does it matter?? How hard is it to tag
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
Am I out of line here? Of course I want to see a globally consistent, useful
database. But ultimately, I want to see the most number of users happy with
their local data. And if that means tags mean something slightly
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
Does it matter?? How hard is it to tag cycleways and bridleways with
foot=yes/no??
I would have no problem with that, if it helped give us
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
An area of grass is - to me - not a path. A path, IMHO, is something
that exists independently of people walking or not walking on it (i.e.
usually you can *see* that it resembles a path).
-1, a path is either
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
I think we should aim for a globally consistent database, because
1) I travel a fair bit (I've never been to Bulgaria, but maybe someday
soon
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
What if I map the entire section of grass which is within the right of
way as a polygon with highway=path, area=yes? That's how we represent
infinite overlapping criss-crossing invisible-paths, like a
pedestrian mall.
Not bad.
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
Um...what??? That will not write itself. Do you expect us to
successfully digitize and maintain a database of all laws of all
countries?
What do you think? Work with me, here.
I think that would be a nightmare, and
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote:
On Monday 30 November 2009 22:25:36 Roy Wallace wrote:
1) I can convince you guys that this approach is the best way to get
global consistency, and that that's important;
2) people realise that editors can be used to avoid
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
Roy Wallace wrote:
Routing software that is aware of the local laws of each country seems
obvious.
Um...what??? That will not write itself. Do you expect us to
successfully digitize and maintain a database of all laws
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, Roy Wallace wrote:
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote:
On Monday 30 November 2009 22:25:36 Roy Wallace wrote:
1) I can convince you guys that this approach is the best way to get
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