Re: [Talk-transit] Making bus lines more specific

2020-04-28 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
Hello Robin, I highly agree with you. The main reason for PTv2 not having as widespread adoption as it could have is that it is not rendered, that is to say, it is not rendered on OSM_carto (Osmand's rendering of PTv2 is near-perfect). However, we're stuck with a rendering "committee" that

Re: [Talk-transit] Making bus lines more specific

2020-04-28 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
I have long ago proposed an addition to the PTv2 "route" schedule, which is the "formula" tag. Formula's would be defined within a network (or within a nation). For example, in the Netherlands, almost every transport network has so-called "buurtbus", litterally "neighbourhood bus" although

Re: [Talk-transit] Multiple ref=* on route=train

2019-11-20 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 19-11-19 12:25, Tony OSM wrote: Hi Janko In my experience all railway companies give a journey a reference Headcode like that, though the format differs. In Great Britain the format used is ncnn, so for example 2P44 is a train from Manchester Victoria to Preston  departing 10:05. the next

Re: [Talk-transit] Long bus routes

2019-08-05 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 05-08-19 13:22, Dave F via Talk-transit wrote: On 02/08/2019 14:35, Janko Mihelić wrote: I think they should be mapped as relations with only stations in the relation. How would you perform real-time tracking? I think that is not something one does on OSM.

Re: [Talk-transit] Long bus routes

2019-08-02 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 02-08-19 15:35, Janko Mihelić wrote: A user in Europe started adding long bus lines some time ago. These routes are crossing several countries and mostly drive along motorways. Here is a piece of motorway between Berlin and Dresden: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/313980637 it has two

Re: [Talk-transit] Public transport validator+generator from Maps.Me

2019-06-12 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 11-06-19 18:13, Alexey Zakharenkov via Talk-transit wrote: Hi, Noémie, Mateusz and others! I’ve extracted all the generated error messages from our subway validator source and list them below with some comments. You’ll see that most of them concern topology of a transport network which

Re: [Talk-transit] Public transport validator+generator from Maps.Me

2019-06-12 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 11-06-19 18:13, Alexey Zakharenkov via Talk-transit wrote: Hi, Noémie, Mateusz and others! I’ve extracted all the generated error messages from our subway validator source and list them below with some comments. You’ll see that most of them concern topology of a transport network which

Re: [Talk-transit] Public transport validator+generator from Maps.Me

2019-06-12 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 11-06-19 18:13, Alexey Zakharenkov via Talk-transit wrote: Thank you for the list! There are a few I have questions about, either about your validator or about the general use of the transit tags. *) "Missing station= on a feature". Requires that railway=station/halt object be tagged

Re: [Talk-transit] Public transport validator+generator from Maps.Me

2019-05-29 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 29-05-19 17:35, Alexey Zakharenkov via Talk-transit wrote: Hello everybody! I'm a part of team who worries about public transport status in OSM database, especially rapid transit transport. I want to represent a public transport validator+generator that somebody might find a useful

Re: [Talk-transit] "more then one platform in one location"

2019-05-19 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
> On Mon, 13 May 2019 at 14:44, Dave F via Talk-transit > mailto:talk-transit@openstreetmap.org>> > wrote: > > Hi > > On the railway=platform wiki page there's a comment: > > "If there are more then one platform in one location, a relation > could be used to "bind" them together.

Re: [Talk-transit] Old Railways

2019-05-19 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 18-05-19 17:40, Tim Saunders wrote: I suspect I am a lone voice but I don't agree.  The thing that differentiates railways from a lot of historical features is they form a network, some if which is still an operating railway and a lot of which is still visible in the ground.  Having the

Re: [Talk-transit] Ideas for a simplified public transportation scheme

2019-05-13 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 13-05-19 00:14, Jo wrote: I like to keep things simple, the best way to accomplish that, is by having a single object for each stop that holds all the details for its "lifetime". That's why I don't like the idea of 'upgrading from a node to a way/area or a relation. I don't agree with you

Re: [Talk-transit] Old railways

2019-05-13 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 13-05-19 01:33, Mike N wrote: On 5/12/2019 1:45 PM, Tijmen Stam wrote: Btw, do you know of a way to copy data from one layer in JOSM to another, while keeping it at the exact same position? Edit / Paste at Source Position (CTRL+ALT+V). Thank you (and John Whelan) I still wish

Re: [Talk-transit] Ideas for a simplified public transportation scheme

2019-05-12 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 09-05-19 23:03, Markus wrote: On Tue, 7 May 2019 at 21:15, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: 7c. From what I'm understand, this bus stop node does not have to be connected to a pedestrian highway either, with routers presumably jumping from the nearest highway? Yes, this is what OsmAnd does. 8.

Re: [Talk-transit] Old railways

2019-05-12 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 12-05-19 17:48, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: On Sun, 12 May 2019 at 07:54, Tijmen Stam wrote: In my environment, some people are adding old ("razed" railways to openstreetmak, of which no trace is visible in the field. It concerns both old railways which have been gone since 1933,

[Talk-transit] Old railways

2019-05-12 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
Hello, In my environment, some people are adding old ("razed" railways to openstreetmak, of which no trace is visible in the field. It concerns both old railways which have been gone since 1933, e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/592259029 (Note that this piece still is somewhat visible,

[Talk-transit] Rendering for public_transport=platform cancelled?

2019-05-09 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
example of a deadlock. IIVQ/Tijmen Stam ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit

Re: [Talk-transit] Ideas for a simplified public transportation scheme

2019-05-08 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 06-05-19 19:29, Stephen Sprunk wrote: On 2019-04-30 06:06, Dave F via Talk-transit wrote: On 29/04/2019 16:22, Stephen Sprunk wrote: Stop areas are supposed to link stop positions to platforms, so a router knows which platform you need to take a route that only stops on a particular

Re: [Talk-transit] Ideas for a simplified public transportation scheme

2019-05-08 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 28-04-19 16:27, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 at 10:04, Markus wrote: Tram stops often have platforms (and bus stops sometimes too). For such stops, two PTv1 elements are necessary because railway=tram_stop can't be used on the same area (or way) as railway=platform (they

Re: [Talk-transit] Ideas for a simplified public transportation scheme

2019-05-08 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 28-04-19 16:02, Markus wrote: On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 at 14:30, Snusmumriken wrote: Somehow I think that it is too late to define one schema that would rule the world. Too much has already been mapped for it to be redone. But I might be wrong. I also share your observation that PTv2 is way too

Re: [Talk-transit] Line colour, text colour and background colour

2019-05-06 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 29-04-19 16:58, Stephen Sprunk wrote: The route and route_master relations have a documented "colour" key that can be used.  However, that seems to be intended for the line itself, and I'm not aware of any renderer that uses it.  If they did, they'd probably use it for the label background

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Uithoorn

2016-08-18 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 25-07-16 16:58, Ante Wessels wrote: Sebastiaan Couwenberg writes: On 07/25/2016 01:32 PM, Ante Wessels wrote: Ik reed laatst het dorpje binnen waar ik geboren ben, Uithoorn, en merkte dat de rondweg waar tientallen jaren over gepraat is warempel aangelegd is (N201+). Hij staat als

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Verplaatsen bushaltes/routes Amstelstation

2016-06-08 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
morgenavond om 20u? Jo Op 8 juni 2016 22:24 schreef Tijmen Stam <mailingli...@iivq.net <mailto:mailingli...@iivq.net>>: Jo, Jij hebt destijds een hangout gedaan om het een en ander uit te leggen over OV-lijnen bewerken, waar ik bij was. Ik was toen heel nieuw in het OSM

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Verplaatsen bushaltes/routes Amstelstation

2016-06-08 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
Jo, Jij hebt destijds een hangout gedaan om het een en ander uit te leggen over OV-lijnen bewerken, waar ik bij was. Ik was toen heel nieuw in het OSM-OV-gebeuren. Worden hangouts ook opgeslagen en kan je ze later nog terugzien? Met vriendelijke groet, Tijmen On 04-06-16 14:18, Jo wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Luchtfoto's 2014 CycloMedia

2016-02-05 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
Ik heb net de URL binnengekregen. Ik moet eerlijk gezegd ook zeggen dat de kwaliteit me wat tegenviel. Vaak een stuk minder goed dan Google en, omdat Google net een update heeft gedaan, minder actueel. De beeldkwaliteit is in delen van het land zelfs minder dan de Bing-WMS die we mogen

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] BAG vs On-The-Ground (Was: Groenlandsekade/Groenlandse Kade, Vinkeveen)

2015-06-02 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
. Tijmen On 01-06-15 21:23, Tijmen Stam wrote: On 01-06-15 08:51, Christ van Willegen wrote: 2015-05-31 14:32 GMT+02:00 Gert-Jan van der Weijden gee...@dds.nl: De theorie: In de traditie van René Magritte (Ceci n'est pas une pipe) en Alfred Korzybski (The map is not the territory) kun je redeneren

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] BAG vs On-The-Ground (Was: Groenlandsekade/Groenlandse Kade, Vinkeveen)

2015-06-01 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 01-06-15 08:51, Christ van Willegen wrote: 2015-05-31 14:32 GMT+02:00 Gert-Jan van der Weijden gee...@dds.nl: De theorie: In de traditie van René Magritte (Ceci n'est pas une pipe) en Alfred Korzybski (The map is not the territory) kun je redeneren dat de tekst op een straatnaambord niet de

[OSM-talk-nl] Groenlandsekade/Groenlandse Kade, Vinkeveen

2015-05-29 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
Hallo, 2 vragen over de Groenlandse[ K|k]ade in Vinkeveen. 1. Ik heb vaak gelezen Map what's on the ground. Hoe ga je om met een straat die 3 straatnaambordjes heeft, 2x Groenlandse Kade (beiden redelijk nieuw), 1x Groenlandsekade (ouder), maar de BAG-viewer geeft wel aan Groenlandsekade? De

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Sluiskiltunnel geopend.

2015-05-21 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 20-05-15 22:24, Lennard voor den Dag wrote: Op 20 mei 2015 21:13 schreef Tijmen Stam mailingli...@iivq.net: De op- en afritten van de Sluiskiltunnel staan nog als under construction, terwijl deze gisteren geopend is. Kan iemand met lokale kennis eens kijken of deze ongeveer goed liggen en

[OSM-talk-nl] Sluiskiltunnel geopend.

2015-05-20 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
De op- en afritten van de Sluiskiltunnel staan nog als under construction, terwijl deze gisteren geopend is. Kan iemand met lokale kennis eens kijken of deze ongeveer goed liggen en dan de construction-tags verwijderen? Zie http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/47806#map=16/51.2959/3.8121 en

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Chipknip tags

2015-02-27 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 02/27/2015 09:24 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: De Chipknip is sinds 1 januari niet meer operationeel. Ik denk dat de oplaadpunten nu zo'n beetje overal ook wel weggehaald zijn, in ieder geval zullen ze niet meer operationeel zijn. Volgens Taginfo [1] zijn er nog 292 instances can chipknip in OSM.

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] URL of Website

2015-01-08 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 01/08/2015 02:00 PM, St Niklaas wrote: Ronald, Om het moeilijker te maken https://www. komt ook voor. Mechanisch lijkt mij dat dan aardig lastig, ik voer ze zelf al wel in na een blik op de site geworpen te hebben. Theoretisch zeker een punt, praktisch valt het wel mee. Elke site voor

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] URL of Website

2015-01-08 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 01/08/2015 02:18 PM, St Niklaas wrote: Tijmen, Wat is een site voor consumenten ? Gelieerd aan winkels of handelsmaatschappijen, maar zelfs de overheid gebruikt al https ! Sommige wel andere niet, maar ook de doorschakeling http(s) werkt. Maar het is theoretisch niet waterdicht. Bv

[OSM-talk-nl] Snelheid snelwegen

2015-01-08 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
Hoi, Hoe gaan we in Nederland om met snelwegen waar een variabele snelheid geldt? Bijvoorbeeld op de A1 tussen Hoevelaken en de A30 richting Enschede, of op de IJsselbrug. Hier is een spitsstrook, en staan snelheidsborden die kunnen wijzigen (zichtbaar aan de vertikale streepjes), en de

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Maximum snelheid N270

2014-12-02 Per discussione Tijmen Stam
On 11/30/2014 03:21 PM, Pander OpenTaal wrote: On 11/13/2014 06:29 PM, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2014-11-13 17:11, Pander OpenTaal wrote: Over Nuenen gesproken, de weg van Venray naar Nuenen heeft afwijkende maximale snelheid in werkelijkheid t.o.v. wat OsmAnd meldt. Mocht iemand dat willen