On 23 June 2011 21:53, Robert Scott li...@humanleg.org.uk wrote:
On Thursday 23 June 2011, John Smith wrote:
The data is rendered from FOSM data.
Which is 100% sourced from OpenStreetMap data.
I'm told there is at least 500 changesets not from OSM
On 23 June 2011 21:53, Robert Scott li...@humanleg.org.uk wrote:
On Thursday 23 June 2011, John Smith wrote:
The data is rendered from FOSM data.
Which is 100% sourced from OpenStreetMap data.
I find this ironic, if not out right amusing, OSM-F tries to hide any
kind of attribution, yet you
On 23 June 2011 22:20, Graham Stewart (GrahamS) gra...@dalmuti.net wrote:
But I do feel slightly uncomfortable that my edits, which I've now agreed
should be licensed under ODbL, can currently be used by fosm to build a
CC-by-SA competitor project which aims to divide our community.
Erm how is
On 24 June 2011 01:02, Robert Scott li...@humanleg.org.uk wrote:
Nearly all of the data was generated by OpenStreetMap contributors under the
OpenStreetMap flag, so I think the attribution should be mostly to
OpenStreetMap.
For starters you are confusing OSM contributors with OSM-F who
On 24 June 2011 01:27, Robert Scott li...@humanleg.org.uk wrote:
So - what, you're saying we should be doing the whole
list-ten-thousand-names-in-the-corner thing? I don't understand - what's your
point?
My point is, why should other sites be forced into attribution even
OSM-F isn't willing
On 24 June 2011 01:41, Robert Scott li...@humanleg.org.uk wrote:
So because people have decided to start a voluntary project, they have to be
answerable to absolutely everybody... everywhere... ever? No matter how
unreasonable or logically warped they are (no names mentioned)? Everyone gets
On 24 June 2011 01:49, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
2011-06-23 John Smith:
Which is derived from OpenStreetMap data. Therefore, the tiles are
ultimately derived from OpenStreetMap data, too. Quoting CC BY-SA 2.0:
As you said yourself above it's not reasonable to expect a lengthy
On 24 June 2011 02:00, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
There are two plausible legal interpretations:
- the original author is OpenStreetMap
- the original author are a lot of individuals
You left off companies that have donated data.
No matter which interpretation you choose, your
On 24 June 2011 02:36, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
1. Signing your rights away is not necessarily a bad thing. (The FSF
asks you to do exactly that when contributing to GNU software
projects, for good reasons, though others may rightfully disagree.)
2. Anyway, the OSM CT does
On 24 June 2011 04:14, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
I pointed this out once and the response was that osm.org doesnt need
attribution because there is a logo in the top-left corner.
I guess the same logic could be applied here, since the name
'OpenStreetMap' is on the fosm.org
On 24 June 2011 04:43, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote:
That said, I'm happy about FOSM, if I ever become a resident of the US and
that legal opinion on this matter still holds up, I might pull its data and
provide it under PD myself.
Unlikely, maps were the first thing to be protected
On 24 June 2011 07:39, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote:
Well, it has been stated multiple times that it was a lawyer opinion that
Francis Davey, who also claims to be a lawyer, gave an opposite opinion.
CC-BY-SA didn't apply to our data, and factual databases aren't protected by
Which is a
On 24 June 2011 08:49, Julio Costa Zambelli
julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote:
On 23 June 2011 16:52, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote:
It's much closer to what's been
happening in the Arab States this year:
There are at least two big difference between revolutions in the Maghreb and
Arab
On 24 June 2011 14:32, Julio Costa Zambelli
julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote:
On 23 June 2011 23:58, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
So you quote one line and fail to point out what falsities I'm making.
So that is what my message was all about? Thanks for clarifying it to me
On 23 June 2011 02:30, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote:
I appreciate your appeal. In looking through the data it appears a
lot of it has sense been field server. Since the original mapper
traced the data from imagery. It seems kind of silly for that to
cause the data to be deleted.
On 23 June 2011 02:30, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote:
I appreciate your appeal. In looking through the data it appears a
lot of it has sense been field server. Since the original mapper
traced the data from imagery. It seems kind of silly for that to
cause the data to be deleted.
To
On 23 June 2011 03:37, Jaakko Helleranta.com jaa...@helleranta.com wrote:
Well, in the case of Haiti this is exactly what happened a lot -- with
Google's permission, though.
Haiti is one small area, most of the time people that copy from google
don't have permission.
And having said that I
On 21 June 2011 23:31, Stephen Gower socks-openstreetmap@earth.li wrote:
[Sorry to quote so much context - please do scroll down!)
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:16:03AM +0100, Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote:
I think the question being asked arises from the following
hypothetical chain of
On 19 June 2011 19:55, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
I just wanted to make clear that our current data
is submitted under CC-BY-SA (at least our community members declares so)
but there is absolutely no prove that the data submitted
can be CC-BY-SA.
On 19 June 2011 20:16, Robert Whittaker (OSM)
robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com wrote:
Thinking of the example someone gave or the copyright in sound
recordings being separate from the copyright in the music / lyrics,
I'm guessing the answer is some sort of combination of 2 and 3; along
the lines
On 19 June 2011 20:24, Robert Whittaker (OSM)
robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18 June 2011 11:37, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18 June 2011 20:35, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
Not sure of you point, since cc-by-sa can't be magically turned into
ODBL
On 19 June 2011 20:31, Robert Whittaker (OSM)
robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com wrote:
While person C could indeed get access to the original data (which
must be offered by B), in the hypothetical situation I envisaged, they
choose not to do so. They obtain the produced work under PD/CC0 or
CC-By
On 19 June 2011 23:20, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote:
I think what Robert is trying to say is that you only have to check
for compatibility with the current license. But the current license
is CC-By-SA, so CC-By-SA data would be okay.
Since things seem to be going head first
I forgot to ask, do SVG files constitute a produced work?
The kind OSM.org currently outputs as SVG maps.
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On 20 June 2011 00:53, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote:
On 19 June 2011 12:31, John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
yet ODBL allows people to output PD tiles,
which don't offer attribution.
The ODbL requires attribution of the database.
The database can contain other attribution.
On 20 June 2011 00:55, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
If however on the other hand if someone created an SVG file specially
for the purpose of extracted OSM data and tags, it would be extremely
difficult for them to argue that is a produced work and not a
database.
That's
For the longest time it was claimed ODBL would better protect data
than CC-by-SA in some jurisdictions, with the US being one of those.
However the opposite seems true, since the above claim was based on
the premise that creating maps wasn't a creative enterprise.
The ODBL doesn't place a limit
On 19 June 2011 19:32, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote:
Some of these boundaries have been edited to include highway=* and
waterway=* tags (mainly in areas with (at the time) no good imagery). How
easy is it to get a list of these ways? Now that better imagery is
available, now would
Forgot to mention that SVG files are most likely produced works, even
those they aren't raster images, so converting to SVG and then back to
map data would potentially be pretty trivial.
In other words CC-by-SA protects data better than ODBL.
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On 20 June 2011 00:55, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
If however on the other hand if someone created an SVG file specially
for the purpose of extracted OSM data and tags, it would be extremely
difficult for them to argue that is a produced work and not a
database.
That's
What does it matter since I'm never going to agree to the CT...
On 20 June 2011 02:11, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
JohnSmith your four changesets today are missing descriptive
changeset comments.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/JohnSmith/edits
The barrier here
On 20 June 2011 03:12, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
I am sure theortical (and legally risky) loopholes could be found for
example as you describe above. We could have contructed painfully
A simple admission that the previous email is a valid argument would
have sufficed
We
On 20 June 2011 14:49, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote:
Maybe Richard should have asked him privately first - I was mainly
responding to John's attitude that it didn't matter.
Well, what does it matter now that they're going to start deleting non-CT data?
Obviously there had to be
On 18 June 2011 19:22, Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com wrote:
Tiles are clearly *maps* and so protected as artistic works under
article 2(1) of the Berne Convention and therefore (one hopes) in
every country which is a signatory to Berne which includes the US and
the EU. What you can do with
On 18 June 2011 19:48, Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/6/18 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
Well one assumption I'm making is that everyone is adhering to the
license restrictions placed on them, perhaps this would be easiler
with a solid example.
OSM-F continues
On 18 June 2011 20:26, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
Is this similar?:
Andy, in Australia, contributes CC-By or CC-By-SA data to CC-By-SA
OpenStreetMap. Perhaps the data is Australian boundaries or
something.
Betty, in UK, creates CC-By-SA tiles that include that boundary data.
On 18 June 2011 20:35, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18 June 2011 20:26, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
Is this similar?:
Andy, in Australia, contributes CC-By or CC-By-SA data to CC-By-SA
OpenStreetMap. Perhaps the data is Australian boundaries or
something.
Betty
On 19 June 2011 03:40, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
What if Betty changes country and decides to reside in France -before-
publicating
her tiles on a server located in the Bahama's and claiming CC0
;)
It's silly because some people injected a
On 18 June 2011 00:06, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
On 06/17/11 11:18, John Smith wrote:
Only if the amount of data traced is not substantial.
CC-by-SA makes no such distinction, it's either cc-by-sa or it's not
cc-by-sa, so which license can tiles be put under?
Sorry, I
On 18 June 2011 00:54, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:44 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 18 June 2011 00:40, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
I am not trying to apply patents to OSM. I am trying to use the example of
patents
On 18 June 2011 01:10, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:
Because you want to sell/offer s service in the EU, enter one of the
countries and numerous other reasons. As long as you don't make the derived
database available or publish the contents in some form -in- the EU you are
not in trouble,
On 18 June 2011 05:25, davespod osmli...@dellams.fastmail.fm wrote:
In a similar vein, I think OSMF and any other publisher of OSM-derived map
tiles under CC-by-SA would be well advised to be explicit about what it is
they are licensing under CC-by-SA. In other words, they should follow the
On 17 June 2011 18:38, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote:
Data from an ODbL database may however be used to create a BY-SA
Produced Work.
So this means produced works can be traced into a cc-by-sa data set then?
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On 18 June 2011 00:30, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
On 06/17/11 16:20, John Smith wrote:
Patents don't apply here
I am trying to make a general point about the scope of CC licenses, to which
the patents example is relevant.
Do you or do you not agree, that if a picture
On 18 June 2011 00:32, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote:
On 06/17/11 16:06, John Smith wrote:
So once again I'm met with silence and can only assume that produced
works licensed under cc-by or cc-by-sa can be derived from,
Do read the discussions I had with odc-discuss when someone asked
On 18 June 2011 00:40, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
I am not trying to apply patents to OSM. I am trying to use the example of
patents to prove to you that your reasoning either something is CC-BY-SA or
it isn't is, in this simplicity, invalid; that there may well exist
limitations
On 18 June 2011 00:50, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:
Am 17.06.2011 16:39, schrieb andrzej zaborowski:
...
2. What happens if a person in country A with database rights
publishes a tileset and licenses it under CC-By-SA to a person in
country B without database rights? The second
On 18 June 2011 01:18, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote:
Hi Frederik,
Yes I agree that the arm chair mapping isn't the best method of
collection. Though in some areas it will be difficult to ever have
mappers on the ground without imagery. The cost of a GPS is
prohibitive in many
On 18 June 2011 01:46, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me try copyright-only examples.
I can take up the full text of all of the works of William
Shakespeare, compile it into a book with annotations, and release the
book under CC-BY-SA. Now since the original text by
On 18 June 2011 02:26, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think you're going to get clear answers about these specific
cases. It will take a court decision to provide precedent rulings on
such things.
Well the copyright side of things seems pretty simple, especially if
people
On 18 June 2011 02:40, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote:
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:07 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
Then you have a whole other argument over what constitutes a produced
work and so on.
It's a novel concept, to be sure. but if you want to understand
On 17 June 2011 18:38, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:42 AM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
That is the reason why very little effort has been expended mapping
Australia lately, until we know what skeleton of data we'll have left to
work with
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/2501/sancturymap.png
Seems to look like an OSM map to me, I don't have access to all
credits, so no idea if it was credited or not..
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On 16 June 2011 20:37, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
JohnSmitty wrote:
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/2501/sancturymap.png
Seems to look like an OSM map to me, I don't have access to all
credits, so no idea if it was credited or not..
I'm pretty sure that's Google Maps in
On 17 June 2011 13:19, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
There are numerous programs that exist which show the density of mapping
in certain areas. Maybe it would be useful to find the more heavily
mapped areas that dont have coverage?
That's making assumptions that larger towns are
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I'm speaking personally and there are no guarantees here but I'd like
to get input on what areas you would like
On 16 June 2011 01:47, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
It's only as the deadline draws near that those in favour of the change are
trying to put the blame on the mappers for there potentially being a
conflict. I find this irritating.
No, this isn't a new thing, this has pretty much
On 16 June 2011 04:54, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
As usual, the majority is right, and the minority (both 20%'s!) are
wrong. The question that we need to worry about is not the legal terms
of the license, but instead: will changing the license hurt the
community more than leaving it
On 16 June 2011 15:01, Gary Gallagher g.null.dev...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for all the comments, I think I'll hold off. It does seem
unfortunate that there is no basic work-flow to convert a boundary into
a relation containing the ways that make it up. From what you've said
Nick merging nodes
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheBoyGeniusReport/~3/8nAQktIAPQk/
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As per the implementation plan [1],
On 15 June 2011 12:16, Gary Gallagher g.null.dev...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been working on my suburb (Brunswick East), and keep coming across
tangled messes of ways caused by the boundary data effectively floating
above different ways. Roads are being connected to the boundary instead
of the
On 13 June 2011 17:07, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
Jochen,
I see attribution on my browser (bottom left corner). Rendering is, I think
standard mapnik, looks ok to me.
Andrew E, did you try my link and zoom over to Korea. I think you'll find
all the OSM data there looking
On 13 June 2011 18:01, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote:
If I recall correctly, the Mapnik “Openstreetmap Mode” requires Silverlight,
so the link below might show you a different view if you don’t have it
installed. Or perhaps I’m thinking of the Map App, if that is different?
I'd forgotten
On 12 June 2011 19:29, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm much more worried about the effects of a fork. If we spend time
updating a number of forks, it will detract from time that we could
have spent mapping.
I was in that frame of thinking 3-6 months ago, but unless something
radical
Did anyone try to mark tiles as dirty, I've done this in the past and
it seems to re-render properly, no idea why it occurs or why marking
it as dirty fixes things, seems to be inconsistent so might be a
mapnik bug.
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Earlier this week 4000 academic books were released for free,
apparently there is quite a lot of GIS books in the mix:
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/slashgeo/~3/j318KMk-yGU/Hundreds-Free-Geospatial-PDF-Books-National-Academies-Press
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On 5 June 2011 21:40, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
Nick Hocking wrote:
The only way, I see, out of this mess is for me to map a new set of
residential roads, using my actual GPS tracks, alongside the nearmapped
ones, make then properly routable, and maybe put a layer tag on
On 5 June 2011 22:35, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
John Smith wrote:
He is yet to back up his claims about people using the data
I don't think it makes a difference. If I have one set of data with a
questionable copyright situation and no street names, and another set
On 5 June 2011 22:48, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Where the claim was made has no relevance for my assessment that it does not
make a difference.
As I said, you tried so hard to word thing to reduce the change of an
edit war and now you are cheering some along to do the exact
On 26 May 2011 18:53, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com wrote:
Unless you operate to peculiar safety standards, there'll probably be
a stop sign on the track some way either side of the former
crossing(probably set for the stopping distance of the heaviest train
operating at
On 27 May 2011 03:51, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:
Hi all,
Consider the following application scheme:
* a twitter user sends a geo-located tweet containing a specified
hashtag, say #addosm and key-value pairs like amenity:pub;name:Red
Devil;smoking:yes
* a twitter scraper picks up
On 27 May 2011 04:19, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:
Totally anonymous edits existed once in OSM, until 2007. See the first
link in my original message (mysteriously not referred to in the
message body..hm). They were abandoned for different reasons I
believe, the wiki page gives some
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Fyi
CWmike writes As the 2010 U.S. census results arrived, Los Angeles
County's politicians started ramping up for redistricting — the
once-a-decade, computing-intensive, often contentious process of
geographically carving up the populace into discrete parcels of
voters. In the past, such decisions
On 26 May 2011 05:10, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
HI all,
What should be done with a level_crossing, when trains may cross no longer?
The junction was a level_crossing, but has been repaved and
re-sculpted. The rails are now covered by 0.3 - 0.4 m of asphalt
which appears to
There is Bing imagery covering Kempsey, but a distinct lack of
mapping, or was before I started adding them, but still plenty to do.
I mentioned Tamworth a few weeks ago and within a day or so it had
been mapped out extensively from Bing imagery.
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small enough you can even do it in a virtual machine, and a vmware
image will be published at some point so all you need to do is
download, run and tell it
An anonymous reader writes So you have a RC model aircraft snapping
digital photos from the air, but how do you organize them all? This
cheap cloud service from a European research giant will upload your
photos and automatically convert them into 3D models you can navigate
like a video game. And
On 21 May 2011 16:08, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote:
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 May 2011 13:52, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
Forums (IMO) are much superior to mailing lists for one simple reason
If the forum software is a threaded one
On 21 May 2011 16:11, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
If people want to use a forum like interface, gmane.org does that I believe.
Actually gmane.org does a few different options, include a blog like
interface...
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.region.au
On 21 May 2011 13:52, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
Forums (IMO) are much superior to mailing lists for one simple reason
If the forum software is a threaded one then it is really easy to avoid
reading any drivel from the trolls. You just ignore the whole thread if the
troll
On 18 May 2011 22:56, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
Grant has absolutely no respect for user wishes, he's defaced my own
wiki page, which I can no longer edit, after I left a note asking
people not to edit my wiki page.
What bollocks. I added a notice to the *discussion
On 18 May 2011 23:12, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
On 18 May 2011 14:02, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18 May 2011 22:56, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
Grant has absolutely no respect for user wishes, he's defaced my own
wiki page, which I
It seems if you are on the wining side of an argument you end up
blocked, so I'm most likely going to start an aussie wiki and not care
about the official wiki
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Sugar coat it all you want, but what action did you take against
anyone else involved?
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On 18 May 2011 06:38, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
Set of rules made by one group, complaints handled by same group,
prosecution handled by same group, judgement made by same group,
punishment handled by same group.
Grant has absolutely no respect for user wishes, he's defaced my
On 13 May 2011 15:38, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:24 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
That's before you consider the resolution, it's so high that railway
lines and switching tracks are mapped so accurately people were
suggesting to those
On 9 May 2011 01:28, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
These current edits are of value to OSM, newly developed roads in
developing suburbs ('some of which already have people living on them').
How can newly developed roads be mapped from Bing?
On 8 May 2011 17:47, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5 May 2011 10:33, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 21:22 +1000, Nick Hocking wrote:
Unfortunately this has meant that Canberra OSM data is now badly out
of date. I have recently heard
On 5 May 2011 10:33, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 21:22 +1000, Nick Hocking wrote:
Unfortunately this has meant that Canberra OSM data is now badly out
of date. I have recently heard of a situation where up-to-date
Canberra data could have been *extremely*
On 8 May 2011 21:41, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
As usual - non trolls are welcome to let me know if I've missed anything (or
made some mistakes).
So people asking difficult, but honest questions are labelled trolls
so you don't have to answer?
All this looks like is vandalism
The south bank of the main stream of the Murray River is the NSW/Vic
border, but does anyone know where the NSW border lies with respect
the MacIntyre River?
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On 9 May 2011 13:39, 4x4falcon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
I'd say the centre of the main channel as the only sign I've ever seen there
is half way across a bridge.
The bridge at Texas has the sign on the southern side of the bridge,
but the 'Welcome to Qld/NSW' sign is on the northern side.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/08/tom_tom_oz_data_to_cops/
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On 6 May 2011 22:16, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
The alternative would be to continue using CC-BY-SA in the face of
objections, and continue to misleading users about the effectiveness of the
license.
Still this sad tired old line, please come up with new FUD to keep
things
On 6 May 2011 15:25, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
has no clothes, and there are no little kids around to say Gee, this
relicensing thing ... maybe it's not such a good idea?
Plenty of people have been pointing this out, but those that should be
listening aren't and as a result OSM has
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From: Alister Hood alister.h...@synergine.com
Date: 5 May 2011 11:58
Subject: [Aust-NZ] LINZ survey
To: OSGeo NZ/AU aust...@lists.osgeo.org, nzopen...@googlegroups.com
Hi everyone,
First, apologies if you get this twice because you’re on both lists.
I
It's such a shame that your high regard for diverse opinions only seem
to matter if they match yours.
On 5/4/11, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4 May 2011 20:40, Tim Challis tim.chal...@gmail.com wrote:
Sarcasm aside. I am quite happy to go along with Liz' pronunciations to
date.
On 2 May 2011 15:56, Gregor Horvath gre...@ediwo.com wrote:
Hello,
I could not find a wiki page nor relevant data on how
to tag a touristic relevant road.
There is the scenic=yes tag, but maybe only a part of the touristic
road is scenic but the whole road (relation) may be of touristic
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