Re: [Talk-us] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/14 Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com Since I sent out the query to this list I've been mulling over setting adds:street=CampgroundName and addr:housenumber=SiteNumber on each of those. addr:street shouldn't be used if there is not a street with the name. Better use addr:place or

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/14 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com The OSM node could even link to a wiki page where the neighborhood can be described in all its richness and complexity. you could do this with wikipedia links. My usecase would be to enter an address in a search field and get information about the

Re: [Talk-us] Black Forest Fire Update

2013-06-14 Thread Murry McEntire
The Bing images for the area appear to be from 2007 . (I've found a house mid-construction in the Bing images that was finished in 2007). So use caution before changing what someone else has entered based solely on what you see in Bing. It is unlikely many structures disappeared between 2007 and

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-14 Thread Tod Fitch
Looks like the proposed way of marking campsites within a campground is described at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site#Tagging_of_lots which involves setting nodes at the individual sites tagged with camp_site=lot and lot:number=* I see only 61 instances

Re: [Talk-us] Parking rendering

2013-06-14 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Nathan Mills nat...@nwacg.net wrote: (I switched to talk-us for this reply because it doesn't touch on import issues) I don't think it's so much a bug in the stylesheet as much as a bug in the world we're trying to map. Many cities simply have excessive

Re: [Talk-us] Parking rendering

2013-06-14 Thread Martijn van Exel
I agree this should ideally be addressed at the data level. If all parking nodes had some capacity / access information, the renderer could prioritize for larger public parking when zooming out, for example. And entering every strip of street parking spots as parking in OSM does not make sense to

Re: [Talk-us] Parking rendering

2013-06-14 Thread Steven Johnson
To amplify what Serge said about Washington, no distinction was made for the behind-the-house, 1-2 vehicle private space versus large public lots. So if you were to look at the WashDC map, you'd be misled into thinking there is parking everywhere! I rather like the suggestion of addressing it

Re: [Talk-us] Parking rendering

2013-06-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/14 Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com To amplify what Serge said about Washington, no distinction was made for the behind-the-house, 1-2 vehicle private space versus large public lots. So if you were to look at the WashDC map, you'd be misled into thinking there is parking everywhere!

Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] Black Forest Fire Update

2013-06-14 Thread Russell Deffner
For areas inside what you can assume is private property, landuse=forest is what I typically use. 'Managed Forest'? Maybe needs to be a little more. From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 2:27 AM To: 'OSM US Talk' Cc: 'hot' Subject: Re: [HOT] [Talk-us] Black

Re: [Talk-us] Parking rendering

2013-06-14 Thread John F. Eldredge
Makes sense to me. Private parking and parking accessible to the public should certainly be tagged and rendered differently. I would not be surprised if some people, trying to use an OSM map to find a place to park, and instead being directed again and again to parking that turned out to be

[Talk-us] on the horizon

2013-06-14 Thread alyssa wright
Hi all, At our monthly geoNYC meetup, we have a section where we announce upcoming events im the geo space. If there are any conferences, hangouts, trainings, milestones, etc that you would like us to share with this audience, please let me know in the next couple of days. Thanks! Alyssa.

Re: [Talk-us] Black Forest Fire Update

2013-06-14 Thread Murry McEntire
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:26 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: What do you think we should do with what I would normally tag natural=wood? There’s plenty of woods in the residential areas that aren’t mapped, but I’m not sure how to handle them. I was hoping long time users and

Re: [Talk-us] Black Forest Fire Update

2013-06-14 Thread Russell Deffner
Just for the record, I don't disagree with Murry's suggestion and he and I have talked about this face-to-face. And I think you'd be the most local expert on this one, please feel free to change my tags. Thanks! From: Murry McEntire [mailto:murry.mcent...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June

Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] Black Forest Fire Update

2013-06-14 Thread Harry Wood
Here's a wiki page for coordination. Please feel free to edit http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Black_Forest_Fire_2013 Eugghh! The landuse data around here is a mess. Government data import I presume On the plus side. There's plenty to get stuck in and work on. I recommend JOSM for

Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] Black Forest Fire Update

2013-06-14 Thread Russell Deffner
Thank you Harry, no - sorry - the landuse was mainly me; afterward I can explain why it's beneficial to mash landuse on the map for response purposes. Yes, it will need cleaned up and Murry and others are making good progress. =Russ From: Harry Wood [mailto:m...@harrywood.co.uk] Sent:

Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] Black Forest Fire Update

2013-06-14 Thread Paul Norman
To clarify, my question was not around what tags to use for the areas with trees, it was on how to handle the fact that the forest in many cases is presumably burnt out. If it weren't for the fire I'd be tracing a lot of natural=wood in the region. -Original Message- From: Tom Taylor

Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] Black Forest Fire Update

2013-06-14 Thread Russell Deffner
Sorry, again my take is to go ahead and trace - a little background, I would like to be able to suggest to fire/all emergency services that OSM is/can be the best 'situational awareness' tool/map. So although we will be creating more work to 'fix' - when I started it was a blank white area with

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-14 Thread Paul Johnson
Again, I'm still not hearing a suggestion that would keep this valuable information in OSM, or a compelling reason not to keep it. We do map proposed routes, we don't map for the renderer. It still sounds like the core issue is some proposals are mapped more specifically than they are on paper.

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-14 Thread alyssa wright
Don't knock the unicorn viewing sites. They are everywhere. On Jun 14, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.org wrote: Please for the love of god, I see no one here in favor of it but you. They are imaginary, let's delete them and move on. They have no more place in OSM

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-14 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
Well then, we can use them to hide the parking lot symbols in DC. d. On Jun 14, 2013, at 15:11, alyssa wright alyssapwri...@gmail.com wrote: Don't knock the unicorn viewing sites. They are everywhere. On Jun 14, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.org wrote: Please for

[Talk-us] Cleaning up California FMMP residential

2013-06-14 Thread Paul Norman
I've been doing some California landuse and have come across a lot of landuse=residential imported from FMMP which is clearly wrong. The landuse=residential covers entire cities, including commercial, industrial, retail, parks, schools, golf courses, airports, and pretty much anything within city

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-14 Thread Mike N
On 6/14/2013 5:43 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: We do map proposed routes, we don't map for the renderer. earlier In which I would really prefer this be addressed as a rendering issue. I believe that's the reasonable compromise, to highlight a margin-of-error area defined by another tag

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-14 Thread Paul Johnson
This would be an acceptable compromise. On Jun 14, 2013 6:00 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 6/14/2013 5:43 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: We do map proposed routes, we don't map for the renderer. earlier In which I would really prefer this be addressed as a rendering issue. I believe

Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] Black Forest Fire Update

2013-06-14 Thread stevea
I tag landuse=forest on public and private timber production polygons. This includes national forests, yes. It also includes at least one state demonstration forest I am aware of near me. I tag landuse=wood on virgin forest as well as second-growth forests or visually woody land. I do so