Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-11 Thread KerryIrons
' Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA I think Kerry's concern is about proposed routes being in the OSM db (and renders) when no such proposed routes exist. Taking a line from wikipedia (which I realize is tricky business), we shouldn't be doing original research

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-11 Thread Alex Barth
. This is the kind of communication and coordination we are seeking. Kerry -Original Message- From: Greg Troxel [mailto:g...@ir.bbn.com] Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:32 PM To: KerryIrons Cc: 'OpenStreetMap talk-us list' Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-11 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2013-03-08 12:48 PM, KerryIrons wrote: All, I am heavily involved in the development of US Bicycle Routes (see www.adventurecycling.org/usbrs) and it has come to my attention that OpenStreetMap/OpenCycleMap have proposed maps for US Bicycle Routes 21, 25, 80, and 84 in KY, TN, AL, MS, and

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-11 Thread KerryIrons
To: KerryIrons Cc: Greg Troxel; OpenStreetMap talk-us list Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA This is a concern about there being no active project to develop a route but having a route showing on OSM/OCM. If that's the situation it seems we have a clear cut case at hand

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-11 Thread Paul Johnson
of collaboration that will be productive for all concerned. Kerry -Original Message- From: Alex Barth [mailto:a...@mapbox.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 8:12 AM To: KerryIrons Cc: Greg Troxel; OpenStreetMap talk-us list Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-11 Thread KerryIrons
...@plane.gmane.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA I can't speak to the states you've listed, but I've helped to map the proposed USBR 50 in Ohio and hope to someday map other USBRs once plans move further along. ODOT has gotten a number of county parks districts

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-11 Thread KerryIrons
list Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA Let's not chide people for keeping this discussion on the list in the open where it belongs. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:12 AM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Alex, I am in contact with the mappers involved

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-11 Thread Alex Barth
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:12 AM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.netwrote: I am in contact with the mappers involved as they have responded to my initial message. This discussion with your mappers group has been very constructive. I am not familiar with your wiki and will look into that.

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Kerry Irons wrote: I would like to get in contact with the mapper(s) who put these routes into OpenStreetMap/OpenCycleMap and clarify this. We are always looking for enthusiastic folks who want to work on the USBR system but in this case putting detailed routes on maps is a source of

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-10 Thread KerryIrons
- From: Richard Fairhurst [mailto:rich...@systemed.net] Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 7:47 AM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA Kerry Irons wrote: I would like to get in contact with the mapper(s) who put these routes into OpenStreetMap

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-10 Thread Paul Johnson
that are not in communication. Kerry -Original Message- From: Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org] Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:35 AM To: OpenStreetMap talk-us list Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA What I mean to say is these were likely

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-10 Thread Paul Johnson
...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA I put them in, based on existing state bike routes that follow the corridors, except in Alabama where the state has actually identified proposed USBRS routings. These aren't just made-up routings, but existing routes

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-10 Thread stevea
I just want to chime in that we (the People of our county: partly by Citizen participation, partly by presentations to our county Regional Transportation Commission) find the visualizations that OSM affords us an excellent way to posit proposed bicycle routing/numbering using the

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-10 Thread KerryIrons
] Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 4:42 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA I just want to chime in that we (the People of our county: partly by Citizen participation, partly by presentations to our county Regional Transportation

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-10 Thread KerryIrons
- From: Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org] Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 2:16 PM To: OpenStreetMap talk-us list Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA Well, this begs the question a bit...what's the difference between chasing down an estimated proposal

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-10 Thread Greg Troxel
I think Kerry's concern is about proposed routes being in the OSM db (and renders) when no such proposed routes exist. Taking a line from wikipedia (which I realize is tricky business), we shouldn't be doing original research in determining things, but rather documenting things that exist. If

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 6:04 PM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.netwrote: It's fine to tag a route as proposed but proposed by who? Let's not get hung up in the semantics; it basically means for all practical purposes not live yet. ___ Talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-10 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2013-03-10 3:47 PM, KerryIrons wrote: And this is a bit off topic (forgive me as I am new here) but why is there no scale displayed on OSM/OCM maps? Likewise why do large city names not show up until you zoom in? At roughly above half way on the detail scale the names Chicago, Detroit,

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-10 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/10/13 8:55 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 6:04 PM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.netwrote: It's fine to tag a route as proposed but proposed by who? Let's not get hung up in the semantics; it basically means for all practical purposes not live yet. i've stayed

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-10 Thread KerryIrons
PM To: OpenStreetMap talk-us list Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 6:04 PM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.net wrote: It's fine to tag a route as proposed but proposed by who? Let's not get hung up in the semantics; it basically means

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
If it's showing up with an under construction or proposed status, it's subject to change and there for approximate visualization in those cases. If you'd like to propose a better way to handle that situation, I'm sure the folks involved would love to hear it! On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 2:48 PM,

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
- From: Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org] Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 3:19 PM Cc: OpenStreetMap talk-us list Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA If it's showing up with an under construction or proposed status, it's subject to change

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-08 Thread KerryIrons
All, I am heavily involved in the development of US Bicycle Routes (see www.adventurecycling.org/usbrs) and it has come to my attention that OpenStreetMap/OpenCycleMap have proposed maps for US Bicycle Routes 21, 25, 80, and 84 in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA. The routes are shown as dashed lines but