Re: [Talk-us] Strange city boundary: Lee, Illinois

Minnesota has around 40 cross-county cities, most of which have just a small portion in the second county. St. Cloud is notable for being in three counties! https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/137238 On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:01 AM Clifford Snow wrote: > Yes - a city can cover more than one

Re: [Talk-us] possible upgrade for residential roads in Detroit

Looked at your examples, and an upgrade makes sense to me. If I see roads like this, I tend to upgrade to a lower level tag (ie tertiary) unless I understand the road network pretty well. Locals can always bump up the level later if it seems justified. Cheers, Brad (neuhausr) On Wed, Aug 16,

Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

Frederik's description of colored polygons made me think of the French OSM instance, which can display admin level, ie http://layers.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=5=39.9597=-78.77311=0B000FFFTFF Regarding Native American reservations, while there "is no consensus" there are a couple

Re: [Talk-us] Available Building Footprints

I think this is it? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Available_Building_Footprints On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Rihards wrote: > On 2017.03.22. 18:37, Clifford Snow wrote: > > I am happy to announce that Microsoft has made available approximately > > 9.8 million

Re: [Talk-us] Blue Ridge Parkway

Also see "But is the Blue Ridge Parkway a National Park?" on the Blue Ridge FAQ: https://www.nps.gov/blri/planyourvisit/np-versus-nf.htm According to that it is a "National Park Service area" but not a park. The NPS makes this distinction on their nomenclature page (

Re: [Talk-us] Is USBR 11 in Maryland complete/correct in OSM?

On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Kerry Irons wrote: > The NB route uses Keep Tryst Rd. west from the path to connect with US 340 > for about 1,500 ft. headed east and then onto the ramp to SR 67. The SB > route takes the right hand ramp from the southern end of SR 67

Re: [Talk-us] Per-State relations for the Appalachian Trail

What about just combining the relations for selected states where the AT crosses back and forth across the state border, like TN/NC and VA/WV? On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > > > On May 2, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Mike N wrote: > > > > On

Re: [Talk-us] Someone please check Beaver Lake, AR

I'm guessing that's the issue--all the tags should be on the relation (once), not duplicated on the individual outer ways that make up the relation. On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Mike Henson wrote: > I noticed Beaver Lake AR is no longer showing up as a lake on the

Re: [Talk-us] Cycle_greenway

All occurrences of cycleway=cycle_greenway seem to be in Seattle as of now: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/bI5 There are at least a few different accounts adding that tag, but STBrenden included the greenway tag in some changeset comments (ie http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/21347401). Have

Re: [Talk-us] Question?

I think there's also this? http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/303225395 On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 6/29/15 3:58 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: Is there any feature on the ground that can be surveyed? From the image it doesn't appear that the

Re: [Talk-us] Proper tagging for crosswalks

Small detail, but if it's a bike trail, bicycle=designated is probably better than bicycle=yes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle#Bicycle_Restrictions On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Jim McAndrew j...@loc8.us wrote: Paul, Bryan, Thanks for your help with this! My issue was with

Re: [Talk-us] Paved Shoulder Tag for US Highways

cycleway=shoulder is used in the US too: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/9IE That seems to more accurately describe the situation, so I'd suggest using that tag. I wouldn't use cycleway=lane since I'd expect that to be marked as such. (basically +1 to Richard's follow up post on the forum

Re: [Talk-us] Removing a CDP

Just to reinforce what has already been said, here's what the Census thinks of CDPs: Census Designated Places (CDPs) are the statistical counterparts of incorporated places, and are* delineated to provide data for settled concentrations of population that are identifiable by name but are not

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

I understand keeping a feature in OSM if there is a remnant of the railroad, but there are areas where everything has been replatted, regraded and redeveloped, yet there is still a razed feature in OSM (for one small example, see https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?#map=16/38.8663/-94.7943). This

Re: [Talk-us] USA Rail: Calling all OSM railfans! (especially in California)

Speaking of rail mapping: I noticed something that could use some attention. The key old_railway_operator=* is used ~90K times, but almost entirely in the US. [1] It has a *really* minimal wiki page. [2] And I don't see it mentioned on the main Railways page [3] or the US Railways project page

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

I punted. When Josm added a preset that included addr:flats, then I started using that tag. Right or wrong I figured most of the other tags are Euro-English coloured, so to speak, that it did not mater if I used addr:flats verses addr:unit. __

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:23 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 2/4/2015 11:25 PM, Greg Morgan wrote: addr:housenumber contains both the number and the building letter in the same field. The map is useful because you can find the building. How have other people tried to handle these

Re: [Talk-us] Who controls data: Google Maps, others erasing Hollywood sign, but it's in OSM

Could you include the new node in the relation as role=label? That's at least somewhat documented... On Thursday, November 27, 2014, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-11-26 18:30 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wiseman awise...@gmail.com

[Talk-us] admin level for US states

I can't speak to the other countries you mention, but Japan's prefectures are the equivalent of US states, and both are admin_level 4. The Japanese states (doshusei) listed for admin_level 3 on the wiki page seem to be some sort of experiment in regional administration. More info in English here:

Re: [Talk-us] admin level for US states

Here is the most recent thread on the tagging list about Indian reservations: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2014-November/020160.html Neither of the proposals mentioned in the thread advocates using admin_level On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Richard Welty

Re: [Talk-us] admin level for US states

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Jack Burke burke...@gmail.com wrote: I would point out that the legal status of U.S. States is slightly different than that of provinces (and likely of states in other countries). For one thing, U.S. States exist in their own right and do not drive their

Re: [Talk-us] Second thoughts

It's in pretty wide use (35K uses), so I created a page in the wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:unsigned_ref But I don't really know the details of usage or best practice, so I hope others can fix and add to what's there... On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Jack Burke

Re: [Talk-us] User going around adding '-' to ref tags in Michigan

This has probably come up in the past, but Michigan's state highways are signed and referred to as M ## http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Michigan_Highways It's also mentioned on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Michigan/Highway_Relations, which differentiates between the network

Re: [Talk-us] Merging NYC buildings

The thing is, once it's in OSM, it's not NYC's data anymore--it's everyone's data. So it's no longer authoritative. Sometimes the crowd will improve it or add to it, sometimes the crowd will screw it up, sometimes the crowd will do it differently than you think is best. The theory (borne out in

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2014 update

you will need to figure out your state's FIPS code to figure out the state files of interest. You'll probably also want to find out the county FIPS code, so you can get the data for a particular area of interest--statewide files can get a little large! You can find the state and county codes

Re: [Talk-us] Taxiways and runways in mapnik?

From osm-talk: On 7 September 2014 13:51, Gorm E. Johnsen osml...@gorm.cc wrote: Any changes to runways and taxiways? These seem to have an issue at the moment. Hard to tell at a glance due to cached tiles and rendering ques. But at least they were not rendered at zoom 15 at one recent point

Re: [Talk-us] routing tags used by actual routing applications

Just trying to process this: wouldn't a tracktype 1 be tagged as unclassified or residential anyway? Or to ask a different way, assuming that roads with houses should be tagged as residential, when should one tag a sub-tertiary road as track vs. using unclassified? On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:21

Re: [Talk-us] routing tags used by actual routing applications

found to date; I'd be open to further suggestions. On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-07-03 17:36 GMT+02:00 Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com: Just trying to process this: wouldn't a tracktype 1 be tagged as unclassified

Re: [Talk-us] Creating a multipolygon of a body of water across state boundaries

It's one body of water, so I would create one multipolygon for the whole reservoir. Data providers should be able to deal with things crossing administrative boundaries, it happens with all sorts of objects. Note that the user who did this made chunks of areas over the water--maybe to avoid the

Re: [Talk-us] Sidewalks as footpaths

Just to clarify, Martijn, are you saying example #1 is physically separate because there's a curb *and* a grassy median in between the street and sidewalk, but example #2 is not physically separate because there's only a curb in between? As a pedestrian, I would hope that a curb would be

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

You might want to check out this thread from last year: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-August/011641.html Cheers, Brad On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:16 PM, robmorgan78 robmorga...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I am doing a project in my GIS class that involves working

Re: [Talk-us] State ref tags on ways

That's totally where my mind went! :) On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Martijn van Exel mart...@openstreetmap.us wrote: Hah. This should be an interesting one then, for trekkies at least: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/187922/7-9.png Create your own at

Re: [Talk-us] Rural Montana - can we find local mappers?

Wolfgang, you might also try looking at contributors with activity in this area, via the Who's Around Me? map. ( http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?zoom=7lat=47.8062lon=-113.57002layers=B00FTT) I don't see anyone active in the exact county you mention, but there are a few fairly regular OSM

Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

Personally, I tag big box stores like Target, KMart, WalMart etc with shop=department_store, just because that seems like the closest fit that isn't too restrictive (they're much more than a supermarket, to my mind). You can pick an area and run Overpass Turbo and see what you get with different

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System#Primary_.28one-_and_two-digit.29_routes_.28contiguous_U.S..29: In the numbering scheme, east-west highways are assigned even numbers and north-south highways are assigned odd numbers. Odd route numbers increase from west to east, and

Re: [Talk-us] Question about incorrect data for an administrative area

Jay, I don't think the data is incorrect. If you look at the City of Las Vegas webmap ( http://clvplaces.appspot.com/apps/interactive/clvpi.htm#ctrLat=36.27433191227921ctrLng=-115.18729447119142zoom=11layers=|10435|10010userMarkers=0mapType=roadmap) and turn on the Cities and City Limits layers,

Re: [Talk-us] Las Vegas region administrative areas

There is a place=town node for Enterprise, which is why Nominatim is returning that. ( http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=3680398185) The question in the forum is confusing the mailing city preferred by the US Postal Service with the administrative area. These often do not

Re: [Talk-us] Lake Powell

Gave it a go, but still hasn't rendered correctly. Looks like there might've been a separate relationship for each state's part of the lake and they got broken somehow, probably in June. I deleted one relation (370016) and consolidated ways into http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=370015 The

[Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

Kerry, NE2 has been indefinitely banned (see http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-May/010867.html ) so if you want these changed, have at it. Cheers, Brad On Wednesday, June 5, 2013, KerryIrons wrote: Nathan, 3 months ago we discussed the existence of US Bicycle Route

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping Party

One thing I'd note *not* to do in the example Martijn sent: individual buildings should not generally be tagged amenity=university, they should be building=* (along with name and whatever other tags). amenity=university is for the overall area outline (or one central node if there isn't an area

Re: [Talk-us] Is there a great geo event that we don't have on our calendar yet? Let me know!

How about the 2013 Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial North America (FOSS4G-NA) conference? It'll be May 22-24 in Minneapolis, MN http://foss4g-na.org/ On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.us/calendar/ Alex Barth

Re: [Talk-us] Tags for Emergency Interstate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_route#Emergency_detour_routes On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 4:19 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.comwrote: What is an emergency Interstate? I don't think I have ever heard that phrase before. Is it a detour to be used while the Interstate highway is under

Re: [Talk-us] National Map Corps Revived - And Using the OSM Stack

I watched it after Ian sent the link. According to the video, it uses Potlatch 2 to gather a very limited set of POIs in the initial pilot area of Colorado. I was kind of curious if there was going to be any interaction with OSM other than using the tool stack. Brad On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at

Re: [Talk-us] More things that are no longer there: schools.

If the building is still there, but not used as a school, I'd tag the building with old_name=[school_name]. Sometimes the name is still chiseled on the side somewhere. Brad On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Kevin Kenny kken...@nycap.rr.com wrote: As I've mentioned in the past, I have some

Re: [Talk-us] One click quality printed maps (as an OSM advantage)

Also: -Export images using the Export tab -Walking Papers http://walking-papers.org/ (my favorite quick printed map solution) On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: There's something

Re: [Talk-us] Address improvement through imports?

just an FYI--some states have laws limiting who can access voter data and/or what purposes the data can be used for (usually related to elections/campaigning) On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Voter records are a good idea. And business registration records /

Re: [Talk-us] County borders vs. State borders

About Minnesota's counties on Lake Superior, the Census has county boundaries going to the state border with WI/MI, and I'm assuming they did their homework. Still, I'll try to double check the legal definitions today. Brad On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: I

Re: [Talk-us] County borders vs. State borders

OK, hoping would be more accurate than assuming :) Thanks for finding the general statutes online, Nathan! On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On 10/18/2011 8:44 AM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: the Census has county boundaries going to the state border

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

Calvin, getting back to your original comment, what exactly do you mean use ZIP codes? They are currently tagged with the key addr:postcode. Are you proposing an import or some other way to use the Census ZCTA data? Brad On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT)

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

Brian, just to save you the trouble, the closest there is to a standard is the FHWA Highway Functional Classification System. There's a wiki page [1] and lengthy discussion about its pros and cons on this page if you want to wade through [2]. Definitely would be a new thread if you want to

Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorm: What should a US map of OSM data look like

Towns appear at zoom level 9 in Mapnik, which seems pretty decent to me. There are tagged towns in SW Kansas that show up, but some villages probably need retagging to towns in the N and W. The Place page recommends tagging county seats as towns regardless of population:

Re: [Talk-us] [KS] anyone familiar with this area?

Wow, what would one tag the Acid Disposal ponds? Much of the TIGER data comes from USGS topos, including this: http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=38.92299,-95.01328z=15t=T ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Use of ref-tag on state highways

I do my best to avoid anything to do with highway relations, but FWIW I recently did just this in Potlatch 2--split a way that's part of relations to add a bridge and totally ignored the relations--and it all worked out fine as far as I can tell: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/126659318

Re: [Talk-us] place=city name=Tri-Cities

I think some are legit. In the case of the Twin Cities, the area isn't just an urban agglomeration, it's major cities that are very tightly interconnected, socially, economically, and governmentally, in addition to geographically (and historically). When talking about the region, residents may

Re: [Talk-us] Sevier Lake Anomaly

You're both right :) Check it out Toby: http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/instr.htm On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: The OpenCycleMap elevation data comes from the SRTM dataset, which

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] how to tag US townships?

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:02 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/10/20 Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com: Aren't admin_level and place getting at slightly different things? admin_level is to mark official political/legal boundaries. place is to mark a...well

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] how to tag US townships?

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote: Andrew S. J. Sawyer assaw...@gmail.com writes: My thoughts are mixed in below. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:17, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote: Antony Pegg anttheli...@gmail.com writes: tagging

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] how to tag US townships?

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 10/20/2010 03:01 PM, Alex Mauer wrote: Townships are at the same level as cities/towns/villages/other municipalities[1], [2]. I’m sure

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] how to tag US townships?

To save you some work, you might look at this report, Government Organization, published in 2002 by the Census: http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/gc021x1.pdf On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: At the

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] how to tag US townships?

... On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 10/20/2010 04:07 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: Only in those states, of course. In Pennsylvania and New Jersey (and apparently the Dakotas?) it should remain admin_level=8. FYI, it's the same with Minnesota: cities

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] how to tag US townships?

Aren't admin_level and place getting at slightly different things? admin_level is to mark official political/legal boundaries. place is to mark a...well...place that has a name, and the place=city|town|village|hamlet does not necessarily align with the type of government (if any) of the place.

[Talk-us] US highway tagging (was: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap)

OK, a metaphorical gauntlet has been thrown down, and Richard makes great points. That said, is there any chance the US community can find some agreement about highway tagging? And once we do, we can broker the Israel-Palestine peace talks. :) But seriously, it seems like we need some sort of

Re: [Talk-us] Address Standard

So, can we agree that in some areas the directionals *are* necessary for display? If not yet, in Minneapolis there are many more examples. To wit, there are four separate roads that are 3rd Ave, each with a different directional: N, S, NE, SE. For a little Where's Waldo fun, see if you can find

Re: [Talk-us] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines

Regarding Matthew's earlier point (Agreed. There is no observation that will tell you whether a road is more important than another road that is not where you are. But you can identify physical characteristics. A lot of these observations will lead to a coherent whole.): it seems like if you take

Re: [Talk-us] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines

I think that's pretty much covered here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Functional_Classification_System On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Carl Anderson carl.ander...@vadose.org wrote: WRT US Highway classifications You may want to take a look at the National Highway Planning

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

From mapquest's blog post [1]: AOL also announced today, a $1 million open-source mapping investment fund. This fund will support the growth of open-source mapping in the United States in the local communities that Patch.com covers. More information about the AOL grant application process is

Re: [Talk-us] Canadian International Boundary Offshore Limit

This might be helpful regarding arctic boundaries/claims: http://www.dur.ac.uk/ibru/resources/arctic/ Brad On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm just thinking about that mega Oil Spill that happened, and the Canadian concerns

Re: [Talk-us] Admin boundaries tied to roads

I'd agree with Brett on the boundaries. The Census data is not perfect by any means, but it's pretty good, at least in my area--Minnesota. (and orders of magnitude better than it was in 2000!) And if it's not good in your area, you should talk to your local government and make sure they're

Re: [Talk-us] proposed first principles for United States road tagging

So, aside from interstates (which it seems like everyone agrees should be tagged as motorways?), should/could System be abstracted out of road tagging definitions? On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 Mar 2010, at 9:38 , McGuire, Matthew wrote: I

Re: [Talk-us] Fw: script for adding layer=1 to bridges

The keepright checker http://keepright.ipax.at/ shows layer conflicts (amongst other things), if you want to clean up an area. Brad On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 1/27/10 9:50 AM, Chris Hunter wrote: Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile