subject:"RE\: question about re installing wineyes"

thing is they can't kill window eyes as long as people choose to use it. 
and if people keep sharing and passing it around then it won't die. if 
NVDA can only get network installs and citrix support it'll really cut 
into the jaws profits.




On 9/9/2017 9:20 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Businesses buy other businesses every day to either kill the 
competition or incorporate the technology into their own product 
lines. VFO bought AI Squared to kill Window-Eyes and replace their bad 
screen magnification program with the best selling ZoomText.


On 9/9/2017 9:11 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote:
when stuff is no longer supported it should really be open source 
otherwise it will be lost to time.


On 9/9/2017 12:47 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Russ and all,

As memory serves, you do have to enter the correct name when you 
install Window-Eyes.
Regardless whether I'm right about that point, as much as this 
thread seems to entertain the idea of sharing retail copies of 
Window-Eyes, I think you'll run into copyright infringement if you 
do this.


Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: September 9, 2017 9:23 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

It's my understanding it doesn't matter what name you put in, it's the
serial number that matters.

-Original Message-
From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:38 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

Only sort of.  The serial number is assigned to a specific person, so
the name and any other information that is asked for during 
installation

would need to be the same for both people. So, if you gave me your copy
and did not tell me your information, your copy, on my PC would 
still be

a demo copy.


On 9/8/2017 12:44 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person 
would
still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't 
this

correct?

On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]

  wrote:

Hi Loy,

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it 
would be
okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because 
it was

no longer being developed.
I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore,
infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some
countries you had to have a dongle.
    - Original Message -
    From: Rod Hutton via Talk
    To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
    Cc: Rod Hutton
    Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
    Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


    Hi Loy,

    If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
    I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
    If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

    Best,

    Rod

    -Original Message-
    From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
    Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
    To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
    Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

    There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you 
can get a
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from 
someone

else then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or
developed then using some one else's copy would not matter.
  - Original Message -
  From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


  And then after installation of WE how about the online 
activation?


  -Original Message-
  From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On

Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
      Cc: aad leeflang
  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

  ok thanks
  i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd 
newer

than 9.0.
  i downloadee most versions.
  but how do i get a more acurate version though?
  or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new 
pc.

  i guess not.

Re: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-09 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk

Businesses buy other businesses every day to either kill the competition 
or incorporate the technology into their own product lines. VFO bought 
AI Squared to kill Window-Eyes and replace their bad screen 
magnification program with the best selling ZoomText.

On 9/9/2017 9:11 PM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote:
when stuff is no longer supported it should really be open source 
otherwise it will be lost to time.

On 9/9/2017 12:47 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Russ and all,

As memory serves, you do have to enter the correct name when you 
install Window-Eyes.
Regardless whether I'm right about that point, as much as this thread 
seems to entertain the idea of sharing retail copies of Window-Eyes, I 
think you'll run into copyright infringement if you do this.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: September 9, 2017 9:23 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

It's my understanding it doesn't matter what name you put in, it's the
serial number that matters.

-Original Message-
From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:38 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

Only sort of.  The serial number is assigned to a specific person, so
the name and any other information that is asked for during installation
would need to be the same for both people. So, if you gave me your copy
and did not tell me your information, your copy, on my PC would still be
a demo copy.

On 9/8/2017 12:44 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:

If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person would
still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't this
correct?

On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]

  wrote:

Hi Loy,

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be
okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was
no longer being developed.
I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore,
infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some
countries you had to have a dongle.
- Original Message -
From: Rod Hutton via Talk
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
    Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

Hi Loy,

If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

Best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can 
get a

downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone
else then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or
developed then using some one else's copy would not matter.
  - Original Message -
  From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

  And then after installation of WE how about the online 
activation?

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
      Cc: aad leeflang
  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

  ok thanks
  i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer
than 9.0.
  i downloadee most versions.
  but how do i get a more acurate version though?
  or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
  i guess not.
  aad
  On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
  Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

  > Hi Aad,
  >
  > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at
least version 9.2.
  >
  > Hth,
  >
  > Rod
  >
  >

Re: question about re installing wineyes

hey olusegun, any chance of getting the window eye source code?

On 9/9/2017 3:20 PM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
wrote:

Copyrights can, and do expire! That's why there are so many free books out
there in the wilderness! Since V F O or whatever name it calls itself no
longer supports or develops Window-Eyes, any copyright it may claim, if not
now, will eventually become useless and worthless!

Have you heard of Just Click? Well, Amazon patented it almost forever.
This patent just expired and Amazon can't stop anyone from using or
modifying it for use on any product including the world wide web.

A good question for V F O or its functionaries will be how to convince a
court that its copyright of Window-Eyes is still valid when the product is
NO LONGER being developed. Should be interesting, but I believe they'll
lose their teeth in the process!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado

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Re: question about re installing wineyes

I installed jaws today to check out what's new. was not impressed, 
uninstalled it. Whenever I get the money saved up I'd rather donate that 
$1200 to NVDA.




On 9/9/2017 2:33 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Thanks, Carol.

That's what I assume, and so why I'm counselling caution about distributing 
Window-Eyes even though VFO claims that it will no longer be developed.
Besides, being their product, they can do whatever they want with Window-Eyes 
in the future, even resurrect it, should they choose to do so.

Best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: September 9, 2017 2:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Carol and Roger <carogsm...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

Hi Rod,

Yes, you are correct.  Even if the company is gone, the copywright is
still there.  It is the same as a person writing a book.  The book can
be copywrighted for as long as someone wishes to keep it going.  So, AI
may have forwarded the copywright which would now fall on VFO to
continue to maintain that, even though the product is no longer being
distributed.

Carol


On 9/9/2017 12:47 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Russ and all,

As memory serves, you do have to enter the correct name when you install 
Window-Eyes.
Regardless whether I'm right about that point, as much as this thread seems to 
entertain the idea of sharing retail copies of Window-Eyes, I think you'll run 
into copyright infringement if you do this.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: September 9, 2017 9:23 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

It's my understanding it doesn't matter what name you put in, it's the
serial number that matters.

-Original Message-
From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:38 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

Only sort of.  The serial number is assigned to a specific person, so
the name and any other information that is asked for during installation
would need to be the same for both people. So, if you gave me your copy
and did not tell me your information, your copy, on my PC would still be
a demo copy.


On 9/8/2017 12:44 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:

If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person would
still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't this
correct?

On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]

   wrote:

Hi Loy,

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be
okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was
no longer being developed.
I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore,
infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some
countries you had to have a dongle.
 - Original Message -
 From: Rod Hutton via Talk
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Cc: Rod Hutton
 Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
 Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


 Hi Loy,

 If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
 I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
 If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

 Best,

 Rod

 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
 Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
 Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
 Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

 There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone
else then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or
developed then using some one else's copy would not matter.
   - Original Message -
   From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
   To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
   Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
   Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


   And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

   -Original Message-
   From

Re: question about re installing wineyes

once NVDA has network install and remote citrix support it will probably 
put the high priced jaws and others out of business. free with donations 
is best.




On 9/9/2017 2:33 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Thanks, Carol.

That's what I assume, and so why I'm counselling caution about distributing 
Window-Eyes even though VFO claims that it will no longer be developed.
Besides, being their product, they can do whatever they want with Window-Eyes 
in the future, even resurrect it, should they choose to do so.

Best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: September 9, 2017 2:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Carol and Roger <carogsm...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

Hi Rod,

Yes, you are correct.  Even if the company is gone, the copywright is
still there.  It is the same as a person writing a book.  The book can
be copywrighted for as long as someone wishes to keep it going.  So, AI
may have forwarded the copywright which would now fall on VFO to
continue to maintain that, even though the product is no longer being
distributed.

Carol


On 9/9/2017 12:47 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Russ and all,

As memory serves, you do have to enter the correct name when you install 
Window-Eyes.
Regardless whether I'm right about that point, as much as this thread seems to 
entertain the idea of sharing retail copies of Window-Eyes, I think you'll run 
into copyright infringement if you do this.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: September 9, 2017 9:23 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

It's my understanding it doesn't matter what name you put in, it's the
serial number that matters.

-Original Message-
From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:38 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

Only sort of.  The serial number is assigned to a specific person, so
the name and any other information that is asked for during installation
would need to be the same for both people. So, if you gave me your copy
and did not tell me your information, your copy, on my PC would still be
a demo copy.


On 9/8/2017 12:44 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:

If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person would
still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't this
correct?

On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]

   wrote:

Hi Loy,

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be
okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was
no longer being developed.
I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore,
infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some
countries you had to have a dongle.
 - Original Message -
 From: Rod Hutton via Talk
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Cc: Rod Hutton
 Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
 Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


 Hi Loy,

 If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
 I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
 If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

 Best,

 Rod

 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
 Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
 Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
 Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

 There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone
else then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or
developed then using some one else's copy would not matter.
   - Original Message -
   From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
   To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
   Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
   Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


   And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

   -Original Message-
   From

Re: question about re installing wineyes

when stuff is no longer supported it should really be open source 
otherwise it will be lost to time.

On 9/9/2017 12:47 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Russ and all,

As memory serves, you do have to enter the correct name when you install 
Window-Eyes.
Regardless whether I'm right about that point, as much as this thread seems to 
entertain the idea of sharing retail copies of Window-Eyes, I think you'll run 
into copyright infringement if you do this.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: September 9, 2017 9:23 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

It's my understanding it doesn't matter what name you put in, it's the
serial number that matters.

-Original Message-
From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:38 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

Only sort of.  The serial number is assigned to a specific person, so
the name and any other information that is asked for during installation
would need to be the same for both people. So, if you gave me your copy
and did not tell me your information, your copy, on my PC would still be
a demo copy.

On 9/8/2017 12:44 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:

If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person would
still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't this
correct?

On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]

  wrote:

Hi Loy,

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be
okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was
no longer being developed.
I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore,
infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some
countries you had to have a dongle.
- Original Message -
From: Rod Hutton via Talk
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
    Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

Hi Loy,

If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

Best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone
else then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or
developed then using some one else's copy would not matter.
  - Original Message -
  From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

  And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
      Cc: aad leeflang
  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

  ok thanks
  i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer
than 9.0.
  i downloadee most versions.
  but how do i get a more acurate version though?
  or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
  i guess not.
  aad
  On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
  Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

  > Hi Aad,
  >
  > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at
least version 9.2.
  >
  > Hth,
  >
  > Rod
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Talk
  > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On
  > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
  > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
  > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
  > Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>

Re: question about re installing wineyes

if we is no longer sold supported or activated then maybe we should try 
and get its source code and put it up on github so others can develop 
window eyes as an open source project.




On 9/8/2017 12:55 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:

If you use a purchased fully downloaded copy of WE  or a CD that copy will have 
the Serial number included in the installation copy and there is not an 
activation. If you are talking about the Free for office version, I don't know 
how this was activated. But purchased copies never had to be activated, you 
could install on as many computers as you wish. WE is no longer sold, 
supported, updated.
   - Original Message -
   From: brice Mijares via Talk
   To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
   Cc: brice Mijares
   Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:44 PM
   Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes


   If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person would
   still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't this
   correct?

   On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]

 wrote:
   > Hi Loy,
   >
   > Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be 
okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was no longer 
being developed.
   > I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore, 
infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.
   >
   > Thanks,
   >
   > Rod
   >
   > -Original Message-
   > From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of 
Loy via Talk
   > Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
   > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
   > Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
   > Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
   >
   > If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some 
countries you had to have a dongle.
   >- Original Message -
   >From: Rod Hutton via Talk
   >To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   >Cc: Rod Hutton
   >    Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
   >Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes
   >
   >
   >Hi Loy,
   >
   >If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
   >I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
   >If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.
   >
   >Best,
   >
   >Rod
   >
   >-Original Message-
   >From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of 
Loy via Talk
   >Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
   >    To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
   >Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
   >Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
   >
   >There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a 
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone else then 
you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or developed then using 
some one else's copy would not matter.
   >  - Original Message -
   >  From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
   >      To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   >  Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
   >  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
   >  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes
   >
   >
   >  And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?
   >
   >  -Original Message-
   >  From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of 
aad leeflang via Talk
   >  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
   >  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   >  Cc: aad leeflang
   >  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
   >
   >  ok thanks
   >  i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than 
9.0.
   >  i downloadee most versions.
   >  but how do i get a more acurate version though?
   >  or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
   >  i guess not.
   >  aad
   >  On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
   >  Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
   >
   >  > Hi Aad,
   >  >
   >  > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at 
least version 9.2.
   >  >
   >  > Hth,
   >  >
   >  > Rod
   >  >
   >  > -Original Message-
   >  > From: Talk
   >  > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On
   >  > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
   >  > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
   >  > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
   >  > Cc: aad leef

Re: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-09 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk

you can still get window eyes from www.windoweyesforoffice.com

On 9/8/2017 10:40 AM, Loy via Talk wrote:

There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a 
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone else 
then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or developed then 
using some one else's copy would not matter.
   - Original Message -
   From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
   To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
   Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
   Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

   And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

   -Original Message-
   From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of aad leeflang via Talk
   Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
   To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Cc: aad leeflang
   Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

   ok thanks
   i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than 9.0.
   i downloadee most versions.
   but how do i get a more acurate version though?
   or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
   i guess not.
   aad
   On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
   Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

   > Hi Aad,
   >
   > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least 
version 9.2.
   >
   > Hth,
   >
   > Rod
   >
   > -Original Message-
   > From: Talk
   > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
   > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
   > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
   > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
   > Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
   > Subject: question about re installing wineyes
   >
   > hello all
   > i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
   > i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it does
   > not work under windows 10.
   > i had the cd version 9.0.
   > is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so that
   > i re install it?
   > there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and could
   > work better with window eyes.
   > anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws sould be
   > better tan window eyes anyway.
   > aad
   >
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Re: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-09 Thread David via Talk

gun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
> Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes
>
> Copyrights can, and do expire!  That's why there are so many free 
> books out
> there in the wilderness!  Since V F O or whatever name it calls itself no
> longer supports or develops Window-Eyes, any copyright it may claim, 
> if not
> now, will eventually become useless and worthless!
>
> Have you heard of Just Click?  Well, Amazon patented it almost forever.
> This patent just expired and Amazon can't stop anyone from using or
> modifying it for use on any product including the world wide web.
>
> A good question for V F O or its functionaries will be how to convince a
> court that its copyright of Window-Eyes is still valid when the 
> product is
> NO LONGER being developed.  Should be interesting, but I believe they'll
> lose their teeth in the process!
>
> Sincerely,
> Olusegun
> Denver, Colorado
>
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Re: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-09 Thread Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk

The "just click" may be a patent. In the US, patents expire in 17 years. But 
anything copyrighted since 1922 is, I think, still copyrighted.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
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-Original Message- 
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 3:20 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

Copyrights can, and do expire!  That's why there are so many free books out
there in the wilderness!  Since V F O or whatever name it calls itself no
longer supports or develops Window-Eyes, any copyright it may claim, if not
now, will eventually become useless and worthless!

Have you heard of Just Click?  Well, Amazon patented it almost forever.
This patent just expired and Amazon can't stop anyone from using or
modifying it for use on any product including the world wide web.

A good question for V F O or its functionaries will be how to convince a
court that its copyright of Window-Eyes is still valid when the product is
NO LONGER being developed.  Should be interesting, but I believe they'll
lose their teeth in the process!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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RE: question about re installing wineyes

Copyrights can, and do expire!  That's why there are so many free books out
there in the wilderness!  Since V F O or whatever name it calls itself no
longer supports or develops Window-Eyes, any copyright it may claim, if not
now, will eventually become useless and worthless!  

Have you heard of Just Click?  Well, Amazon patented it almost forever.
This patent just expired and Amazon can't stop anyone from using or
modifying it for use on any product including the world wide web.  

A good question for V F O or its functionaries will be how to convince a
court that its copyright of Window-Eyes is still valid when the product is
NO LONGER being developed.  Should be interesting, but I believe they'll
lose their teeth in the process!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado  


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RE: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-09 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk

Thanks, Carol.

That's what I assume, and so why I'm counselling caution about distributing 
Window-Eyes even though VFO claims that it will no longer be developed.
Besides, being their product, they can do whatever they want with Window-Eyes 
in the future, even resurrect it, should they choose to do so.

Best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: September 9, 2017 2:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Carol and Roger <carogsm...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

Hi Rod,

Yes, you are correct.  Even if the company is gone, the copywright is 
still there.  It is the same as a person writing a book.  The book can 
be copywrighted for as long as someone wishes to keep it going.  So, AI 
may have forwarded the copywright which would now fall on VFO to 
continue to maintain that, even though the product is no longer being 
distributed.

Carol


On 9/9/2017 12:47 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> Hi Russ and all,
>
> As memory serves, you do have to enter the correct name when you install 
> Window-Eyes.
> Regardless whether I'm right about that point, as much as this thread seems 
> to entertain the idea of sharing retail copies of Window-Eyes, I think you'll 
> run into copyright infringement if you do this.
>
> Hth,
>
> Rod
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
> Sent: September 9, 2017 9:23 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Cc: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
>
> It's my understanding it doesn't matter what name you put in, it's the
> serial number that matters.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Carol and Roger via Talk
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:38 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: Carol and Roger
> Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
>
> Only sort of.  The serial number is assigned to a specific person, so
> the name and any other information that is asked for during installation
> would need to be the same for both people. So, if you gave me your copy
> and did not tell me your information, your copy, on my PC would still be
> a demo copy.
>
>
> On 9/8/2017 12:44 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
>> If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person would
>> still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't this
>> correct?
>>
>> On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]
>>
>>   wrote:
>>> Hi Loy,
>>>
>>> Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be
>>> okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was
>>> no longer being developed.
>>> I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore,
>>> infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Rod
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Talk
>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Loy via Talk
>>> Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>>> Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
>>>
>>> If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some
>>> countries you had to have a dongle.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Rod Hutton via Talk
>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Cc: Rod Hutton
>>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
>>> Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Loy,
>>>
>>> If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
>>> I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
>>> If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rod
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Talk
>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Loy via Talk
>>> Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>>> Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
>>>

RE: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-09 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk

Hi Tom,

Actually, I have not, as yet, set up any list.
I'm still working out the technical details for a website or a web folder where 
app updates will be available.

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Sent: September 9, 2017 1:44 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Tom Fairhurst <tfairhu...@kc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

Rod, could you please send me the link to your List? I have misplaced it.

-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 11:47 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

Hi Russ and all,

As memory serves, you do have to enter the correct name when you install 
Window-Eyes.
Regardless whether I'm right about that point, as much as this thread seems 
to entertain the idea of sharing retail copies of Window-Eyes, I think 
you'll run into copyright infringement if you do this.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: September 9, 2017 9:23 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

It's my understanding it doesn't matter what name you put in, it's the
serial number that matters.

-Original Message- 
From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:38 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

Only sort of.  The serial number is assigned to a specific person, so
the name and any other information that is asked for during installation
would need to be the same for both people. So, if you gave me your copy
and did not tell me your information, your copy, on my PC would still be
a demo copy.


On 9/8/2017 12:44 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
> If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person would
> still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't this
> correct?
>
> On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]
>
>  wrote:
>> Hi Loy,
>>
>> Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be
>> okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was
>> no longer being developed.
>> I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore,
>> infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rod
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>> Behalf Of Loy via Talk
>> Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
>>
>> If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some
>> countries you had to have a dongle.
>>    ----- Original Message -
>>From: Rod Hutton via Talk
>>To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>Cc: Rod Hutton
>>Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
>>Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes
>>
>>
>>Hi Loy,
>>
>>If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
>>I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
>>If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Rod
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>> Behalf Of Loy via Talk
>>Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
>>To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>>Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
>>
>>There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a
>> downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone
>> else then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or
>> developed then using some one else's copy would not matter.
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
>>  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>  Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
>>  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
>>  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes
>>
>>
>>  And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?
>>
>>  -Orig

Re: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-09 Thread Carol and Roger via Talk

Hi Rod,

Yes, you are correct.  Even if the company is gone, the copywright is 
still there.  It is the same as a person writing a book.  The book can 
be copywrighted for as long as someone wishes to keep it going.  So, AI 
may have forwarded the copywright which would now fall on VFO to 
continue to maintain that, even though the product is no longer being 
distributed.

Carol

On 9/9/2017 12:47 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Russ and all,

As memory serves, you do have to enter the correct name when you install 
Window-Eyes.
Regardless whether I'm right about that point, as much as this thread seems to 
entertain the idea of sharing retail copies of Window-Eyes, I think you'll run 
into copyright infringement if you do this.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: September 9, 2017 9:23 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

It's my understanding it doesn't matter what name you put in, it's the
serial number that matters.

-Original Message-
From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:38 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

Only sort of.  The serial number is assigned to a specific person, so
the name and any other information that is asked for during installation
would need to be the same for both people. So, if you gave me your copy
and did not tell me your information, your copy, on my PC would still be
a demo copy.

On 9/8/2017 12:44 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:

If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person would
still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't this
correct?

On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]

  wrote:

Hi Loy,

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be
okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was
no longer being developed.
I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore,
infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some
countries you had to have a dongle.
- Original Message -
From: Rod Hutton via Talk
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
    Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

Hi Loy,

If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

Best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone
else then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or
developed then using some one else's copy would not matter.
  - Original Message -
  From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

  And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
      Cc: aad leeflang
  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

  ok thanks
  i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer
than 9.0.
  i downloadee most versions.
  but how do i get a more acurate version though?
  or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
  i guess not.
  aad
  On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
  Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

  > Hi Aad,
  >
  > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at
least version 9.2.
  >
  > Hth,
  >
  > Rod
  >
  > -Original Message---

Re: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-09 Thread Tom Fairhurst via Talk

Rod, could you please send me the link to your List? I have misplaced it.

-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk

Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 11:47 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

Hi Russ and all,

As memory serves, you do have to enter the correct name when you install 
Window-Eyes.
Regardless whether I'm right about that point, as much as this thread seems 
to entertain the idea of sharing retail copies of Window-Eyes, I think 
you'll run into copyright infringement if you do this.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: September 9, 2017 9:23 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

It's my understanding it doesn't matter what name you put in, it's the
serial number that matters.

-Original Message- 
From: Carol and Roger via Talk

Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:38 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

Only sort of.  The serial number is assigned to a specific person, so
the name and any other information that is asked for during installation
would need to be the same for both people. So, if you gave me your copy
and did not tell me your information, your copy, on my PC would still be
a demo copy.

On 9/8/2017 12:44 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:

If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person would
still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't this
correct?

On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]

 wrote:

Hi Loy,

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be
okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was
no longer being developed.
I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore,
infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some
countries you had to have a dongle.
   - Original Message -
   From: Rod Hutton via Talk
   To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Cc: Rod Hutton
   Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
   Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

   Hi Loy,

   If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
   I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
   If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

   Best,

   Rod

   -Original Message-
   From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
   Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
   To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
   Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
   Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

   There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone
else then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or
developed then using some one else's copy would not matter.
 - Original Message -
 From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
 Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
 Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

 And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
 Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
     Cc: aad leeflang
 Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

 ok thanks
 i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer
than 9.0.
 i downloadee most versions.
 but how do i get a more acurate version though?
 or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
 i guess not.
 aad
 On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
 Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

 > Hi Aad,
 >
 > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at
least version 9.2.
 >
 > Hth,
 >
 > Rod
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: Talk
 > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On
 > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
 > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
 > To: talk@lists.window-eye

RE: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-09 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk

Hi Russ and all,

As memory serves, you do have to enter the correct name when you install 
Window-Eyes.
Regardless whether I'm right about that point, as much as this thread seems to 
entertain the idea of sharing retail copies of Window-Eyes, I think you'll run 
into copyright infringement if you do this.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: September 9, 2017 9:23 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

It's my understanding it doesn't matter what name you put in, it's the 
serial number that matters.

-Original Message- 
From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:38 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

Only sort of.  The serial number is assigned to a specific person, so
the name and any other information that is asked for during installation
would need to be the same for both people. So, if you gave me your copy
and did not tell me your information, your copy, on my PC would still be
a demo copy.


On 9/8/2017 12:44 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
> If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person would 
> still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't this 
> correct?
>
> On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]
>
>  wrote:
>> Hi Loy,
>>
>> Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be 
>> okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was 
>> no longer being developed.
>> I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore, 
>> infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rod
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk 
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Loy via Talk
>> Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
>>
>> If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some 
>> countries you had to have a dongle.
>>    - Original Message -----
>>From: Rod Hutton via Talk
>>To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>Cc: Rod Hutton
>>Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
>>Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes
>>
>>
>>Hi Loy,
>>
>>If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
>>I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
>>If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Rod
>>
>>-Original Message-----
>>    From: Talk 
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Loy via Talk
>>Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
>>To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>>Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
>>
>>There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a 
>> downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone 
>> else then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or 
>> developed then using some one else's copy would not matter.
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
>>  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>  Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
>>  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
>>  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes
>>
>>
>>  And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?
>>
>>  -Original Message-
>>  From: Talk 
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
>> Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
>>  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
>>  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>  Cc: aad leeflang
>>  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
>>
>>  ok thanks
>>  i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer 
>> than 9.0.
>>  i downloadee most versions.
>>  but how do i get a more acurate version though?
>>  or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
>>  i guess not.
>>  aad
>>  On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16

Re: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-09 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk

It's my understanding it doesn't matter what name you put in, it's the 
serial number that matters.

-Original Message- 
From: Carol and Roger via Talk

Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:38 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

Only sort of.  The serial number is assigned to a specific person, so
the name and any other information that is asked for during installation
would need to be the same for both people. So, if you gave me your copy
and did not tell me your information, your copy, on my PC would still be
a demo copy.

On 9/8/2017 12:44 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person would 
still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't this 
correct?

On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]

 wrote:

Hi Loy,

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be 
okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was 
no longer being developed.
I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore, 
infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Loy via Talk

Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some 
countries you had to have a dongle.

   - Original Message -
   From: Rod Hutton via Talk
   To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Cc: Rod Hutton
   Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
   Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

   Hi Loy,

   If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
   I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
   If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

   Best,

   Rod

   -Original Message-
   From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Loy via Talk

   Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
   To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
   Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
   Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

   There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a 
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone 
else then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or 
developed then using some one else's copy would not matter.

 - Original Message -
 From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
 Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
     Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

 And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

 -Original Message-
 From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk

 Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Cc: aad leeflang
     Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

 ok thanks
 i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer 
than 9.0.

 i downloadee most versions.
 but how do i get a more acurate version though?
 or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
 i guess not.
 aad
 On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
 Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

 > Hi Aad,
 >
 > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at 
least version 9.2.

 >
 > Hth,
 >
 > Rod
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: Talk
 > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On

 > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
 > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
 > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 > Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
 > Subject: question about re installing wineyes
 >
 > hello all
 > i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
 > i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it 
does

 > not work under windows 10.
 > i had the cd version 9.0.
 > is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so 
that

 > i re install it?
 > there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and 
could

 > work better with window eyes.
 > anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws sould 
be

 > better tan window eyes anyway.
 > aad
 >
 > ___
 > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of 
the author and do not necessari

RE: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-08 Thread Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk

True, in the past I had a dongle copy of we but later I switch to the everlock 
edition which requires an online activation.  In us I don't know that it 
doesn't require an activation, good really fortunate the us citezens.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 5:37 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Loy
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some countries 
you had to have a dongle.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rod Hutton via Talk 
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Cc: Rod Hutton 
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


  Hi Loy,

  If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
  I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
  If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

  Best,

  Rod

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Loy via Talk
  Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
  Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

  There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a 
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone else 
then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or developed then 
using some one else's copy would not matter.
- Original Message - 
From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk 
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA 
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
    Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of aad leeflang via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: aad leeflang
    Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

ok thanks
i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than 9.0.
i downloadee most versions.
but how do i get a more acurate version though?
or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
i guess not.
aad
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hi Aad,
> 
> In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least 
version 9.2.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
> Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
> Subject: question about re installing wineyes
> 
> hello all
> i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
> i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it does 
> not work under windows 10.
> i had the cd version 9.0.
> is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so that 
> i re install it?
> there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and could 
> work better with window eyes.
> anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws sould be 
> better tan window eyes anyway.
> aad
> 
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Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you haven't downloaded and you still have your link, you can still download 
it. I just found my email that had my download link in it and I clicked on it 
and I got the download. I don't know how long  VFO will leave the download link 
up, so if you haven't already done so, I would download and place it on a thumb 
drive or CD and then you'll have it for as long as you wish to use Window Eyes.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dennis Long via Talk 
  To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
  Cc: Dennis Long 
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 8:03 PM
  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


  They gave me a download link to down load my purchased copy of WE a few
  months ago I want to say it was June.

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
  On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
  Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:02 AM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Cc: Rod Hutton
  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

  Hi Loy,

  If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
  I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
  If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

  Best,

  Rod

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk
  [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
  Of Loy via Talk
  Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
  Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

  There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a
  downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone else
  then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or developed
  then using some one else's copy would not matter.
- Original Message - 
From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk 
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA 
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
    Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

-Original Message-
From: Talk
  [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
  Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: aad leeflang
    Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

ok thanks
i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than 9.0.
i downloadee most versions.
but how do i get a more acurate version though?
or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
i guess not.
aad
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hi Aad,
> 
> In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least
  version 9.2.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
> Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
> Subject: question about re installing wineyes
> 
> hello all
> i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
> i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it does 
> not work under windows 10.
> i had the cd version 9.0.
> is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so that 
> i re install it?
> there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and could 
> work better with window eyes.
> anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws sould be 
> better tan window eyes anyway.
> aad
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RE: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-08 Thread Dennis Long via Talk

They gave me a download link to down load my purchased copy of WE a few
months ago I want to say it was June.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 11:02 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

Hi Loy,

If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

Best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
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Of Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone else
then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or developed
then using some one else's copy would not matter.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk 
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA 
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


  And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Cc: aad leeflang
  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

  ok thanks
  i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than 9.0.
  i downloadee most versions.
  but how do i get a more acurate version though?
  or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
  i guess not.
  aad
  On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
  Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

  > Hi Aad,
  > 
  > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least
version 9.2.
  > 
  > Hth,
  > 
  > Rod
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Talk 
  > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
  > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
  > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
  > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
  > Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
  > Subject: question about re installing wineyes
  > 
  > hello all
  > i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
  > i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it does 
  > not work under windows 10.
  > i had the cd version 9.0.
  > is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so that 
  > i re install it?
  > there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and could 
  > work better with window eyes.
  > anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws sould be 
  > better tan window eyes anyway.
  > aad
  > 
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Re: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-08 Thread Tom via Talk


VFO has the serial numbers of everybody who has purchased a
Window-Eyes license. Shortly after the migration program was
announced I called to see if I could get JAWS on a DVD and
the lady wanted to know my Window-Eyes serial number. All my
information was available to her including everything I
previously purchased from GW Micro. Don't remember if she had
my credit number, but it might have been available too.

Tom

** Your Message **
Neither do I. It'snot like you are keeping them from
providing you with a copy anymore.
Pam.


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Re: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-08 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk

Neither do I.  It'snot like you are keeping them from providing you with a 
copy anymore.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Loy via Talk

Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:17 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Loy
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

It might not be legal, but if you bought WE and they won't provide a copy 
for you I don't see why you could not use  another copy.
 - iginal Message - 
 From: Rod Hutton via Talk

 Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Cc: Rod Hutton
 Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:57 AM
 Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


 Hi Loy,

 Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be 
okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was no 
longer being developed.
 I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore, 
infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.


 Thanks,

 Rod

 -Original Message-
 From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Loy via Talk

 Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
 Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
 Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

 If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some 
countries you had to have a dongle.
   - Original Message - 
   From: Rod Hutton via Talk

   To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Cc: Rod Hutton
   Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
   Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


   Hi Loy,

   If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
   I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
   If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

   Best,

   Rod

   -Original Message-
   From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Loy via Talk

   Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
   To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
   Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
   Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

   There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a 
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone else 
then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or developed 
then using some one else's copy would not matter.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk

 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
 Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
     Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


 And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

 -Original Message-
 From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk

 Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Cc: aad leeflang
     Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

 ok thanks
 i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than 
9.0.

 i downloadee most versions.
 but how do i get a more acurate version though?
 or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
 i guess not.
 aad
 On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
 Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

 > Hi Aad,
 >
 > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least 
version 9.2.

 >
 > Hth,
 >
 > Rod
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: Talk
 > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On

 > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
 > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
 > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 > Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
 > Subject: question about re installing wineyes
 >
 > hello all
 > i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
 > i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it does
 > not work under windows 10.
 > i had the cd version 9.0.
 > is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so 
that

 > i re install it?
 > there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and could
 > work better with window eyes.
 > anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws sould be
 > better tan window eyes anyway.
 > aad
 >
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Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you downloaded a paid version of WE after purchasing voices the voices will 
be included in the downloaded copy, but for the free version you may be out of 
luck there.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rod Hutton via Talk 
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Cc: Rod Hutton 
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:06 PM
  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


  Hi Loy,

  Okay, thanks for the clarification.
  I see where you're going, or coming from, at least. (smile)
  As for the Office version of WE, as far as I know, WE detects whether Office 
2010 or later is present on the system and self-activates.
  Apart from this, the only activation required would be the synthesizer voices 
which users bought separately.

  Thanks,

  Rod

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Loy via Talk
  Sent: September 8, 2017 12:17 PM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
  Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

  It might not be legal, but if you bought WE and they won't provide a copy for 
you I don't see why you could not use  another copy.
- iginal Message - 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk 
Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:57 AM
    Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


Hi Loy,

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be okay 
for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was no longer 
being developed.
I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore, infringement 
of copyright to let someone else use it.

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of 
Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some 
countries you had to have a dongle.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rod Hutton via Talk 
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Cc: Rod Hutton 
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
      Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


  Hi Loy,

  If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
  I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
  If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

  Best,

  Rod

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of 
Loy via Talk
  Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
  Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

  There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a 
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone else 
then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or developed then 
using some one else's copy would not matter.
- Original Message - 
From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk 
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA 
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
    Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of aad leeflang via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
    Cc: aad leeflang
    Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

ok thanks
i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than 
9.0.
i downloadee most versions.
but how do i get a more acurate version though?
or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
i guess not.
aad
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hi Aad,
> 
> In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least 
version 9.2.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
> Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
> Subject: question about re inst

Re: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-08 Thread Carol and Roger via Talk

Only sort of.  The serial number is assigned to a specific person, so 
the name and any other information that is asked for during installation 
would need to be the same for both people. So, if you gave me your copy 
and did not tell me your information, your copy, on my PC would still be 
a demo copy.

On 9/8/2017 12:44 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person 
would still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. 
Isn't this correct?

On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]

 wrote:

Hi Loy,

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would 
be okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because 
it was no longer being developed.
I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore, 
infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Loy via Talk

Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some 
countries you had to have a dongle.

   - Original Message -
   From: Rod Hutton via Talk
   To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Cc: Rod Hutton
   Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
   Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

   Hi Loy,

   If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
   I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
   If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

   Best,

   Rod

   -Original Message-
   From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Loy via Talk

   Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
   To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
   Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
   Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

   There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can 
get a downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from 
someone else then you could install it. Being it is no longer being 
sold or developed then using some one else's copy would not matter.

 - Original Message -
 From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
 Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
     Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

 And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

 -Original Message-
 From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk

 Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Cc: aad leeflang
     Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

 ok thanks
 i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer 
than 9.0.

 i downloadee most versions.
 but how do i get a more acurate version though?
 or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
 i guess not.
 aad
 On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
 Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

 > Hi Aad,
 >
 > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at 
least version 9.2.

 >
 > Hth,
 >
 > Rod
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: Talk
 > 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On

 > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
 > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
 > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 > Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
 > Subject: question about re installing wineyes
 >
 > hello all
 > i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
 > i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it 
does

 > not work under windows 10.
 > i had the cd version 9.0.
 > is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes 
so that

 > i re install it?
 > there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and 
could

 > work better with window eyes.
 > anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws 
sould be

 > better tan window eyes anyway.
 > aad
 >
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Re: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-08 Thread brice Mijares via Talk

Okay, it sounds as if my assumption was incorrect. When I heard Window 
eyes was closing down I asked for a copy of the latest version and was 
sent a link for my copy to download. I assumed it was the same copy 
every one was getting, and if you did a clean install, you'd need your seri

 Thanks.al number or it would turn into demo mode.

On 9/8/2017 9:55 AM, Loy via Talk wrote:

If you use a purchased fully downloaded copy of WE  or a CD that copy will have 
the Serial number included in the installation copy and there is not an 
activation. If you are talking about the Free for office version, I don't know 
how this was activated. But purchased copies never had to be activated, you 
could install on as many computers as you wish. WE is no longer sold, 
supported, updated.
   - Original Message -
   From: brice Mijares via Talk
   To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
   Cc: brice Mijares
   Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:44 PM
   Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes


   If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person would
   still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't this
   correct?

   On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]

 wrote:
   > Hi Loy,
   >
   > Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be 
okay for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was no longer 
being developed.
   > I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore, 
infringement of copyright to let someone else use it.
   >
   > Thanks,
   >
   > Rod
   >
   > -Original Message-
   > From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of 
Loy via Talk
   > Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
   > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
   > Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
   > Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
   >
   > If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some 
countries you had to have a dongle.
   >- Original Message -
   >From: Rod Hutton via Talk
   >To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   >Cc: Rod Hutton
   >    Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
   >Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes
   >
   >
   >Hi Loy,
   >
   >If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
   >I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
   >If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.
   >
   >Best,
   >
   >Rod
   >
   >-Original Message-
   >From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of 
Loy via Talk
   >Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
   >    To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
   >Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
   >Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
   >
   >There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a 
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone else then 
you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or developed then using 
some one else's copy would not matter.
   >  - Original Message -
   >  From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
   >      To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   >  Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
   >  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
   >  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes
   >
   >
   >  And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?
   >
   >  -Original Message-
   >  From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of 
aad leeflang via Talk
   >  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
   >  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   >  Cc: aad leeflang
   >  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
   >
   >  ok thanks
   >  i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than 
9.0.
   >  i downloadee most versions.
   >  but how do i get a more acurate version though?
   >  or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
   >  i guess not.
   >  aad
   >  On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
   >  Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
   >
   >  > Hi Aad,
   >  >
   >  > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at 
least version 9.2.
   >  >
   >  > Hth,
   >  >
   >  > Rod
   >  >
   >  > -Original Message-
   >  > From: Talk
   >  > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On
   >  > Behalf Of aad leeflang via

RE: question about re installing wineyes

Hi Loy,

Okay, thanks for the clarification.
I see where you're going, or coming from, at least. (smile)
As for the Office version of WE, as far as I know, WE detects whether Office 
2010 or later is present on the system and self-activates.
Apart from this, the only activation required would be the synthesizer voices 
which users bought separately.

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 12:17 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

It might not be legal, but if you bought WE and they won't provide a copy for 
you I don't see why you could not use  another copy.
  - iginal Message - 
  From: Rod Hutton via Talk 
  Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Cc: Rod Hutton 
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:57 AM
  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


  Hi Loy,

  Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be okay 
for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was no longer 
being developed.
  I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore, infringement 
of copyright to let someone else use it.

  Thanks,

  Rod

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Loy via Talk
  Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
  Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

  If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some countries 
you had to have a dongle.
- Original Message - 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk 
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
    Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


Hi Loy,

If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

Best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of 
Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a 
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone else 
then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or developed then 
using some one else's copy would not matter.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk 
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA 
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


  And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of aad leeflang via Talk
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
      Cc: aad leeflang
  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

  ok thanks
  i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than 9.0.
  i downloadee most versions.
  but how do i get a more acurate version though?
  or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
  i guess not.
  aad
  On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
  Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

  > Hi Aad,
  > 
  > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least 
version 9.2.
  > 
  > Hth,
  > 
  > Rod
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Talk 
  > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
  > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
  > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
  > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
  > Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
  > Subject: question about re installing wineyes
  > 
  > hello all
  > i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
  > i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it does 
  > not work under windows 10.
  > i had the cd version 9.0.
  > is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so that 
  > i re install it?
  > there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and could 
  > work better with window eyes.

Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you use a purchased fully downloaded copy of WE  or a CD that copy will have 
the Serial number included in the installation copy and there is not an 
activation. If you are talking about the Free for office version, I don't know 
how this was activated. But purchased copies never had to be activated, you 
could install on as many computers as you wish. WE is no longer sold, 
supported, updated.
  - Original Message - 
  From: brice Mijares via Talk 
  To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com 
  Cc: brice Mijares 
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:44 PM
  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes


  If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person would 
  still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't this 
  correct?

  On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]

wrote:
  > Hi Loy,
  > 
  > Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be okay 
for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was no longer 
being developed.
  > I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore, infringement 
of copyright to let someone else use it.
  > 
  > Thanks,
  > 
  > Rod
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of 
Loy via Talk
  > Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
  > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
  > Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
  > Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
  > 
  > If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some 
countries you had to have a dongle.
  >- Original Message -
  >From: Rod Hutton via Talk
  >To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >Cc: Rod Hutton
  >    Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
  >Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes
  > 
  > 
  >Hi Loy,
  > 
  >If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
  >I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
  >If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.
  > 
  >Best,
  > 
  >Rod
  > 
  >-Original Message-
  >From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of 
Loy via Talk
  >Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
  >    To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
  >Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
  >Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
  > 
  >There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a 
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone else 
then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or developed then 
using some one else's copy would not matter.
  >  - Original Message -
  >  From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
  >      To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >  Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
  >  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
  >  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes
  > 
  > 
  >  And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?
  > 
  >  -Original Message-
  >  From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of aad leeflang via Talk
  >  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
  >  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >  Cc: aad leeflang
  >  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes
  > 
  >  ok thanks
  >  i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than 
9.0.
  >  i downloadee most versions.
  >  but how do i get a more acurate version though?
  >  or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
  >  i guess not.
  >  aad
  >  On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
  >  Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
  > 
  >  > Hi Aad,
  >  >
  >  > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least 
version 9.2.
  >  >
  >  > Hth,
  >  >
  >  > Rod
  >  >
  >  > -Original Message-
  >  > From: Talk
  >  > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
  >  > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
  >  > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
  >  > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
  >  > Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
  >  > Subject: question about re installing wineyes
  >  >
  >  > hello all
  >  > i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
  >  > i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it does
  >  > not work under windo

Re: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-08 Thread brice Mijares via Talk

If I sent someone a copy of my last installation copy, that person would 
still need an activation code or it would go into demo mode. Isn't this 
correct?


On 9/8/2017 8:57 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk]

 wrote:

Hi Loy,

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be okay for 
someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was no longer being 
developed.
I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore, infringement of 
copyright to let someone else use it.

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some countries 
you had to have a dongle.
   - Original Message -
   From: Rod Hutton via Talk
   To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Cc: Rod Hutton
   Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
   Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


   Hi Loy,

   If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
   I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
   If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

   Best,

   Rod

   -Original Message-
   From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of 
Loy via Talk
   Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
   To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
   Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
   Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

   There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a 
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone else 
then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or developed then 
using some one else's copy would not matter.
 - Original Message -
 From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA
 Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
     Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


 And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

 -Original Message-
 From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of aad leeflang via Talk
 Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Cc: aad leeflang
     Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

 ok thanks
 i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than 9.0.
 i downloadee most versions.
 but how do i get a more acurate version though?
 or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
 i guess not.
 aad
 On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
 Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

 > Hi Aad,
 >
 > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least 
version 9.2.
 >
 > Hth,
 >
 > Rod
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: Talk
 > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
 > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
 > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
 > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 > Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
 > Subject: question about re installing wineyes
 >
 > hello all
 > i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
 > i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it does
 > not work under windows 10.
 > i had the cd version 9.0.
 > is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so that
 > i re install it?
 > there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and could
 > work better with window eyes.
 > anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws sould be
 > better tan window eyes anyway.
 > aad
 >
 > ___
 > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the 
author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
 >
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http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com.
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Re: question about re installing wineyes

It might not be legal, but if you bought WE and they won't provide a copy for 
you I don't see why you could not use  another copy.
  - iginal Message - 
  From: Rod Hutton via Talk 
  Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Cc: Rod Hutton 
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:57 AM
  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


  Hi Loy,

  Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be okay 
for someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was no longer 
being developed.
  I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore, infringement 
of copyright to let someone else use it.

  Thanks,

  Rod

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Loy via Talk
  Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
  Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

  If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some countries 
you had to have a dongle.
- Original Message - 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk 
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
    Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


Hi Loy,

If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

Best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of 
Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a 
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone else 
then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or developed then 
using some one else's copy would not matter.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk 
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA 
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
      Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


  And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of aad leeflang via Talk
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Cc: aad leeflang
      Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

  ok thanks
  i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than 9.0.
  i downloadee most versions.
  but how do i get a more acurate version though?
  or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
  i guess not.
  aad
  On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
  Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

  > Hi Aad,
  > 
  > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least 
version 9.2.
  > 
  > Hth,
  > 
  > Rod
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Talk 
  > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
  > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
  > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
  > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
  > Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
  > Subject: question about re installing wineyes
  > 
  > hello all
  > i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
  > i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it does 
  > not work under windows 10.
  > i had the cd version 9.0.
  > is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so that 
  > i re install it?
  > there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and could 
  > work better with window eyes.
  > anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws sould be 
  > better tan window eyes anyway.
  > aad
  > 
  > ___
  > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the 
author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
  > 
  > For membership options, visit 
http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com.
  > For subscription options, visit 
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RE: question about re installing wineyes

Hi Loy,

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I was referring to why you thought it would be okay for 
someone to use someone else's copy of WE simply because it was no longer being 
developed.
I would think it is still the property of VFO, and, therefore, infringement of 
copyright to let someone else use it.

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some countries 
you had to have a dongle.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rod Hutton via Talk 
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Cc: Rod Hutton 
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


  Hi Loy,

  If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
  I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
  If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

  Best,

  Rod

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Loy via Talk
  Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
  Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

  There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a 
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone else 
then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or developed then 
using some one else's copy would not matter.
- Original Message - 
From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk 
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA 
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
    Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of aad leeflang via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: aad leeflang
    Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

ok thanks
i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than 9.0.
i downloadee most versions.
but how do i get a more acurate version though?
or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
i guess not.
aad
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hi Aad,
> 
> In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least 
version 9.2.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
> Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
> Subject: question about re installing wineyes
> 
> hello all
> i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
> i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it does 
> not work under windows 10.
> i had the cd version 9.0.
> is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so that 
> i re install it?
> there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and could 
> work better with window eyes.
> anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws sould be 
> better tan window eyes anyway.
> aad
> 
> ___
> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the 
author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
> 
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Re: question about re installing wineyes

If you are in the US, you never had to activate WE. I think in some countries 
you had to have a dongle.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rod Hutton via Talk 
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Cc: Rod Hutton 
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:01 AM
  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


  Hi Loy,

  If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
  I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
  If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

  Best,

  Rod

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Loy via Talk
  Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
  Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

  There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a 
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone else 
then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or developed then 
using some one else's copy would not matter.
- Original Message - 
From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk 
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA 
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
    Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes


And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of aad leeflang via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: aad leeflang
    Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

ok thanks
i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than 9.0.
i downloadee most versions.
but how do i get a more acurate version though?
or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
i guess not.
aad
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hi Aad,
> 
> In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least 
version 9.2.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
> Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
> Subject: question about re installing wineyes
> 
> hello all
> i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
> i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it does 
> not work under windows 10.
> i had the cd version 9.0.
> is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so that 
> i re install it?
> there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and could 
> work better with window eyes.
> anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws sould be 
> better tan window eyes anyway.
> aad
> 
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RE: question about re installing wineyes

Hi Loy,

If you truly know this, then, that's fine.
I don't feel as certain about this as you seem to be.
If you can explain this a bit, I'd appreciate it.

Best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 10:40 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a 
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone else 
then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or developed then 
using some one else's copy would not matter.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk 
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA 
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

  And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of aad leeflang via Talk
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Cc: aad leeflang
  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

  ok thanks
  i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than 9.0.
  i downloadee most versions.
  but how do i get a more acurate version though?
  or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
  i guess not.
  aad
  On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
  Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

  > Hi Aad,
  > 
  > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least 
version 9.2.
  > 
  > Hth,
  > 
  > Rod
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Talk 
  > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
  > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
  > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
  > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
  > Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
  > Subject: question about re installing wineyes
  > 
  > hello all
  > i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
  > i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it does 
  > not work under windows 10.
  > i had the cd version 9.0.
  > is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so that 
  > i re install it?
  > there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and could 
  > work better with window eyes.
  > anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws sould be 
  > better tan window eyes anyway.
  > aad
  > 
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Re: question about re installing wineyes

There has never been an online activation. I doubt that you can get a 
downloadable copy from VFO now, but if you can get a copy from someone else 
then you could install it. Being it is no longer being sold or developed then 
using some one else's copy would not matter.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk 
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA 
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 10:24 AM
  Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes

  And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of aad leeflang via Talk
  Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Cc: aad leeflang
  Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

  ok thanks
  i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than 9.0.
  i downloadee most versions.
  but how do i get a more acurate version though?
  or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
  i guess not.
  aad
  On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
  Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

  > Hi Aad,
  > 
  > In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least 
version 9.2.
  > 
  > Hth,
  > 
  > Rod
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Talk 
  > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
  > Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
  > Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
  > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
  > Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
  > Subject: question about re installing wineyes
  > 
  > hello all
  > i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
  > i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it does 
  > not work under windows 10.
  > i had the cd version 9.0.
  > is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so that 
  > i re install it?
  > there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and could 
  > work better with window eyes.
  > anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws sould be 
  > better tan window eyes anyway.
  > aad
  > 
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RE: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-08 Thread Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk

And then after installation of WE how about the online activation?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:07 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: aad leeflang
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

ok thanks
i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than 9.0.
i downloadee most versions.
but how do i get a more acurate version though?
or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
i guess not.
aad
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hi Aad,
> 
> In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least version 
> 9.2.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
> Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
> Subject: question about re installing wineyes
> 
> hello all
> i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
> i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it does 
> not work under windows 10.
> i had the cd version 9.0.
> is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so that 
> i re install it?
> there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and could 
> work better with window eyes.
> anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws sould be 
> better tan window eyes anyway.
> aad
> 
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RE: question about re installing wineyes

Hi Aad,

Now that Window-Eyes is no longer being supported, I'm not certain whether VFO 
would prepare a download of Window-Eyes for you, but this is how most of us 
prepared for the day when Window-Eyes would no longer be available.

Best,

Rod

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On Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 6:07 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
Subject: Re: question about re installing wineyes

ok thanks
i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than
9.0.
i downloadee most versions.
but how do i get a more acurate version though?
or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
i guess not.
aad
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Hi Aad,
> 
> In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least version 
> 9.2.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
> Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Cc: aad leeflang <a...@tripledutch.info>
> Subject: question about re installing wineyes
> 
> hello all
> i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
> i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it does not
> work under windows 10.
> i had the cd version 9.0.
> is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so that i
> re install it?
> there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and could
> work better with window eyes.
> anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws sould be
> better tan window eyes anyway.
> aad
> 
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Re: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-08 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk

If 9.0 installed but doesn't work I'd try installing we92upgrade.exe. 
Then reboot a couple times and install the latest upgrade executable.

Hth,
Tom


On 9/8/2017 6:06 AM, aad leeflang via Talk wrote:

ok thanks
i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than
9.0.
i downloadee most versions.
but how do i get a more acurate version though?
or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
i guess not.
aad
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
Rod Hutton via Talk  wrote:


Hi Aad,

In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least version 
9.2.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Cc: aad leeflang 
Subject: question about re installing wineyes

hello all
i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it does not
work under windows 10.
i had the cd version 9.0.
is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so that i
re install it?
there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and could
work better with window eyes.
anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws sould be
better tan window eyes anyway.
aad

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Re: question about re installing wineyes

2017-09-08 Thread aad leeflang via Talk

ok thanks
i used window eyes 9.4 on my old pc but i did not get a cd newer than
9.0.
i downloadee most versions.
but how do i get a more acurate version though?
or is there a way to copy the files from my old pc to my new pc.
i guess not.
aad
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 09:46:16 +
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> Hi Aad,
> 
> In order to install Window-Eyes for Windows 10, you require at least version 
> 9.2.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
> Sent: September 8, 2017 5:15 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Cc: aad leeflang 
> Subject: question about re installing wineyes
> 
> hello all
> i have moved to a new pc with windows 10.
> i wanted to re-install window eyes but i get a message that it does not
> work under windows 10.
> i had the cd version 9.0.
> is there a way to get an fresh installation cd for window eyes so that i
> re install it?
> there are still some issues with jaws that don't work well and could
> work better with window eyes.
> anyway i still don't understand why people think that jaws sould be
> better tan window eyes anyway.
> aad
> 
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RE: question about re installing wineyes