Re: still selling it and still using it

2016-12-02 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk 
To make Window-Eyes work better with tablets, it needs to support touch 
screen.


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From: Marcie Brink-Chaney via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 2:52 PM
To: Carol and Roger ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: still selling it and still using it

I really think people are making mountains out of mole hills. I just got 
fusion for my students to learn because most of them have low vision and 
this program is a combination of the best of two great programs Window Eyes 
and Zoom YText. If Magic and Jaws are so great, why isn't Fs developed a 
combination product like fusion? I think this makes a case for Window Eyes. 
WE works well with tablets and you don't think Microsoft didn't give he 
micro something for the deal for WE to be free? And why was it WE?

I've finished and will now get off my soap box.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:


Personally, I feel that the program is not dead as long as I can use it on 
my PC.  It would be nice to have continuing support and so long as there is 
a talk list, I think we should be able to share information between us and 
keep Window-Eyes alive.  There is enough negativism around without trying to 
stir up extra and, of course, this is just my opinion, but I will continue 
to use the program as I have been using some form of Window-Eyes/Vocalize 
product since the late 80s.


Carol

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Re: still selling it and still using it

2016-12-01 Thread Kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk 
Thats is good news too hear. I do think that window-eyes and the shark 
do have similar features. What would be neat is if some of the features 
in jaws could be merged in to window-eyes.


Kenny Peyatt jr.


On 12/1/2016 9:15 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:

Hi there again!

As I stated in an earlier message, I don't believe W.E. is going 
anywhere soon.  Since I have gotten hold of two living breathing 
people in Tec Support in the last two weeks and they have heard 
nothing about Windoe-Eyes going anywhere either.  Why don't we justr 
wait and see what actually happens.  In any event, Window-Eyes is 
working great for me and as long as it does I will continue to use 
it!  Just my 2-sense worth for whatever that's worth..? Catch Ya 
Later! de .



On 01-Dec-16 18:22, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
Of course they'll take our money but realistically it ain't looking 
good. I

spent my own money to buy fusion and i plan to use it until it breaks.
Signs ain't pointing to long life. What was one of the big new 
features of

jaws 18?  That jaws and zoomtext will work better together. Give you
another one. After 20 years, now fs puts in the ability to use the 
physical

mouse into jaws. You can call it stirring rumors if you want but in
combination with staff from both the old gw and ai2 leaving, the 
dealers of

ai2 and gw products being cut off and lack of updates that at least for
fusion were supposed to happen months ago  realism is the road i'm 
taking.



"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised
night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho

Reeva

On Dec 1, 2016 4:52 PM, "Marcie Brink-Chaney via Talk" <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

I really think people are making mountains out of mole hills. I just 
got
fusion for my students to learn because most of them have low vision 
and
this program is a combination of the best of two great programs 
Window Eyes
and Zoom YText. If Magic and Jaws are so great, why isn't Fs 
developed a
combination product like fusion? I think this makes a case for 
Window Eyes.

WE works well with tablets and you don't think Microsoft didn't give he
micro something for the deal for WE to be free? And why was it WE?
I've finished and will now get off my soap box.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

Personally, I feel that the program is not dead as long as I can use 
it on
my PC.  It would be nice to have continuing support and so long as 
there is
a talk list, I think we should be able to share information between 
us and
keep Window-Eyes alive.  There is enough negativism around without 
trying

to stir up extra and, of course, this is just my opinion, but I will
continue to use the program as I have been using some form of
Window-Eyes/Vocalize product since the late 80s.

Carol

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Re: still selling it and still using it

2016-12-01 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk 
It depends on what going anywhere means.  Does it mean anywhere as no 
new updates, no new scripts, and so forth?  As long as microsoft puts 
it free with office, it may sort of be somewhere.  Of course freedom 
will take your money.  I trusted gw micro, 	 don't trust freedom. 
Worse thing for them is eventually they say "we decided not to do any 
more updates, here is your money back."  "Thanks for the use of it 
interest free."  Lets be real, do you really think they'll keep two 
screen readers on the market.  Do you think they want to support two 
different products with different features?  It is what it is, and there 
isn't one thing we can do about it, but it is still sad.  And, why 
wouldn't they sell you a new copy for $900 if you are willing.

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Thu, 1 
Dec 2016, Jim via Talk wrote:



Hi there again!

As I stated in an earlier message, I don't believe W.E. is going anywhere 
soon.  Since I have gotten hold of two living breathing people in Tec Support 
in the last two weeks and they have heard nothing about Windoe-Eyes going 
anywhere either.  Why don't we justr wait and see what actually happens.  In 
any event, Window-Eyes is working great for me and as long as it does I will 
continue to use it!  Just my 2-sense worth for whatever that's worth..? Catch 
Ya Later! de .



On 01-Dec-16 18:22, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:

 Of course they'll take our money but realistically it ain't looking good.
 I
 spent my own money to buy fusion and i plan to use it until it breaks.
 Signs ain't pointing to long life. What was one of the big new features of
 jaws 18?  That jaws and zoomtext will work better together. Give you
 another one. After 20 years, now fs puts in the ability to use the
 physical
 mouse into jaws. You can call it stirring rumors if you want but in
 combination with staff from both the old gw and ai2 leaving, the dealers
 of
 ai2 and gw products being cut off and lack of updates that at least for
 fusion were supposed to happen months ago  realism is the road i'm taking.


 "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised
 night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho

 Reeva

 On Dec 1, 2016 4:52 PM, "Marcie Brink-Chaney via Talk" <
 talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

>  I really think people are making mountains out of mole hills. I just got
>  fusion for my students to learn because most of them have low vision and
>  this program is a combination of the best of two great programs Window 
>  Eyes

>  and Zoom YText. If Magic and Jaws are so great, why isn't Fs developed a
>  combination product like fusion? I think this makes a case for Window 
>  Eyes.

>  WE works well with tablets and you don't think Microsoft didn't give he
>  micro something for the deal for WE to be free? And why was it WE?
>  I've finished and will now get off my soap box.
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
>  On Dec 1, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk <

>  talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
>  Personally, I feel that the program is not dead as long as I can use it 
>  on
>  my PC.  It would be nice to have continuing support and so long as there 
>  is
>  a talk list, I think we should be able to share information between us 
>  and
>  keep Window-Eyes alive.  There is enough negativism around without 
>  trying

>  to stir up extra and, of course, this is just my opinion, but I will
>  continue to use the program as I have been using some form of
>  Window-Eyes/Vocalize product since the late 80s.
> 
>  Carol
> 
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Re: still selling it and still using it

2016-12-01 Thread Jim via Talk 

Hi there again!

As I stated in an earlier message, I don't believe W.E. is going 
anywhere soon.  Since I have gotten hold of two living breathing people 
in Tec Support in the last two weeks and they have heard nothing about 
Windoe-Eyes going anywhere either.  Why don't we justr wait and see what 
actually happens.  In any event, Window-Eyes is working great for me and 
as long as it does I will continue to use it!  Just my 2-sense worth for 
whatever that's worth..? Catch Ya Later! de .



On 01-Dec-16 18:22, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:

Of course they'll take our money but realistically it ain't looking good. I
spent my own money to buy fusion and i plan to use it until it breaks.
Signs ain't pointing to long life. What was one of the big new features of
jaws 18?  That jaws and zoomtext will work better together. Give you
another one. After 20 years, now fs puts in the ability to use the physical
mouse into jaws. You can call it stirring rumors if you want but in
combination with staff from both the old gw and ai2 leaving, the dealers of
ai2 and gw products being cut off and lack of updates that at least for
fusion were supposed to happen months ago  realism is the road i'm taking.


"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised
night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho

Reeva

On Dec 1, 2016 4:52 PM, "Marcie Brink-Chaney via Talk" <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:


I really think people are making mountains out of mole hills. I just got
fusion for my students to learn because most of them have low vision and
this program is a combination of the best of two great programs Window Eyes
and Zoom YText. If Magic and Jaws are so great, why isn't Fs developed a
combination product like fusion? I think this makes a case for Window Eyes.
WE works well with tablets and you don't think Microsoft didn't give he
micro something for the deal for WE to be free? And why was it WE?
I've finished and will now get off my soap box.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

Personally, I feel that the program is not dead as long as I can use it on
my PC.  It would be nice to have continuing support and so long as there is
a talk list, I think we should be able to share information between us and
keep Window-Eyes alive.  There is enough negativism around without trying
to stir up extra and, of course, this is just my opinion, but I will
continue to use the program as I have been using some form of
Window-Eyes/Vocalize product since the late 80s.

Carol

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Re: still selling it and still using it

2016-12-01 Thread Marcie Brink-Chaney via Talk 
I really think people are making mountains out of mole hills. I just got fusion 
for my students to learn because most of them have low vision and this program 
is a combination of the best of two great programs Window Eyes and Zoom YText. 
If Magic and Jaws are so great, why isn't Fs developed a combination product 
like fusion? I think this makes a case for Window Eyes. WE works well with 
tablets and you don't think Microsoft didn't give he micro something for the 
deal for WE to be free? And why was it WE?
I've finished and will now get off my soap box.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk 
 wrote:

Personally, I feel that the program is not dead as long as I can use it on my 
PC.  It would be nice to have continuing support and so long as there is a talk 
list, I think we should be able to share information between us and keep 
Window-Eyes alive.  There is enough negativism around without trying to stir up 
extra and, of course, this is just my opinion, but I will continue to use the 
program as I have been using some form of Window-Eyes/Vocalize product since 
the late 80s.

Carol

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Re: still selling it and still using it

2016-12-01 Thread Carol and Roger via Talk 
Personally, I feel that the program is not dead as long as I can use it 
on my PC.  It would be nice to have continuing support and so long as 
there is a talk list, I think we should be able to share information 
between us and keep Window-Eyes alive.  There is enough negativism 
around without trying to stir up extra and, of course, this is just my 
opinion, but I will continue to use the program as I have been using 
some form of Window-Eyes/Vocalize product since the late 80s.


Carol

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still selling it

2016-12-01 Thread Don H via Talk 
Whether this is long term good news or not I don't know but if you call 
AI squared they are still selling the full version of Window Eyes for $895.

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