Re: [OSM-talk] Viewing pre-redaction OSM tiles?

2016-07-14 Thread Marc Gemis
Do you mean Martijn van Excel's "Now and Then" ? https://mvexel.github.io/thenandnow/#10/52.2644/5.2899 It does has a slider, but it compares 2007 with now. regards m On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 9:42 PM, Michał Brzozowski wrote: > I am not. I just don't want to say "guilty" prematurely. It's a syst

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-08 Thread Marc Gemis
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: >> - add an external ID to OSM. This would be analogue to the current wikidata >> tag. It's better not to add external IDs to OSM. It would be OK if there is only 1 project in the world that would do this, but if every pet project will start do

Re: [OSM-talk] combining nodes with ways

2016-08-11 Thread Marc Gemis
As far as I know you cannot know the extend of "wonderland" until you asked all people in Wonderland what their postcode is. "Wonderland" or ZIP-code "area" is only defined by the post, and does not match any administrative boundary. This is the case for Canada, US and UK. Unlike Belgium or Germany

Re: [OSM-talk] combining nodes with ways

2016-08-11 Thread Marc Gemis
But then you remove the node. I had the impression the OP wanted to keep the POI node, but copy/move address information onto the building. You can easily copy all tags from one object to another, (select first, select target, shift-R), but then you also copy the POI tags, not only the address info

Re: [OSM-talk] Spoken street names

2016-08-17 Thread Marc Gemis
There is also Mapfactor Navigator [1], they do have a free version as well.I didn't like their "announcements" for highway exists as much as OsmAnd's. m [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mapfactor.navigator&hl=en p.s. I find spoken street names not so interesting. In Belgium

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Marc Gemis
I'm now trying to clean up the wikidata / wikipedia tags on administrative boundaries in Belgium. One of the problems seems that nyuriks automatically (?) added wikidata tags [1] without making sure the wikipedia tags were placed correctly in OSM. And now that same person asks to help him clean u

Re: [OSM-talk] Lots of small copies of existing relations

2017-01-11 Thread Marc Gemis
For the changeset discussion: go to http://www.hdyc.neis-one.org/? (fill in your osm name behind the question mark). there you find links behind "Changeset discussions:" and "Discussed changesets". The former is for the ones you participated in, the latter for comments on your own changesets.

Re: [OSM-talk] Disputed border between Greece and Turkey near Imia/Kardak in the Aegean Sea (was: Re: [Geocoding] Boundries of Kardak Islands)

2017-03-30 Thread Marc Gemis
On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 6:39 AM, David Marchal wrote: > If I correctly remember, in such cases, both point of views should be used; > in this case, two boundary segments should be dragged: one including the > islets with Greece, and the other one including them with Turkey. The rule is that borde

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-26 Thread Marc Gemis
In some countries you have to place bicycle=use_sidepath on the main road when you map a separate cycleway. This is done to indicate that you are supposed to ride on the cycleway, but may use the main road to access e.g. houses on the opposite side. In such a case it make no sense to also keep cyc

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-27 Thread Marc Gemis
Just curious, do you apply the same arguments to map separate sidewalks and sidewalks separate from cycle ways ? Or are there reasons to treat sidewalk differently ? m On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2017-04-27 9:19 GMT+02:00 joost schouppe : >> >> So not all of

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-28 Thread Marc Gemis
about cycleways). m. On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 7:58 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: >> >> Just curious, do you apply the same arguments to map separate >> sidewalks and sidewalks separate from cycle ways ? Or are there >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

2017-05-11 Thread Marc Gemis
So would a stop sign / give way sign /traffic signal then be mapped as stop_position: node where on the street does one have to stop/give way/wait for traffic signal sign : node (optional) the exact location of the sign from: the way one is following to which the action has to be applied (is this

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

2017-05-11 Thread Marc Gemis
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> to: the collection of ways one can travel to after stopping/giving >> way/waiting for traffic signal. This would include the from way so >> u-turns have to obey the sign/signal as well. > > > Yes. At a minimum, a stop, give_way, traffic_si

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

2017-05-11 Thread Marc Gemis
ok, multiple from in a relation will solve this. Isn't it a problem that some "from"s do not end in some "intersection"s ? On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 1:28 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: >> >> On Fri

Re: [OSM-talk] Time-based attributes

2017-06-02 Thread Marc Gemis
There is an old proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/temporary I guess without any support from data consumers. m. On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:59 AM, MonkZ wrote: > Hi, > > are there things like attribute values that change over time? > > Like this, to indicate a value ch

Re: [OSM-talk] Street Complete

2017-06-02 Thread Marc Gemis
Assuming the author(s) of the app is on this list. The app was mentioned for the first time on the forum (perhaps here [1]), so the author might be more familiar with that communication channel. m. [1] https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=56582 (December 1, 2016) On Fri, Jun 2, 2017

Re: [OSM-talk] Street Complete

2017-06-02 Thread Marc Gemis
On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > If you promote an editor that affects OSM data, you need to be responsive to > the OSM community. That means monitoring the communication channels favoured > by the OSM community and being prepared to respond to them. You cannot just > de

Re: [OSM-talk] "NRCS basic OSM training" - low quality changesets in Nepal

2017-06-22 Thread Marc Gemis
So Warin's proposal should use +, not dot. With plus you can append anything, with dot the other characters should remain the same. m Op 23 jun. 2017 00:54 schreef "Éric Gillet" : 2017-06-23 0:34 GMT+02:00 Nicolás Alvarez : > > Ben .. you could try, say, bdiscoe@gmail.com and > bdiscoe.old.

[OSM-talk] Mapper of the month series

2017-07-18 Thread Marc Gemis
As you might now, the Belgian community has a series of interviews with mappers from all over the world. This time we have a Canadian: Jamie Nadeau en: http://www.osm.be/2017/07/18/en-motm-jamie_nadeau.html fr: http://www.osm.be/2017/07/18/fr-motm-jamie_nadeau.html nl: http://www.osm.be/2017/07/18

Re: [OSM-talk] An import in New Zealand, assistance requested

2017-08-15 Thread Marc Gemis
Isn't this something for the Data Working Group: d...@osmfoundation.org ? regards m On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:10 AM, Robin Paulson wrote: > Before I ask for assistance, please note this: I've already brought > this up on osm-imports and got nowhere useful. > > There are a number of users in NZ

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-19 Thread Marc Gemis
As you can see from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway:International_equivalence, trunk roads are defined differently in many countries. If you look at e.g. Denmark, a trunk road needs a special sign. Those signs typically come with some rules and permissions (e.g. higher speed allowed, no

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-20 Thread Marc Gemis
> So basically: please don't go adjusting roads in the US away from > established rough consensus because you think it ought to be different. or anywhere else I would say :-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/l

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-22 Thread Marc Gemis
Did you try with e.g. MapFactor Navigator, which has settings for your preference of 8 road categories + maxspeed inside & outside towns ? Just being curious. regards m On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > On 22/08/17 11:41, Colin Smale wrote: >> I agree, classification shoul

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-22 Thread Marc Gemis
> >> maxspeed:practical should take dense account or traffic jams into >> account as good as possible. So far I am not aware of any router >> evaluating time based conditional restrictions but those could be >> used to take rush hours somewhat into account. > > Agreed. Or even live traffic. But I

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-20 Thread Marc Gemis
As for the Faroer Islands (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4628) I see some contradicting information there.The labels refer to an archipelago, while the "is a" statement refers to an administrative part of Denmark. When an item has only 1 "is a" statement, it is not possible to refer to 2 differen

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-25 Thread Marc Gemis
> moving it here. I believe I acted in good faith according to the mechanical > edit policy - discussed with the community, and proceeded. I believe the mechanical edit polity demands that you discuss with the *local* community. That means if your edit modifies items in e.g. Mexico, Belgium and J

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-25 Thread Marc Gemis
what about a Maproulette task ? On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:11 AM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > At the moment, there are nearly 40,000 OSM objects whose wikipedia tag does > not match their wikidata tag. Most of them are Wikipedia redirects, whose > target is the right wikipedia article. If we are not r

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-25 Thread Marc Gemis
or via Osmose ? On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > what about a Maproulette task ? > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:11 AM, Yuri Astrakhan > wrote: >> At the moment, there are nearly 40,000 OSM objects whose wikipedia tag does >> not match their wikida

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-25 Thread Marc Gemis
ecision making. This would improve contributors morale, > instead of making them feel like robots :) > > Clarifying: the OSM objects already point to those pages via redirect. The > redirect information is only stored in Wikipedia. > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:18 PM, Marc Gemis wrote

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-26 Thread Marc Gemis
programmers project, it's about people, not software :-) On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 26 September 2017 at 04:14, Marc Gemis wrote: > >> I believe the mechanical edit polity demands that you discuss with the >> *local* community. That means if y

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-26 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: > That's simply rubbish. Tags on an OSM object describe it in the real world. > They should be verifiable. Whether an OSM object has a wikidata tag on it > is essentially irrelevant as far as OSM is concerned - it's just a primary > key into

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Marc Gemis
I fail to understand how an external database can link to an OSM location in case we do not allow foreign keys. I know there is some vague "find something with a name similar to X in some area Y" kind of strategy, but did somebody ever implemented such a thing ? I doubt that "area Y" is always know

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Marc Gemis
> > Can anyone think of an example where two unrelated brands share the same > name and category of business in the same geographical area? Is "the same geographical area" relevant ? Why should a data consumer use a separate datebase to identify the brand of an item ? Suppose I want to find all "

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-27 Thread Marc Gemis
So you do not agree with the Automated Edits code of conduct ? If an automated edit takes place in a country, why do you expect that that community follows the talk mailing list or even speak English ? People has the right to know that some stranger starts making changes in their area without being

Re: [OSM-talk] Links from wiki* back into OSM (was: Overlapping brands)

2017-09-28 Thread Marc Gemis
Andy are you now saying that it is OK to have 1 wikidata tag on each street, so someone can create an external list of streets with Wikidata ids to represent some kind of collection (like "all streets named after Leuven") ? m. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 28/09/201

Re: [OSM-talk] Links from wiki* back into OSM

2017-09-28 Thread Marc Gemis
true that each Wikipedia article (or page) has a Wikidata entry, but not the other way around. regards m On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 28/09/2017 10:36, Marc Gemis wrote: >> >> Andy are you now saying that it is OK to have 1 wikidata tag on each >&g

Re: [OSM-talk] Links from wiki* back into OSM

2017-09-28 Thread Marc Gemis
O, I even believe that e.g. all (or a large number of) Dutch streets are in Wikidata without having a Wikipedia article for the individual streets. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > Thanks for explaining, Andy. > > Please note that as I said before, it is not true t

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-10-01 Thread Marc Gemis
> Wikipedia is based on secondary sources, it rejects original research. > OSM is fundamentally different in that because it is based on > verification by original research. I'm trying to understand this. If I noticed an inception date on a information sign next to a building, is this original re

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

2017-10-16 Thread Marc Gemis
Would Yuri's tool be OK, if the proposed changes were limited to objects that were created/last edited after survey to the person that is using the tool ? I was thinking of a scenario where people try to help with a tag-renaming proposal. Such a tool would be handy to help them locate all objects

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

2017-10-16 Thread Marc Gemis
I was thinking about possible changes to the tool that would make it a useful tool for the community, and at the same time not violating any policy. On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Monday 16 October 2017, Marc Gemis wrote: >> Would Yuri's tool

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-10-25 Thread Marc Gemis
Please tell me where the wikipedia link is in e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q37344570 :-) Wikidata does not have to be a bunch of links to wikipedia articles. It has references to 2 external DBs (ODIS & Onroerend erfgoed), so it should be considered notable. I have no idea how many bad item

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

2017-11-02 Thread Marc Gemis
The current situation is not helping in producing useful maps. Too often I find myself in a residential area with large gardens and trees when I expected to find a real forest based on what OSM is displaying. So there is room for improvement. I like the landcover=trees idea, but this does not des

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

2017-11-02 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 02-Nov-17 08:58 PM, Tomas Straupis wrote: >> >> 2017-11-02 11:24 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis wrote: >>> >>> The current situation is not helping in producing useful maps. Too >>>

Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

2017-11-20 Thread Marc Gemis
The possibility to work more locally. E.g. there is a project to add missing roads in Belgium, I would really like to see only the "issues" within let say 20km of my house (an arbitrary point I can set). m. On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi all, > > For those who have

Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

2017-11-20 Thread Marc Gemis
this yet. One solution would be to filter by challenge > ‘centroids’ (simple), another would be to consider whatever challenge has at > least one task within the current map bounds (harder). What would be your > idea about this? Others with an opinion? > -- > Martijn van Exel

Re: [OSM-talk] no osmf-talk link at listinfo

2017-12-19 Thread Marc Gemis
It's listed on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists Just click on the "archive" link there to access it (read-only of course) as a non OSMF member. m. On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 4:19 AM, Sérgio V. wrote: > Of course I understand, and support, that sending emails to OSMF-talk is > onl

Re: [OSM-talk] Tool for tag tracking

2018-01-11 Thread Marc Gemis
Oleksiy, Is your planned tool similar to : http://tagfinder.herokuapp.com/ ? m. On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: > I work on a tool to view a certain tag on the map for a non-programmer, for > those who do not speak English (a language could be selected in the upper > wr

Re: [OSM-talk] diversity-talk: No such list

2018-02-21 Thread Marc Gemis
I know of at least 1 person that got banned from the tagging mailing list for 2 weeks or so for using inappropriate language. regards m. On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 1:48 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 20. Feb 2018, at 02:50, Kate Chapman wrote: >> >> If someone want

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-24 Thread Marc Gemis
FYI The unisex tag is also used as a shorthand for female=yes, male=yes on shop=hairdresser [1] . Giving it another meaning on toilets might cause extra confusion. regards m [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop=hairdresser Op di 24 apr. 2018 18:27 schreef Rory McCann : > Hi all,

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalk symmetry

2018-04-24 Thread Marc Gemis
I wonder why those arguments always pop up when we talk about separate sidewalks and not when we talk about separate cycleways. AFAIK it is common practice to map cycleways as separate ways in OSM as soon as there is a kerb. Don't we encounter the same problems in data processing for cycleways ?

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Marc Gemis
2018 at 2:16 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: > W dniu 26.04.2018 o 13:53, Marc Gemis pisze: >> Do you now assume that names in region B outside city C have a >> namehr;nameit in the name tag? > > Yes, unless stated otherwise for cities E, F and G. > > To be clear: I assume only tha

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Marc Gemis
018 o 14:49, Marc Gemis pisze: >> The name for the country in the name tag is " België / Belgique / Belgien" >> (*) >> The name for any street in Brussels is either " - " >> or " - " with the majority mapped with French in >> front. >

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM editor for cycling infrastructure on smartphone?

2018-05-09 Thread Marc Gemis
https://www.mapcontrib.xyz/ has a number of dedicated "apps". Search for bicycle on the home page. On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > Is there anywhere an app for editing specifically bicycle infrastructure > elements in OSM: bicycle paths, shared foot-bicycle paths, road cr

Re: [OSM-talk] Local language help

2018-05-10 Thread Marc Gemis
Don't you think that Belgians like Jo and the rest of the Belgian community know best what the default language is in a certain area ? This can be a pretty sensitive topic, which is not always easy to understand by outsiders. So please let the Belgian community decide the default language without p

[OSM-talk] Mapper of the Month: Yasunari Yamashita (Japan)

2018-05-11 Thread Marc Gemis
This month we interviewed 2 Japanese mappers. The first interview is can be found on the Belgian website [1]. The Japanese version as a diary entry [2]. The second one will be publish in the next couple of days. I hope you enjoy reading it. regards m. [1] http://www.osm.be/2018/05/11/en-motm-Y

Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

2018-06-04 Thread Marc Gemis
The wiki page of amenity=drinking_water lists 2 apps: [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bplaced.tapwater [2] http://wetap.org/ I've never tried them. m. On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 5:54 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > I am looking for an application for Android displaying > amenity

Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

2018-06-04 Thread Marc Gemis
And of course you can use one of the mapcontrib "apps", e.g. https://www.mapcontrib.xyz/t/8a9a5d-Eau_potable (or make your own) regards m On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > The wiki page of amenity=drinking_water lists 2 apps: > [1] https://play.google.com/st

Re: [OSM-talk] Scientific paper on "Information Seeding"

2018-07-09 Thread Marc Gemis
> Compare that with the AND import of the Netherlands where the data was > accurate and needed only minor fixing but where the bulk has just been > untouched (except for adding metadata) and is still the base of the map > in the Netherlands. I hope you are not referring to the building import nor

Re: [OSM-talk] building=grandstand vs leisure=bleachers

2018-07-14 Thread Marc Gemis
You asked the exact same question in April 2018 on the tagging mailing list, not ? I like the response Philip Barnes gave you back then: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-April/035662.html. bleachers = open structures, without walls, grandstands with walls, roofs and often for

Re: [OSM-talk] Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM

2018-08-02 Thread Marc Gemis
isn't this just a variation on what3words [1] or Plus Codes from Google [2] ? Why would you enforce an address string made from 26 strange characters to people that might never have seen the English alphabet ? m. [1] https://what3words.com/ [2] https://plus.codes/ On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:45 P

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.17.0

2018-11-25 Thread Marc Gemis
> BTW: what do you consider to be a progress here? What do you like the > most in recent changes and maybe what problems are the most visible? The sing ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.17.0

2018-11-26 Thread Marc Gemis
> My intention was rather to hear about some general trends, As far as I understand, One general trend is to be "cleaner, have less information". (e.g. the building removal) Another one is paler colours (e.g. parking from yellow to grey) other landuse colour changes towards paler colours I regul

Re: [OSM-talk] Editing road geometry Australia

2019-01-11 Thread Marc Gemis
If you miss the on-ramp and are waiting for the traffic signals, a router can recalculate the route in the meantime and still try to let you turn left at the traffic signals. m. On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 1:47 PM Maarten Deen wrote: > > I agree that Markus' solution is more elegant (and I was more

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-01 Thread Marc Gemis
> > I am the copyright owner of my edits. You are the owner of yours. > > I don't recall ever giving the OSMF authority to act as my agent. Did you? You probably agreed to https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Contributor_Terms, not ? m. ___ tal

Re: [OSM-talk] Flying club ?

2014-04-23 Thread Marc Gemis
do you know the proposal Club ? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Club Could this be used ? regards m On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > On 23/04/2014 21:06, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2014-04-23 19:27 GMT+02:00 Richard Weait : > >> office=com

Re: [OSM-talk] Street Name

2014-05-29 Thread Marc Gemis
FWIW, weg is also a Dutch word with the same meaning as the German one. On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Clay Smalley wrote: > "Weg" is German, approximately means "way." It's right as it is, no > abbreviation. > > Funny though that it's outside of the German Sprachraum. Is Leavenworth a > town

Re: [OSM-talk] Worldwide non-surveyed tag edits

2014-06-11 Thread Marc Gemis
irc will only work when that is an established communication channel in that country. So please, do not make that a requirement. E.g. in Belgium the best way to contact other mappers is the mailing list. I'll understand that this makes it more difficult for non-Belgians to fix the tagging here. Sh

Re: [OSM-talk] Worldwide non-surveyed tag edits

2014-06-11 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 5:35 AM, Andrew Guertin wrote: > "Gardening" carries the risk that, when done incorrectly, it's not just > the map that's impacted negatively, but the community as well. When people > see their work improved upon that's great, but when their work is discarded > or even wor

Re: [OSM-talk] Worldwide non-surveyed tag edits

2014-06-12 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:36 PM, John Packer wrote: > Oh, and personally I think it's every gardener's DUTY to make meaningful > *changeset > comments.* > I think it's every CONTRIBUTOR's duty to make meaningful changeset comments. Why would not you require that from a surveyor ? regards m __

Re: [OSM-talk] Drop rendering of permissive access?

2014-06-30 Thread Marc Gemis
I'll agree with Andy. Don't drop map features for aesthetic reasons. Maybe we need two styles on the osm.orgm style, a "nice" one for map users and and "ugly", but loaded with features mappers-map. regards m On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 1:56 AM, SomeoneElse wrote: > On 30/06/2014 22:23, Matthijs Me

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing common & possible Tagging Mistakes

2014-08-11 Thread Marc Gemis
This is mainly a problem of capacity. During the SOTM EU 2014, the maintainers/developers of the site asked the different communities for servers to extend the area that is covered. regards m On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Dave F. wrote: > > We have plenty of tools showing directly on the

Re: [OSM-talk] The problem of mapping temporary features

2014-09-07 Thread Marc Gemis
This is even a problem with "permanent" features. Names of restaurants can change pretty quickly. In my neighbourhood, even a one way street changed direction 3 times the past 2 years regards m On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Hi all, > > Back in January/February of th

Re: [OSM-talk] How best to create a "single point of interest" online map with OSM data?

2014-10-01 Thread Marc Gemis
It depends on what is slowing down: retrieving the data via OverPass, parsing that file, drawing the individual pins ? - retrieving the data can be avoided by caching in a GeoJSON file. I don't expect that clustering will help if this is the bottleneck - the two other parts depend on your machine,

Re: [OSM-talk] Is the standard map down?

2014-10-09 Thread Marc Gemis
I think this might be caused by the roll-out of the new carto css style a few days ago. Probably there is still backlog to render the tiles. I see the same here. Grey tiles, out-of-date tiles for lower zoom levels, etc. perhaps you understand the graphs behind the rendering servers : http://wiki.o

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental validation software

2014-10-15 Thread Marc Gemis
Dave, IMHO the best way to avoid problems in that spot is to do what other suggested: add the footpath between the 2 street (thereby fixing the navigation for pedestrians) and/or adding the small piece of landuse=grass + the tree. I assume nobody will remove that just to fix a problem reported by

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] A Better Map

2014-10-22 Thread Marc Gemis
It would be nice to know how many of the buildings and house numbers in OSM were imported versus surveyed / drawn by hand. I have a bad feeling about how feasible it is to crowd surf house numbers. regards m On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2014-10-22 12:15 GMT+0

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best addressable map

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
three years time, (84M to go), >> every active contributor would have to add 93 addresses a month - >> constantly. To get 1 Billion addresses mapped by 25.000 contributors in 3 >> yrs, it would be housenumbers a month per active contributor. Are we >> planning to pay the map

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Frankly, I don't get all the brouhaha about addresses. Yes, geocoding is > commercially interesting, but is it interesting for us as a project? Are > So don't you expect "pressure" from companies using OSM for navigation and geocoding to ad

[OSM-talk] Een klein verhaaltje / A little story

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
Via de tool van Sander zag ik een straat waar ik nog geen huis nummers van had. Het was verleidelijk om de nummers gewoon snel te copiëren. Maar omdat ik toch met de honden buiten moest, besloot ik maar om een ommetje te maken langs die voor mij onbekende straat. Wat bracht deze kleine survey op na

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best addressable map

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
ound should not asked at that group ? Or am I mixing people and groups ? regards m On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Johan C wrote: > 2014-10-23 8:57 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis : > >> First question: how do you build "the world's best addressable map" ? >> Through impor

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Marc Gemis
Hi, > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 01:32:19PM +0200, Marc Gemis wrote: > > So don't you expect "pressure" from companies using OSM for navigation > and > > geocoding to add more addresses ? Or do you expect them to use many > > different datasources ? > &

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Marc Gemis
> > ? We'd still need to survey in order to do the maintenance work and > correct errors. That's the main reason why imports are often seen as > problematic: they will not create a comunity, rather there are indications > that the growth of the comunity will slow down when everything looks > "compl

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world's best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Marc Gemis
Thanks a lot for sharing the methodology of the French community. I like this approach regards m On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Christian Quest wrote: > Addresses in France... > > We started a project to collect addresses on a separate database called > "BANO" (Base d'Adresses Nationale Ouve

Re: [OSM-talk] Monitoring route relations

2014-11-16 Thread Marc Gemis
I think user Wambacher already monitors the admin boundaries for his website: https://osm.wno-edv-service.de/boundaries/ , so you might contact him. regards m On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Colin Smale wrote: > I have also been looking for such a facility - in my case for admin > boundaries

Re: [OSM-talk] Back on OSM

2014-12-19 Thread Marc Gemis
Peter, I think you have this accidentally to the talk mailing list instead of the Belgian list. Perhaps you can read https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Using_AGIV_Crab_data . In general the house numbers are mostly placed on the buildings in Belgium. In some cases you can use

Re: [OSM-talk] Keeping imported data updated with source changes

2015-01-10 Thread Marc Gemis
As far as I know, the tools that generates the missing address in Flanders, does this purely based upon addr:street and addr:housenumber. Look at [1], and fill in e.g. 1980 or 2610 as postal code , check Load OSM data and press "update" Documentation for end-users can be found under the documentat

Re: [OSM-talk] Keeping imported data updated with source changes

2015-01-10 Thread Marc Gemis
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Wiktor Niesiobedzki wrote: > 3. Addresses change. Currently there is no way to isolate the > situation, that a point in OSM needs a change of street name, city > name or housenumber, because this name changed has changed in the > source. I can't mark all the point

Re: [OSM-talk] Data filter

2015-01-12 Thread Marc Gemis
A totally different approach for a very small part you could use Overpass: replace with your username. The following query only returns the ways in the bbox of which was the last modifier. [out:json][timeout:25]; // gather results (way({{bbox}});)->.a; ( // query part for: “user=

Re: [OSM-talk] "guide to vandalism” in OSM?

2015-02-12 Thread Marc Gemis
As far as I see it: The author says that it is pretty easy to vandalise OSM data, even without creating an account. You just have to make a note with some fake information and wait until an armchair mapper picks up the note, does no verification on the ground and adds the POI. He shows 2 notes tha

Re: [OSM-talk] "guide to vandalism” in OSM?

2015-02-12 Thread Marc Gemis
my mother tongue. On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Dave F. wrote: > On 12/02/2015 13:37, Marc Gemis wrote: > >> >> The author was not describing the mappers as vandals, but he was pointing >> to the people that create such notes in the hope some lazy mappers would >&g

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Semi Mechanical Edit : "recycling:excrement"

2015-04-19 Thread Marc Gemis
It's documented on the German wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Animal#Hundekot-T.C3.BCten-Spender On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > On that node I got tripped up because "vending"="excrement_bags" seems to > be used with and without "amenity"="vending_machine" >

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM OSM (or OSMSM (or something else better?))

2015-04-26 Thread Marc Gemis
Nice ideas, but impossible to realise IMHO. try finding a good rendering for highway = residential maxweight = 7.5 cycleway:left = track cycleway:right = lane sideway=both lanes = 5 lanes:forward=2 lanes:backward =3 lanes:bus:forward=1 turn:lanes:backward=left|through|right lit = yes and perhaps

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing redundant routing instructions

2015-04-27 Thread Marc Gemis
As long as the name (or the ref/int_ref) of the street remains the same, I think the router should be able to give other messages than "turn right". There is no need for an additional relation IMHO. m On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > On 27/04/15 10:45, p...@trigpoint.me.u

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing redundant routing instructions

2015-04-27 Thread Marc Gemis
I should have written "then there is no need" (with "then" when there is a name or ref that stays the same) in the other cases you need a relation. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 4:18 PM, wrote: > > > On Mon Apr 27 15:07:45 2015 GMT+0100, Marc Gemis wrote: > > As l

Re: [OSM-talk] Junction assessment help

2015-05-10 Thread Marc Gemis
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Ed Loach wrote: > I’m not sure we should be looking at Google Streetview, but it still looks > right to me. From a routing point of view there are two short one way > sections of road either side of the tree; that other maps lack the detail > that OSM has is no re

Re: [OSM-talk] iD name suggestion index - asking non-English-speaking mappers to review

2015-05-16 Thread Marc Gemis
Boulangerie is the french word for bakery m. On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Michał Brzozowski wrote: > https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index > > So this index is used in iD and it's supposed to suggest names of > shops/amenities that are part of some chain. (like: McDonald's, Aldi,

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Marc Gemis
> >> >> I'd say that whether or not a name is actually usable to help navigate >> to a place is a pretty important piece of information. For example, >> when processing OSM data for my own use I'll try and drop unsigned >> names and refs from roads (there's no point in saying "turn left on >> Foo

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-05-30 Thread Marc Gemis
I've seen this topic being discussed here or elsewhere in the past. I thought that the consensus was that in some area's (a Spanish town I believe), it was ok to leave the oneway=no. The reasoning was that most streets in that town were oneway=yes, and the oneway=no was used to indicate that this r

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-06-01 Thread Marc Gemis
just a few thoughts: What is the value of a 1 time mechanical edit cleanup ? From the moment you ran your script, new data can arrive in the OSM with the wrong values. Will you run your script daily ? What if a data consumer obtains the data between 2 runs of your script ? Wouldn't it be better t

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-15 Thread Marc Gemis
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: >I'm known for being critical of armchair mapping by people with no > personal connection tho the area being mapped. Whether done for fun, for > money, or to help, I think that in most cases it is a bad idea that runs > against the spirit

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