Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-10-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 02 ott 2016, alle ore 09:57, Jochen Topf ha > scritto: > > But it is the style that people use to check their edits there's already a tendency of "mapping for the renderer" in the sense that some people prefer to use a tag that is less pertinent but rendered c

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-10-02 Thread Jochen Topf
On Sun, Oct 02, 2016 at 08:54:09AM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > Il giorno 01 ott 2016, alle ore 16:23, Paul Norman ha > > scritto: > > > > OpenStreetMap Carto is given special treatment on osm.org by being the > > default layer, so the wiki should reflect that. > > > Just because the

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-10-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 01 ott 2016, alle ore 16:23, Paul Norman ha > scritto: > > OpenStreetMap Carto is given special treatment on osm.org by being the > default layer, so the wiki should reflect that. Just because there's already special treatment does not mean we have to carve i

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-10-01 Thread Jochen Topf
Hi! User "Wuzzy" did a huge amount of work related to this discussion here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Wuzzy/diary/39580 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Standard_tile_layer/Key Maybe we can use this somehow? Jochen -- Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org http://www.jochentopf.com/ +49-35

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-10-01 Thread François Lacombe
2016-10-01 16:23 GMT+02:00 Paul Norman : > > OpenStreetMap Carto is given special treatment on osm.org by being the > default layer, so the wiki should reflect that. > OSM Carto doesn't render all features the wiki describes Will we left a blank space when there is no osm carto style? No renderi

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-10-01 Thread Jochen Topf
On Sa, Okt 01, 2016 at 02:36:58 +0200, Tobias Knerr wrote: > On 21.09.2016 01:33, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > > I added it to the infobox as osmcarto-rendering. > > > > It is currently only used in the supermarket page: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dsupermarket > > Maybe I'm a

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-10-01 Thread Paul Norman
On 2016-10-01 02:36 PM, Tobias Knerr wrote: Maybe I'm a bit late to the party, but I don't feel it's great to give special treatment to Mapnik in the infobox, and there is not enough room for presenting all the renderers there. OpenStreetMap Carto is given special treatment on osm.org by bei

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-10-01 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 21.09.2016 01:33, Matthijs Melissen wrote: I added it to the infobox as osmcarto-rendering. It is currently only used in the supermarket page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dsupermarket Maybe I'm a bit late to the party, but I don't feel it's great to give special treatment

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-26 Thread François Lacombe
Understood Dalibor, Obviously, no offense intended while replacing the whole template like I did few days ago. The problem isn't the taglist itself but the lack of translation of keys' pages on wiki, I agree with that too. Nevertheless I think it's a bad idea to wait for all translations of all

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-26 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Matthijs, 2016-09-23 14:27 GMT+02:00 Matthijs Melissen : > Yes, for the moment it is necessary to create a new page under a > different name. If you move over the current template to TagList, > non-English language wiki pages will break. > For me It worked like a charm. I don't see that probl

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-23 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 21 September 2016 at 09:25, Jochen Topf wrote: > On Mi, Sep 21, 2016 at 01:33:28 +0200, Matthijs Melissen wrote: >> On 1 September 2016 at 15:04, Jochen Topf wrote: >> > So, if somebody adds the rendering to the infobox (and tells me about it), >> > I'll pull that data from taginfo and can put

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-23 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 21 September 2016 at 09:53, François Lacombe wrote: > You deal with pages like Template:Map_Features/XXX but power template is > currently known as Template:Map_Features:power > Have we to rename the template to Template:Map_Features/Power ? Yes, for the moment it is necessary to create a new

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-21 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Jochen 2016-09-21 10:08 GMT+02:00 Jochen Topf : > No, count isn't a criteria at all. man_made=mill is simply not included > automatically, because there is no wiki page for it. > Understood, thanks for clarification > > I recommend giving an explicit list of all tags that you want to have i

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-21 Thread Dalibor Jelínek
to:joc...@remote.org] > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:09 AM > To: François Lacombe > Cc: OpenStreetMap > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki > > Hi! > > On Mi, Sep 21, 2016 at 09:53:27 +0200, François Lacombe wrote: > > The way the list is built isn&

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-21 Thread Jochen Topf
Hi! On Mi, Sep 21, 2016 at 09:53:27 +0200, François Lacombe wrote: > The way the list is built isn't clear to me : for man_made example you just > give tags=man_made as template parameter but taginfo doesn't return the > whole set of values. > I see a man_made=mill value on taginfo which is not vi

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-21 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Matthijs, I find this stuff interesting for power features and thinking to move the current template to this new system. You deal with pages like Template:Map_Features/XXX but power template is currently known as Template:Map_Features:power Have we to rename the template to Template:Map_Featur

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-21 Thread Jochen Topf
Hi Matthijs, On Mi, Sep 21, 2016 at 01:33:28 +0200, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > On 1 September 2016 at 15:04, Jochen Topf wrote: > > So, if somebody adds the rendering to the infobox (and tells me about it), > > I'll pull that data from taginfo and can put it in the taglist tables. > > I added it

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-20 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 September 2016 at 10:01, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > As a firs step, I included the list here on the Geological map features page: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geological > it seems to work well there. We now have TagList templates for the following keys: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-20 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 September 2016 at 15:04, Jochen Topf wrote: > So, if somebody adds the rendering to the infobox (and tells me about it), > I'll pull that data from taginfo and can put it in the taglist tables. I added it to the infobox as osmcarto-rendering. It is currently only used in the supermarket pag

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-01 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 September 2016 at 15:05, Jochen Topf wrote: > What are the problems with translations? I didn't realise the non-English Map Features templates include the English Map Features template. Nothing we can't fix, but simply putting TagLists in the English Template:Map_Features:XXX pages won't wor

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-01 Thread Jochen Topf
On Do, Sep 01, 2016 at 10:42:54 +0200, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > On 1 September 2016 at 10:01, Matthijs Melissen > wrote: > > As a firs step, I included the list here on the Geological map features > > page: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geological > > it seems to work well there. > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-01 Thread Jochen Topf
Hi! On Do, Sep 01, 2016 at 10:01:16 +0200, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > On a bit longer term, would it be an idea to add a field for > 'rendering' (in the default stylesheet) to the infobox, and include it > on taginfo? I know the 'default' stylesheet is just one of the > stylesheets, and therefore

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-01 Thread Jochen Topf
On Do, Sep 01, 2016 at 10:01:16 +0200, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > As a firs step, I included the list here on the Geological map features page: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geological > it seems to work well there. > > The only thing not working are the image links, which are currently bro

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-01 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 September 2016 at 10:01, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > As a firs step, I included the list here on the Geological map features page: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geological > it seems to work well there. As there are some problems with the translations of the pages, this has now been re

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-01 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 September 2016 at 09:01, Jochen Topf wrote: > And feel free to tell me if you need anything more or different. What it > does at the moment is what I thought might be useful and doable. That > doesn't mean this is the best solution. As a firs step, I included the list here on the Geological

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-01 Thread Jochen Topf
On Do, Sep 01, 2016 at 08:21:39 +0200, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > On Thursday, 1 September 2016, Jochen Topf wrote: > > > On Do, Sep 01, 2016 at 12:42:10 +0200, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > > > We have currently a Map Features page on the wiki: > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-08-31 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On Thursday, 1 September 2016, Jochen Topf wrote: > On Do, Sep 01, 2016 at 12:42:10 +0200, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > > We have currently a Map Features page on the wiki: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features > > > > The page also contains definitions for all features. We therefore

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-08-31 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Matthijs, +1 to keep Map Feature pages up to date. It would be great to sync definitions with info boxes (with some template tricks but it more looks like wiki-data than simple wikimedia templates) TagInfo already got it from wiki All the best Francois Le 1 sept. 2016 12:45 AM, "Matthijs Meli

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-08-31 Thread Jochen Topf
On Do, Sep 01, 2016 at 12:42:10 +0200, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > We have currently a Map Features page on the wiki: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features > > The page also contains definitions for all features. We therefore > store the definitions now in two places: in the map feature