Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-26 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else, on 25-Jun-2005 at 17:35 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote: The others are the majority, that fact alone says enough. ASK Killer argument. Thousands of lemmings can't be wrong! :-) How many computers are running Windows, how many OS/2? Just as I said...

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-26 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : We can like it or not like it at our own personal disretion, but there are facts. ASK Ah, the facts, yes. :-) ASK You have to agree that an assumption, based on the fact that 1000 ASK users prefer/use system A and 10 users prefer/use system B, ASK

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-26 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Goncalo Farias, on 26-Jun-2005 at 14:16 you (Goncalo Farias) wrote: De facto standards I am quite sure that I am totally wrong when I assume that, seeing your reply in a thread where you haven't participated at all yet (while it would be a topic that would offer you tremendous

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim, On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:20:18 +0300 GMT (23/06/2005, 18:20 +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM Could you please aswer very important questions about editors in The Bat! MM 1. What are the disadvantages of Windows Editor comparing to MM MicroEd, and what features of MicroEd that you

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-26 Thread Goncalo Farias
Hi Alex, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : ASK Hello Goncalo Farias, ASK on 26-Jun-2005 at 14:16 you (Goncalo Farias) wrote: De facto standards ASK I am quite sure that I am totally wrong when I assume that, ASK seeing your reply in a thread where you haven't participated at ASK all

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-26 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello Michael, Saturday, June 25, 2005, 9:36:04 AM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote: BTW, is there any way to invoke MicroEd for just text formatting? SmartBat (Tools Menu or F6) is what you're looking for, I guess. -- Martin TB! 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-26 Thread Michael Acklin
Sunday, June 26, 2005, 5:35:41 PM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote: Hello Martin, MS SmartBat (Tools Menu or F6) is what you're looking for, I guess. Yes it is Martin. I just found out on the TB Tech list. Nick Danger brought up the same short cut/menu item. And thanks for your reply. :)

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else, on 25-Jun-2005 at 12:43 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote: I don't keep a complete archive either, but the starting message was posted by me on the 3rd of June at 2144 bearing the subject of Deficiencies in v3.5. Hmmm, so its nothing new. One personal

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, ASK Please point me to the starting message on gmane or mailarchive, ASK I haven't seen the topic in the past 1 1/2 weeks and I've been ASK away was unsubscribed before. I don't keep a complete archive either, but the starting message was posted by me on the 3rd of June at 2144 bearing the

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi Alex, ASK Hmmm, so its nothing new. Yes, TheBat behaves like this since the earliest version I have seen - 1.53, I believe. ASK One personal preference against the ASK other, and the proclamation of partly self-raised standards Indeed. RIT aparently thought that thousands and thousands of

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else, on 25-Jun-2005 at 16:00 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote: ASK One personal preference against the other, and the proclamation of ASK partly self-raised standards Indeed. RIT aparently thought that thousands and thousands of editors were doing it all wrong and

Re[3]: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Paul Van Noord
6/25/2005 10:28 AM Hi Alto, On 6/25/2005 Alto Speckhardt wrote: AS Indeed. RIT aparently thought that thousands and thousands of editors AS were doing it all wrong and invented their own system. Change and improvement doesn't happen unless someone is willing to be bold enough to go outside

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi Alex, Indeed. RIT aparently thought that thousands and thousands of editors were doing it all wrong and invented their own system. ASK No, thats not what I meant. I understood you perfectly well. However, in this case precocious remarks are not going to change anything: Thousands of

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello once more, on 25-Jun-2005 at 16:16 I (Alexander S. Kunz) wrote: What you're saying would mean that the majority of TB users backs up your wish. Is that the case? :-) Uh... the Windows editor *removes* the LFs (that autoformat inserted) before sending? Is that WOD? In the editor prefs

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else, on 25-Jun-2005 at 16:50 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote: Are you seriously suggesting that the thousands are wrong and everyone speaking up against the weird system the lone one is using are intolerant boneheads? No, but TB isn't wrong either, and there is

Re[4]: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi Paul, AS Indeed. RIT aparently thought that thousands and thousands of AS editors were doing it all wrong and invented their own system. PVN Change and improvement doesn't happen unless someone is willing PVN to be bold enough to go outside the box. There is nothing to say PVN the other

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Alto! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 9:50 AM, you wrote: ASK What you're saying would mean that the majority of TB users ASK backs up your wish. Is that the case? :-) Apparently it is. On this list are very few people who have reported that they explicitly like RIT's way, many who don't

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else, on 25-Jun-2005 at 17:05 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote: The others are the majority, that fact alone says enough. Killer argument. Thousands of lemmings can't be wrong! :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Success is

MicroEd [was Re: Very Important Question]

2005-06-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Alexander! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 10:03 AM, you wrote: Are you seriously suggesting that the thousands are wrong and everyone speaking up against the weird system the lone one is using are intolerant boneheads? No, but TB isn't wrong either, and there is NO such thing as an

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, June 25, 2005 at 9:54:33 AM [GMT -0500], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Uh... the Windows editor *removes* the LFs (that autoformat inserted) before sending? Is that WOD? In the editor prefs wrapping at column 75 is set, and it appears on-screen, but is gone when I send... ?!? puzzled

Re: MicroEd [was Re: Very Important Question]

2005-06-25 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, on 25-Jun-2005 at 17:12 you (Mary Bull) wrote: I prefer MicroEd for writing e-mails, and I would very much like to see it remain as my easy choice for using it. Thanks for the support, Mary. I'm not against adding _optional_ functionality to MicroEd for those

Re[4]: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Michael Acklin
Saturday, June 25, 2005, 9:36:04 AM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote: Hello Paul, PVN Change and improvement doesn't happen unless someone is willing to be PVN bold enough to go outside the box. There is nothing to say the other PVN editors are correct and the TB is wrong. The reverse is also true.

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Allie Martin everyone else, on 25-Jun-2005 at 17:25 you (Allie Martin) wrote: Uh... the Windows editor *removes* the LFs (that autoformat inserted) before sending? Is that WOD? In the editor prefs wrapping at column 75 is set, and it appears on-screen, but is gone when I send... ?!?

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Paul! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 9:36 AM, you wrote: AS Indeed. RIT aparently thought that thousands and thousands of AS editors were doing it all wrong and invented their own system. Change and improvement doesn't happen unless someone is willing to be bold enough to go outside the

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, The others are the majority, that fact alone says enough. ASK Killer argument. Thousands of lemmings can't be wrong! :-) How many computers are running Windows, how many OS/2? We can like it or not like it at our own personal disretion, but there are facts. -- MfG, Alto

Re: MicroEd [was Re: Very Important Question]

2005-06-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Alexander! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 10:27 AM, you wrote: I prefer MicroEd for writing e-mails, and I would very much like to see it remain as my easy choice for using it. Thanks for the support, Mary. My pleasure. Nice to be on the same page with you, here. I'm not against adding

Re[5]: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, June 25, 2005 at 10:05:31 AM [GMT -0500], Alto Speckhardt wrote: The others are the majority, that fact alone says enough. Windows is the standard. It's the standard against with other OS's should be judged. Afterall, it's what the majority uses so it's architecture and approach

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, June 25, 2005 at 10:33:00 AM [GMT -0500], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Really? I thought if I set TB to wrap at column 75, it would do that on sending, and not only on-screen, and remove the formatting when sending. It means I compose a message on-screen and it will not look the way

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Lars Sölter
Windows is the standard. It's the standard against with other OS's should be judged. Afterall, it's what the majority uses so it's architecture and approach must be right and any lone deviation should be considered wrong and not in the interest of the user. Alto was talking about the GUI of

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, June 25, 2005 at 11:25:39 AM [GMT -0500], Lars Sölter wrote: Alto was talking about the GUI of what ever operating system. That's what *you're* talking about and not what Alto's talking about. He's saying that once the majority uses a particular approach, then that must say

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Allie Martin everyone else, on 25-Jun-2005 at 17:52 you (Allie Martin) wrote: But TB removes linefeeds from messages created with the Windows editor. Look at the source of the message I sent with Windows editor. It does not contain LFs but only very long lines. Thats not what I had on

Re[3]: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Paul Van Noord
6/25/2005 1:27 PM Hi Alto, On 6/25/2005 Alto Speckhardt wrote: AS Hi Alex, Indeed. RIT aparently thought that thousands and thousands of editors were doing it all wrong and invented their own system. ASK No, thats not what I meant. AS I understood you perfectly well. However, in this case

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi Lars, LS Alto was talking about the GUI of what ever operating system. LS And the fact that a GUI only makes sense when every application on LS that system is handled similar in it's basic functions (shortcuts, LS menu entries, dialog and window structure ...). LS That is the fundamental

Re[3]: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi Allie, Alto was talking about the GUI of what ever operating system. AM That's what *you're* talking about and not what Alto's talking about. Hm, maybe I've been to subtle again. AM He's saying that once the majority uses a particular approach, then that AM must say something for the fact

Re[4]: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Allie Martin
On Saturday, June 25, 2005 at 3:46:42 PM [GMT -0500], Alto Speckhardt wrote: No, that I did not say for sure. What I said is that everybody is used to a certain way, be it sensible or not. Every departure from this trained behaviour is new territory for the user, and new territory is

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-25 Thread Lars Sölter
I do appreciate compromise and so far that's been in the form of the Windows editor. But the windows editor is no compromis, it is only a cheep excuse (actually it is more a technical demonstration of the windows api edit fields ;). It is not close beeing able to perform the range of

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread Francis Segond
Bonjour Alexander, ASK And when I quote it and reflow your quotes with ALT-L, everything ASK is gone. ASK Get my point now? :-) Nope! Why would you want to reflow manually your text while using auto-format which does this for you? Once again, I'm just talking about a feature (hard vs

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread 9Val
Hi Mark, MP They all start answering without asking why these questions are important! :-) Actually, answer is very simple - as you can see in just-posted roadmap, Unicode support is one of our goals, and it surely will cause editor changes. --

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi all, FS I only miss the possibility to start a new line in the same FS paragraph with the auto-format mode switched on, like many FS word-processors do with Shift+Return. CM Agreed. And in addition to this a possibility to visually distinguish CM between new line (Shift+Return) and new

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, ASK How do you keep line feed and line feed apart once the message is sent? ASK You can't do that. A linefeed is a linefeed, especially in a plain text ASK message. Yes - it says go to next line. It does not say insert empty line here. So once more, I don't get what the problem is supposed

Re: Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/24/05, Alto Speckhardt wrote: Why all the trouble? One-Enter is end-paragraph-and-goto-next-line, two-Enter is end-paragraph-and-insert-new-empty-line. The way it's done since WordStar. Why fumble around with two different key combinations that just confuse everything all over again? Not

Re[4]: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi Avi, (BTW, is this correct? Is Avi your first name?) Why all the trouble? One-Enter is end-paragraph-and-goto-next-line, two-Enter is end-paragraph-and-insert-new-empty-line. The way it's done since WordStar. Why fumble around with two different key combinations that just confuse

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread Lars Sölter
Why all the trouble? One-Enter is end-paragraph-and-goto-next-line, two-Enter is end-paragraph-and-insert-new-empty-line. The way it's done since WordStar. Because some people never bothered them selves with inferior Disk Operating Systems and suspect word processors. Either because they

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread Krzysztof Trybowski
Hello Maxim, On Thursday, June 23, 2005 you wrote: 1. What are the disadvantages of Windows Editor comparing to MicroEd, and what features of MicroEd that you are really using, you are missing in Windows Editor? 2. What are the disadvantages of MicroEd comparing to Windows Editor, and what

Re: Re[4]: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/24/05, Alto Speckhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Avi, (BTW, is this correct? Is Avi your first name?) Avi is currently my first name in Israel, but it's very common. So some people in the computer-related industries call me Jay. Take your pick... or choose another name, if you like.

Re[6]: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread Francis Segond
Bonjour Avi, (I'll call you Jay next time :-) Yes, I'm with you absolutly. This in fact is my basic complaint with MicroEd, not being able to handle a single Enter as an end this paragraph and start a new line as in every other editor I know of. AY Well, perhaps then the other solution would

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Hendrik Oesterlin everyone else, on 24-Jun-2005 at 01:13 you (Hendrik Oesterlin) wrote: You could also just highlighting the lines you will re-flow and press Alt+L This will work even if there is no empty line between the paragraphs. Too much work. ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else, on 24-Jun-2005 at 12:06 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote: ASK How do you keep line feed and line feed apart once the message is sent? ASK You can't do that. A linefeed is a linefeed, especially in a plain text ASK message. Yes - it says go to next line. It

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Francis Segond everyone else, on 24-Jun-2005 at 08:52 you (Francis Segond) wrote: Nope! Why would you want to reflow manually your text while using auto-format which does this for you? Once again, I'm just talking about a feature (hard vs soft-return) encountered in most editors. But

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else, on 24-Jun-2005 at 12:44 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote: Yes, I'm with you absolutly. This in fact is my basic complaint with MicroEd, not being able to handle a single Enter as an end this paragraph and start a new line as in every other editor I know of.

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi Alex, Yes, I'm with you absolutly. This in fact is my basic complaint with MicroEd, not being able to handle a single Enter as an end this paragraph and start a new line as in every other editor I know of. ASK Nonsense! Turn off auto-formatting and you have what you want. May I suggest you

Re[3]: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread Allie Martin
On Friday, June 24, 2005, at 03:11 PM, Alto Speckhardt wrote: ASK Nonsense! Turn off auto-formatting and you have what you want. May I suggest you read up on the discussion on this subject that already took place right here in the past few weeks. If anything is unclear to you then, I'll

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello you schmuck, answering yourself again? on 24-Jun-2005 at 20:56 you (Alexander S. Kunz) wrote: ...and the next reflow of *your* message (when it is included as quotation) will kill your single LF in a paragraph. Like this. While I sent it like this: ...and the next reflow of *your*

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-24 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else, on 24-Jun-2005 at 22:11 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote: May I suggest you read up on the discussion on this subject that already took place right here in the past few weeks. If anything is unclear to you then, I'll gladly answer your remaining questions.

Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello , Could you please aswer very important questions about editors in The Bat! 1. What are the disadvantages of Windows Editor comparing to MicroEd, and what features of MicroEd that you are really using, you are missing in Windows Editor? 2. What are the disadvantages of MicroEd comparing

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Maxim, On 23-06-2005 13:20, you [MM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: MM 1. What are the disadvantages of Windows Editor comparing to MM MicroEd, and what features of MicroEd that you are really using, MM you are missing in Windows Editor? I cannot talk about the Windows Editor as I never use it

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Tony Boom
--On Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:20 pm +0300 Maxim Masiutin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. What are the disadvantages of Windows Editor comparing to MicroEd, and what features of MicroEd that you are really using, you are missing in Windows Editor? Free Carret , ALT+L and the spell checker.

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, June 23, 2005 at 6:20:18 AM [GMT -0500], Maxim Masiutin wrote: 1. What are the disadvantages of Windows Editor comparing to MicroEd, and what features of MicroEd that you are really using, you are missing in Windows Editor? I'd miss the following if using the Windows Editor: -

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Allie, Well put. You said it all better than me... :-) -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.5.30 Pro /thebat version env. ~12 POP3, 4 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Maxim! On Thursday, June 23, 2005, 6:20 AM, you wrote: 1. What are the disadvantages of Windows Editor comparing to MicroEd, and what features of MicroEd that you are really using, you are missing in Windows Editor? 1) The way MicroEd reflows text: I use Utilities/Format Block. I

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Francis Segond
Bonjour Maxim, MM 1. What are the disadvantages of Windows Editor comparing MM to MicroEd, and what features of MicroEd that you are really MM using, you are missing in Windows Editor? I can't remember to have ever used the Windows Editor! MM 2. What are the disadvantages of MicroEd comparing

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Stuart Hemming
I can't remember to have ever used the Windows Editor! You're not on you own; I don't think I ever have either. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.1, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. She said,

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Stuart Hemming
Free Caret What is this? Veggies supplied Free of Charge? -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.1, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Thu 23-Jun-05 6:20am -0500, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Could you please aswer very important questions about editors in The Bat! 1. What are the disadvantages of Windows Editor comparing to MicroEd, and what features of MicroEd that you are really using, you are missing in Windows Editor?

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Stuart! On Thursday, June 23, 2005, 8:03 AM, you wrote: Free Caret What is this? Veggies supplied Free of Charge? LOL At a complete loss for words, I googled free caret and one of the many listings offered me was: The Bat! FAQ Get Your Free The Bat! Tileables/Wallpaper! ... It's also a

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Carsten Meyer
Hello Francis, hiermit antworte ich auf die Nachricht vom 23.06.2005 (14:54 Uhr): MM 1. What are the disadvantages of Windows Editor comparing to MM MicroEd, and what features of MicroEd that you are really MM using, you are missing in Windows Editor? FS I can't remember to have ever used the

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Stuart Hemming
It's also a free caret editor which means that wherever you click in the message is where you'll start ... So now I know. Every day's a school day. Can't you think of anything that you like about MicroEd to tell Maxim? Many thing probably, but not in the context of a comparison with the

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Natasha V Pearce
Hi Maxim MM 1. What are the disadvantages of Windows Editor comparing to MicroEd, MM and what features of MicroEd that you are really using, you are missing in MM Windows Editor? I've never really used Windows Editor, but I just gave it a whirl to refresh my memory about why not. Here's what

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Mike
On Thursday, June 23, 2005, 9:02:02 AM, Stuart Hemming wrote: I can't remember to have ever used the Windows Editor! SH You're not on you own; I don't think I ever have either. I don't think I've ever used it either. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Carsten, On 23-06-2005 15:26, you [CM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: FS I only miss the possibility to start a new line in the same FS paragraph with the auto-format mode switched on, like many FS word-processors do with Shift+Return. CM Agreed. And in addition to this a possibility to

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Stuart! On Thursday, June 23, 2005, 8:28 AM, you wrote: It's also a free caret editor which means that wherever you click in the message is where you'll start ... So now I know. Every day's a school day. I can't imagine that I knew something you didn't! So, glad I googled, because I

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Lars Sölter
I don't think that most people here in the list will use the windows editor. As it is nowehre comming close to what most expect from an email editor. As there would be quote reformating, handling indents, beeing able to tell what text is send send formated or as one long line, and so on. I

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, June 23, 2005, at 08:51 AM, Lars Sölter wrote: I for my self decided to use the windows editor, because I never got used to the weird MircoEd behaviour for Cursorplacement, double LF for marking new paragraphs, So why are you double line feeding for new paragraphs with the

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Lars Sölter
So why are you double line feeding for new paragraphs with the Windows Editor? Yes, it is some kind of convetion for paragraphs in lager text bodies. But then how to handle tables or lists or ... -- With best regards Lars Sölter The Bat! Version 3.5.28 Windows 2000 / Service Pack 4 (Build

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Maxim, Thursday, June 23, 2005, 1:20:18 PM, you wrote: MM Could you please aswer very important questions about editors in The Bat! That's a bunch of very dedicated followers RitLabs has. They all start answering without asking why these questions are important! :-) -- Best Wishes,

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, June 23, 2005, at 09:22 AM, Lars Sölter wrote: Yes, it is some kind of convetion for paragraphs in lager text bodies. But then how to handle tables or lists or ... Indeed. However, but you were double line feeding for your paragraphs using the Windows Editor while at the same time

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Lars Sölter
You just have to switch to a different mode. Yes, but I consider switching mode for such basic tasks annoying. -- With best regards Lars Sölter The Bat! Version 3.5.28 Windows 2000 / Service Pack 4 (Build 2195) Current beta is

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mark! On Thursday, June 23, 2005, 9:25 AM, you wrote: MM Could you please aswer very important questions about editors in MM The Bat! That's a bunch of very dedicated followers RitLabs has. They all start answering without asking why these questions are important! :-) Well, hey,

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Maxim, Thursday, June 23, 2005, 5:20:18 AM, you wrote: 1. What are the disadvantages of Windows Editor comparing to MicroEd, and what features of MicroEd that you are really using, you are missing in Windows Editor? Never used it. I always have used MicroEd because of the free caret.

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Paul Van Noord
6/23/2005 10:52 AM Hi Maxim, On 6/23/2005 Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM Hello , MM Could you please aswer very important questions about editors in The Bat! MM 1. What are the disadvantages of Windows Editor comparing MM to MicroEd, and what features of MicroEd that you are really MM using, you

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Allie Martin everyone else, on 23-Jun-2005 at 16:02 you (Allie Martin) wrote: Double line feeds between paragraphs is highly popular now. Its so popular that its the norm (I think). At least when I learned to type with 10 fingers on a typewriter at school... back then... gawd, how long

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Francis Segond everyone else, on 23-Jun-2005 at 14:54 you (Francis Segond) wrote: I only miss the possibility to start a new line in the same paragraph with the auto-format mode switched on, like many word-processors do with Shift+Return. How do you keep line feed and line feed apart

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Maxim Masiutin everyone else, on 23-Jun-2005 at 13:20 you (Maxim Masiutin) wrote: Could you please aswer very important questions about editors in The Bat! ...can someone please tell me what the differences between Windows editor and MicroEd are except usage of proportional fonts? I

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Lars Sölter
Its so popular that its the norm (I think). At least when I learned to type with 10 fingers on a typewriter at school... back then... gawd, how long ago was that?! But that is a formating convetion, an no technical reason. And this convention is only applied unformated text parts. -- With

Re[2]: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Francis Segond
Bonjour Alexander, ASK How do you keep line feed and line feed apart once the message is sent? ASK You can't do that. A linefeed is a linefeed, especially in a plain text ASK message. I don't get your point there. I'm talking about hard linefeed (return) and soft linefeed (shift+return) *while*

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Maxim Masiutin wrotes on 23/06/2005 at 22:20:18 +1100 subject Very Important Question : Could you please aswer very important questions about editors in The Bat! 1. What are the disadvantages of Windows Editor comparing to MicroEd, and what features of MicroEd that you are really using, you

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Lars Sölter everyone else, on 23-Jun-2005 at 19:25 you (Lars Sölter) wrote: Its so popular that its the norm (I think). At least when I learned to type with 10 fingers on a typewriter at school... back then... gawd, how long ago was that?! But that is a formating convetion, an no

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Lars Sölter
I think it is important to remember that the majority of us wants email as plain text, if I want formatted text in a serious way, I'd go for a word processor or HTML. I'm only talking about plain text formating. Nothing else. -- With best regards Lars Sölter The Bat! Version 3.5.28

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Lars Sölter everyone else, on 23-Jun-2005 at 23:21 you (Lars Sölter) wrote: I think it is important to remember that the majority of us wants email as plain text, if I want formatted text in a serious way, I'd go for a word processor or HTML. I'm only talking about plain text

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Maxim, On Thursday, June 23, 2005 at 1:20:18 PM Maxim [MM] wrote: MM 1. What are the disadvantages of Windows Editor comparing MM to MicroEd, and what features of MicroEd that you are really MM using, you are missing in Windows Editor? Additional to these many things already said: -

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Alexander S. Kunz wrotes on 24/06/2005 at 08:38:56 +1100 subject Very Important Question : I'm only talking about plain text formating. Nothing else. If you re-flow a quoted paragraph, you can't keep the linefeeds at the autowrap border and the manually inserted ones apart with the simple

Re: Very Important Question

2005-06-23 Thread Munango-Keewati
On Thursday, June 23, 2005, 6:20:18 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Could you please aswer very important questions about editors in The Bat! One feature I really care about is the Windows as-you-type spell checker, which (last I checked) only works in one of the editors. This determined which one