Re[8]: 3.5.36

2005-07-05 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : CT --On 4/07/2005 21:33 +0100 Goncalo wrote: You must agree that it has improved over B30, right? CT I see no improvements whatsoever in IMAP performance over 3.5.30's CT performance. It is still unusable day-to-day for all the reasons CT discussed in

Re[8]: 3.5.36

2005-07-05 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : CT --On 4/07/2005 21:30 +0100 Goncalo wrote: I'm saying the b36 is better than b30 though still having annoying bugs. CT I'm not so concerned about unresolved minor bugs (although others CT may not agree) but in the programme's core performance with

Re: Failure of Ctrl-Right

2005-07-05 Thread Carsten Meyer
Hallo Maurice, hiermit antworte ich auf die Nachricht vom 05.07.2005 (07:27 Uhr): MS [...], but I have noticed that there is something weird about the MS way TB! handles 'go to next unread' when the currently selected MS 'folder' is an account name itself. MS For instance, I have at the top of

Re: Re[8]: 3.5.36

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
--On 5 July 2005 07:16:58 +0100 Goncalo Farias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But this beta isn't just IMAP fixes, is it? It was supposed to be yes, at least that was the promise made by RL at the end of the last beta cycle. -- Tony. i.

I don't get it - VF woes

2005-07-05 Thread George M. Menegakis
I tried to take my chances with view folders again. I had a large folder (contains 23482) messages. I created three views, one for 2002 mails, one for 2003 mails and one for 2004 mails. The views created and work like a charm, as long as TB is running. I had set 'auto-refresh' for each of this

image INSIDE an e-mail problems

2005-07-05 Thread Cees
Hetisdinsdag5juli2005en13:30:03uur: Hallotbbeta, Ihaveastrangeproblem,apparently I'monthisYahoo-e-maillistFZ20(Panasonicdigitalphotocamera)andone of the listrules is that you put your image INSIDE the e-mail through the paperclip option. "Of course" most of the listmembers

v 36 reply problem

2005-07-05 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Battyfolk, I haven't been following the list so may he repeating a bug report: ctrlenter doesn't seem to include the original msg in the reply. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.5.36, BayesIt! 0.8.1, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329

Re: 3.5.36

2005-07-05 Thread 9Val
Hi Tony, TB Tried 36 and very first message... No Message Loaded. Went for a bath, TB made a cup of tea, cooked spaghetti bolognese, cut the grass, washed and TB polished the car, repointed the chimney stack and when I came back the very TB same message wasn't loaded still? And were there

Re: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Tony! On Monday, July 04, 2005, 3:29 AM, you wrote: So, wait for a response from 9Val, I have enough trouble scraping dead fly's off my windscreen, can you imagine the mess a pig would make? Do you mean that you expect to hear from 9Val only when pigs fly? Get your camera ready then,

Re[2]: How Do I Repair My IMAP database?

2005-07-05 Thread 9Val
Hello Manuel, An error occurred while reading the message base ...\Fastmail (IMAP)\55DBCDFF.TBB. Do you want to repair the message base now? This error message is a bit silly, perhaps we need to discuss these messages in IMAP accounts in general with the developers. Everything is on the

Re[2]: 3.5.36

2005-07-05 Thread 9Val
Hello Bill, (2) Refreshing a virtual Watched folder causes the Sent Mail folder to be checked. This may be WAD but it is annoying. If you mean chat folder (or watch replies) - it is WAD Simple virtual folder shouldn't have such behaviour --

Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5.34 is now available

2005-07-05 Thread 9Val
Hello Tony, [-] IMAP: probably fixes of AVs [-] IMAP: folder counters re-work Probably? You mean you don't know if you've fixed it? Yes, probably. I never had that AV's so fixes are *supposed* to fix them, but I couldn't check and say for sure. The Message delete process? ?

Re[2]: IMAP don'ts to get things working better

2005-07-05 Thread 9Val
Hello Allie, TB!'s parking and flagging are not standard. It is wrong suggestion - TB! uses standard flags both for flagging and parking. I haven't tried to do this, but I think when you delete the HTML component, you're deleting the HTML component from the cached copy of the message and

Re: 3.5.36

2005-07-05 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Tony! On Tuesday, July 05, 2005, 3:13 AM, you wrote: But this beta isn't just IMAP fixes, is it? It was supposed to be yes, at least that was the promise made by RL at the end of the last beta cycle. Note Goncalo's wording in the above quote: isn't just IMAP fixes. I think that here

Re: 3.5.36

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
--On 5 July 2005 15:58:24 +0300 9Val [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And were there requests in connection centre? I have no idea. I installed 36, booted it up and it just sits there inanimate as it has done ever since I started using IMAP. For me nothing has improved. I have a very small mail

Re: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
--On 5 July 2005 08:11:15 -0500 Mary Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you mean that you expect to hear from 9Val only when pigs fly? The speed at which you Americans catch on never ceases to amaze me :) And he has! mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I know, what a shock! You should see the mess

Re: Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5.34 is now available

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
--On 5 July 2005 16:19:22 +0300 9Val [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, probably. I never had that AV's so fixes are *supposed* to fix them, but I couldn't check and say for sure. And in all sincerity I can say I have never had them either. I had one or two once but can't remember what for

Re[2]: 3.5.36

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello Tony, Allie explained to me the way TB's IMAP works compared to other IMAP clients and it seems to me it works the complete opposite to everything else. I'm not a programmer but that seems a bit suss to me. The word you were looking for is: invention :) So, if it is

Ritlabs.com

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Can you access the site now? I cannot... -- Vili Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -

Re: Re[2]: 3.5.36

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
--On 5 July 2005 10:09:00 -0400 Vili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The word you were looking for is: invention :) So, if it is different, it can be good or bad... I've read and reread what I wrote and nowhere can I substitute any word I wrote for the word invention so you've either lost me

Re[4]: The Bat! 3.5.34 is now available

2005-07-05 Thread Allie Martin
On Tuesday, July 05, 2005, at 09:04 AM, Tony Boom wrote: Are there requests in queue when it occurs? How do you view messages (main window, ticker)? I never look at the Connection Centre and I only ever read the preview pane, never use the ticker. Well then, are you going to assist by

Re: Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5.34 is now available

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
--On 5 July 2005 16:19:22 +0300 9Val [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there requests in queue when it occurs? How do you view messages (main window, ticker)? Maybe a picture might be worth a thousand words. As you can see from the screen shot my TBBETA folder has 101 messages in it. I

SOT Re: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Tony! On Tuesday, July 05, 2005, 8:59 AM, you wrote: Do you mean that you expect to hear from 9Val only when pigs fly? The speed at which you Americans catch on never ceases to amaze me :) Oh, I'm unusually quick! lol I did read your meaning immediately, but I was just lying in wait for

Re: Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5.34 is now available

2005-07-05 Thread Allie Martin
Hi Tony, On 05/07/2005 03:29 PM +0100, you wrote: Maybe a picture might be worth a thousand words. As you can see from the screen shot my TBBETA folder has 101 messages in it. I highlighted one and got the expected result... No Message Loaded. Displayed the CC for you to see for yourself

Re: 3.5.36

2005-07-05 Thread Allie Martin
Hi Tony, On 05/07/2005 02:55 PM +0100, you wrote: Allie explained to me the way TB's IMAP works compared to other IMAP clients and it seems to me it works the complete opposite to everything else. I'm not a programmer but that seems a bit suss to me. It doesn't work the complete opposite

Re: Re[2]: IMAP don'ts to get things working better

2005-07-05 Thread Allie Martin
Hi 9Val, On 05/07/2005 04:19 PM +0300, you wrote: TB!'s parking and flagging are not standard. It is wrong suggestion - TB! uses standard flags both for flagging and parking. Which one does it use for parking? I see that the standard 'flag' for marking a message as 'important' is what

IMAP problems

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello tbbeta, I setup an IMAP account. Could someone collect me the problems with IMAP, so I can test them? So far, it seems to be ok... I am using IMAPing from easymail.hu. -- Vili Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: Re[4]: The Bat! 3.5.34 is now available

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
On 5 Jul 2005, at 15:29, Allie Martin wrote: Create a text file called protocol.ini and save it to the directory for your IMAP account. I already did that a month ago when he asked for it. If you remember at first he denied all knowledge of me ever sending it so I sent it again... All 7

Re: SOT Re: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
On 5 Jul 2005, at 15:35, Mary Bull wrote: Oh, oh! I'm invited for dinner, when you cook what they find? :) Couldn't catch them quick enough before they swallowed them. I tried putting a very tight leather strap around their neck so they couldn't swallow them but they kept turning blue

Re: Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5.34 is now available

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
On 5 Jul 2005, at 15:39, Allie Martin wrote: I guess the next thing to do would be to enable the debug logging and sending it to 9Val. Like I said before, how many copies of my logs will he need? -- Tony. M2 Current beta is

Re: IMAP problems

2005-07-05 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Tuesday, July 5, 2005, 10:28:39 AM, Vili wrote: I setup an IMAP account. Could someone collect me the problems with IMAP, so I can test them? It would be interesting to take a survey. There are some people who report constant and intolerable problems with their IMAP, and others who find it

Re: 3.5.36

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
On 5 Jul 2005, at 15:43, Allie Martin wrote: It doesn't work the complete opposite to everything else. This is simply not true. Mulberry collects headers and displays email instantly here without *any* noticeable delays. The Bat doesn't display them at all here, all I get is no message

Re[2]: 3.5.36

2005-07-05 Thread Allie Martin
On Tuesday, July 05, 2005, at 10:46 AM, Tony Boom wrote: Mulberry collects headers and displays email instantly here without *any* noticeable delays. The Bat doesn't display them at all here, all I get is no message loaded for hours at a time. I'd say that was pretty much the complete

Re: IMAP problems

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
On 5 Jul 2005, at 16:28, Vili wrote: I setup an IMAP account. Could someone collect me the problems with IMAP, so I can test them? So far, it seems to be ok... I am using IMAPing from easymail.hu. A few things you can test for me. Do you ever get No message loaded and then it just sits

Re[4]: The Bat! 3.5.34 is now available

2005-07-05 Thread Allie Martin
On Tuesday, July 05, 2005, at 10:41 AM, Tony Boom wrote: Like I said before, how many copies of my logs will he need? I'd send a 'short one' again. After deleting the debug log file if you currently have one already: Start TB! with debug logging enabled. Wait for 10 seconds, then select an

Re: Re[2]: 3.5.36

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
On 5 Jul 2005, at 16:54, Allie Martin wrote: Ah. I mistook you for being serious. My apologies. I was being serious. You told me TB caches all it's IMAP mail and needs the cache constantly clearing whereas Berry and Mail for example don't use a cache. Or words to that effect? --

Re[2]: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello Tony, I have this No message loaded screen also. But it is because I am not connected to the server. If I connect, no problem. Isnt it your problem, too? I have to admit, that I didnt manage to figure out yet, how this automatic connecting and disconnecting to the server is

Re[2]: IMAP problems

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello Tony, I setup an IMAP account. Could someone collect me the problems with IMAP, so I can test them? So far, it seems to be ok... I am using IMAPing from easymail.hu. A few things you can test for me. I will Do you ever get No message loaded and then it just sits there. See my

Re: Re[2]: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
--On 5 July 2005 12:17:47 -0400 Vili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have this No message loaded screen also. But it is because I am not connected to the server. If I connect, no problem. Isnt it your problem, too? And therein lies the problem, mine should be permanently connected or at least

Re: Re[2]: IMAP problems

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
--On 5 July 2005 12:20:45 -0400 Vili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This last half sentence was unnecessary. Be positive: I am on this, so it will be solved :) Be careful of those pigs, they're putting jet engines in them now :) -- Tony. i.

Re[4]: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Michael Acklin
Tuesday, July 5, 2005, 11:30:36 AM, (Internet Time - @729) you wrote: Hello Tony, TB And therein lies the problem, mine should be permanently connected or at TB least it should connect whenever needed. Mulberry does, Mail 2.0 does, The TB bat doesn't. It doesn't seem to be aggressive enough and

Re: Ritlabs.com

2005-07-05 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Vili, On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:10:06 -0400 GMT(7/5/2005, 9:10 AM -0600 GMT), per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Vili wrote: Can you access the site now? I cannot... http://www.ritlabs.com/ works fine for me. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600

Re[4]: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello Tony, (and 9Val: the mail contains some reproducible error descriptions to locate the problem, see below) I have this No message loaded screen also. But it is because I am not connected to the server. If I connect, no problem. Isnt it your problem, too? And therein lies the problem,

Re[2]: Ritlabs.com

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello Greg, On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:10:06 -0400 GMT(7/5/2005, 9:10 AM -0600 GMT), per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Vili wrote: Can you access the site now? I cannot... http://www.ritlabs.com/ works fine for me. Thanks, it was down for some hours, when I tried to reach it. -- Vili

Re: How Do I Repair My IMAP database?

2005-07-05 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hello 9Val, On Tuesday, 05 Juli 2005 at 03:19 PM you (9Val) wrote: An error occurred while reading the message base ...\Fastmail (IMAP)\55DBCDFF.TBB. Do you want to repair the message base now? This error message is a bit silly, perhaps we need to discuss these messages in IMAP

Delete IMAP account, AV, reproducible

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello tbbeta, I should be ashamed of it :), but at least i caught an AV. I thought, I recreate my IMAP account. I was still connected (rookie mistake :) and maybe an email also was opened from that account... Account, Delete, Wipe message base. AV, AV... Yes, normally you dont do that,

IMAP account, Drafts, bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello tbbeta, So, I reset my IMAP account, and did this: Manage IMAP folders, Reset list, and I checked Subscribed and Synchronize (Headers only) for all of my mailbox, which are: Inbox.Test (now I have only one from it :) Drafts Sent Mail Spam (my provider makes a spam filtering too) Trash I

Re: Re[4]: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
--On 5 July 2005 11:41:25 -0500 Michael Acklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did try Alie's suggestion with adding the commands Connect to Server and Disconnect to Server on my menu bar. And that helps with correcting the number of messages read and unread and deleting them. But they're just

Re: Re[4]: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
--On 5 July 2005 13:39:45 -0400 Vili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, try this: Yes, it is all very useful info but it's the hoops and gyrations that one shouldn't need to go through just to read an email. I may have been to the odd circus or two when I was young but the Flying Wilberries I'm

Re[4]: The Bat! 3.5.34 is now available

2005-07-05 Thread 9Val
Hello Tony, Maybe a picture might be worth a thousand words. As you can see from the screen shot my TBBETA folder has 101 messages in it. I highlighted one and got the expected result... No Message Loaded. Displayed the CC for you to see for yourself and it will sit like that doing nothing

Re: IMAP problems

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
--On 5 July 2005 11:28:39 -0400 Vili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I setup an IMAP account. So, I reset my IMAP account, and did this: BUT I COULD NOT OPEN IT AGAIN... So, summary: IMAP is unuseful, really, as far as I see... Having fun? :) -- Tony. i.

Re: Re[4]: The Bat! 3.5.34 is now available

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
--On 5 July 2005 20:16:36 +0300 9Val [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK. Next step is to see if something changes after message selecting. I.e. does anything appear or flash in CC after another message selection? I'll have a look and get back to you. BTW, there is no selected message on

IMAP account, Drafts, bug 2.

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello tbbeta, Sorry, if I am boring you guys... So: I logged in to my IMAP account on the web. It shows 100 mails, all read in my inbox. This is exactly what I see in my IMAP log. BUT: 96 messages show up in my Inbox, only, in TB! What is wrong, my syncronization? I selected Headers only

Re[2]: IMAP problems

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello Tony, I setup an IMAP account. So, I reset my IMAP account, and did this: BUT I COULD NOT OPEN IT AGAIN... So, summary: IMAP is unuseful, really, as far as I see... Having fun? :) :)) I will solve the problems, and then you HAVE TO USE TB!. That is my motivation :))) --

Re: IMAP account, Drafts, bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Clive Taylor
--On 5/07/2005 14:03 -0400 Vili wrote: So, summary: IMAP is unuseful, really, as far as I see... The logic is ok, but it is unreliable Welcome to the dark side! You will now be told by a number of users that there is no problem with TB's IMAP and that it's your fault/your computer/your

Re[6]: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello Tony, --On 5 July 2005 13:39:45 -0400 Vili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, try this: Yes, it is all very useful info but it's the hoops and gyrations that one shouldn't need to go through just to read an email. I may have been to the odd circus or two when I was young but the Flying

Re[2]: IMAP account, Drafts, bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello Clive, --On 5/07/2005 14:03 -0400 Vili wrote: So, summary: IMAP is unuseful, really, as far as I see... The logic is ok, but it is unreliable Welcome to the dark side! You will now be told by a number of users that there is no problem with TB's IMAP and that it's your fault/your

Re[2]: IMAP account, Drafts, bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello Clive, Welcome to the dark side! One more sentence: I dont mind to be there, if we are CONSTRUCTIVE. -- Vili Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To

IMAP account, Drafts, bug 2a.

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello tbbeta, I wrote: My online Drafts folder shows 2 mails. My local, that is assigned to Inbox.Drafts on the IMAP server, shows nothing... My log shows: IMAP - 1: The folder INBOX.Drafts selected. 0 recent, 0 unread out of 2 total messages So, where is that 2 mails? It seems, that the server

Re: Re[6]: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
--On 5 July 2005 15:08:00 -0400 Vili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the It does not work does not help too much... Neither does Why don't it work answers from RL. They're the programmers, not me, I don't know why it don't work... Or rather I do know why it don't work but people wouldn't like it

IMAP account, Drafts, bug 2b.

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello tbbeta, I wrote: My online Drafts folder shows 2 mails. My local, that is assigned to Inbox.Drafts on the IMAP server, shows nothing... My log shows: IMAP - 1: The folder INBOX.Drafts selected. 0 recent, 0 unread out of 2 total messages So, where is that 2 mails? It seems, that the

Re[8]: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello Tony, the It does not work does not help too much... Neither does Why don't it work answers from RL. They're the programmers, not me, I don't know why it don't work... Or rather I do know why it don't work but people wouldn't like it if I said it on here. Next time write something like

Re: IMAP account, Drafts, bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Tuesday, July 5, 2005, 2:05:38 PM, Clive Taylor wrote: it's your fault/your computer/your mail server etc. Well... we know better don't we. No, I don't think we know anything one way or the other. Debugging is about considering all the possibilities. Not about oneupspersonship. --

Re: Re[8]: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
--On 5 July 2005 15:32:04 -0400 Vili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next time write something like this: I sincerely hope your joking and not telling me what I can and what I can't write to this list? It is REPRODUCIBLE, I did this: 1.. 2.. 3.. .. X. 1.. I loaded up The Bat. 2.. It

Re: IMAP account, Drafts, bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
--On 5 July 2005 14:54:51 -0500 Dwight A Corrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not about oneupspersonship. I'm so glad I got a Mac, it looks like PC has really gone mad :) -- Tony. i. Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re[10]: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello Tony, Next time write something like this: I sincerely hope your joking and not telling me what I can and what I can't write to this list? Tony, give me a rest :). I am not an Englishman, so if I dont choose the right words, dont jump on me! It was a SUGGESTION, I dont want to

Re: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Tuesday, July 5, 2005, 2:55:53 PM, Tony Boom wrote: Next time write something like this: I sincerely hope your joking and not telling me what I can and what I can't write to this list? It is REPRODUCIBLE, I did this: 1.. 2.. 3.. .. X. I don't want to speak for Vili, but I think the

Re: IMAP account, Drafts, bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Tuesday, July 5, 2005, 2:57:43 PM, Tony Boom wrote: Not about oneupspersonship. I'm so glad I got a Mac, it looks like PC has really gone mad Just thought it was about the right time of day to try coining a new word. Guess it needed a smiley? -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita

Re[4]: 3.5.36

2005-07-05 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : TB --On 5 July 2005 10:09:00 -0400 Vili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The word you were looking for is: invention :) So, if it is different, it can be good or bad... TB I've read and reread what I wrote and nowhere can I substitute any TB word I wrote for

Re: IMAP account, Drafts, bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Clive, Tuesday, July 5, 2005, 9:05:38 PM, you wrote: CT Welcome to the dark side! You will now be told by a number of users that CT there is no problem with TB's IMAP and that it's your fault/your CT computer/your mail server etc. Well... we know better don't we. It even gets worse.

Re: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
--On 5 July 2005 15:14:39 -0500 Dwight A Corrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. I loaded up The Bat. 2.. It displayed No Message Loaded and then sat there all day doing nothing. 3.. I closed The Bat down, Loaded up Mulberry and then sat reading my email within seconds. is not going to

Re: IMAP account, Drafts, bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Tony Boom
--On 5 July 2005 15:17:15 -0500 Dwight A Corrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just thought it was about the right time of day to try coining a new word. Guess it needed a smiley? It needed something, punctuation or hyphenation, it took me two minutes to work out what it said... Good stuff

Re[2]: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Next time write something like this: I sincerely hope your joking and not telling me what I can and what I can't write to this list? It is REPRODUCIBLE, I did this: 1.. 2.. 3.. .. X. I don't want to speak for Vili, but I think the desire is for specific enough information that

Re[2]: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello Tony, But I don't know any way to make the above events sound more technical. Nine times out of ten the above sequence is **exactly** what happens. Four mause clicks, that's all it takes for me to reproduce the above... Click 1. Fires up The Bat! Click 2. Selects a message I want to

Re: IMAP account, Drafts, bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Clive Taylor
--On 5/07/2005 14:54 -0500 Dwight wrote: Debugging is about considering all the possibilities. Not about oneupspersonship. Sorry, that doesn't make any sense at all to me. -- Clive Taylor Current beta is 3.5.36 | 'Using TBBETA'

Re: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hello Vili, On Tuesday, 05 Juli 2005 at 11:10 PM you (Vili) wrote: the IMAP server (which I think is unreliable, as I see so far...) The service Fastmail, which uses a Cyrus Server, isn't unreliable. To be fair, it's the most reliable server I've had so far. Moreover, it's the fastest also.

Re: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Tuesday, July 5, 2005, 4:29:40 PM, Manuel Breitfeld wrote: The service Fastmail, which uses a Cyrus Server, isn't unreliable. To be fair, it's the most reliable server I've had so far. Moreover, it's the fastest also. Take another look at Vili's message. It says he is suspicious of the

Re: IMAP account, Drafts, bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Clive Taylor
--On 5/07/2005 22:36 +0200 Mark wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if more and more providers will take a similar decision leaving only specialised companies offering it (for an extra charge). I don't know where you're based Mark (Belgium?) but here in the UK I'm not aware of any mainstream ISP

Re[2]: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, The service Fastmail, which uses a Cyrus Server, isn't unreliable. To be fair, it's the most reliable server I've had so far. Moreover, it's the fastest also. Take another look at Vili's message. It says he is suspicious of the CONNECTION not of the server. I would add that

Re[2]: IMAP account, Drafts, bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Vili
Hello Clive, --On 5/07/2005 22:36 +0200 Mark wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if more and more providers will take a similar decision leaving only specialised companies offering it (for an extra charge). I don't know where you're based Mark (Belgium?) but here in the UK I'm not aware of any

Re[10]: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Paul Van Noord
7/5/2005 5:57 PM Hi Tony, On 7/5/2005 Tony Boom wrote: TB --On 5 July 2005 15:32:04 -0400 Vili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next time write something like this: TB I sincerely hope your joking and not telling me what I can and what I can't TB write to this list? It is REPRODUCIBLE, I did

Re: IMAP account, Drafts, bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Clive, Tuesday, July 5, 2005, 11:37:20 PM, you wrote: CT I don't know where you're based Mark (Belgium?) Yes CT but here in the UK I'm not aware of any mainstream ISP CT offering IMAP mail services. Tiscali did offer it, but their belgian division has been sold to Scarlet that does not

Re[3]: IMAP account, Drafts, bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Allie Martin
On Tuesday, July 05, 2005, at 02:10 PM, Vili wrote: My goal is to UNDERSTAND the differences between my system and their system. This is how a bug can be caught For me, it's one of not using the Inbox.draft as my Outbox. While using TB! in its current state of development, a server side

Re: IMAP account, Drafts, bug 2a.

2005-07-05 Thread Allie Martin
On Tuesday, July 05, 2005, at 02:17 PM, Vili wrote: My log shows: IMAP - 1: The folder INBOX.Drafts selected. 0 recent, 0 unread out of 2 total messages So, where is that 2 mails? It seems, that the server send the info, that this mailbox has 2 mails, I have seen 2 for a sec beside the

Stramge headers .. bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Beta folk, I have started to see a number of messages from this particular source coming through with unlisted headers. They're not filtering right either. Is it the newfangled DomainKeys headers causing confusion? Or is it to do with Unicode format? The source clearly shows From, To and

Re: Stramge headers .. bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Gary
Hi Marck, On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:08:02 +0100 UTC (7/5/2005, 8:08 PM -0500 UTC my time), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: M I have started to see a number of messages from this particular source M coming through with unlisted headers. They're not filtering right M either. very strange M Is it the

Re: Stramge headers .. bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Gary, @5-Jul-2005, 20:20 -0500 (06-Jul 02:20 UK time) Gary [G] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: ... snip M Is it the newfangled DomainKeys headers causing confusion? G I don't think so, as both you and I are running DK without G problems. Well, sort of ... except I lost those mails

Re: Stramge headers .. bug?

2005-07-05 Thread Gary
Hi Marck, --On Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:35 AM +0100 you wrote in part: ... snip M Is it the newfangled DomainKeys headers causing confusion? G I don't think so, as both you and I are running DK without G problems. Well, sort of ... except I lost those mails you sent me with the how to on

Re: IMAP problems

2005-07-05 Thread Natasha V Pearce
Hi Tony Delete a few messages from an IMAP folder then move to another IMAP folder and back again and then browse deleted messages to see if they actually are deleted. They're not. Purge+Compress removes them if selected from the Folder menu, but they're not removed automatically

Re: IMAP No Message Loaded [was Re: 3.5.36]

2005-07-05 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hey Vili, yesterday (on 07/05/2005 at 23:53) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take another look at Vili's message. It says he is suspicious of the CONNECTION not of the server. I would add that yes, the fastmail server seems very reliable and works very well here with TB!. Dwight is right, I