Re[2]: Microed plalintext Editor/Viewer does not recognise full URL
Hello Thomas, Friday, May 8, 2020, 11:51:30 AM, you wrote: > Funny thing though, I tried to Export my initial message using Tools / > Export Messages To... in order to attach it to the bug report, but the > .msg file was never created in the target folder. I used to export > messages in the past, so I am wondering whether this is a new bug, > kindly check. I have tried saving it as .EML and it worked just fine. -- Regards, A 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Microed plalintext Editor/Viewer does not recognise full URL
Hello Andrew, On Fri, 8 May 2020 11:17:08 +0930 GMT (08-May-20, 8:47 +0700 GMT), Andrew Savchenko wrote: > Hello Thomas, > Friday, May 8, 2020, 11:13:09 AM, you wrote: >> So, they are not clickable by the recipient using TB. Can anybody confirm? > Confirmed, v9.1.18. Bug report? Done: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2014 Funny thing though, I tried to Export my initial message using Tools / Export Messages To... in order to attach it to the bug report, but the .msg file was never created in the target folder. I used to export messages in the past, so I am wondering whether this is a new bug, kindly check. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.1.18.2 (BETA) (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Microed plalintext Editor/Viewer does not recognise full URL
Hello Thomas, Friday, May 8, 2020, 11:13:09 AM, you wrote: > So, they are not clickable by the recipient using TB. Can anybody confirm? Confirmed, v9.1.18. Bug report? -- Regards, A 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Microed plalintext Editor/Viewer does not recognise full URL
Hello TBETA, I was just writing an Email and noticed that the last character of a URL is not recognised if it is a right peranthesis. Examples: [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veronica_(search_engine) [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_(search_engine) [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_(protocol) So, they are not clickable by the recipient using TB. Can anybody confirm? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.1.18.2 (BETA) (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Real names not displayed correctly
Hello Andrew, On Thu, 7 May 2020 23:51:13 +0930 GMT (07-May-20, 21:21 +0700 GMT), Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> Some powers are more powerful than RFCs. > What are you proposing here, change the laws to suit the largest player? No, I am suggesting to consider practicability over insistance on the RFCs in exceptional cases. Making the product more usable. The RFCs are not "laws", by the way. > I believe that response from Maxim was crystal clear: >>> This is intentional behaviour, to address the Mailsploit issue. >>> . >>> Otherwise, it would have allowed effective sender spoofing in The Bat! > Is that what you want? Excuse me, if HSBC sends you an email, stating that a Nigerian prince wants to send you millions of dollars, do you believe it? If so, you do need to be protected from sender spoofing. Most people don't, and most people use email clients that display the QP-encoded headers correctly. And guess what, I even get emails from spoofed senders that are not QP-encoded. Now what? Not displaying any From addresses any more? It may not matter in your world, because you are not doing business with China (biggest country in the world by population, second biggest by size of economy), but a great percentage of the world population (current or potential customers of Ritlabs) does. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.1.18.2 (BETA) (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Real names not displayed correctly
Hello Thomas, Thursday, May 7, 2020, 11:36:19 PM, you wrote: > Some powers are more powerful than RFCs. What are you proposing here, change the laws to suit the largest player? I believe that response from Maxim was crystal clear: >> This is intentional behaviour, to address the Mailsploit issue. >> . >> Otherwise, it would have allowed effective sender spoofing in The Bat! Is that what you want? -- Regards, A 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Real names not displayed correctly
Title: Re: Real names not displayed correctly Hello Lüko, On Thu, 7 May 2020 14:24:44 +0200 GMT (07-May-20, 19:24 +0700 GMT), Lüko Willms wrote: > One of the biggest email providers in the biggest country of the world > (by population) is more than just "a single mail server". Sorry. Still just one mailserver. But ... could it be that the culprit is not the SMTP-Server but the mail program of your correspondent? Is there a "X-mailer" header in the mail? X-QQ-MIME: TCMime 1.0 by Tencent X-Mailer: QQMail 2.x X-QQ-Mailer: QQMail 2.x > But maybe you can talk to their postmaster and tell them they have to > change their settings, I am sure they will listen to your wisdom. In > the meantime, I cannot use TheBat when doing business with them. Why don't you contact them? qq.com is actually made by Tencent: http://www.tencent.com/en-us/index.html Yes, and Tencent is one of the biggest tech companies in the world. They will certainly listen to me when I tell them that they need to change their RFC-headers. I just went through a month-long discussion with GMX, the biggest email provider in Europe, about one of their settings. The end was that they finally understood that there is something wrong with their settings, and that they will relay it to their tech department (of course I could only talk to customer service). I am a paying customer there. GMX are most likely a microscopic company compared to Tencent. I don't have any comparison figures for QQ Mail, but would not be surprised if they could swallow GMX many times over in terms of number of users. And I am not a paying customer at QQ Mail, I am not even a user. I am jsut a recipient of emails from a small number of their millions and millions of users, and the recipients of emails sent by QQ Mail who have problems with the header they send is microscopic, proabably below detection level. I just don't believe that they will follow my suggestions, even if I they tell them they are just only one mailserver and they have to adapt. They won't, and that is a fact we'll have to work with. Some powers are more powerful than RFCs. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.1.18.2 (BETA) (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Real names not displayed correctly
Hello everybody, on Mittwoch, 6. Mai 2020 at 15:38 Thomas Fernandez wrote re Real names not displayed correctly > One of the biggest email providers in the biggest country of the world > (by population) is more than just "a single mail server". Sorry. Still just one mailserver. But ... could it be that the culprit is not the SMTP-Server but the mail program of your correspondent? Is there a "X-mailer" header in the mail? > But maybe you can talk to their postmaster and tell them they have to > change their settings, I am sure they will listen to your wisdom. In > the meantime, I cannot use TheBat when doing business with them. Why don't you contact them? qq.com is actually made by Tencent: http://www.tencent.com/en-us/index.html Cheers, Lüko Willms Frankfurt am Main Germany using: TheBat! 8.8.9.12 (BETA) OS: Windows 7(NT 6.1 Build 7601 - Service Pack 1) CPU: AMD amd athlon(tm) 64 x2 dual core processor 4200+ MEM: 4097 MB 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: OT: German The Bat! forum "batboard.net" seems to be down
Hello Gwen, Thursday, May 7, 2020, 3:09:40 AM, you wrote: > I mailed to the admin of the server. I hope he gets it. It is up now. Could you please check with them if there is a publicly-available backup of the forum DB? It would be rather unfortunate to loose all the valuable information if forum goes down forever. -- Regards, A 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
