Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC3 is now available

2005-05-06 Thread Kian Andersen
9Val ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 [-] Other : Possible solution of AVs on deleting

Can not confirm, I still get AVs on deleting messages!

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC3 is now available

2005-05-06 Thread Krzysztof Kud³acik
2005-05-05|23:18  you wrote:

 Sorry, cannot use this version - hangs and freezes when sending/recieving.

Fully confirmed. I downgrade to RC2.

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Re: 3.5RC4 (!!!) a preview of issues to be tested

2005-05-06 Thread Anton
Hello,

eToken not works again with 3.5RC3 (this issue is not in your list)


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Friday, May 6, 2005, 3:12:41 AM, you wrote:

PO Hello TBBETA,

PO The subject is clear enough, IMHO.

PO Apart from the new RC3 show stopper, all other issues are based on RC2
PO testing.



PO Newly encountered issue(s):

PO Show Stoppers:
PO ==

PO - 3.5RC3 freezes
PO   lots of reports, starting with
PO   mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


PO User Interface:
PO ===

PO - Sort by isn't saved completely.
PO   Click to column flag (in message list)
PO   Ctrl+Click to column created
PO   Change folder (save view mode)
PO   Go back: Second sort criteria (created) is lost.


PO - Deleted Messages window:
PO   - The Del-key, as mentioned in the context menu of the message list,
PO does not undelete messages.


PO - Reply to All quoting selected text
PO   is shown as Reply to All (the second one) in context menus




PO Non-fixed issues:


PO Show Stoppers:
PO ==

PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO   mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO   1. Open Customise
PO   2. Change something
PO   4. X the window
PO   5. Answer Yes to 'apply changes'
PO   6. Results:


PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO   Change language crashes TheBat!




PO Customise:
PO ==

PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO   Customise AV
PO   1. Open Customise
PO   2. Select Standard (toolbar)
PO   3. Select ConnectionCenter - Delete (or any other Aviailable Item)
PO   4. Select Container: Main Form
PO   5. Add selected Item
PO   6. Have an AV for that.


PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO   In Customise|Available Items|mEdit
PO   there are two entries Left, one with icon and one without - guess
PO   one is enough.
PO   In Customise|Available Items|PopMgr
PO   there seems to be lot of duplicates of Read|Receive|Delete|open


PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO   Customize menu isn't resize able, but that would be very useful and
PO   it seems that it should be resize able.
PO   3.0.9.13
PO   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO   Available items pane is a too narrow
PO   3.5RC2:
PO   - The window can be resized
PO   - 'Available Items' and 'Current Items' are not resized.


PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO   Toolbar customis/zation:
PO   (... older fixed items removed ...)
PO   3.0.9.18:
PO   - items seem to be displayed at their initial place (the right) as
PO by default assigned in Customise window (at the bottom).
PO   - by default, my TB isn't using the full screen. After adding some
PO items to 'Standard (Toolbar)', and the toolbar not being able to
PO show all items, added items may just be displayed 'half' or not at
PO all, i.e. 'More Buttons' isn't working correctly at that moment.
PO After Maximize / Restore the 'More Buttons' appears to be working
PO correctly.
PO   3.5RC2:
PO   - Can't check this, see
PO mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




PO User Interface:
PO ===

PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
POESC key doesn't remove filter in message list in VF. You have to
POselect View/Display/All messages (or Ctrl+=).


PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
POCtrl+double click a message in virtual folder no longer acts as
POfollow. The option in context menu works though.


PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO   Ctrl+LMB behaviour in account/folder tree selections:
PO   - In an account/folder tree Ctrl+LMB normally selects the current
PO item (account or folder) and its child items (folders)
PO   - In the [Folder | Check for Viruses] window, this behaviour is
PO reversed, i.e. it only selects the current item. Just LMB selects
PO the current item and its child items.
PO   = Inconsistent behaviour.


PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO   New (Common) Virtual / Chat Folder behaviour:
PO   Encountered while testing
PO mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO   1. Create a
PO  - Virtual Folder
PO  - Chat Folder
PO  - Common Virtual Folder
PO  - Common Chat Folder
PO   2. Check the HD, note they are created.
PO   3. Restart TB, because the Common Virtual Folder and
PO  Common Chat Folder won't show in TB otherwise.
PO   4. Delete the folders created in step 1.
PO   5. Check the HD, note they are removed.
PO   6. Exit TB.
PO   7. Check the HD again. The created, then deleted folders are back
PO  again (here, they also contain the file msgs.dump). According
PO  to the folder/file timestamps they were created when TB exited.
PO   = Unwanted behaviour.


PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO   TB would not show a newly created VF until the program was
PO   restarted.
PO   3.5RC2:
PO   Not fixed for:
PO   - New Common Virtual Folder
PO   - New Common Chat Folder


PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO   View mode option: New thread sorting is broken as mentioned in
PO   mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED].


PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO   Address Viewer: lost tool-bar
PO   1. Open Address Viewer window.
PO   2. Float its tool-bar.
PO   3. X the tool-bar.
PO   4. It can't be restored
PO   (same behaviour as earlier 

Re: Hangs and freezes [was Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC3 is now available]

2005-05-06 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Mary,

Friday, May 6, 2005, 12:43:32 AM, among other things, you wrote:

MB Although I'm sending/receiving just fine--unlike reports from some
MB others--every time that I select the first mail in a folder after a
MB download, TB! hangs, freezes, has to be killed with Windows Task
MB Manager.

MB Upon re-launch, I can select and read messages normally.

Exactly my experience too.


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total disappointment

2005-05-06 Thread Vilius umskas
Hello,
just wanted to say that I don't understand one thing. How such bugs
like that one in RC3 (that makes The Bat freeze on startup) makes it's
way to beta place and this list? I mean, come on guys, have you ever
test compiled EXE file on your OWN machines? At least run a test that
it is executable!
I'm very disappointed with such bad unimaginable way of management.
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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC3 is now available

2005-05-06 Thread Tony Boom
On Thursday 05 May 2005 22:46, Peter Ouwehand wrote:

PO Confirmed, RC3 is unusable.

Here too. It's a long while since I had to use the three knuckle shuffle to 
close The Bat!. It downloaded fine but as soon as I went to read an unread 
message.. Well, see attachment.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC3 is now available

2005-05-06 Thread Prezes
Hello,
Thursday, May 5, 2005, 11:18:28 PM, you wrote:

SF Sorry, cannot use this version - hangs and freezes when
SF sending/recieving.  No error message generated.  Windows error
SF details generated -:

Fully confirmed :-(

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Re: total disappointment

2005-05-06 Thread Kian Andersen
On 5/6/05, Vilius umskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm very disappointed with such bad unimaginable way of management.

I have to agree on this one, 
I am using Web mail until further improvements are made!
AVs on deleting, Crash on Start up that's just not right!

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC3 is now available

2005-05-06 Thread Ming Chang
Hello 9Val,

Friday, May 6, 2005, 5:07:54 AM, you wrote:

9 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC3 is now available from:
9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

Why is the Advanced search mode removed from message finder in RC3? IMO, it's
very handy and powerful.

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The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 is now available

2005-05-06 Thread 9Val
Hi All,

The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 is now available from:
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

It fixes freezes on receiving message on POP3

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC3 is now available

2005-05-06 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Friday, May 6, 2005, Ming Chang wrote:

9 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC3 is now available from:
9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

 Why is the Advanced search mode removed from message finder in
 RC3? IMO, it's very handy and powerful.

it is not finished and as I think, it will be improved in next beta
cycle.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 is now available

2005-05-06 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val,

 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
 
 It fixes freezes on receiving message on POP3

Yes, looks like it is fixed :)

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Re: total disappointment

2005-05-06 Thread MAU
Hello Vilius,

 just wanted to say that I don't understand one thing. How such bugs
 like that one in RC3 (that makes The Bat freeze on startup) makes it's
 way to beta place and this list? I mean, come on guys, have you ever
 test compiled EXE file on your OWN machines? At least run a test that
 it is executable!
 
 I'm very disappointed with such bad unimaginable way of management.

Did you ever hear the phrase Shit happens?

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 is now available

2005-05-06 Thread Bondarev [aka Baphomet]
Yes the brick will not fall down your tower, MAU!
I have seen your words to 9Val On a subject The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 is now
available, Which went to me during 18 seconds.

 It fixes freezes on receiving message on POP3
M Yes, looks like it is fixed
Confirmed!






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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC3 is now available

2005-05-06 Thread MAU
Hello Ming,

 Why is the Advanced search mode removed from message finder in RC3? IMO, 
 it's
 very handy and powerful.

I could not test with RC3 due to freezes, but it is here in RC4.

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Using TAB key to rotate focus

2005-05-06 Thread Michael Henke
Hello TB-Beta!

I usually use the TAB key to 'rotate' the focus from the message list to
the mail preview and the folder list. A few betas before I recognized
that there seems to be a *4th* state now, between the message list and
the mail preview. But *where* is the focus at this time?

Probably I've missed something, but the traffic in this list was high
during the last weeks ...

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 is now available

2005-05-06 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hello 9Val,

 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 is now available from:

I still got the anti-virus error message, see attach. But I find the
special mail, it's a message without content. With an empty message you
can examine it.

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Still getting a No message loaded error.

2005-05-06 Thread Chris Wilson

Double clicking a message in the message list, and which is shown
correctly in the preview pane, fails to launch the message full screen
with certain view modes still. Pic enclosed.

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Search: 'Any Part' doesn't seem to include Subject

2005-05-06 Thread Stuart Hemming
If I have a string I know to be in the subject of a message and
select 'Subject' and 'contains'  as the criteria in the search box my
message is found. If, however' I select 'Any Part' and 'contains' and
do the search the message is not found.

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Re: Search: 'Any Part' doesn't seem to include Subject

2005-05-06 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hi Stuart,

just now (on 05/06/2005 at 11:31) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If, however' I select 'Any Part' and 'contains' and do the search the
 message is not found.

Confirmed.

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Re: Search: 'Any Part' doesn't seem to include Subject

2005-05-06 Thread Stuart Hemming
Actually, I've just done another test, this time the text searched for
was in the body of the message and searching using 'Any part' failed
to find that one too.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 is now available

2005-05-06 Thread David Elliott
Hello 9Val,

Friday, May 6, 2005, 9:38:54 AM, you wrote:

 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

 It fixes freezes on receiving message on POP3

Running now not freezing up.

Some keyboard short cuts missing (still).

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Re: Search: 'Any Part' doesn't seem to include Subject

2005-05-06 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hi Stuart,

just now (on 05/06/2005 at 11:39) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 this time the text searched for was in the body of the message and
 searching using 'Any part' failed to find that one too.

Searched for confirmed in tbbeta folder. Both tries gave me the same
result.

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AV marking message as Junk.

2005-05-06 Thread Stuart Hemming
Got an AV when marking a message as Junk (see attached). Clicking OK
caused the same message to appear. Had to kill TB! using Task
Mangeler.

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3.5RC4 can't disable Quick Search Toolbar

2005-05-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo tbbeta,

  As I'm using TB without toolbars I generally disable them. In RC4 I
  cannot disable the Quick Search Toolbar, I was able to do so in RC2
  and previous.

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Lost 'Watch folders' in context menu

2005-05-06 Thread MAU
Hello all,

This is not specific to RC4, the problem appeared last night after I
reverted to RC2 from RC3.

I have 3 Watch folders that I use to watch threads that I am interested
in following in several mail list. Last night, while using RC2, I added
a 4th folder and later decided to delete it.

First symptom was that, after deleting the new folder, it was still
available from 'Specials/Watch replies in' menu. The second symptom and
actual problem was/is that, after re-starting TB, no watch folders are
displayed in message list context 'Specials/Watch replies in'. See
attached PNG.

I can't see the list of watch folders in RC4 either, but if I revert to
3.0.2.10 they are all there.

The summary: they _were_ available but after creating and deleting one,
they all disappeared from the menu. The folders do exist and do work
though, watching the threads that had been selected prior to this problem
appearing.

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Re: 3.5RC4 can't disable Quick Search Toolbar

2005-05-06 Thread Stuart Hemming
 In RC4 I cannot disable the Quick Search Toolbar,
No problem here. I had it disabled in RC2 and it's still
disabled/hidden now.

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Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus

2005-05-06 Thread MAU
Hello Michael,

 But *where* is the focus at this time?

Good question. I can't determine where it is.

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Re: 3.5RC4 can't disable Quick Search Toolbar

2005-05-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Roelof,

On Fri, 6 May 2005 11:51:56 +0200GMT (6-5-2005, 11:51 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RO   As I'm using TB without toolbars I generally disable them. In RC4 I
RO   cannot disable the Quick Search Toolbar, I was able to do so in RC2
RO   and previous.

I need to correct this, I can disable two out of three toolbars from
the main screen, when I end with the Quick Search, I can't delete
that, but when I end with another one, I can't disable that.

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Re: 3.5RC4 can't disable Quick Search Toolbar

2005-05-06 Thread MAU
Hello Roelof,

   As I'm using TB without toolbars I generally disable them. In RC4 I
   cannot disable the Quick Search Toolbar, I was able to do so in RC2
   and previous.

I usually have Quick Search Toolbar disabled, but I have enabled and
disabled it now with no problems.

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Re: Lost 'Watch folders' in context menu

2005-05-06 Thread MAU
Hello MAU,

 I can't see the list of watch folders in RC4 either, but if I revert to
 3.0.2.10 they are all there.

And forgot to add that this means that if I want to watch a new thread,
I have to revert to 3.0.2.10 to do it.

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Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus

2005-05-06 Thread Stuart Hemming
I think that it's done this for some time.

Points to note: If you are using the HTML viewer in the preview
window, once the focus has moved to that window, TAB moves the focus
to each hyperlink and only move to the next window once all the links
have been visited.

If the focus is in the message window and you delete the only message
in the folder the focus seems to disappear until you use the mouse to
magic it back.

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Re: 3.5RC4 can't disable Quick Search Toolbar

2005-05-06 Thread Stuart Hemming
 I need to correct this, I can disable two out of three toolbars from
 the main screen, when I end with the Quick Search, I can't delete
 that, but when I end with another one, I can't disable that.

Now that I /can/ confirm.

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Re: 3.5RC4 can't disable Quick Search Toolbar

2005-05-06 Thread Chris Wilson
Friday, May 6, 2005, 10:59:27 AM, you wrote:


 Hallo Roelof,

 On Fri, 6 May 2005 11:51:56 +0200GMT (6-5-2005, 11:51 +0200, where I
 live), you wrote:

RO   As I'm using TB without toolbars I generally disable them. In RC4 I
RO   cannot disable the Quick Search Toolbar, I was able to do so in RC2
RO   and previous.

 I need to correct this, I can disable two out of three toolbars from
 the main screen, when I end with the Quick Search, I can't delete
 that, but when I end with another one, I can't disable that.


Confirmed here, too.


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Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus

2005-05-06 Thread Chris Wilson
Friday, May 6, 2005, 11:07:45 AM, you wrote:


 I think that it's done this for some time.

 Points to note: If you are using the HTML viewer in the preview
 window, once the focus has moved to that window, TAB moves the focus
 to each hyperlink and only move to the next window once all the links
 have been visited.

 If the focus is in the message window and you delete the only message
 in the folder the focus seems to disappear until you use the mouse to
 magic it back.


It seems to focus on the lowest (physically on the page) hyperlink here, 
ignoring
higher ones.


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Re: 3.5RC4 can't disable Quick Search Toolbar

2005-05-06 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Fri, 6 May 2005, at 10:58:09 [GMT +0100] (which was 11:58 where I
live) Stuart Hemming wrote:

 In RC4 I cannot disable the Quick Search Toolbar,
 No problem here. I had it disabled in RC2 and it's still
 disabled/hidden now.


Neither here.

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STRG-G

2005-05-06 Thread Michael Henke
Hello TB-Beta!

Minor bug: You have to press STRG+G *twice* to (un)mark a message (with
flag), if you do NOT switch to another message in between. You can see
the same behaviour when using the context menue instead of the keyboard
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Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus

2005-05-06 Thread Michael Henke
Hello Stuart!

You wrote:
 [...] If you are using the HTML viewer in the preview window once the
 focus has moved to that window, TAB moves the focus to each hyperlink
 and only move to the next window once all the links have been visited.

That's right. And: Same behavior if UTF-8 is used.

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Re: Lost 'Watch folders' in context menu

2005-05-06 Thread MAU
Hello MAU,

 I can't see the list of watch folders in RC4 either, but if I revert to
 3.0.2.10 they are all there.
 
 And forgot to add that this means that if I want to watch a new thread,
 I have to revert to 3.0.2.10 to do it.

I have just found a dirty workaround. If I create a new Watch folder
then I can see the 3 existing ones plus the newly created. But if I
delete it, whether I do it with RC4 or 3.0.2.10, then I can' see any in
RC4. So, I guess that for the moment I'll have to live with 4 watch
folders instead of 3 :-(

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 is now available

2005-05-06 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Fri, 6 May 2005, at 11:38:54 [GMT +0300] (which was 10:38 where I
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Hi 9Val,

 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 is now available from:
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 It fixes freezes on receiving message on POP3

Thanks, much better. The list (Current beta..) can't keep with the
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Re: total disappointment

2005-05-06 Thread Vilius umskas
MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] ra:

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 is now available

2005-05-06 Thread Krzysztof Kud³acik
2005-05-06|10:38  you wrote:

 It fixes freezes on receiving message on POP3

Fixed here.

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Rc3

2005-05-06 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Sorry to say RC-3 has reverted to hiding get/send icons like RC-2 
connection center froze program. I've reverted to RC-1

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Re: Rc3

2005-05-06 Thread MAU
Hello Jan,

 Sorry to say RC-3 has reverted to hiding get/send icons like RC-2 
 connection center froze program. I've reverted to RC-1

Why not try RC4 which is available since a few hours ago? It is running
very smoothly here.

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Re: Rc3

2005-05-06 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Fri, 6 May 2005, at 13:59:03 [GMT +0200] (which was 13:59 where I
live) Mau wrote:

 Why not try RC4 which is available since a few hours ago? It is running
 very smoothly here.

Confirmed :-)

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Re: total disappointment

2005-05-06 Thread MAU
Hello Vilius,

 Did you ever hear the phrase Shit happens?
 
 Yes, but it is not the first time this kind of shit happens.

Maybe RIT guys eat too many prunes ;-)

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Re: Virtual folders usability

2005-05-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello George,

On Fri, 6 May 2005 08:04:12 +0300 GMT (06/05/2005, 12:04 +0700 GMT),
George M. Menegakis wrote:

GMM No, it contains just two conditions: Receive Date  01/01/2004  Receive 
Date
GMM  01/01/2005

That blows my theory apart.

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RC4 issues still open for me

2005-05-06 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello tbbeta,

  1.) Ctrl-A still does not select messages in a window if a message
  is not selected to begin with.  (this was originally presented as a
  problem with Delete not working because of this, but I have played
  with this enough to figure out that it really is a selection
  problem. To see this, find a 'folder' that had been empty the last
  time you were in that folder (other wise it will have selected the
  last message viewed) but now has messages.  When
  you 'tab' over to the message list window, the preview window
  should still be 'gray' with 'no message selected' displayed.

  Ctrl-A will highlight all the messages in the list without,
  apparently, selecting any messages.  Delete will not be an
  available, option.  Nor will mark as ... options, etc.

  2.) There is still a mystery stop when tabbing between the
  three windows (Folder list window, Message list window  Message
  preview window). At one time I had thought that it was stopping at
  the Message Preview window even when it was empty, but upon
  further investigation there is something else. Trying to tab between
  the Message List window and Message Preview window, there is another
  stop. That is: it takes one tab to get from Folder list to Message
  list ... and one Shift-Tab to go back. It takes one Shift-Tab to get
  from Preview to Folder List.

  But it takes two tabs to get from Message List to Message Preview
  ... and two Shift-tabs to go the other way.  I cannot find focus
  anywhere in the system window.  It is not on the menu or button bars
  or status line.  It seems to be going to some window that is not
  displayed.

  3.) Still not Alt-F12 key assignment access.  This *IS* RC-4, I
  should expect that we should be seeing that back by now wink

  Other than that, things look pretty good here.

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RC4 issues still open for me (addendum)

2005-05-06 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello tbbeta,

  One last thing I just noticed.  Ctrl-M does not mark messages in a
  collapsed thread.  Is that by design?  I would expect it to mark
  the whole thread whether it is collapsed or expanded.

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Re: RC4 issues still open for me

2005-05-06 Thread Stuart Hemming
   3.) Still not Alt-F12 key assignment access.  This *IS* RC-4, I
   should expect that we should be seeing that back by now wink
I guess you've not been following all of the 'Customize' threads 'cos
that's where you'll find those options now.

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Re: 3.5RC4 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-05-06 Thread Michael Geyer
Hi Peter and list,

On Friday, May 6, 2005 at 14:50:23 GMT +0200 (which was 14:50 where I
live) Peter Ouwehand wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable
points on the subject of 3.5RC4 new-/non-/fixed issues:

 Non-fixed issues:


 Show Stoppers:
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   Change language crashes TheBat!

   Boris Anders (and others): is this still broken for you?

Does work in RC4 (with a new german .lng file, not RIT International pack)


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   1. Open Customise
   2. Select Standard (toolbar)
   3. Select ConnectionCenter - Delete (or any other Aviailable Item)
   4. Select Container: Main Form
   5. Add selected Item
   6. Have an AV for that.

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   it seems that it should be resize able.

but switches the cursor to resize when pointig in the (marked) lower
right corner.

confirmed


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Re: 3.5RC4 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-05-06 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Fri, 6 May 2005, at 14:50:23 [GMT +0200] (which was 14:50 where I
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Hi Peter,

...snip

 Non-fixed issues:


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   Boris Anders (and others): is this still broken for you?

...snip

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Re: 3.5RC4 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-05-06 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Fri, 6 May 2005, at 15:40:35 [GMT +0200] (which was 15:40 where I
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 On Fri, 6 May 2005, at 14:50:23 [GMT +0200] (which was 14:50 where I
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Re: RC4 issues still open for me (addendum)

2005-05-06 Thread Liz

Hi MikeD,

Friday, May 6, 2005, 2:23:01 PM, you wrote:

M3 Hello tbbeta,

M3   One last thing I just noticed.  Ctrl-M does not mark messages in a
M3   collapsed thread.  Is that by design?  I would expect it to mark
M3   the whole thread whether it is collapsed or expanded.


Much  as  I dont use the treaded stuff, it didnt even mark the top one
as read for me, so, yes, Id agree its missing something there.

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Re: RC4 issues still open for me (addendum)

2005-05-06 Thread Stuart Hemming
   One last thing I just noticed.  Ctrl-M does not mark messages in a
   collapsed thread.  Is that by design?
I think so; it's always worked like that. ctrl-M should just make the
topmost message read. The keystroke you're looking for here is
ctrl-shift-M


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Re: RC4 issues still open for me (addendum)

2005-05-06 Thread Stuart Hemming
 Much  as  I dont use the treaded stuff, it didnt even mark the top one
 as read for me,
Can't confirm that here. If the top of a thread is unread ctrl-M marks
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Re: 3.5RC4 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-05-06 Thread Foster, Graham
Hello Peter
Thanks for the list - here is an addition:-

 Customise:
 ==
.. still no CLOSE button in the Customise dialogue :-(

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Edit Mail Message window
   [Spell Checker | Dictionaries] shows American English although
   British English is selected in [Spell Checker | Language]
.. thats been there since the speelchucker was introduced in the year
dot. Guess it won't be fixed for release either :-)
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Re: RC4 issues still open for me (addendum)

2005-05-06 Thread MAU
Hello MikeD,

   One last thing I just noticed.  Ctrl-M does not mark messages in a
   collapsed thread.  Is that by design?  I would expect it to mark
   the whole thread whether it is collapsed or expanded.

When focus is in the message list pane, Ctrl+M just marks the selected
message as Read, not the whole thread. To mark the whole thread you
have to use Shift+Ctrl+M, as you can see in context menu Thread/Mark as
read. As far as I can recall, this has been this way for ages.

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Re: total disappointment

2005-05-06 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
Hello MAU,
Friday, May 6, 2005, 3:26:16 PM, you wrote (possibly edited):

 Did you ever hear the phrase Shit happens?
 Yes, but it is not the first time this kind of shit happens.

 Maybe RIT guys eat too many prunes ;-)

LOL LOL LOL

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RE: total disappointment

2005-05-06 Thread Vilius umskas
 Hello MAU,
 Friday, May 6, 2005, 3:26:16 PM, you wrote (possibly edited):
 
  Did you ever hear the phrase Shit happens?
  Yes, but it is not the first time this kind of shit happens.
 
  Maybe RIT guys eat too many prunes ;-)
 
 LOL LOL LOL

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Re: 3.5RC4 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-05-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Graham,

On Fri, 6 May 2005 14:57:57 +0100 GMT (06/05/2005, 20:57 +0700 GMT),
Foster, Graham wrote:

 Customise:
 ==
FG .. still no CLOSE button in the Customise dialogue :-(

ACK. I'm missing OK and Cancel.

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Re: 3.5RC4 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-05-06 Thread Foster, Graham
Hello Thomas

 ACK. I'm missing OK and Cancel.
I'd just be happy with an OK, as I suspect a Cancel would not be
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Thank you for container captions

2005-05-06 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
I'm  delighted  to  say  that Container captions work fine in RC4.

This  improves the UI tremendously, so far as I am concerned and let's
only hope that this feature does not break in a future program update.
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IMAP: Got worse with RC2/RC4

2005-05-06 Thread Raymund Tump
Hello TBBETA,

I didn't think that possible, but now IMAP is worse than ever.

Normally I start The Bat! find there are many new mails on the TB Beta
list, click on the folder list for the TBBeta folder and if I'm lucky
I get a list of all messages in that folder.

Then I find a subject which sounds interesting, and I click on that
one. Till RC2 this works up to a certain degree: After a (long) while
the message text was shown in the message window. Now that doesn't
happen most of the times.

Here are some entries from the log:

06.05.2005, 16:10:49: IMAP - 4: Connected to IMAP server (imap.gmx.de)
06.05.2005, 16:10:49: IMAP - Msg: Connected to IMAP server (imap.gmx.de)
06.05.2005, 16:10:49: IMAP - 2: Connected to IMAP server (imap.gmx.de)
06.05.2005, 16:10:49: IMAP - 3: Connected to IMAP server (imap.gmx.de)
06.05.2005, 16:10:49: IMAP - 1: Connected to IMAP server (imap.gmx.de)
06.05.2005, 16:10:49: IMAP - 4: Logged on as 1604284
06.05.2005, 16:10:49: IMAP - 2: Logged on as 1604284
06.05.2005, 16:10:49: IMAP - Msg: Logged on as 1604284
06.05.2005, 16:10:49: IMAP - 3: Logged on as 1604284
06.05.2005, 16:10:49: IMAP - 1: Logged on as 1604284
06.05.2005, 16:11:50: IMAP - 1: The folder Gelöscht selected. 0 recent, 26 
unread out of 26 total messages
06.05.2005, 16:11:50: IMAP - 3: The folder Spamverdacht selected. 0 recent, 
0 unread out of 0 total messages
06.05.2005, 16:11:51: IMAP - 3: The folder Unbek.absender selected. 0 
recent, 3 unread out of 3 total messages
06.05.2005, 16:11:52: IMAP - 4: The folder INBOX selected. 0 recent, 0 
unread out of 508 total messages
!06.05.2005, 16:11:53: IMAP - Msg: Cannot select the mailbox Tbbeta. Server 
reports: SELECT Cannot access mailbox - cannot open mailbox 'fol.tbbeta': 
unable to lock index - Resource temporarily unavailable
06.05.2005, 16:12:01: IMAP - 1: The folder Tbudl selected. 51 recent, 0 
unread out of 8933 total messages
06.05.2005, 16:12:06: IMAP - 3: The folder Tbbeta selected. 584 recent, 0 
unread out of 18246 total messages
!06.05.2005, 16:12:09: IMAP - 2: Error downloading message. Server reports: 
SELECT Cannot access mailbox - cannot open mailbox 'fol.tbudl': unable to lock 
index - Resource temporarily unavailable
06.05.2005, 16:12:15: IMAP - 2: The folder Tbbeta selected. 584 recent, 714 
unread out of 18246 total messages
06.05.2005, 16:12:16: IMAP - 1: The folder Tbbeta selected. 584 recent, 0 
unread out of 18246 total messages
06.05.2005, 16:15:56: IMAP - 4: The folder Unbek.absender selected. 0 
recent, 0 unread out of 3 total messages
!06.05.2005, 16:16:02: IMAP - Msg: Cannot select the mailbox Tbbeta. Server 
reports: SELECT Cannot access mailbox - cannot open mailbox 'fol.tbbeta': 
unable to lock index - Resource temporarily unavailable

I have set 5 connections to the server and 1 is reserved for message
retrieval (which I think is not working) and if I test it using the
Test button in the IMAP fine tuning dialog pane, it says No
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Re: RC2: impossible to customise!

2005-05-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter,

On Wed, 4 May 2005 21:25:43 +0200 GMT (05/05/2005, 02:25 +0700 GMT),
Peter Hampf wrote:

PH   since RC2 it is impossible to customise TB here.

Fixed in RC4.

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Re: GUI: Outbox bold

2005-05-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Thomas,

On Thu, 5 May 2005 17:13:30 +0700 GMT (05/05/2005, 17:13 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF In this version, the Outbox is also bold when there are parked
TF (drafted) messages. This is not good. It should only be bold when
TF there are messages that are waiting  to be sent, like in the previous
TF versions.

TF Agreed?

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Re: 3.5RC4 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-05-06 Thread Natasha V Pearce
Hi Peter

PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Customise AV   1. Open
PO Customise   2. Select Standard (toolbar)   3. Select ConnectionCenter -
PO Delete (or any other Aviailable Item)   4. Select Container: Main Form   5.
PO Add selected Item   6. Have an AV for that.

Confirmed. 00ADA5D9 reading 000C.

PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   In Customise|Available
PO Items|mEdit   there are two entries Left, one with icon and one without -
PO guess   one is enough.   In Customise|Available Items|PopMgr   there seems
PO to be lot of duplicates of Read|Receive|Delete|open

Confirmed.

PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Customize menu isn't resize
PO able, but that would be very useful and   it seems that it should be resize
PO able.

Confirmed.

PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Ctrl+LMB behaviour in
PO account/folder tree selections:   - In an account/folder tree Ctrl+LMB
PO normally selects the current item (account or folder) and its child
PO items (folders)   - In the [Folder | Check for Viruses] window, this
PO behaviour is reversed, i.e. it only selects the current item. Just LMB
PO selects the current item and its child items.   = Inconsistent
PO behaviour.

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Re: 3.5RC4 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-05-06 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hello Peter,

just now (on 05/06/2005 at 16:14) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is it necessary to get a new thebat.lng file due to the UI redesign?

Thanks to Thomas Wölk!
German one: http://www.batboard.net/index.php?showtopic=4125

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Re: IMAP: Got worse with RC2/RC4

2005-05-06 Thread 9Val
Hi Raymund,  

RT I have set 5 connections to the server and 1 is reserved for message
RT retrieval (which I think is not working) and if I test it using the
RT Test button in the IMAP fine tuning dialog pane, it says No
RT problems.

 It  doesn't  guarantee anything so, try to play with Fine-Tune option
 'Simulate  folder  lock'.  Notice:  it  needs  program  restart to be
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Re: 3.5RC4 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-05-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Graham,

On Fri, 6 May 2005 15:20:12 +0100 GMT (06/05/2005, 21:20 +0700 GMT),
Foster, Graham wrote:

 ACK. I'm missing OK and Cancel.

FG I'd just be happy with an OK, as I suspect a Cancel would not be
FG trivial to implement :-)

You are not a programmer, are you? ;-) Any changes done with the GUI
should only be actually sent to the database after the OK. Whatever
you do before hitting OK is in a temporary file, probably only
existent in the RAM, but that depends on the programmer. Cancel
means the actual database will not be touched, OK means it will be
altered. On the harddisk, that is.

Basics of OOP (object-oriented progamming).

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Re: Thank you for container captions

2005-05-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Costas,

On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:24:29 +0300 GMT (06/05/2005, 21:24 +0700 GMT),
Costas Papadopoulos wrote:

CP I'm  delighted  to  say  that Container captions work fine in RC4.

Sure. Except my mother thinks a container is a metal box 20 or 40 feet
long, used to send stuff by seafreight across oceans.

CP This  improves the UI tremendously, so far as I am concerned and let's
CP only hope that this feature does not break in a future program update.
CP :)

I still have to figure out how to assign a keyboard shortcut. TB is
becoming a client for geeks only. :-(

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Re: Empty space end of list

2005-05-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Thomas,

On Fri, 6 May 2005 01:00:42 +0700 GMT (06/05/2005, 01:00 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF I confirm that scrolling with the scrollbar shows the empty space
TF again.

And when I have a folder with that empty space, move to anotehr folder
and then back to that folder, the empty space is gone.

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OT Beer for Peter, MAU, and Mary [was Re: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?]

2005-05-06 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter!

On Thursday, May 05, 2005, 6:24 PM, you wrote:

M Any beer from any country will be fine... except Budwiser ;-)

 Hehehe, I completely agree with you ;)

 Oh, there are more, IMHO:
 - Stella Artois
 - Heineken

Heineken for me, at least so far as available-U.S. bottles/cans go. ;)

(This is my test that RC4 does not freeze, also. Frozen beer, like
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Re: Menu Items in Customise

2005-05-06 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Stuart!

On Thursday, May 05, 2005, 7:11 PM, you wrote:

 What theme are you using? Maybe this has some bearing.

Default theme. Have not tested customize yet, since installing RC4.
Overnight I did a long boot-time defragmentation, in case it might
have a bearing on things, since my C drive was moderately fragmented
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Re: Thank you for container captions

2005-05-06 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
Hello Thomas,
Friday, May 6, 2005, 5:44:38 PM, you wrote (possibly edited):

 On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:24:29 +0300 GMT (06/05/2005, 21:24 +0700 GMT),
CP This  improves the UI tremendously, so far as I am concerned and let's
CP only hope that this feature does not break in a future program update.

 I still have to figure out how to assign a keyboard shortcut. TB is
 becoming a client for geeks only. :-(

I  don't  use  keyboard  shortcuts,  but that doesn't mean I'm *not* a
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Re: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?

2005-05-06 Thread 9Val
Hi Peter,  

PO Oh, there are more, IMHO:
PO - Stella Artois
  ^
  you read my thoughts ;)

And Corona (from Mexico) - it has interesting taste :)

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 is now available

2005-05-06 Thread Mary Bull
Hello 9Val!

On Friday, May 06, 2005, 3:38 AM, you wrote:

 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC4 is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

 It fixes freezes on receiving message on POP3

Fixed, indeed. Many thanks. :girlcheer:

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Re: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?

2005-05-06 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hello 9Val,

just now (on 05/06/2005 at 16:59) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And Corona (from Mexico) - it has interesting taste :)

Fully agree with you. It's much better than Desperados. ;)

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Re: STRG-G

2005-05-06 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Michael,

On Friday, May 6, 2005 at 12:12:48 PM Michael [MH] wrote:

MH Minor bug: You have to press STRG+G *twice* to (un)mark a message (with
MH flag), if you do NOT switch to another message in between. You can see
MH the same behaviour when using the context menue instead of the keyboard
MH shortcut.

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Re: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?

2005-05-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello 9Val,

On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:59:02 +0300 GMT (06/05/2005, 21:59 +0700 GMT),
9Val wrote:

9 And Corona (from Mexico) - it has interesting taste :)

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Re: total disappointment

2005-05-06 Thread MAU
Hello Costas,

 Maybe RIT guys eat too many prunes ;-)
 
 LOL LOL LOL

:-)

I should have said 'virtual' prunes ;-)


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Re: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?

2005-05-06 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val,

 And Corona (from Mexico) - it has interesting taste :)

That's a nice one too. What do you think of San Miguel? Ever tried it?

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Re: STRG-G

2005-05-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter,

On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:11:59 +0200 GMT (06/05/2005, 22:11 +0700 GMT),
Peter Palmreuther wrote:

MH Minor bug: You have to press STRG+G *twice* to (un)mark a message (with
MH flag), if you do NOT switch to another message in between.

PP Confirmed.

Confirmed with ctrl-G on a US keyboard layout.

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Re: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?

2005-05-06 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

 I thought this thread was about *beer*? ;-)

Why not? After all beer is kinda yellowish like my icons, ain't it?

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Re: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?

2005-05-06 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU!

On Thursday, May 05, 2005, 6:17 PM, you wrote:

 I am going to fill your bathtub up with ice and the beer of your
 choice!

 Any beer from any country will be fine... except Budwiser ;-)

Then I shall ice down a bathtub full of Heineken, since the virtual
beer, :batbeer: is available only in draft.

Off to see what the Customizer functions are doing today. :)

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Re: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?

2005-05-06 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hi MAU,

just now (on 05/06/2005 at 17:26) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's a nice one too. What do you think of San Miguel? Ever tried it?

You mentioned the best! Yeppa. ;)

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Re: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?

2005-05-06 Thread 9Val
Hi MAU,  

M That's a nice one too. What do you think of San Miguel? Ever tried it?

Unfortunately no, we have not much non-german/russian beer here. (Or I
search it badly :) )

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Re: IMAP: Got worse with RC2/RC4

2005-05-06 Thread Raymund Tump
Hello 9Val,

  It  doesn't  guarantee anything so, try to play with Fine-Tune option
  'Simulate  folder  lock'.  Notice:  it  needs  program  restart to be
  applied.

That did not help.

And I found a new problem:

I deleted the folder cache. That caused TB! to get a new list from the
server that went rather fast (my TBBeta folder has 18268 entries in it
right now), but then it starts to download the headers and that will
take ages as far as I can see. For 5 headers TB needs more than 30
sec. each.

And I had a problem which I thought was already fixed: I click on a
mail and another mail content was shown. The mail shown was the mail I
look at directly before. This happened in the extra folder view
window, as the normal 3 pane layout refused to show the mail anyway.

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Re: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?

2005-05-06 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU!

On Friday, May 06, 2005, 10:29 AM, you wrote:

 I thought this thread was about *beer*? ;-)

 Why not? After all beer is kinda yellowish like my icons, ain't it?

Indeed! LOL

Maybe my yellowish message-list icons are full of beer, as well as
interesting posts.

Nice thought, huh? :)

I better keep a mug handy, to catch the virtual draft!

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Re: 3.5RC4 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-05-06 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

 Basics of OOP (object-oriented progamming).

OK and Cancel were invented much before OOP :)

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Re: Thank you for container captions

2005-05-06 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

 I still have to figure out how to assign a keyboard shortcut. TB is
 becoming a client for geeks only. :-(

RTFM! Don't you have an updated Help file? ;-)

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Re: Empty space end of list

2005-05-06 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

TF I confirm that scrolling with the scrollbar shows the empty space
TF again.
 
 And when I have a folder with that empty space, move to anotehr folder
 and then back to that folder, the empty space is gone.

It's a problem with vertical scroll bars not properly scaled. It was
reported many moons, I mean betas, ago and still unfixed.

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RC4 Customizer: disappeared

2005-05-06 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Everyone!

I tried to add 'Template-Properties-New to the Main Menu in the
Customizer dialogue window. Closed and answered Yes to Apply.

Result: a blank square beside View/Toolbars/ .

Anyone confirm?

If so, is there a way to undo this so I can continue testing the
customize function?

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Intermittent AV on message deletion

2005-05-06 Thread Mike
Ok,  now  this  seems  to be a pattern.  Every fourth or fifth
message  I  delete while viewing in the PTV and holding down shift and
clicking the trash can results in an AV as follows:
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Access violation at address 00404524 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
FFDC.
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Re: 3.5RC4 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-05-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:33:55 +0200 GMT (06/05/2005, 22:33 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

 Basics of OOP (object-oriented progamming).

M OK and Cancel were invented much before OOP :)

True. But OOP demands them. And that is good.

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Re: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?

2005-05-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:29:05 +0200 GMT (06/05/2005, 22:29 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

 I thought this thread was about *beer*? ;-)

M Why not? After all beer is kinda yellowish like my icons, ain't it?

The colour is not the only quality a real beer has!

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Re: Thank you for container captions

2005-05-06 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:37:23 +0200 GMT (06/05/2005, 22:37 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

M RTFM! Don't you have an updated Help file? ;-)

That was the best joke today! ;-)

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Re[2]: Empty space end of list

2005-05-06 Thread Martin Schoch
Hi MAU

 On Friday, May 6, 2005 5:43:22 PM you wrote:

 
 Hello Thomas,

TF I confirm that scrolling with the scrollbar shows the empty space
TF again.
 
 And when I have a folder with that empty space, move to anotehr folder
 and then back to that folder, the empty space is gone.

 It's a problem with vertical scroll bars not properly scaled. It was
 reported many moons, I mean betas, ago and still unfixed.

Perhaps this bug (and a lot of others) are classified as not
important - and will be forgotten as a lot of very old bugs as
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Re: Thank you for container captions

2005-05-06 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
Hello Thomas,
Friday, May 6, 2005, 6:44:57 PM, you wrote (possibly edited):

 On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:37:23 +0200 GMT (06/05/2005, 22:37 +0700 GMT),
 MAU wrote:

M RTFM! Don't you have an updated Help file? ;-)

 That was the best joke today! ;-)

,  the  /best/ joke today, was me being taken in and actually trying
to  find  it in the Help file, according to Miguel's comment. I should
really try and look at those smilies more carefully, next time. :)

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Re[2]: Empty space end of list

2005-05-06 Thread Martin Schoch
Hi Thomas

 On Friday, May 6, 2005 4:46:46 PM you wrote:

 
 Hello Thomas,

 On Fri, 6 May 2005 01:00:42 +0700 GMT (06/05/2005, 01:00 +0700 GMT),
 Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF I confirm that scrolling with the scrollbar shows the empty space
TF again.

 And when I have a folder with that empty space, move to anotehr folder
 and then back to that folder, the empty space is gone.

I can't confirm this behaviour - empty space still there.

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