Re: Wish : option "Include Quick template" in new HTML templates

2008-12-15 Thread Jens Franik
am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 07:19 schrieb Marek Mikus: > it is possible to "Include template file", but if user wants to include > Quick template, he must know macro and correct QT name, it is not possible > to select Quick template from list like in editor with macro inserted > automatical

Wish : option "Include Quick template" in new HTML templates

2008-12-15 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello, it is possible to "Include template file", but if user wants to include Quick template, he must know macro and correct QT name, it is not possible to select Quick template from list like in editor with macro inserted automatically. -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat!

Re[2]: 4.1.1.1

2008-12-15 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Ian, Monday, December 15, 2008, 5:17:57 PM, you wrote: [snip] > I have no objection to paying, that's why I wanted to know which of > the options on the upgrade page I should use, and the message on this > list with 4.1.1 should have had something about this as well. Anyhow, > everyone on t

Re[2]: 4.1.1.4

2008-12-15 Thread Miles Chang
Hello Stefan, Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 3:54:45 AM, you wrote: > Yes, this is by design. You've been asked once. Basically, it's not a > good idea to downgrade from a version that is using new message base > index format, you'd better use full backup every time you change version. I see. But

Re: 4.1.1.1

2008-12-15 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Tuesday, December 16, 2008, Ian A. White wrote: > I checked my accounts records and now realise that it has been a while > since the last upgrade, and if memory serves me right, we (on the beta > list) got a free key for 4.0.x. all keys for 3.x works in all versions 4.0.x for all user

[U&R] 4.1.1.4

2008-12-15 Thread Jens Franik
am Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 um 16:26 schrieb Maxim Masiutin: > The Bat! 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) is available Up + Running - Unregistered 28 Days left -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) & Anti

Re[3]: 4.1.1.1

2008-12-15 Thread NetVicious
lunes, 15 dic 2008 at 13:25, it seems you wrote: >>>Are you going to introduce it at some point or not? (Don't get me wrong, I'm >>>perfectly happy with the existing interface however TB tends to be >>>intimidating for newcomers...) > No, we don't plan to introduce it. Maybe for v5? -- /\

Re: viewing HTML email glitch

2008-12-15 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Monday, December 15, 2008, 11:50:38 AM, Jim Nafus wrote: > For the past few versions of TB (including 4.1.1.4), I will be reading > through a longer HTML email (say a newsletter), and after about 2 > seconds, TB will automatically scroll the email back to the top. > Has anyone else seen this?

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Vilius Šumskas« · 2008-12-15 · 22:14 h (CET)] Moin, Vilius! >>> 4.0.x is not supported anymore too. >> do not understand, what You mean by "not supported", latest bugfix >> for 4.0.x was released three weeks ago. > Yes. But there will be no butfixes further. Are there any known *sh

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Monday, December 15, 2008, Vilius Šumskas wrote: > Well, legally RitLabs maybe right. But in any business you should > pay respect to clients, e.g. supporting old version and fixing > critical bugs at least for some time after next major version is > released. Or chan

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Sveiki, Monday, December 15, 2008, 11:10:17 PM, you wrote: > Hello all, > Monday, December 15, 2008, Vilius Šumskas wrote: >> 4.0.x is not supported anymore too. > do not understand, what You mean by "not supported", latest bugfix for > 4.0.x was released three weeks ago. Yes. But there will b

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Monday, December 15, 2008, Vilius Šumskas wrote: > 4.0.x is not supported anymore too. do not understand, what You mean by "not supported", latest bugfix for 4.0.x was released three weeks ago. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Ba

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Sveiki, Monday, December 15, 2008, 10:53:55 PM, you wrote: > Hello all, > Monday, December 15, 2008, Vilius Šumskas wrote: >> You are right. But I think he was referring to that nothing changed >> in those 4 years. Version 3.x and 4.x differs only in bug fixed >> and some changed glyphs.

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Sveiki, Monday, December 15, 2008, 10:48:27 PM, you wrote: >> He can't use 3.x anymore because it's still buggy and not supported. > ,- [ From the License Agreement (that document no one ever reads) ] > | <..> > `- > BTW, quite similar wording to License Agreements of many other softw

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread Christian Grams
> You are right. But I think he was referring to that nothing changed > in those 4 years. Version 3.x and 4.x differs only in bug fixed > and some changed glyphs. He can't use 3.x anymore because it's still > buggy and not supported. At the same time he don't want to pay for bug > fixes tha

Re[2]: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread Bob Riley
Hi MAU, Monday, December 15, 2008, 1:34:45 PM, you wrote: [snip] >> But I think a less "parent-like" response on your part ... > Given my age you'd probably better say "grandpa-like". Careful! I am 66 and can remember when the French surrendered at Sedan, near the Meuse River, much to the deli

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Monday, December 15, 2008, Vilius Šumskas wrote: > You are right. But I think he was referring to that nothing changed > in those 4 years. Version 3.x and 4.x differs only in bug fixed > and some changed glyphs. He can't use 3.x anymore because it's still > buggy and not supporte

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread MAU
Hello Christian, >> One can 'ventilate' disagreement (even strong disagreement) and >> frustration with a little more respect for people working very very hard >> to earn an honest living. Don't you think so? > > > Of course you can, but you can also show respect to paying customers. Please see

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread MAU
Hello Vilius, > But I think he was referring to that nothing changed in those 4 years. That's not true. Splash screen has changed a few times. ;-) > He can't use 3.x anymore because it's still buggy and not supported. ,- [ From the License Agreement (that document no one ever reads) ] | | T

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread MAU
Hello Bob, > If one is extremely self-controlled and thoughtful, including having > good genes and good parenting and a regular spiritual life, having > relatively low life stress, and/or having a fundamentally holistic > view of people, yes. All those fancy words and phrasing just to say "grown

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread George M. Menegakis
Hello Christian, Monday, December 15, 2008, 5:09:24 PM, you wrote: > Once again Ritlabs has done it again. > This is the last straw and the last email i will send with TB! Very > sad since i have used it (registered / licensed) since 1.x. > But enough is enough! > Why the HELL do you guys th

tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com

2008-12-15 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Bob Riley« · 2008-12-15 · 17:26 h (CET)] Moin, Bob! >> The Bat! 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) is available at >> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4114.rar > [snip] > Up and running, … … and of course registered. Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line

Re: 4.1.1.4

2008-12-15 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Miles, MC> This version still convert .tbi file to .tbn silently, WITHOUT any query, is it MC> by design?? Yes, this is by design. You've been asked once. Basically, it's not a good idea to downgrade from a version that is using new message base index format, you'd better use full backup

Re[2]: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread Bob Riley
Hi MAU, Monday, December 15, 2008, 11:46:42 AM, you wrote: > Hello Bob, [snip] > One can 'ventilate' disagreement (even strong disagreement) and > frustration with a little more respect for people working very very hard > to earn an honest living. Don't you think so? If one is extremely self-

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Sveiki, Monday, December 15, 2008, 7:36:30 PM, you wrote: > Hello all, > Monday, December 15, 2008, Christian Grams wrote: >> Once again Ritlabs has done it again. >> This is the last straw and the last email i will send with TB! Very >> sad since i have used it (registered / licensed) since

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread Christian Grams
Guten Tag MAU, am Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 um 19:46 schrieben Sie: > Hello Bob, >> I agree that Christian went a bit overboard in his frustration, and I >> had questions about the upgrade myself (considering that I renewed my >> license in 21 November 2007, thinking it would be valid into versi

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread MAU
Hello Bob, > I agree that Christian went a bit overboard in his frustration, and I > had questions about the upgrade myself (considering that I renewed my > license in 21 November 2007, thinking it would be valid into version > 4.1, and it wasn't - although that was clarified in the February 2008

Re: viewing HTML email glitch

2008-12-15 Thread Robert van der Hulst
Hi Jim, On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, at 12:50:38 [GMT -0500] (which was 18:50 where I live) you wrote about: 'viewing HTML email glitch' > For the past few versions of TB (including 4.1.1.4), I will be reading > through a longer HTML email (say a newsletter), and after about 2 > seconds, TB will automati

Re: viewing HTML email glitch

2008-12-15 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Monday, December 15, 2008, Jim Nafus wrote: > For the past few versions of TB (including 4.1.1.4), I will be reading > through a longer HTML email (say a newsletter), and after about 2 > seconds, TB will automatically scroll the email back to the top. This > seems to have gotten better

Re: viewing HTML email glitch

2008-12-15 Thread Rick
> Hello all. > For the past few versions of TB (including 4.1.1.4), I will be reading > through a longer HTML email (say a newsletter), and after about 2 > seconds, TB will automatically scroll the email back to the top. This > seems to have gotten better in the last version of TB (only doing it >

Re: viewing HTML email glitch

2008-12-15 Thread Gunivortus Goos
Hi Jim, > It seems to happen more in emails that have a lot of graphics. Could > TB be re-loading the page as new graphics are loaded causing this? It > is really a pain to try to read an email when it keeps going back to > the top. > Has anyone else seen this? Yes. That happens until all graphic

viewing HTML email glitch

2008-12-15 Thread Jim Nafus
Hello all. For the past few versions of TB (including 4.1.1.4), I will be reading through a longer HTML email (say a newsletter), and after about 2 seconds, TB will automatically scroll the email back to the top. This seems to have gotten better in the last version of TB (only doing it once) where

Re: 4.1.1.4

2008-12-15 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Monday, December 15, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote: > The Bat! 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) is available at > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4114.rar running OK here. > What's new in 4.1.1.4 since 4.1.1.3: > [-] (#0007393) (Beta) Switching between template formats were causi

Re: 4.1.1.4

2008-12-15 Thread Mackley
Up and running -- Mackley Italy Current beta is 4.1.1.3 (RC1) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Monday, December 15, 2008, Christian Grams wrote: > Once again Ritlabs has done it again. > This is the last straw and the last email i will send with TB! Very > sad since i have used it (registered / licensed) since 1.x. > But enough is enough! > Why the HELL do you guys think i s

Re: 4.1.1.4

2008-12-15 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Maxim, Monday, December 15, 2008, 4:26:26 PM, you wrote: MM> The Bat! 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) is available at MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4114.rar I'm using it. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) with MyMa

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread Rick
> Hi MAU, > Monday, December 15, 2008, 9:02:41 AM, you wrote: >> Hello Christian, >>> Why the HELL do you guys think i should pay for an upgrade to 4.x when >>> not even half the bugs have been fixed from 3.x?? And since the >>> functionality / design / usage / etc. is still 3.x

tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com

2008-12-15 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Maxim, Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:26:26 AM, you wrote: > The Bat! 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) is available at > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4114.rar [snip] Up and running, with the usual caveats that I don't use some of the advanced features. -- Take Care, Bob

Re[2]: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread Bob Riley
Hi MAU, Monday, December 15, 2008, 9:02:41 AM, you wrote: > Hello Christian, >> Why the HELL do you guys think i should pay for an upgrade to 4.x when >> not even half the bugs have been fixed from 3.x?? And since the >> functionality / design / usage / etc. is still 3.x - this

Re[3]: 4.1.1.1

2008-12-15 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Maxim, Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:16:28 AM, you wrote: > Hello Vilius, > Monday, December 15, 2008, 16:55:59, you wrote: >>>Anyway, do you still planning to rewrite IMAP support or was it also >>>canceled? > We plan to rewrite it. Good. It is workable now but is not as reliable in my exp

Re: Download URL manager appears when adding smiley into HTML template

2008-12-15 Thread Alain de Gevigney
Title: Re: Download URL manager appears when adding smiley into HTML template Hello Marek,  On  Mon, 15 Dec 2008 at 01:41:56 [GMT +0100] (which was 01:41 where I live) you wrote: > I have opened folder template and switched to HTML template. When I > inserted table and smiley to it, Download

Re: 4.1.1.4

2008-12-15 Thread Miles Chang
Hello Maxim, Monday, December 15, 2008, 11:26:26 PM, you wrote: > The Bat! 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) is available at > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4114.rar > What's new in 4.1.1.4 since 4.1.1.3: > [-] (#0007393) (Beta) Switching between template formats were causing losing > a

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread MAU
Hello Christian, > Why the HELL do you guys think i should pay for an upgrade to 4.x when > not even half the bugs have been fixed from 3.x?? And since the > functionality / design / usage / etc. is still 3.x - this is > ridiculous to call this version 4.x - just because you nee

4.1.1.4

2008-12-15 Thread Maxim Masiutin
The Bat! 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4114.rar What's new in 4.1.1.4 since 4.1.1.3: [-] (#0007393) (Beta) Switching between template formats were causing losing automatic spell checking [-] Common Quick templates were not available from

Re: Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread Rick
> Once again Ritlabs has done it again. > This is the last straw and the last email i will send with TB! Very > sad since i have used it (registered / licensed) since 1.x. > But enough is enough! > Why the HELL do you guys think i should pay for an upgrade to 4.x when > not even half the b

Re: RE: 4.1.1.1

2008-12-15 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Vilius, Monday, December 15, 2008, 16:55:59, you wrote: >>Anyway, do you still planning to rewrite IMAP support or was it also >>canceled? We plan to rewrite it. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:m...@ritlabs.com __

Registration - v4.x

2008-12-15 Thread Christian Grams
Once again Ritlabs has done it again. This is the last straw and the last email i will send with TB! Very sad since i have used it (registered / licensed) since 1.x. But enough is enough! Why the HELL do you guys think i should pay for an upgrade to 4.x when not even half the bugs have b

Re: 4.1.1.3: Two issues with Task Bar and Task Manager

2008-12-15 Thread MAU
Hello Alain, > Fully confirmed. About Connection Centre also? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.3 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.3 (RC1) | 'Using TBBETA' i

Re: 4.1.1.3: Two issues with Task Bar and Task Manager

2008-12-15 Thread MAU
Hello MAU, > Not sure at this time if this is all new in this latest version, I will > revert to some previous betas later to verify. It is the first time I > have noticed. > > 2.- The Bat! is not (never) shown in Applications tab of Task manager. I have tried a few older alphas and betas and

RE: 4.1.1.1

2008-12-15 Thread Vilius Šumskas
> Hello Maxim, > > Monday, December 15, 2008, 10:11:15 AM, you wrote: > > > We wanted to add the new interface for version 4.0 but in 2007 we > refrained > > from this idea, you can search for the archives for the messages > dated > > February 2008. > > I remember an e-mail that informed us that

Re: 4.1.1.3: Two issues with Task Bar and Task Manager

2008-12-15 Thread Alain de Gevigney
Title: Re: 4.1.1.3: Two issues with Task Bar and Task Manager Hello MAU,  On  Mon, 15 Dec 2008 at 13:23:19 [GMT +0100] (which was 13:23 where I live) you wrote: > 1.- Connection Centre is shown in Task Bar even though CC (window) is > closed and, obviously, not shown is Task Manager. I have s

Re: 4.1.1.3: Two issues with Task Bar and Task Manager

2008-12-15 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart, M>> 2.- The Bat! is not (never) shown in Applications tab of Task manager. > > Confirmed. You may want to add a note to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7367 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.39.39 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service P

Re: 4.1.1.3: Two issues with Task Bar and Task Manager

2008-12-15 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello MAU, Monday, December 15, 2008, 6:23:19 AM, you wrote: M> 1.- Connection Centre is shown in Task Bar even though CC (window) is M> closed and, obviously, not shown is Task Manager. I have seen this M> happen twice so far. Have not seen it yet. M> 2.- The Bat! is not (never) shown in Applic

Re[2]: 4.1.1.1

2008-12-15 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello George, Monday, December 15, 2008, 14:17:12, you wrote: >>Are you going to introduce it at some point or not? (Don't get me wrong, I'm >>perfectly happy with the existing interface however TB tends to be >>intimidating for newcomers...) No, we don't plan to introduce it. -- Best regards,

4.1.1.3: Two issues with Task Bar and Task Manager

2008-12-15 Thread MAU
Hello all, Not sure at this time if this is all new in this latest version, I will revert to some previous betas later to verify. It is the first time I have noticed. 1.- Connection Centre is shown in Task Bar even though CC (window) is closed and, obviously, not shown is Task Manager. I have s

Re: 4.1.1.1

2008-12-15 Thread George M. Menegakis
Hello Maxim, Monday, December 15, 2008, 10:11:15 AM, you wrote: > We wanted to add the new interface for version 4.0 but in 2007 we refrained > from this idea, you can search for the archives for the messages dated > February 2008. I remember an e-mail that informed us that v4 had already the ne

Re: 4.1.1.3

2008-12-15 Thread Mackley
Ok, up and running ! -- Mackley Current beta is 4.1.1.3 (RC1) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

4.1.1.3 (and previous) Windows size and position not remebered

2008-12-15 Thread Francis Dhumes
Hello Tbbeta, since several version (maybe the 4.0.34.21 version) the size and position of the windows (folder list, message list, message preview) are not remembered between sessions. It happens only on my Windows XP SP3 computer, and not the Vista SP1 one. - is this problem encountered on anoth

Re: 4.1.1.3

2008-12-15 Thread MAU
Hello Maxim, > The Bat! 4.1.1.3 RC1 (BETA) is available at > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4113.rar Up&running. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.3 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 ___

Re: Re[4]: 4.1.1.1

2008-12-15 Thread Mackley
Ok, i'm new to this mailing list, so I missed the internal messagge about the "new interface drop". But "outside" the beta mailing list, I think they still expect a new interface for 4.1 release ! I think there would be a delusion with your existent customer, but is only IMOH... ;-) -- Mackley

Re: 4.1.1.3

2008-12-15 Thread Sanly
Hello Max, - > Hello Tbbeta, > The Bat! 4.1.1.3 RC1 (BETA) is available at > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4113.rar > What's new in 4.1.1.3 since 4.1.1.2: > [-] Fixed another serious UTF-7 encoding bug in IMAP folder names >

Re[4]: 4.1.1.1

2008-12-15 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Mackley, Monday, December 15, 2008, 10:33:34, you wrote: >>the archives going since june only >>http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/mail14.html Here is one at Gmane: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.mail.the-bat.user >>but this article is still published on your Web site >>ht

Re: 4.1.1.1

2008-12-15 Thread Sebastian Murawski
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Monday morning, Mackley wrote something like this: > but this article is still published on your Web site > http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=2305 > maybe you have to delete it, it seems as a broken promises.. m

Re: Re[2]: 4.1.1.1

2008-12-15 Thread Mackley
Mmm the archives going since june only http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/mail14.html but this article is still published on your Web site http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=2305 maybe you have to delete it, it seems as a broken promises... --

Re[2]: 4.1.1.1

2008-12-15 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Vilius, Monday, December 15, 2008, 9:05:37, you wrote: >>And where is the "totally new" user interface? We wanted to add the new interface for version 4.0 but in 2007 we refrained from this idea, you can search for the archives for the messages dated February 2008. -- Best regards, Maxi