Re: TB Slow shutdown speed
On Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 9:19:07, Robert van der Hulst wrote: 5 seconds until UI disappears 180 seconds (3 minutes !) until program disappears from memory almost no processor/network activity in the meantime Can't confirm - I've got TB set up to compress folders on shutdown, and that starts as soon as I click the close button, and takes ~35 seconds (I have around 400.000 messages in too many folders to count). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows Vista 6.0.6001.Service Pack 1] Nothing is so good as it seems beforehand. -- Eliot's Observation Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.6
Hello all, Tuesday, December 16, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) is available at [-] (#0007246) Clipboard contents wasn't checked at Sorting Office's firts launch sorry, can not confirm as fixed in 4.1.1.8, Paste or Ctrl+V is still disabled -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
Hello Jim, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 4:05:40, you wrote: OK, Updated to 4.1.1.8 and now the content of html emails are all center aligned. This makes reading the email pretty difficult. Could you please send the screenshots to m...@ritlabs.com CC di...@ritlabs.com? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Slow shutdown speed
Hello Jernej, JS Can't confirm - I've got TB set up to compress folders on shutdown, JS and that starts as soon as I click the close button, and takes ~35 JS seconds (I have around 400.000 messages in too many folders to count). That's actually slow. Do you have many folders to be compressed on exit? I have about a million of messages in my base and TB! still exits in a couple of seconds... -- Cheers! Stefan ...There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count and those who can't. Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.6
Hello Marek, MM sorry, can not confirm as fixed in 4.1.1.8, Paste or Ctrl+V is still disabled Is the filter list active at the time you're checking? -- Cheers! Stefan ...Every heart that has beat strong and cheerfully has left a hopeful impulse behind it in the world, and bettered the tradition of mankind. - Robert Louis Stevenson Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.6
Hello all, Thursday, December 18, 2008, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: MM sorry, can not confirm as fixed in 4.1.1.8, Paste or Ctrl+V is still disabled Is the filter list active at the time you're checking? I select filter in message, copy it to clipboard and open Sorting Office - last selected filter is active. Paste is disabled now and even I click to list or do anything, it stays disabled. What's worse, I can not copy filter to SO even SO is already opened, this worked before. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TEXT QT included in HTML folder properties has lost linebreaks in Microed
Hello all, Monday, December 15, 2008, Marek Mikus wrote: I have QT in text mode with national chars and linebreaks, preview is OK. I have a folder template with selected HTML template and included this QT via QINCLUDE macro. I have Microed editor selected by default. When I create new message from message from this folder, all linebrakes are lost. reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7385 anybody can confirm? I can reproduce in 4.1.1.8 -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML QT included in TEXT Folder template produces HTML code in Microed
Hello all, Monday, December 15, 2008, Marek Mikus wrote: When I set this template in folder properties via macro %QINCLUDE=html3, I get following output in Microed: span class=rvts6S programem The Bat! získáváte:/span/p pspan class=rvts6Českou lokalizaci a nápovědu obsahující více než 480 stránek/span/p pspan class=rvts6České slovníky pro kontrolu pravopisu s diakritikou a bez ní/span/p pspan class=rvts6Intuitivní grafické prostředí s možností plné konfigurace vzhledu/span/p /body/html reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7397 anybody can confirm? I can reproduce in 4.1.1.8 -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
Up and running. I've tested the Unix mbox import feature. Four different mbox file (total: 12,7 MByte) with 1673 message (some with attachments up to 1,4 MByte) imported in less than 2 minutes. Using TheBat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) Professional on MS Windows XP Home SP2 italian with Agnitum Outpost Security Suite Pro 2009 (version 6.5.2358.316.0607) -- Mackley Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
Hello, OK, Updated to 4.1.1.8 and now the content of html emails are all center aligned. *not* confirmed... -- Regards, Peter | The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) - multiple POP3 accounts | Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional | Version 5.00.2195 - Service Pack 4 | CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor,1400MHz | RAM: 2048 MB pgpojFri8a4iK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.6
Hello Marek, I select filter in message, copy it to clipboard and open Sorting Office - last selected filter is active. Paste is disabled now and even I click to list or do anything, it stays disabled. Confirmed. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.7 HTML Viewer
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 22:38 schrieb Jens Franik: The Bat! 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) is available at [-] Some fixes in HTML viewer, please check various html messages and attachments I have to test the viewing thing tomorrow... This does not work in HTML Viewer: a href=3Dhttp://ad1.c=hefkoch.de/shop-goto-2-0.php?id=3D126873z=3D4; target=3D_blankimg src==3Dhttp://ad1.chefkoch.de/shop-produktanzeiger-2-0.php?z=3D4searchimg=3D1=26873id=3D53; border=3D0 alt=3D/a Page-Down in HTML Mail at the End of the Mail goes back to the top (Loop?) ..but not always Reproduce: Browse through Messages in Messageview with ALT-Right ALT-Left or SPACE and scroll down Message with Page-Down. Maybe this happens only if not all images are load, after loading all images it does not happen again. Maxim, i put you together a Mailbox with 36 HTML Mails, which i stripped off my personal information - to see what Problems still occure. I send you the Link by PM. (1454 KBytes) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
Hello all, Thursday, December 18, 2008, MAU wrote: Do you have any other system available where you can test or just your laptop? will check in the evening on my wife's laptop with Vista. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
Hello Marek, What virus scanner are you using? Are you scanning files when opening them? NOD32, but already tried to stop it, nothing changed. really strange :-( Do you have any other system available where you can test or just your laptop? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML QT included in TEXT Folder template produces HTML code in Microed
Hello Marek, anybody can confirm? I can reproduce in 4.1.1.8 This is what I get: ,- [ ] | S programem The Bat! získáváte:/p | pČeskou lokalizaci a nápovědu obsahující více než 480 stránek/p | pČeské slovníky pro kontrolu pravopisu s diakritikou a bez ní/p | pIntuitivní grafické prostředí s možností plné konfigurace vzhledu/p | pbr/p `- -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML QT included in TEXT Folder template produces HTML code in Microed
Hello all, Thursday, December 18, 2008, MAU wrote: anybody can confirm? I can reproduce in 4.1.1.8 This is what I get: ,- [ ] | S programem The Bat! získáváte:/p | pČeskou lokalizaci a nápovědu obsahující více než 480 stránek/p | pČeské slovníky pro kontrolu pravopisu s diakritikou a bez ní/p | pIntuitivní grafické prostředí s možností plné konfigurace vzhledu/p | pbr/p `- thanks, please support BT issue then. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TEXT QT included in HTML folder properties has lost linebreaks in Microed
Hello Marek, anybody can confirm? I can reproduce in 4.1.1.8 Yes. I hardly use html and have not played much with html templates, but I think I can confirm. Line breaks ar lost. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Conflict between Viewer Profile and HTML Quick Template
Hello, as I expect, viewer/editor profile should be used in editor only and not in Quick Template, I see problems here. I am editing HTML Quick template, I have changed everything to Arial and when I saved this template, it was changed to Courier New. After some investigation, I have discovered, it was because Profile#1 with Courier New is selected in QT dialog. But why TB changes this in Quick template or standard templates automatically? When I open editor, it has different Viewer profile, so I really lost in what I really get in output :-( I do not think, viewer profiles should be applied to templates. -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML QT included in TEXT Folder template produces HTML code in Microed
Hello Marek, thanks, please support BT issue then. Let me think about it first and perhaps do some more testing (if I have the time and willingness to do it ;) ) because: 1.- I don't get exactly what you get. I don't gent any 'span' tags. 2.- As I said in another message, I hardly use HTML and have not played with HTML templates and QTs. So, I am not sure what the behaviour should be when you mix an HTML template with a text QT or a text template with an HTML QT. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello Richard, BR When I switched from classic windows appearance to XP mode on the BR desktop, then the buttons being on and off is much clearer in the BR message composition window's on the bottom tool bar. When depressed, BR an option button turns a red-orange color and is easy to see. Same here after changing theme to XP. Now to adapt that theme to the colors/background I want. And, I shouldn't have to do that to get the icons to work. The icons (buttons) do work in classic windows appearance. Although I must admit the different states are a little more difficult to differentiate, specially depending on the colours used. But the buttons 'work'. See attached PNGs: - Normal state, buttons are flat. - Mouse hover, buttons are in 3D (protruding relief) with shade on right side and bottom. - Set state, button depressed. With dark shade on top and light and bottom. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 attachment: Icon_normal.pngattachment: Icon_hover.pngattachment: Icon_set.png Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Wrong html display
Hi, the display of my HTML newsletters has become wrong now. An example This newsletter is also online viewable, here is the link: http://news.douglas.de/public/read_message.jsp?tsp=1229596972266sig=LLIOIGAEAIAIGBALmid=900269316custid=9250uid=9044614426 And this is, how it is desplayed in TB: http://www.gunivortus.net/clipboard01.jpg http://www.gunivortus.net/clipboard02.jpg http://www.gunivortus.net/clipboard03.jpg -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) under 6, 6001 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello MAU, Thursday, December 18, 2008, 7:26:56 AM, you wrote: M The icons (buttons) do work in classic windows appearance. Although I M must admit the different states are a little more difficult to M differentiate, specially depending on the colours used. But the buttons M 'work'. See attached PNGs: I wouldn't call that working. As I originally said, they are very difficult to differentiate and thus are not working the way I would expect. I did switch to an XP theme for several hours and really couldn't adjust to the difference. I've been using basically the same theme configuration since WIN3 . . . and my machines look as close to WIN3 as possible. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:newmangr...@gmail.com -- Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wrong html display
am Donnerstag, 18. Dezember 2008 um 13:48 schrieb Gunivortus Goos: the display of my HTML newsletters has become wrong now. An example This has been one of my customers :-) I have a lot of such HTML Mails, but if you compare the sitation now and the previous, it is clear that in the past only some HTML Mails where readable, where as i would say now: Most of the Mails are readable, only a few problems with - font sizes - not loading images du to CSS styles - Small Lines, Fat Blocks hanging around, but do not disturb Over all i would thank the RITLABS Guys for their good work, i did sent them a selection of 36 Mails of me, which all have more or less Problems to 100% display. I am sure, this will be fixed soon. You can Help, if you export your Mail to UNIX Mailbox Format and give it to Maxim or Stefan (best to place it on a Webserver and send a link to it). -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello Richard, I've been using basically the same theme configuration since WIN3 . . . and my machines look as close to WIN3 as possible. I know what you mean because I do something similar with my cars. I always tune them to look as close as possible to the Ford Model T. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wrong html display
Hello Jens, On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:39:31 +0100 GMT (18/12/2008, 21:39 +0700 GMT), Jens Franik wrote: JF I have a lot of such HTML Mails, but if you compare the sitation now and JF the previous, it is clear that in the past only some HTML Mails where JF readable, where as i would say now: Most of the Mails are readable, only JF a few problems with JF - font sizes JF - not loading images du to CSS styles JF - Small Lines, Fat Blocks hanging around, but do not disturb JF Over all i would thank the RITLABS Guys for their good work, You cannot convince a new user to accept that most of the HTML mails are rendered correctly. Never mind the technical problems, users just expect that *all* of their newsletters are shown correctly, as this is what they get from competing products. Ritlabs cannot survive with only us enthusiasts - they need new buyers all the time, in order to pay their rent. -- Cheers, Thomas. Subway: We Are Not Public Transportation, Dammit http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello Richard, On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:17:31 -0500 GMT (18/12/2008, 21:17 +0700 GMT), Richard Newman wrote: RN I've been using basically the same theme configuration since WIN3 RN . . . and my machines look as close to WIN3 as possible. I don't believe that - send pics! (Screenshots) -- Cheers, Thomas. What? What the hell is a RFC? I _do_ already use NAV! - Peter Palmreuther on TBUDL. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello MAU, On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:46:45 +0100 GMT (18/12/2008, 21:46 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: I've been using basically the same theme configuration since WIN3 . . . and my machines look as close to WIN3 as possible. M I know what you mean because I do something similar with my cars. I M always tune them to look as close as possible to the Ford Model T. ;-) LOL! (If you read German, you'll see the Cookidence below.) -- Cheers, Thomas. Die Bewohner der Erde heisen Autos, ihre Sklaven haben zwei Beine und muessen fur sie arbeiten und sie pflegen. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello Thomas, Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:14:47 AM, you wrote: TF I don't believe that - send pics! (Screenshots) Here they are: www.business-presentation.com/images/screenshot001.png www.business-presentation.com/images/screenshot002.png www.business-presentation.com/images/screenshot003.png -- Best regards, Richardmailto:newmangr...@gmail.com -- Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello Richard, On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:05:12 -0500 GMT (18/12/2008, 23:05 +0700 GMT), Richard Newman wrote: TF I don't believe that - send pics! (Screenshots) RN Here they are: RN www.business-presentation.com/images/screenshot001.png RN www.business-presentation.com/images/screenshot002.png RN www.business-presentation.com/images/screenshot003.png Lovable. Nostalgic. Aah...sigh Thanks for the enjoyable screenshots. Sorry, I forgot about your problem. What was it again? (Just joking.) No, yes: I agree the icons are difficult to tell apart. I too have a probem when I take a look and want to see whether I have activated them yet or not. -- Cheers, Thomas. Personnel executives of 100 major corporations were asked for stories of unusual behavior by job applicants. 5. Interrupted to phone his therapist for advice on answering specific interview questions. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello Thomas, Thursday, December 18, 2008, 11:25:48 AM, you wrote: TF Lovable. Nostalgic. Aah...sigh And the WIN3 feel is probably why most of us Batters use plain text and not html. TF Thanks for the enjoyable screenshots. You are welcome. TF (Just joking.) No, yes: I agree the icons are difficult to tell apart. TF I too have a probem when I take a look and want to see whether I have TF activated them yet or not. Exactly. And we shouldn't have that problem. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:newmangr...@gmail.com -- Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.39.39 (BETA)
Hello Tbbeta, I just installed that version (I'll not upgrade yet until my company decides which client to use in the future) coming from 4.0.32.4 and it told me it converts the database and this would enable multiple flags to be set, if I recall correctly. How do I use that feature? Found no hint on this list how to do that...but sounds like something I waited for a long time. Maybe some good soul (nearly wrote sole ;-) will spend a second and explain to me ... -- Martin TB! 4.0.39.39 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
On Thursday, December 18, 2008, 15:17:31, Richard Newman wrote: I did switch to an XP theme for several hours and really couldn't adjust to the difference. I have yet to find an XP or Vista theme that doesn't look awful (Microsoft's Zune XP theme is the closest to not awful I came so far), but for now I'm sticking to the Windows 2000 look (with a custom colour scheme). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows Vista 6.0.6001.Service Pack 1] Nothing is ever done for the right reason. -- O'Brien's Rule Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Icons
Hi MAU, If you go to Customise and select the different toolbars in the Containers section on the left, what is the setting for each on the lower right corner? Toolbar Icons or Menu Icons? It is all menu icons, grey, not changable. It's not changeable for menus, but it should be for toolbars. And the setting for toolbars should obviously be Toolbar Icons, which are four times as big as menu ones. Sorry to admit it, but I didn't manage making the toolbars and the icons on it bigger. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Icons
Hello Gunivortus, It's not changeable for menus, but it should be for toolbars. And the setting for toolbars should obviously be Toolbar Icons, which are four times as big as menu ones. Sorry to admit it, but I didn't manage making the toolbars and the icons on it bigger. Don't give up yet :) First, why don't you send me (us) a screenshot of your main toolbar so I (we) can see the icons size your are talking about? Second, do you have a 'batskin.xml' file in your 'Program files/The Bat!' directory? If so, could you also send it? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mass mailing using HTML template not working
Hello, I have created new QT, selected HTML format, inserted text and one image. When I create new Mass Mail, HTML part includes this image only, text of QT is available in TEXT part only. anybody can confirm? -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Icons
Hi MAU, First, why don't you send me (us) a screenshot of your main toolbar so I (we) can see the icons size your are talking about? That is attached. For instance, the 2nd, the 4th and the fifth icon witch that green point on it look to me equal. I'd like them twice as big as they are now. And that too for the icons of the message viewer and the edotir. Second, do you have a 'batskin.xml' file in your 'Program files/The Bat!' directory? If so, could you also send it? No, I haven't. I do have 131 icon gif files C:\Program Files\The Bat!, they all have Images_Default_...gifin their names. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) under Vista Ultimate 32 bitattachment: icons.jpg Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Forward - redirect changes message
Hi Tbbeta, When forwarding a HTML message with pictures, the message is changed to just text, all though in the account properties - forward - format the option HTML (Rich Text) is checked. The original html-message is put in an attachment as 1.eml. When I redirect the same message, it is also changed to text-only and now, the original message is attached as: Message.html Why is this? The forwarded or redirected message should keep its original format. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forward - redirect changes message
Hi Gunivortus, on Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:00:50 +0100GMT (18.12.2008, 21:00 +0100GMT here), you wrote: GG When forwarding a HTML message with pictures, the message is changed to just text, GG ... GG Why is this? GG The forwarded or redirected message should keep its original format. It does here. I just tried and forwarded an HTML-message including a picture to my other email address and it arrived correctly as the same HTML-mail. So, not confirmed regarding forwarding. I'll have to try redirecting yet. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) :beta: on WinXP, SP3, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, several newsgroups via MyGate OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 1024 MB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Christmas promotion?
Warsaw/PL, Thursday, December 18, 2008 Hello Robert, On Tue, 16 Dec 2008, at 20:31:44 (which was 20:31 where I live) in mid:32648371.20081216203...@tomanek.name you wrote: Ritlabs: now that we know that spending some cash for the 4.1 upgrade is inevitable -- any chance for a Christmas promotion (with reduced prices), as in previous years? AFAIK last Xmas promotion was back in 2006 - 30% for new licences and 50% off for renewals. -- Michal Kosinski TB! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) (4BF6F731) | Windows XP 5.1.2600 Dodatek Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forward - redirect changes message
I've tried different complex HTML newsletter: forwarding and redirecting to other client mailreader and Webmail services. Can not confirm it on 4.1.1.8 -- Mackley Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB creates TMP files in working directory when sending Mass Mailing messages
Hello, same like when I reported TMP files for UNIX mailbox import, I have created 160 messages by Mass Mail and tried to send them, everything is very slow (maybe problem in my Windows, I really do not know yet what happens here), but when I check TB's working directory, TMP file for every message is created there. Connection Centre tells Composing message... -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Icons
Hello Gunivortus, First, why don't you send me (us) a screenshot of your main toolbar so I (we) can see the icons size your are talking about? That is attached. Totally unusable. Too small (reduced) so I could never see real sizes and too compressed and, therefore, totally blurred. Are your toolbar icons the same size as mine in attached PNG? I do have 131 icon gif files C:\Program Files\The Bat!, they all have Images_Default_...gifin their names. Uh! I don't recall ever seeing similar gif files in my TB installation directory. Any idea where from or when you got them? One further question. Is this small icons problem you are having something that has appeared with the use of one of recent betas? Or has it been that way 'always'? Because if it is not a beta issue then I think we should move to TBUDL and continue this thread there. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 attachment: Toolbar.png Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello Thomas, (If you read German, you'll see the Cookidence below.) I can read German, but I don't understand a word. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! Again Pauses in the Midst of Message Composition.
Hi MAU, Thursday, December 18, 2008, 2:58:27 PM, you wrote: Hello Thomas, (If you read German, you'll see the Cookidence below.) I can read German, but I don't understand a word. ;-) Was war die Wichtigkeit von „Schlacht von Châlons, dann? By the way, I just had another pause in this editing of a composition window, and I had, as a test, turned off my AV package. It sounds like this is a TB! glitch. I never have it happen in any other email program. It may happen several times in one message or it may not happen for a few hours at a time. I don't understand it. I had no other program being used actively at the time but these were idling in the background: Firefox, Skype (not in active use), Palm Hotsynch (not in active use), Google Calendar Synch (not in active use), Evernote Clipper (not in active use). -- Take Care, Bob -- Using The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! Again Pauses in the Midst of Message Composition.
Hello Bob, By the way, I just had another pause in this editing of a composition window, and I had, as a test, turned off my AV package. It sounds like this is a TB! glitch. Has this only happened with latest version? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! Again Pauses in the Midst of Message Composition.
Hello Bob, By the way, I just had another pause in this editing of a composition window, and I had, as a test, turned off my AV package. It sounds like this is a TB! glitch. Has this only happened with latest version? I had this happen too but I had some other things going on. I am not QUITE ready to say it was TB but am watching it closely -- Rick When you're caffeinated, all is right with the world v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB creates TMP files in working directory when sending Mass Mailing messages
Hello Marek, Thursday, December 18, 2008, 22:49:31, you wrote: same like when I reported TMP files for UNIX mailbox import, I have created 160 messages by Mass Mail and tried to send them, everything is very slow (maybe problem in my Windows, I really do not know yet what happens here), but when I check TB's working directory, TMP file for every message is created there. Connection Centre tells Composing message... Did you check mass mailing from another PC? Does it also create TMP files? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Ritlabs SRL http://www.ritlabs.com/ Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! Again Pauses in the Midst of Message Composition.
Hi Miquel, Thursday, December 18, 2008, 3:33:16 PM, you wrote: By the way, I just had another pause in this editing of a composition window, and I had, as a test, turned off my AV package. It sounds like this is a TB! glitch. Has this only happened with latest version? I first noticed it in the past couple of months, to the best of my recollection. I am not sure, and didn't pay too much attention at first, thinking it might have been an AV issue. I don't notice it with any other mail program I have used/tried, including others for IMAP testing/comparison only (with TB!). And it happens with and without AV working. Sorry I cannot think of any other causes, now, than TB, since it happens with no other mail program. I haven't a clue what could cause it. -- Take Care, Bob -- Using The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wrong html display
am Donnerstag, 18. Dezember 2008 um 16:10 schrieb Thomas Fernandez: You cannot convince a new user to accept that most of the HTML mails are rendered correctly. I can, because i know, the HTML Interface is pretty new. Never mind the technical problems, users just expect that *all* of their newsletters are shown correctly, as this is what they get from competing products. The equal discussion is already been declared a dead horse, because the benefits of the Bat are not to display HTML, this is new and has to be developed. Regardless of if i would have made it in another way, i have the knowledge and overview to declare, that RITLABS did their best, they could, as far as i see. Ritlabs cannot survive with only us enthusiasts - they need new buyers all the time, in order to pay their rent. Hm, i am afraid, but normally i can not explain, how the have survived over the last Years without an Upgrade fees for registration for a technically very imposant E-Mail Client. Maybe they dont want to code for the public people, or maybe they dont see what is important and what not? This is all not in my accountableness... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wrong html display
Hello Jens, On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 00:16:32 +0100 GMT (19/12/2008, 06:16 +0700 GMT), Jens Franik wrote: You cannot convince a new user to accept that most of the HTML mails are rendered correctly. JF I can, because i know, the HTML Interface is pretty new. HTML mail has been around for many many years. Until about 10 years ago, I was also against it, but that is like being against bad weather. It happens, and users find that several email clients render their HTML newsletters correctly but TB! doesn't. And it's not new to TB! anyway, Ritlabs has been working on HTML rendering for many years. Never mind the technical problems, users just expect that *all* of their newsletters are shown correctly, as this is what they get from competing products. JF The equal discussion is already been declared a dead horse, because the JF benefits of the Bat are not to display HTML, this is new and has to be JF developed. OK, let's skip the general discussion and concentrate on developing the HTML rendering engine to a perfect module within TB!. It doesn't help to say it doesn't work correctly, but never mind. You have to keep the competition in mind, and even if TB! has more functions and features than other clients, people want to read the newsletters they have subcribed to on purpose. One of my staff uses TB! and Outlook in parallel - there are many things (for example HTML) that Outlook simply does better and he doesn't want to miss it. JF Regardless of if i would have made it in another way, i have the JF knowledge and overview to declare, that RITLABS did their best, they JF could, as far as i see. True, but then again, no sales argument. Ritlabs cannot survive with only us enthusiasts - they need new buyers all the time, in order to pay their rent. JF Hm, i am afraid, but normally i can not explain, how the have survived JF over the last Years without an Upgrade fees for registration for a JF technically very imposant E-Mail Client. True again, I don't know that either. And they won't tell us. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. 9. It is far more impressive when others discover your good qualities without your help. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Icons
Hi MAU, That is attached. Totally unusable. I've put two others in a better resolution here: http://www.gunivortus.net/mau-1.jpg http://www.gunivortus.net/mau-2.jpg Are your toolbar icons the same size as mine in attached PNG? Can't say that really. the comparision of the text and the icons differs from mine. I do have 131 icon gif files C:\Program Files\The Bat!, they all have Images_Default_...gifin their names. Uh! I don't recall ever seeing similar gif files in my TB installation directory. Any idea where from or when you got them? They seem to be all smileys and were put there at 27.08.2008 together with an MSI file of TB. In the Images_default.msl, which belong to those GIFs are Ritlabs people named, 9val and Valerye Bostan. One further question. Is this small icons problem you are having something that has appeared with the use of one of recent betas? It is not related to a recent beta, but I would prefer it, to become this a developers item; several of my programs have the simple option to change the iconsize, f.i. my favourite file-handling program 'Total Commander' has the option to set the icons at 16x16 or 32x32. It would be great, if Ritlabs could implement such an option to resize all icons. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
