Processing Folders loop issue

2023-03-21 Thread Chris Wilson




  Is there any hope of the long standing bug where, if you view TB! over the LAN using Windows Remote Desktop and close TB!  it gets stuck in a loop "Processing Folders" that requires Task Manager to get out of please?

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Re[2]: Can I load a none "nau" beta over an nau release version?

2022-09-27 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Tuesday, September 27, 2022, 2:23:31 PM, you wrote:

> Howdy!

> Вы писали 27 сентября 2022 г., 13:31:12:
>> Can I load a none "nau" beta over this nau release version?
>>  
> Did you mean install? Yep, you can 

> Best Regards, George Salnik
> RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator



> 
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OK, thanks very much George.
 
 

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Can I load a none "nau" beta over an nau release version?

2022-09-27 Thread Chris Wilson

Can I load a none "nau" beta over this nau release version?
 
Thanks .
  

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Re[2]: Re the Remote Desktop folder processing issue

2022-08-27 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Saturday, August 27, 2022, 7:12:16 PM, you wrote:

> On 2022-08-25 at 13:19 (UTC +0100) Chris Wilson wrote:
>> hard drive to the base TB! files is having an effect on the Remote
>> Desktop folder processing problem? I am assuming not all v10.* users
>> of Remote Desktop have this issue, so there must be some difference

> Could you please provide a link to this bug you posted in Ritlabs bug
> tracker?



I didn't post one as Stefan was aware of it and trying to fix it when I myself 
discovered it. Should I post a bug report even if Stefan knows about this? 
Thanks.

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Re the Remote Desktop folder processing issue

2022-08-25 Thread Chris Wilson

Do you think the fact I have the TB! mail database on a different hard drive to 
the base TB! files is having an effect on the Remote Desktop folder processing 
problem? I am assuming not all v10.* users of Remote Desktop have this issue, 
so there must be some difference in their installations? 
 
Just trying to help the developers get a fix fo this... Thanks.
  

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Re[2]: Blue vertical bars in HTML message

2022-08-12 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Friday, August 12, 2022, 9:38:17 PM, you wrote:

> G'day Martin,

> On Monday, August 8, 2022, at 4:25:37 AM, you (Martin) wrote:

>> Hi TBBETA

>> What's about these strange blue vertical bars in a HTML message I want 
>> to print. In print preview you can see them - see the screenshot as 
>> attachment.

>> Is there any possibility to switch them off?

> Aren't they the equivalent of the > >> >>> threading indicators for in plain 
> text messages?


> Regards



That is what I have always thought, although being a Luddite I tend to avoid 
HTML in e-mail.

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Re[2]: Bat Beta Series

2022-07-26 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Tuesday, July 26, 2022, 12:49:26 PM, you wrote:

JS> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022, 13:43:07, Chris Wilson wrote:

>> May I ask if the next beta is likely to fix the Remote Desktop issue please?

JS> What remote desktop issue? (I'm asking because I often remote to my home 
computer, and never noticed any problems with TB)


When I close a RD session with TB running on the remote machine, and then later 
start the RD session again, TB is "doing something" with the Maintenance 
Centre, something that never progresses, and needs Task manager to kill it. 
Stefan says it is a bug that's hard to trace. 

I updated to v10.1 to be able to still use a GMAIL account and then discovered 
this RD anomaly. If it's any help I have also found starting the "resting" 
remote PC directly also sees The Bat! starting its maintenance tricks. What I 
really want to know is if there's an intermediate version of TB! that still 
supports the new GMAIL authentication, but DOES NOT have this Remote Desktop 
bug?


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Re[2]: Bat Beta Series

2022-07-26 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Tuesday, July 26, 2022, 11:11:59 AM, you wrote:

STvT> Hello Ethan, 



STvT> Quick question - has beta testing ended?



STvT> Quick answer - no. :-)


STvT> We're preparing a new Beta right now.




May I ask if the next beta is likely to fix the Remote Desktop issue please?

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Another v1.1 bug?

2022-07-24 Thread Chris Wilson



 The user selected  Global View Mode is not sticking. Every time TB! is closed 
it reopens with Global View Mode set to 

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Bug in v1.1 ??

2022-07-24 Thread Chris Wilson



  Evaluation version, open despatch centre to download a message with an 
attachment over the size limit. Click to download the message and attachment. 
TB! opens the evaluation screen showing ho many days left as if TB! were closed.

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Re[2]: Font corruption in Maintenance Centre

2022-07-01 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Friday, July 1, 2022, 2:27:04 AM, you wrote:

TM> Hello Chris,

TM> Thursday, June 30, 2022, 5:18:58 PM, you wrote:

CW>>>   See link to screen shot. Plus, overnight a Processing Folders box 
appaears of its own accord, cannot be stopped nor closed and needs task Manager 
to kill it, at which point TB! restarts itself, despite it having been left 
running

CW>>> http://www.chriswilson.tv/maintenance-font.jpg

CW>>> Thanks, if it matters I updated from a legacy version the other day, I 
was running v5.8.10


>> OK, some more info on Processing Folders starting up on its own, that may or 
>> may not be relevant. I use TB! remotely, it's actually on another PC on a 
>> hard wired LAN and I access that PC with Microsoft's Remote Desktop. If TB 
>> is running on the remote PC and the Remote Desktop link is closed, when the 
>> link is re-opened, that's when it is likely to start processing folders of 
>> its own accord. Very annoying as Task Manager is needed to kill it. My 
>> legacy version 5.5.10  has no issues all and has never done this. HTH.

TM> Try Folder / Properties / Additional / On Exit

TM> Maybe this is the problem. I have taken all tickmarks off and do the 
maintenance manually.

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Sadly it has made no difference, but thanks for the idea Thomas. If I 
disconnect the Remote Desktop session to the PC actually running TB, with TB 
still running normally on the remote PC,  when i next connect a Remote Desktop 
session TB just shows it's running folder maintenance, this won't cancel or 
close, and the progress bar is empty and never populates, let alone moves. Task 
Manager is the only fix, and TB then starts as if it were never running. 5.8.10 
never, ever did this, so it's something in later versions I am sure. It's 100 
percent repeatable. Can I log anything?

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Re[2]: Font corruption in Maintenance Centre

2022-07-01 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Friday, July 1, 2022, 2:27:04 AM, you wrote:

TM> Hello Chris,

TM> Thursday, June 30, 2022, 5:18:58 PM, you wrote:

CW>>>   See link to screen shot. Plus, overnight a Processing Folders box 
appaears of its own accord, cannot be stopped nor closed and needs task Manager 
to kill it, at which point TB! restarts itself, despite it having been left 
running

CW>>> http://www.chriswilson.tv/maintenance-font.jpg

CW>>> Thanks, if it matters I updated from a legacy version the other day, I 
was running v5.8.10


>> OK, some more info on Processing Folders starting up on its own, that may or 
>> may not be relevant. I use TB! remotely, it's actually on another PC on a 
>> hard wired LAN and I access that PC with Microsoft's Remote Desktop. If TB 
>> is running on the remote PC and the Remote Desktop link is closed, when the 
>> link is re-opened, that's when it is likely to start processing folders of 
>> its own accord. Very annoying as Task Manager is needed to kill it. My 
>> legacy version 5.5.10  has no issues all and has never done this. HTH.

TM> Try Folder / Properties / Additional / On Exit

TM> Maybe this is the problem. I have taken all tickmarks off and do the 
maintenance manually.

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TM> under Windows 10.0 Build 19043


OK, I hadn’t seen those options, but I have un-ticked them now and will see if 
it cures the problem, thank you.




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Re: Font corruption in Maintenance Centre

2022-06-30 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 7:31:49 PM, you wrote:



CW>   See link to screen shot. Plus, overnight a Processing Folders box 
appaears of its own accord, cannot be stopped nor closed and needs task Manager 
to kill it, at which point TB! restarts itself, despite it having been left 
running

CW> http://www.chriswilson.tv/maintenance-font.jpg

CW> Thanks, if it matters I updated from a legacy version the other day, I was 
running v5.8.10


OK, some more info on Processing Folders starting up on its own, that may or 
may not be relevant. I use TB! remotely, it's actually on another PC on a hard 
wired LAN and I access that PC with Microsoft's Remote Desktop. If TB is 
running on the remote PC and the Remote Desktop link is closed, when the link 
is re-opened, that's when it is likely to start processing folders of its own 
accord. Very annoying as Task Manager is needed to kill it. My legacy version 
5.5.10  has no issues all and has never done this. HTH.


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Font corruption in Maintenance Centre

2022-06-28 Thread Chris Wilson



  See link to screen shot. Plus, overnight a Processing Folders box appaears of 
its own accord, cannot be stopped nor closed and needs task Manager to kill it, 
at which point TB! restarts itself, despite it having been left running

http://www.chriswilson.tv/maintenance-font.jpg

Thanks, if it matters I updated from a legacy version the other day, I was 
running v5.8.10

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Re[2]: TheBat! will not get any mails from GMail after March 31st?! (Fwd: Einschränken des Zugriffs auf Daten in Ihrem Google-Konto)

2019-03-22 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Friday, March 22, 2019, 12:19:59 PM, you wrote:

avT>  Don't worry, we updated TheBat! access and it will work with GMail after 
31 of March.
avT>  
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avT>  Andrei Slisuarenco, Ritlabs

Will  my  legacy  version of TB! also continue to work or can I change
any settings to make it work please? Version is in my sig, thank you.

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Re: What is the location of the TB! support forum please?

2013-10-09 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 2:24:21 AM, you wrote:

 Hello Chris,

 On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 19:32:09 +0100 GMT (09-Oct-13, 01:32 +0700 GMT),
 Chris Wilson wrote:



   Before a hard drive failure I had a desktop link to an English
   speaking support forum for new and none technical TB! users. I can't
   remember what the link was, can anyone assist please? I have a none
   beta question about seemingly flaky folder view modes since re
   installing 4.2.44.2

   Many thanks.


 Not sure about desktop, but you can subscribe to The Bat User
 Discussion List (TBUDL) by sending a mail to
 tbudl-requ...@thebat.dutaint.com with subscribe (without quotes) in
 the subject line.


Thanks  Thomas,  I will subscribe to that, but the one I used before was
web based.

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Re[2]: What is the location of the TB! support forum please?

2013-10-09 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 10:17:42 AM, you wrote:

GwenDragon Hello Chris Wilson,

GwenDragon at 2013-10-09 10:11 you wrote:

 Thanks  GwenDragon.  The  web forum I am trying to recall was used (by
 me)  and  taking  regualr  postings  only a few weeks ago, maybe three
 weeks  back. I did think it was under the Ritlabs jurisdiction, but as
 I couldn't trace a forum there, I thought I was mistaken. have Ritlabs
 taken that forum off line very recently?

GwenDragon Ritlabs had changed their server a few days ago. I guess they will 
reinstall the
GwenDragon forum at ritlabs.com in the next days or may be worst case weeks.


Ahh! That'll be it then. Trust me to have a hard drive failure at the
same time the support forum is taken off line LOL :) Thank you
GwenDragon!

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What is the location of the TB! support forum please?

2013-10-08 Thread Chris Wilson


  Before a hard drive failure I had a desktop link to an English
  speaking support forum for new and none technical TB! users. I can't
  remember what the link was, can anyone assist please? I have a none
  beta question about seemingly flaky folder view modes since re
  installing 4.2.44.2

  Many thanks.

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Odd but urgent request from beta list member

2011-12-28 Thread Chris Wilson


  I  have  had  a  restore  failure and it may be because I am using a
  later  version of V4 than that from which I made the backup file. My
  PC had a nasty virus and my only option was to reinstall after a full
  format.  I  have  no  way to find out what version of TB I was suing
  when  I  made  the backup file other than see if someone will kindly
  search  the  last month's database here on the beta list for a post i
  made  asking for help on backing up. It *SHOULD show what version I
  was  then using in my sig. Sorry to be a pain, but I can think of no
  other  ay  to  find  what version made the backup. Thanks, and may I
  wish  all  a  happy  New Year for next week. User name should be the
  same, Chris Wilson.

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Re: Odd but urgent request from beta list member

2011-12-28 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 11:56:28 AM, you wrote:

 Hi Chris,

 Just short as I am on the go ...

 From your post from 29. Oct 2010
 BTW - your last post I have from 24. Nov 2011 has the same signature
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 On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Chris Wilson ch...@chriswilson.tv wrote:


  I  have  had  a  restore  failure and it may be because I am using a
  later  version of V4 than that from which I made the backup file. My
  PC had a nasty virus and my only option was to reinstall after a full
  format.  I  have  no  way to find out what version of TB I was suing
  when  I  made  the backup file other than see if someone will kindly
  search  the  last month's database here on the beta list for a post i
  made  asking for help on backing up. It *SHOULD show what version I
  was  then using in my sig. Sorry to be a pain, but I can think of no
  other  ay  to  find  what version made the backup. Thanks, and may I
  wish  all  a  happy  New Year for next week. User name should be the
  same, Chris Wilson.

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Re: message filtering

2011-11-24 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Tuesday, November 22, 2011, 2:02:19 PM, you wrote:

 Hi Thomas,

GG The sorting office filtering does not work properly;
GG my old filters from v4 work fine, all new ones I made in v5
GG don't work. Nevertheless, I created them the same as the
GG old ones.

 Just a question: Are you using POP or IMAP?

 POP3. Never used IMAP, nor do I have any plans to do that.

 After creating the filters new, they're working... knocking on wood... but the
 blue - black coloring didn't change. Well, if that's all, I don't care. :-)


I have had a crash and my BAT backup on this PC doesn't contain some recently
created filters. I have a current backup on another PC, which file
holds the filters, and can I just copy it over (V4.2.36.4)? Thanks

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Re: No mails from TBBETA

2010-10-29 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Friday, October 29, 2010, 3:06:30 PM, you wrote:

 Hi,

 I have not got any mail from TBBETA since Oct. 4, 2010! What is the matter?


None from since the 1st October here...

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Re[2]: Duplicated The Bat! in Taskbar under Vista

2008-02-25 Thread Chris Wilson



 And here.

 Doug


I get this under Windows 2000 SP4, too.

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4.0.0.18 asking for none existent account password

2008-02-04 Thread Chris Wilson


  Random access violations and asks for a none existent account
password when changing folders.

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Re[2]: Hunspell - how to

2008-02-04 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Monday, February 4, 2008, 10:57:37 PM, you wrote:


 Unfortunately, I cannot force hunspell to work. I have all needed
 files in Dictionaries directory and no language from this set is
 available for me. The CSAPI engine also does not work, only the SSCE
 one is accepted.

 I think something is still wrong in The Bat!.


I have the exact same situation with this alpha of TB!

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Spell checker problems

2008-01-04 Thread Chris Wilson


  Losing it's auto check setting, and now the US English dictionary
option has disappeared. Anyone else having issues?

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Re[2]: The Bat! 4.0.0.5 ALPHA

2007-12-31 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Monday, December 31, 2007, 4:03:21 PM, you wrote:


 full back-uponce  error

 There were no AV's on the same full backup I previously did, but every
 account folder that had messages generated an error message:

 An error occurred while storing data of the folder
 \\betaloggy\Sent Mail

 It is possible that the message base index file is damages - try
 to delete the index file and re-read the folder, then try to
 backup again

 Perhaps it has something to do with OTFE? There is a screenshot at:

 http://nealtech.us/files/images/tb-screenshot1a.png


Same problem here, an error for every folder backed up, and I am NOT
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Re: 4.0.0.3: Many functions disabled (greyed out) for no apparent reason

2007-12-27 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Thursday, December 27, 2007, 2:53:49 PM, you wrote:

 Hello all,

 I was reading a message in my TBBeta list folder when I noticed I
 couldn't mark it as Read. Looking at the Message List context menu I
 noticed that the Mark as Read, Unread and Delete options were disabled
 and greyed out (see attachment). Looking at Main Toolbar the options to
 Reply, Fwd, Delete, print, etc., were also greyed out (see attachment).

 Moving to a different message or folder didn't change anything, the
 options were disabled for good. I had to re-start TB to get them enabled
 again.

 Anybody noticed something similar?


Seeing the exact same thing here, too.

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Re: Backups error flag

2007-07-10 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Thursday, June 7, 2007, 1:49:49 PM, you wrote:


   When setting TB to do auto backups I always get this error flag, and
 no backup is saved. manual backups work fine.

 Error writing file C:\BAT_Backups
 SaveHeader The operation completed successfully

 Any ideas? thanks.


Bump, anyone got an opinion / answer to this please?

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Backups error flag

2007-06-07 Thread Chris Wilson


  When setting TB to do auto backups I always get this error flag, and
no backup is saved. manual backups work fine.

Error writing file C:\BAT_Backups
SaveHeader The operation completed successfully

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Re: Wish: common QTs

2007-01-29 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Monday, January 29, 2007, 9:10:42 PM, you wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 I'd like to suggest the implementation of common quick templates, just
 like we have common folders and common filters.

snip

It gets my full support, excellent suggestion! :)




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Re[2]: 3.95.02

2006-12-21 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Thursday, December 21, 2006, 9:34:39 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Maxim,

 3.95.02 is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb39502.rar

 [+] Server information: you can unpack the ServersInfo folder with
 *.dsi files to the same folder with thebat.exe, and, when you will be
 creating a new account, you will be offered default settings. Please try 
 this feature.

 Created a Gmail account and it worked. The only thing I had to change
 was the pop server name which is pop.gmail.com and not
 pop3.gemail.com

 Can this *.dsi files be created from within TB?

 Also, version in signature and About is 3.95.2 and not .02


It would be really useful if users could create their own *.dsi files
for future usage, or to make it easy for a friend to set up TB! for a
given provider. So, similar question, can we create *.dsi files using
TB, or can someone provide the means to do this? Thanks.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.86.09bis BETA is avalilable at www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb38609bis.rar

2006-12-12 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Sunday, December 10, 2006, 10:06:51 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Simon

JS Filters with Recipient contains  seem to be broken
JS in this one.

 Confirmed

 ... and in the original .09 beta; they were/do work OK in the .08 Beta.

 It gets worse; I have a filter that moves all email into a folder from
 the account inboxes. This has never happened previously. I have just
 had one stay in the inbox yet when I opened the filters and refilter
 after editing it moved correctly. I did no editing


Likewise here, gone back to previous version.

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Re[2]: Problems copy pasting from TB

2006-11-10 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Thursday, November 9, 2006, 10:11:58 PM, you wrote:

 I am now unable to copy paste in *ANY* application, I am thinking a
 virus or a trojan, a young relative was playing on this PC a while
 back :( I'll do a full scan, thanks.

 Try cleaning temp files and rebooting - I get this daily in Corel Draw
 and that is the solution (for me :)
 --
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Found a Trojan, removed it, re booted (first time in 2006), loaded
latest Stopzilla, and checked again: clean. I'll keep pesky kids out of
my office in future! Thanks for the advice.

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Problems copy pasting from TB

2006-11-09 Thread Chris Wilson


  I can no longer copy / paste from either headers or body text on plain
messages. I have noticed this since the last few betas. Anyone else
seeing this at all?

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Re[2]: Problems copy pasting from TB

2006-11-09 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Thursday, November 9, 2006, 6:28:23 PM, you wrote:

 Hallo Chris,

 On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 18:14:55 +GMT (9-11-2006, 19:14 , where I
 live), you wrote:

CW   I can no longer copy / paste from either headers or body text on plain
CW messages. I have noticed this since the last few betas. Anyone else
CW seeing this at all?

 Cannot confirm, works fine over here in the preview pane.
 No matter whether I use the PTV or the RTV.


I am now unable to copy paste in *ANY* application, I am thinking a
virus or a trojan, a young relative was playing on this PC a while
back :( I'll do a full scan, thanks.

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Re: 3.86.03 Alpha

2006-10-30 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Saturday, October 28, 2006, 10:49:35 AM, you wrote:

 Hi,

 TheBat closes automatically though connection manager has not
 downloaded all mails. What can be the reason?


I get this, intermittently. It has occurred for about a year. I find a
particular message is responsible, maybe its filtering? I live with it,
I find it so irregular as to be hard to pin down.

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Re: Receiving emails crashed the Bat

2006-05-19 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Friday, May 19, 2006, 3:43:12 PM, you wrote:

 Hello tbbeta,

   Recently I have received legitimate emails from Symantec that upon
 receiving crashed The Bat. The  crash was that the bat just quit with
 out warning. In addition I have both  compacted and run maintence on
 the inbox. Removing the emails from the server solved the issue. I am
 using 3.80.06 This to me is a show stopper bug.  


I have had this, with perhaps one in 1000 or so e-mails, for about a
year now, with various versions. I tried to send the message that
triggered the crash to someone far more knowledgeable than myself, but I
was doing something wrong and it arrived adulterated. Not happened for
a few days, but it has been a regular occurrence across many betas and
releases.

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Re[2]: TB closing on receipt of a particular message

2006-03-21 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 2:15:48 AM, you wrote:

 Hello Chris,

 On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:40:54 + GMT (21/03/2006, 02:40 +0700 GMT),
 Chris Wilson wrote:

 I don't see the boundary below the headers. Did you cp from the
 source view? If so, this may be the problem.

CW Shall I forward the message direct to you, unadulterated? Can you tell
CW better from that? 

 Yes, that would be an idea, so I will try to find the reason for the
 problem.


OK, I'll forward it to you, cheers.

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TB closing on receipt of a particular message

2006-03-20 Thread Chris Wilson


  Been having this for a long time, very intermittent. A certain message
will trigger TB to close without warning, only by referring to the log
and going into the dispatcher and deleting the message (which has
already been downloaded) will TB continue. It may be a filtering thing?
I can forward the message, minus some bank info in the body, to anyone
who can check this, but I don't know how to forward filtering rules, can
anyone help please? Thanks. The message is copied, with headers, below:

Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from ev-mail-3.gradwell.net ([67.15.113.40])
by schroedinger.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.43)
id 1FLFkd-00075G-W8
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:28:32 +
X-Gradwell-Mailfilter: 2115 not matched
X-Envelope-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
X-Forwarding-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Received: from 213-140-2-69.ip.fastwebnet.it ([213.140.2.69] 
helo=aa002msg.fastwebnet.it)
  by ev-mail-3.gradwell.net with esmtp (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.214) id 
441e67a7.103ae.12ee
  for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:28:23 +
  (envelope-sender [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Received: from ms005msg.fastwebnet.it (10.31.41.25) by aa002msg.fastwebnet.it 
(7.2.069.1)
id 43D649540138927E for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:28:20 
+0100
Received: from [10.0.1.4] (23.240.120.125) by ms005msg.fastwebnet.it (7.2.070)
id 43F1EB8200D5DC41 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:28:20 
+0100
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2)
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--820426638
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: E.LUCARELLI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: restriction ring info
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:23:34 +0100
To: Chris Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2)
X-Zen-Test-Spam-Score: 3
X-Zen-Test-Spam-Bar: (/)
X-Originating-Schroedinger-IP: [67.15.113.40]
X-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
X-Envelope-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
X-Zen-Loop2: 21c4cb65f35af98879659524a610bf4c
X-Zen-Loop: 98b8a112f33b0eebe96635c2897b3fdf
X-Zen-Stored: hausdorff.zen.co.uk/1FLFkf-00014u-46/2006-03-20 08:28:33

Hello, I have build by myself exhaust flange with 80mm pipe on my jdm  
jza80. I can fit restrictor ring? where I must insert the ring? in  
the pipe or flange?
thanks
Emanuele Lucarelli





 Thursday, February 23, 2006, 8:35:03 AM, you wrote:

 Hello, I'm MANXMANX from UK supra forum, can u send me price and info
 about restriction ring, but is only jdm spec problem?
 best regard
 Emanuele Lucarelli


 25 pounds including post and packing. Only needed on jap spec cars  
 with
 both cats removed. if you want one i have stock, payment options  
 below.
 Thanks.

 How to pay?

 Unfortunately I do not have the means to accept credit card  
 payments, so
 either a cheque made payable to C Wilson, sent to the below  
 address, or
 a direct inter bank transfer to my business account below will be
 satisfactory. I also take Paypal, but there is a 4% surcharge for  
 these
 payments which you must add to your total bill. My Paypal address is


 Postal Address:

 C Wilson

 Bank details:

 Barclays Bank


 Sort Code:

 International Swift Code:

 Account Name:

 Account Number:

 PLEASE, PLEASE on bank transfers, always put your real name as the
 reference, it makes things faster when checking receipt of funds.
 A multi digit computer generated number is not very helpful as a
 reference!

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Re[2]: TB closing on receipt of a particular message

2006-03-20 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Monday, March 20, 2006, 4:13:13 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Chris,

 On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:55:43 + GMT (20/03/2006, 16:55 +0700 GMT),
 Chris Wilson wrote:

CW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--820426638

 I don't see the boundary below the headers. Did you cp from the
 source view? If so, this may be the problem.


Shall I forward the message direct to you, unadulterated? Can you tell
better from that? I just copy pasted before from the show RFC headers view.

Thanks for the reply.

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Quick Template bug?

2006-02-15 Thread Chris Wilson


  In one of my quick templates I have, as part of a line, 4%, that's
four percent. When copied into a message the percent sign (%) is not
shown. I use a UK keyboard, it works fine as part of a mesage itself, as
far as I am aware.

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Re[2]: Quick Template bug?

2006-02-15 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Wednesday, February 15, 2006, 7:31:02 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Chris,
 Wednesday, February 15, 2006, 1:03:24 PM, you wrote:

  In one of my quick templates I have, as part of a line, 4%, that's
 four percent. When copied into a message the percent sign (%) is not
 shown. I use a UK keyboard, it works fine as part of a mesage itself, as
 far as I am aware.

 OK I should have tried it first. Try 4%%, that seems to work.


OK, that seems to work, thanks. But surely a QT should just copy the
text verbatim, into the message? Is this a bug? To me it looks like one,
is this behaviour documented in the help file, as I couldn't see
anything? Cheers.

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Re[2]: Fikter to dump messages with more than 10 recipients in the To: header?

2006-02-02 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Wednesday, February 1, 2006, 10:54:50 PM, you wrote:

 Hallo Chris,

 On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 19:26:03 +GMT (1-2-2006, 20:26 +0100, where I
 live), you wrote:

CW   A mailing list I am on has been having trouble. Someone on the list

 Een though you're using a beta. This rather off topic. Please take
 such a question to tbudl or tbtech the next time.


I will, thanks.

Thanks for the filter Zygmunt! Appreciated.

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Fikter to dump messages with more than 10 recipients in the To: header?

2006-02-01 Thread Chris Wilson


  A mailing list I am on has been having trouble. Someone on the list
had the bright idea to add all the list members addresses to the To:
header, so now I am getting dozens of messages that are impossible to
filter properly. I want to create a filter to send any messages with more
than say 10 recipients in the To: header line to trash. Could anyone
suggest something suitable please? Thanks.

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Delete via keyboard not working reliably

2005-12-21 Thread Chris Wilson
If I have another message open in the editor, then highlight a message
in the message pane, without invoking a full size reading window, I can
delete it from the right mouse button menu, but not via the keyboard.
Anyone else?

  

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Help, I've done a stupid thing....

2005-11-18 Thread Chris Wilson


  I have deleted a defunct account without realising that it contained
ALL my templates. I used to just switch to that accounts templates when
in my current account. I DO have an August 05 dated backup of all of TB!,
and the templates I need haven't changed from that time. Is there a way
to restore only those files containing the templates, and copy them to
the current, existing account please? Otherwise hours of work creating
new ones! If I do a restore from that backup will it delete messages and
data added subsequent to the restore in this existing copy of TB! ?
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Re: Help, I've done a stupid thing....

2005-11-18 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Friday, November 18, 2005, 11:53:55 AM, you wrote:


   I have deleted a defunct account without realising that it contained
 ALL my templates. I used to just switch to that accounts templates when
 in my current account. I DO have an August 05 dated backup of all of TB!,
 and the templates I need haven't changed from that time. Is there a way
 to restore only those files containing the templates, and copy them to
 the current, existing account please? Otherwise hours of work creating
 new ones! If I do a restore from that backup will it delete messages and
 data added subsequent to the restore in this existing copy of TB! ?
 Thanks.


Initial panic over, i explored restore further ( I was frightened it may
just overwrite the existing data, losing anything later than the backup
files, and found i could restore the deleted account on its own! Phew,
so that's saved my stupid hide...

I now want to copy all the Quick Templates from account X to account Y,
then delete account x completely. How do i achieve that in this beta
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Re[2]: Help, I've done a stupid thing....

2005-11-18 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Friday, November 18, 2005, 12:42:39 PM, you wrote:

 Hallo Chris,

 On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 12:02:04 +GMT (18-11-2005, 13:02 +0100, where
 I live), you wrote:

CW I now want to copy all the Quick Templates from account X to account Y,
CW then delete account x completely. How do i achieve that in this beta
CW please?

 Just copy the account.qtn from your old account to an account without
 QTs. When you're using OTFE the file is called account.etn


That's worked perfectly, thanks a lot! A full up to date backup will
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Re[2]: Help, I've done a stupid thing....

2005-11-18 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Friday, November 18, 2005, 12:02:46 PM, you wrote:

 Hello all,
 Friday, November 18, 2005, Chris Wilson wrote:

   I have deleted a defunct account without realising that it contained
 ALL my templates. I used to just switch to that accounts templates when
 in my current account. I DO have an August 05 dated backup of all of TB!,
 and the templates I need haven't changed from that time. Is there a way
 to restore only those files containing the templates, and copy them to
 the current, existing account please? Otherwise hours of work creating
 new ones! If I do a restore from that backup will it delete messages and
 data added subsequent to the restore in this existing copy of TB! ?
 Thanks.

 download following app, start it, select backup file, find ACCOUNT.CFN
 (account settings with account templates), ACCOUNT.FLB (folders
 structure with folder templates) and ACCOUNT.QTN (quick templates) and
 save them to disk. Create new folder on disk in MAIL directory for
 example TEST, copy these files to it, create new account TEST in
 TB and confirm all OK in this wizard. Then open properties of
 TEST account and copy templates into Smartbat for example.

 ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/utilities/tbkdigger.zip


Downloaded and saved, thanks for that, but I used Roelofs' method to do
the transfer, as it seemed a lot less complex, and I have had enough
frights for today :) Thanks again.

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Account folders won't delete

2005-08-24 Thread Chris Wilson


  Trying to delete folders in a little used account. Delete ; Wipe,
folder appears to delete, but is still there... Happens with every folder
i try it on, all are empty, no parked messages. Thanks for any ideas.

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Re[2]: Account folders won't delete

2005-08-24 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Wednesday, August 24, 2005, 2:25:07 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Chris,

 Wednesday, August 24, 2005, 7:44:44 AM, you wrote:
   Trying to delete folders in a little used account. Delete ; Wipe,
 folder appears to delete, but is still there... Happens with every folder
 i try it on, all are empty, no parked messages. Thanks for any ideas.
   Did you try to also delete at the OS level? I doubt that TB would
   recreate.

No, but subsequently found Delete : Move to Trash worked, whilst Delete
: Wipe failed... Thanks for the idea.

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Re[2]: 3.51, Communication, and the Ethics of Beta Testing

2005-07-18 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Monday, July 18, 2005, 9:58:56 AM, you wrote:

 On 7/18/05, Natasha V Pearce wrote:
  been  taken  out  of context, but if you feel I've misquoted you and/or 
 quoted
  them  in  a  misleading or otherwise inappropriate manner, please feel free 
 to
  send  down  the  fire-breathing  trout  of vengeance to toast me in the pit 
 of
  eternal torment.

 Natasha, believe it or not, this is a very serious topic for me. I do
 not want to raise any temperatures. I think there is a serious problem
 that needs to be addressed.

 Although Max's mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] clearly states that:
 
  It fixes charset issues of the latest 3.5.xx
 
  I had no idea that instead of this ostensible objective RL was going to 
  use me
  as an alpha tester for a feature or enhancement that would distort the 
  content
  of messages that I transmit.

 That is correct, Natasha. And, if I recall correctly, you also had no
 idea that you were testing a new feature that was going to change the
 content of your messages. According to Max, the purpose of that MSI
 was to fix existing issues in 3.5.xx - which, it seems, did not
 include the loss of content in messages that you discovered in 3.51.
 Also, please read what Max said again. He was giving us an MSI that
 was intended to fix one last problem in 3.5.xx before putting this
 release up for download. With an introduction like that - and with the
 BayesIt problem still unresolved - who would imagine that we would be
 embarking on an entirely new series of beta (pardon, me, alpha)
 testing of a very risky nature? Certainly I did not expect that, and I
 was genuinely shocked to discover it.

  So I have a fundamental concern here. I believe that the July 6 
  announcement
  of 3.51 on this forum (see below) was entirely misleading.
 
 Based on?

 See above.


Are you sure you are cut out for testing software? Sounds like you might
find your niche looking for raised paving slabs and bringing a claim
against your local authority, or starting one of those US originated
Where there's blame there's a claim rackets. All IMO.

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Re: Reading messagebases from a CD?

2005-07-06 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Monday, July 4, 2005, 1:27:14 PM, you wrote:



   I have a LOT of old mail I need to keep for a couple of years, at the
 moment it's just in a folder called Old mail, it's taking up a lot of
 space and maybe slowing TB! down, although nothing is obvious. I'd like
 to store it on a CD, but can I devise a means of reading and searching
 messages on a CD without re loading them back into TB! on the hard drive
 itself? Can I reply to such messages as if they were on the hard drive?

 Thanks.


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Reading messagebases from a CD?

2005-07-04 Thread Chris Wilson


  I have a LOT of old mail I need to keep for a couple of years, at the
moment it's just in a folder called Old mail, it's taking up a lot of
space and maybe slowing TB! down, although nothing is obvious. I'd like
to store it on a CD, but can I devise a means of reading and searching
messages on a CD without re loading them back into TB! on the hard drive
itself? Can I reply to such messages as if they were on the hard drive?

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Re: The Bat! 3.5.34 is now available

2005-06-30 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Thursday, June 30, 2005, 5:27:52 PM, you wrote:

 Hi All,

 The Bat! 3.5.34 is now available from:
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

 Here is a short list of changes:
 [-] Exchange: (#0002930) after  a  certain  amount  of MAPI
   sessions,  The  Bat! could no longer connect to Exchange
   server due to increasing usage of memory
 [-] IMAP: probably fixes of AVs
 [-] IMAP: folder counters re-work

 Only purpose is to test Exchange fixes.
 And... Now TB! doesn't need props.dll


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Anti virus quarantine folder, how to move?

2005-06-15 Thread Chris Wilson


  I want to move my AVG anti virus quarantine folder to another
account, there doesn't appear to be an option to do this. Have I missed
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Re[3]: Anti virus quarantine folder, how to move?

2005-06-15 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Wednesday, June 15, 2005, 5:07:37 PM, you wrote:

 Wednesday, June 15, 2005, 11:03:04 AM, (Internet Time - @710) you wrote:

 Hello Michael,

 

MA --On Wednesday, June 15, 2005 16:37 +0100 Chris Wilson 
MA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



   I want to move my AVG anti virus quarantine folder to another
 account, there doesn't appear to be an option to do this. Have I missed
 something? Thanks.

MA Have you tried dragging and dropping the Folder? Not for sure but I was
MA able to do that with other folders, but haven't move the AVG Anti-Virus
MA folder.

MA Give it a try...

 Nope that doesn't work. Sorry.

 Tried to move it from one account to another, but didn't work. I was
 able to move it OUT of the directory tree, but was not able to move
 it to another account.

 Sorry for the misinformation...



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Re[2]: Anti virus quarantine folder, how to move?

2005-06-15 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Wednesday, June 15, 2005, 5:12:40 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Chris,

   I want to move my AVG anti virus quarantine folder to another
 account, there doesn't appear to be an option to do this. Have I missed
 something? Thanks.

 There is no need to move the Quarantine folder. AFAIK, each account does
 'have' one although it will not be visible until the first message is
 moved to it.



So when I delete the account which it's in, it will automagically
migrate to my other account, which has then becomes the sole account?

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Re[2]: Anti virus quarantine folder, how to move?

2005-06-15 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Wednesday, June 15, 2005, 5:46:37 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Chris,

 I want to move my AVG anti virus quarantine folder to another
 account, there doesn't appear to be an option to do this.

 Ctrl + Alt + DragDrop


Thanks, that's worked, I hope AVG is smart enough to find it in its new
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Re: The most un-obvious things: Insert Quick Template

2005-06-05 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members,

Saturday, June 4, 2005, 10:18:31 PM, you wrote:

 Apparently we're also missing in Customize (see earlier message about
 View-Display and View Modes) the Utilities-Insert-Insert Quick
 Template dropdown list function, so that it can't be assigned a
 shortcut or put on a toolbar button. (Insert Quick Template is
 available, but useless: It pops up a message informing you that the
 handle  isn't found.)

 The question is (and someone may have recently addressed this), why is
 such a potentially useful function as a QT picklist buried so far down
 in the main menu? Further, why couldn't the Ctrl + Shft + Q
 (create/edit/delete quick template) function also include an Insert
 button? This picklist menu, which features a scroll bar, is far
 superior to the one available under Utilities, and making
 one list do the work of two (at least in this instance) is a more
 eloquent solution.

 The ability to quickly insert bits and pieces of oft-used text is a very
 powerful tool.  Please make it easier to get to.


In toytal agreement with moving it to the top of a menu, and I also
think that Insert then Insert Quick Template and the totally different
function, but similarly named Insert Quick Template should be addressed.

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How to move AVG quarantine folder placement to another account?

2005-06-04 Thread Chris Wilson
I can't seem to find a setting to move my AVG anti virus quarantine
folder setting to another account I have created. I want to delete the
original account. Thanks.

  

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Re[2]: Copying messages to another folder loses Parked status

2005-06-03 Thread Chris Wilson
Hello Thomas,

Friday, June 3, 2005, 3:06:02 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Chris,

 On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:49:20 +0100 GMT (02/06/2005, 16:49 +0700 GMT),
 Chris Wilson wrote:

CW   I have changed ISP so am moving large numbers of messages around. If I
CW expand all threads in a folder, select all messages, and go to right
CW click, Move to Folder, select a folder in another account and move them
CW they have lost their previously parked status.

 It's always been like this: When you move a message, the park flag
 gets lost (there is a philosophy behind it that I forgot), but when
 you copy a message, the flag will be in the copy. Don't mix up
 copy (as your subject suggests) and move (which is what your
 message says).

 What I do when I want to actually move a message while maintaining the
 parked status, I copy it to the new folder and then delete the
 original message.


That is how i am now doing this, but I still think a move or a copy
should maintain all flags... :)

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How to make basic account templates apply to all folders?

2005-06-03 Thread Chris Wilson
How do I make the Account : Properties templates apply to all folders in
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Re[2]: How to make basic account templates apply to all folders?

2005-06-03 Thread Chris Wilson
Hello MAU,

Friday, June 3, 2005, 6:58:36 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Chris,

 How do I make the Account : Properties templates apply to all folders in
 that account? Thanks.

 That's the default, you have to do nothing.

Doesn't seem to apply to some other folders, after changing the Account
: Properties templates i still find many folders have the original, as
supplied with TB! templates applying.

See above, Hello MAU is derived from the original default template,
yet I have changed that to the following for a reply:

%ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, you wrote:

%Quotes
%Cursor

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Re[2]: How to make basic account templates apply to all folders?

2005-06-03 Thread Chris Wilson


Friday, June 3, 2005, 9:03:32 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Chris,

   A reminder of what Chris Wilson typed on:
   June 3, 2005 at 20:35:02 GMT +0100

CW Doesn't seem to apply to some other folders, after changing the Account
CW : Properties templates i still find many folders have the original, as
CW supplied with TB! templates applying.

CW See above, Hello MAU is derived from the original default template,
CW yet I have changed that to the following for a reply:

CW %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, you wrote:

CW %Quotes
CW %Cursor

 Is the reply to this list not using a template specific to the list.
 It is not using the template you copied as there is a signature
 showing the version of TB! you are using.



Mea culpa! Sorry. I remember now, I added TB and Windows info before i
forgot, when creating the new account. Of course, later creating a
generic template won't overwrite a folder specific one, sorry.

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Re[2]: How to make basic account templates apply to all folders?

2005-06-03 Thread Chris Wilson


Friday, June 3, 2005, 10:31:46 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Chris,

 Doesn't seem to apply to some other folders, after changing the Account
 : Properties templates i still find many folders have the original, as
 supplied with TB! templates applying.


 Thos folders where it doesn't change may be because at some time you did
 include/change the templates manually. If you want those folders to use
 the account defaults, just delete the folder templates. Next time you
 take a look at the folder templates they should show the account
 default ones.

 One thing I do to make sure if a folder is using the account defaults,
 or not, is to include the following line as the last line of my account
 templates:

 %COMMENT=This is Account default%COMMENT=

 It doesn't do anything when you use this template to write a message
 because it first sets Comment to a text string but the it clears it. So,
 if I see this line in a folder template I know it is the default one.
 Obviously, when I do manually set or change a folder template, I delete
 this list.


Excellent! Thanks, I'll use this trick, that will help me a great
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Copying messages to another folder loses Parked status

2005-06-02 Thread Chris Wilson
Hello tbbeta,

  I have changed ISP so am moving large numbers of messages around. If I
expand all threads in a folder, select all messages, and go to right
click, Move to Folder, select a folder in another account and move them
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Re[2]: Copying messages to another folder loses Parked status

2005-06-02 Thread Chris Wilson
Hello Feli,

Thursday, June 2, 2005, 11:19:41 AM, you wrote:

 Hello Chris,

 On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:49:20 +0100GMT Chris Wilson wrote:

CW If I expand all threads in a folder, select all messages, and go to
CW right click, Move to Folder, select a folder in another account and
CW move them they have lost their previously parked status.

 And this is a correct behaviour. You cannot move parked messages,
 because the parking flag prevents deleting. You have to copy the
 messages to the new folder (they keep the flag) and delete the originals
 afterwards.


I think I see logic in how Ritlabs did this, but it's a Royal PITA when
moving large blocks of messages between accounts! Maybe an option to
have the alternative behaviour of moved messages re-inheriting their
parked status would be good?

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Re[2]: Copying messages to another folder loses Parked status

2005-06-02 Thread Chris Wilson
Hello Ian,

Thursday, June 2, 2005, 11:56:18 AM, you wrote:

 Chris,

 On Thursday, June 2, 2005, 7:49:20 PM, you (Chris Wilson) wrote:

CW Hello tbbeta,

CW   I have changed ISP so am moving large numbers of messages around. If I
CW expand all threads in a folder, select all messages, and go to right
CW click, Move to Folder, select a folder in another account and move them
CW they have lost their previously parked status.

 This is how it works. I reported this many many versions ago.

 What I now do is have a colour group I set for parked messages so that
 when/if moved they can be identified and re-parked.

That sounds a good work around! Thanks for sharing.


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No message loaded bug still present, help!

2005-05-31 Thread Chris Wilson

Can anyone help with this bug that has been present for me during ALL
the 3.5 betas and the RC. I run a 3 pane window with message pre
viewing. If I double click on a message though it fails to open in a
full window, instead an EMPTY window is launched with No Message Loaded
shown. the same thing happens if I use the Open menu option. The only
way it works properly is if I de-select my folder view mode and select No
View Mode instead.

The view mode that causes the problem is shown in the attachment.
Thanks, really struggling to understand this one.

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Re: No message loaded bug still present, help!

2005-05-31 Thread Chris Wilson
Tuesday, May 31, 2005, 9:12:17 AM, you wrote:


 Hi Chris

 On Tuesday, May 31, 2005 9:27:11 AM you wrote:

 Can anyone help with this bug that has been present for me during ALL
 the 3.5 betas and the RC. I run a 3 pane window with message pre
 viewing. If I double click on a message though it fails to open in a
 full window, instead an EMPTY window is launched with No Message Loaded
 shown. the same thing happens if I use the Open menu option. The only
 way it works properly is if I de-select my folder view mode and select No
 View Mode instead.

 Sorry can't confirm - over here it works normally. If you have done
 the only way it works - did you enable or disable the View - Show
 message list in the message view window?

 The view mode that causes the problem is shown in the attachment.
 Thanks, really struggling to understand this one.

 I entered such a view mode - works ok over here - well it takes time
 until the message is opened - I have about 23'000 message in this
 folder.


Done some more experimenting. The offending view mode has a filter set
to show ONLY messages that are NOT read. I am wondering if the time
element in opening the full view pane is allowing the message to be
marked as read? Disabling this single filter to a state of no filters
being present, but with all the same same view mode attributes still
being present allows the full window to open correctly with the message
text shown. But that isn't what I want... ;(

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Re: No message loaded bug still present, help!

2005-05-31 Thread Chris Wilson
Tuesday, May 31, 2005, 11:27:53 AM, you wrote:


 Hello Chris,

 I am wondering if the time element in opening the full view pane is
 allowing the message to be marked as read?

 Why don't you (at least for a test) go to Account/Properties/Options and
 deselect the Mark the message as read when it is read for... and
 manually mark the messages as read when _you_ (and not TB) decide you
 have read it?


Good idea! Tried this and the main reading window now opens correctly,
even with show only messages NOT read selected. Not quite sure where we
go from here though :) I would still like messages to be marked
automatically as read, with the option of a double click opening it in a
main window if I so desire. I'll play with the time settings for a
message to be marked read, although I feel an open in a pre view pane
message should still be openable in the main window with a double click
whilst that message retains focus in the threads list.

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Re: No message loaded bug still present, help!

2005-05-31 Thread Chris Wilson
Tuesday, May 31, 2005, 11:53:01 AM, you wrote:


 Tuesday, May 31, 2005, 11:27:53 AM, you wrote:


 Hello Chris,

 I am wondering if the time element in opening the full view pane is
 allowing the message to be marked as read?

 Why don't you (at least for a test) go to Account/Properties/Options and
 deselect the Mark the message as read when it is read for... and
 manually mark the messages as read when _you_ (and not TB) decide you
 have read it?


 Good idea! Tried this and the main reading window now opens correctly,
 even with show only messages NOT read selected. Not quite sure where we
 go from here though :) I would still like messages to be marked
 automatically as read, with the option of a double click opening it in a
 main window if I so desire. I'll play with the time settings for a
 message to be marked read, although I feel an open in a pre view pane
 message should still be openable in the main window with a double click
 whilst that message retains focus in the threads list.

 Thanks.



It's a time thing! If I set mark read after say 4 seconds I have 4
seconds to launch a full view window, slower than that an it opens with
No message loaded showing. I consider that a bug, whilst focus remains
on that message it should still be openable in the main window with a
double click or Open, in fact this should be possible whether the
message is read or unread, surely?


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Re: [Usability] The most un-obvious things

2005-05-30 Thread Chris Wilson
Monday, May 30, 2005, 12:06:30 AM, you wrote:


 Hello All, 

   We'd  like  to  hear  your opinions about most un-obvious things you
   ever encountered using TB!

   In example:
   - switching to HTML viewer and show/hide text part
   - creating HTML messages (Editor/Options/Message format/HTML)
   - ...describe your problem here...

   Suggestions how this things should be done are welcome :-)


The whole View Modes set up needs a re write.

#

Utilities - Insert - Quick Template

Insert Quick Template

Same name totally different functions.






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3.5.0.16 now allows total removal of all toolbars

2005-05-25 Thread Chris Wilson

3.5.0.16 now allows removal of ALL toolbars just by de-selecting them.
Nothing earth shattering, but nice not to have to go into the
customizer. Thanks. Seems to be working OK for my usage. :)

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Can anyone get an icon free toolbar in 3.5?

2005-05-18 Thread Chris Wilson

I am still unable to delete all icons in the main window of 3.5.
Whichever toolbar I try to delete LAST just won't go. is there another
approach to deleting them other than right click, de-select which
toolbar you want rid of, and hope?

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Re: Can anyone get an icon free toolbar in 3.5?

2005-05-18 Thread Chris Wilson
Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 5:33:31 PM, you wrote:


 Hello Chris,

 I am still unable to delete all icons in the main window of 3.5.
 Whichever toolbar I try to delete LAST just won't go. is there another
 approach to deleting them other than right click, de-select which
 toolbar you want rid of, and hope?

 Undock whichever is your 'last' toolbar and close it from the X corner.


That worked, many thanks. Do you think that you should be able to delete
the last toolbar in the menu though? I can't see why it would be
DESIGNED to not delete the last one conventionally.


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Re: SRC8 Still impossible to remove all icons

2005-05-13 Thread Chris Wilson
Friday, May 13, 2005, 4:20:31 PM, you wrote:


 Hello Chris Wilson  everyone else,

 on 13-Mai-2005 at 00:02 you (Chris Wilson) wrote:

 Whichever icon set at the top of the main window is the last to have a 
 removal
 attempt made to it stays put, and can't be deleted still.

 I'm not getting it, I think. :-) Why would you want to remove all icons
 when you can simply remove the entire toolbar?

 This is what I mean, I can't remove the last toolbar, whatever the last
 one is in the order I remove them in.

 I meant removing the toolbar by simply clicking menu View and unticking
 all/any entries in the Toolbar submenu...


This fails to remove all toolbars, as well. The last one to be
un-ticked fails to respond.


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Still getting No message loaded

2005-05-12 Thread Chris Wilson

When double clicking a message in the pre view window, it fails to
launch a stand alone window with any text in it save the error cited.

Minor: Utilities : Insert : Cooke (SP!) Who is Cooke? :)

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RC8 Utilities : Insert : Cooke (SP!) Who is Cooke?

2005-05-12 Thread Chris Wilson

As Subject

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Re: Still getting No message loaded

2005-05-12 Thread Chris Wilson
Thursday, May 12, 2005, 10:33:14 AM, you wrote:


 Hello Chris,

 When double clicking a message in the pre view window, it fails to
 launch a stand alone window with any text in it save the error cited.

 Cannot confirm.


It's View Mode dependent. Would post offending mode if I knew how. It
works OK with No View Mode selected.


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SRC8 Still impossible to remove all icons

2005-05-12 Thread Chris Wilson

Whichever icon set at the top of the main window is the last to have a removal
attempt made to it stays put, and can't be deleted still.

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Re: Opening attachment from Editor is impossible in RC8

2005-05-12 Thread Chris Wilson
Thursday, May 12, 2005, 11:17:31 AM, you wrote:


 Hello Marek,

 I have added attachment to MicroEd and when dowblclicked to it,
 nothing happened. When I used right mouse button, I see no Open item.

 Confirmed.


And here too.


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Re: Still getting No message loaded

2005-05-12 Thread Chris Wilson
Thursday, May 12, 2005, 11:44:15 AM, you wrote:


 Hello Chris,

 It's View Mode dependent. Would post offending mode if I knew how. It
 works OK with No View Mode selected.
 
 Well, you can open the View Mode Setup dialog and describe it the best
 way you can the settings in it.

 Here's a screenshot of the offending settings

 I have set up a view mode as close to yours as possible and still can't
 confirm the problem you have.

 Now, why do I say that my view mode is as close to yours as possible?
 Look at the the 2 PNGs attached:

 In your view mode the tick box under 'Sort by' says Ascending order
 while in mine it says Descending order. How can this be?  Shouldn't
 this be the same for everyone?


How odd


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Re: RC8 Utilities : Insert : Cooke (SP!) Who is Cooke?

2005-05-12 Thread Chris Wilson
Thursday, May 12, 2005, 2:09:03 PM, you wrote:


 Hello Chris!

 On Thursday, May 12, 2005, 4:03 AM, you wrote:

 As Subject

 I have just reported this spelling error (typo) on BT. URL:

 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4622


Thank you Mary.


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Re: Forever Exception at 80000003

2005-05-12 Thread Chris Wilson
Thursday, May 12, 2005, 3:18:59 PM, you wrote:




 Hello Beta-Bats,

 Whenever I start up TB! with one of the RC's, I get the above AV.

 Is there a file I have to delete/change/rename?

Deleting tbuser.def cured a lot of AV's for me, it creates a new one
automatically. Helped me, but perhaps rename it to something
(tbuser.defold perhaps, rather than a total delete, first) so you can
reinstate it if something nasty happens, not that much worse can occur
than being unable to even start it... ;)




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Re: SRC8 Still impossible to remove all icons

2005-05-12 Thread Chris Wilson
Thursday, May 12, 2005, 5:00:09 PM, you wrote:


 Hello Chris Wilson  everyone else,

 on 12-Mai-2005 at 11:58 you (Chris Wilson) wrote:

 Whichever icon set at the top of the main window is the last to have a 
 removal
 attempt made to it stays put, and can't be deleted still.

 I'm not getting it, I think. :-) Why would you want to remove all icons
 when you can simply remove the entire toolbar?


This is what I mean, I can't remove the last toolbar, whatever the last
one is in the order I remove them in.


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tbuser.def and Search toolbar

2005-05-09 Thread Chris Wilson

I and others had problems deleting toolbars, particularly the Search
one. I have found that if I delete tbuser.def and re start TB! it is
whichever toolbar I try to delete *LAST* that refuses to be deleted.
I can delete the Search one so long as it isn't the last to be deleted,
HTH.

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Still getting a No message loaded error.

2005-05-06 Thread Chris Wilson

Double clicking a message in the message list, and which is shown
correctly in the preview pane, fails to launch the message full screen
with certain view modes still. Pic enclosed.

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Re: 3.5RC4 can't disable Quick Search Toolbar

2005-05-06 Thread Chris Wilson
Friday, May 6, 2005, 10:59:27 AM, you wrote:


 Hallo Roelof,

 On Fri, 6 May 2005 11:51:56 +0200GMT (6-5-2005, 11:51 +0200, where I
 live), you wrote:

RO   As I'm using TB without toolbars I generally disable them. In RC4 I
RO   cannot disable the Quick Search Toolbar, I was able to do so in RC2
RO   and previous.

 I need to correct this, I can disable two out of three toolbars from
 the main screen, when I end with the Quick Search, I can't delete
 that, but when I end with another one, I can't disable that.


Confirmed here, too.


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Re: Using TAB key to rotate focus

2005-05-06 Thread Chris Wilson
Friday, May 6, 2005, 11:07:45 AM, you wrote:


 I think that it's done this for some time.

 Points to note: If you are using the HTML viewer in the preview
 window, once the focus has moved to that window, TAB moves the focus
 to each hyperlink and only move to the next window once all the links
 have been visited.

 If the focus is in the message window and you delete the only message
 in the folder the focus seems to disappear until you use the mouse to
 magic it back.


It seems to focus on the lowest (physically on the page) hyperlink here, 
ignoring
higher ones.


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Double clicking a mesage in the message pane still launches a blank screen

2005-05-04 Thread Chris Wilson

Still doing this in RC1. Once in the blank screen using the Move to Next
or Previous Unread menu works and the message is shown full screen. As i
work 99% of the time in the split screen mode it rarely bothers me, but
surely a total PITA for many users?

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Re: Double clicking a mesage in the message pane still launches a blank screen

2005-05-04 Thread Chris Wilson
Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 9:55:57 AM, you wrote:



 Still doing this in RC1. Once in the blank screen using the Move to Next
 or Previous Unread menu works and the message is shown full screen. As i
 work 99% of the time in the split screen mode it rarely bothers me, but
 surely a total PITA for many users?


I have just discovered it is entirely dependent on View Mode. Generic
view mode gives no problems, but the one I usually use gives No message
loaded error with blank screen. Will citing the offending view mode
help? How do i do that?


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Re: Double clicking a mesage in the message pane still launches a blank screen

2005-05-04 Thread Chris Wilson
Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 5:46:15 PM, you wrote:


 Hello Chris Wilson  everyone else,

 on 04-Mai-2005 at 10:55 you (Chris Wilson) wrote:

 Still doing this in RC1. Once in the blank screen using the Move to Next
 or Previous Unread menu works and the message is shown full screen. As i
 work 99% of the time in the split screen mode it rarely bothers me, but
 surely a total PITA for many users?

 In the message pane? Where do you double click? I can click where I want,
 but no blank screen opens.


Three pane window, folders, messages and the bottom full width one is
where I normally read the contents of the message (pre view pane).
Double clicking the message SHOULD open it in a full viewing window, but
with certain view modes it opens the pane, but with the message No
Message Loaded shown. With No View Mode set as the view mode for a
folder it works fine, at least 2 other view modes and the message is not
displayed with a double click. Basically one view mode that causes the
problem is show:

Created, From, Subject, Attachments and Parking all ticked and Sort by
Created in Ascending Order, with Expand All Threads ticked too. I am
sure it's View Mode specific.


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Re: Double clicking a mesage in the message pane still launches a blank screen

2005-05-04 Thread Chris Wilson
Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 6:37:37 PM, you wrote:


 Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 5:46:15 PM, you wrote:


 Hello Chris Wilson  everyone else,

 on 04-Mai-2005 at 10:55 you (Chris Wilson) wrote:

 Still doing this in RC1. Once in the blank screen using the Move to Next
 or Previous Unread menu works and the message is shown full screen. As i
 work 99% of the time in the split screen mode it rarely bothers me, but
 surely a total PITA for many users?

 In the message pane? Where do you double click? I can click where I want,
 but no blank screen opens.


 Three pane window, folders, messages and the bottom full width one is
 where I normally read the contents of the message (pre view pane).
 Double clicking the message SHOULD open it in a full viewing window, but
 with certain view modes it opens the pane, but with the message No
 Message Loaded shown. With No View Mode set as the view mode for a
 folder it works fine, at least 2 other view modes and the message is not
 displayed with a double click. Basically one view mode that causes the
 problem is show:

 Created, From, Subject, Attachments and Parking all ticked and Sort by
 Created in Ascending Order, with Expand All Threads ticked too. I am
 sure it's View Mode specific.



Still the same problem with RC2


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-05-03 Thread Chris Wilson
Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 8:15:59 AM, you wrote:


 Hello 9Val,

   A reminder of what 9Val on TBBETA typed on:
   29 April 2005 at 22:48:33 GMT +0200

9 On  the  way,  it  was not enough stable to be included. Don't see any
9 sence to get a lot of AVs reports which are known for us

  But you still release an RC version that is still crawling alive with bugs
  that are also known to you?

  Forgive my ignorance but shouldn't a release candidate be devoid of
  virtually all known bugs before you release it?

  As much as I love TB I just can't understand the reasoning or rational of
  RITLABS in sending out new versions that are still full of known bugs,
  especially one that they consider ready for public release.

  I personally don't think this series is anywhere remotely close to being
  releasable, the list of known bugs is still a long as a Donky's Doo Dah.



In total agreement Tony. I am in the race engineering business, a
company has rushed into releasing an expensive new race car over here
with a new engine and transmission. They are suffering immediate
problems with engine and transmission and their credibility has suffered
serious harm, IMO. I really don't think 3.5 is anywhere near what a
paying end user should be expected to have as release version yet.


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Re: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems

2005-05-03 Thread Chris Wilson
Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 8:51:52 AM, you wrote:


 Hello Peter,

   A reminder of what Peter Ouwehand on TBBETA typed on:
   30 April 2005 at 01:55:21 GMT +0200

PO Do you use settings like compress all folders on exit? Can be time
PO consuming.

  Not all night! I've closed Windows down when gong to bed, came back in the
  morning and it's still not closed down... Unless I close TB first that is.

  It seems to be getting better, TB now closes, goes through all the clean
  up process but it still won't allow Windows to close unless TB is closed
  separately.


I had this, a full maintenance operation on all folders found 2 with
errors, after this it behaved itself properly again.



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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-05-03 Thread Chris Wilson
Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 11:42:54 AM, you wrote:


 Hi Tony,  

TB  If you know these will cause problems why not fix them *before* releasing
TB  the actual program?

 Because  they  are  on  *your* side in configuration files. There have
 some changes in format.


is the release version going to do a proper clean up and *AUTOMATICALLY*
delete any config files iteither does not need, or are likely to cause
trouble, hopefully backing them up somewhere if they might have user
critical content? I hope the end user isn't expected to clean up FOR
TB!!


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Two Utility menus for Quick templates, why?

2005-05-03 Thread Chris Wilson

Insert : Quick Template

and

Insert Quick Template

I don't understand why two options with the same name but totally
different functionality exist?

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