Re: 4.0.24.9

2008-05-13 Thread vitalie vrabie
Stefan Tanurkov wrote: MM [!] Preview in quick templates This actually should be read as template output preview in QT editor :-) see pre-revprop-change.tmpl rulez forever -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com Current

Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vilius Šumskas wrote: That explains everything. not really. from how i remember the guys in older times, they were the team that doesn't quite need management. -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com Current beta is 4.0.24.9

Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick wrote: They are constantly fixing things but in one area of the program at a time, which isn't always MY personal choice for fixes and wishes but they ARE working and making progress. sure they are fixing. but this IMAP counters topic comes up again and again. sort of like people want

Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick wrote: I am a bit curious. What's the point of this? i think, point is, to make clear once and for good who exactly need management at Ritlabs. it ain't ritlabs that needs it. rather, the users need it. and, management being a SERVICE, question is - who is ready to pay for it? --

Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread vitalie vrabie
Bob Riley wrote: I don't think that quick, smart-a__ criticisms of Rit Labs help anyone. absolutely! out of all these people that are constantly nagging to one deficiency or another, who is really ready to work for ritlabs and provide a fix? not as a permanent job, cuz the software is not sold

Re: OT: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread vitalie vrabie
Marck D Pearlstone wrote: This thread is moving into the Off-Topic realm. Please continue this on TBOT (this message has been CC'd to the TBOT list to maintain threading.) it'll die there without raising the desired awareness. -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com

Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-13 Thread vitalie vrabie
Goncalo Farias wrote: The programmers at RitLabs are very sensitive people and could reply something like this (mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) to you. being sensitive is totally different from being selfish. and the tagline of that mid explains it pretty well. -- Signed, Vitalie.

Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-12 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rimvydas Zilinskas wrote: I think that Ritlab guys know very well where are the problems. Even their support admitted this. their support has absolutely no word over development. their programmers completely ignore what support says (you need it, you do it), then leave the company for a better

Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-12 Thread vitalie vrabie
vitalie vrabie wrote: I think that Ritlab guys know very well where are the problems. Even their support admitted this. their support has absolutely no word over development. their programmers completely ignore what support says (you need it, you do it), then leave the company for a better

Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-12 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rimvydas Zilinskas wrote: Do not understand this as a complaint. Its only strong wish:) I want to move completely from thunderbird. And I'm The Bat! user since 1.xx times so I know this client very well and like it so much. But this inaccuracy drives me mad:( that means you guys deserve

Re: The Bat! and messages count on IMAP folders

2008-05-12 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vilius Šumskas wrote: I'm wondering where their management is looking? yikes! what's that? Do they even have any? i concur to this question. -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com Current beta is 4.0.24.8 | 'Using TBBETA'

анекдот

2008-05-09 Thread vitalie vrabie
hi. заходит как-то Стефан Танурков в класс тббета: - дети, уот из зе бест емеил клаент? дети (хором): - зее бееет! Стефан (зычным голосом, из тундерберда): - авотх%й. -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com Current beta is

test

2008-05-05 Thread vitalie vrabie
hi. test. please ignore. -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com Current beta is 4.0.24.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Issues with threaded view

2007-08-26 Thread vitalie vrabie
Indie_Dev wrote: Attached is what my views dialog looks like. Notice the gaps? Is that normal? wow! nice tits! thanks for the shot! and what's wrong with the gap between them? -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com Current

Re: Issues with threaded view

2007-08-26 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: Vitalie - if the mods won't tell you I will. We were all asked to quit the bickering You seem to want to keep it going PLEASE STOP - the rest of us have okay, okay. was just having some fun. as of the problem, if taken seriously - looks like data corruption. --

Re: [SOT] Question about 'Monitor Issue' in BT reports

2007-08-25 Thread vitalie vrabie
MAU wrote: Thank you Marek, I wasn't aware of that. I thought that selecting 'Monitor Issue' was always needed, even if I was reporter or I had added a note. depends on your profile settings. also please take into account that different versions of mantis did have different defaults. --

Re: Mod: Personal Attack

2007-08-25 Thread vitalie vrabie
Jim Brown wrote: His concern after being direct mailed anonymously offlist by someone presenting info that would make the most sense to be from someone privy to this list is warranted... and that type of behavior, in my opinion is just wrong, and there's nothing wrong with

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-24 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: Well, crime is here whethever or not we like it, global warming is here whethever not we like it, kids die in africa whethever or not we like it. Should we all stop caring about? Yes, these are bigger problems than HTML in every email, but think how many $ and energy you

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-24 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: Can't argue with logic like that very easily arguable. but pointless. It is not logic at all. That is why I can't argue with it. I respect your opinion but your points are only that; opinion not facts nor even a logical statement. If you can't separate the

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-24 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: The original author although frankly I am so sick of the fighting ... Vitalie, if I misquoted you or answered you in error, I apologize. like russians say - doesn't worth it; i've already spitted on your back. :) -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-24 Thread vitalie vrabie
Indie_Dev wrote: OK, I've files reports for every issue and quirk I've encountered and which need looking at if the devs choose to do so. 0006451...0006444 don't see that one about your tits compared to your wife's. please add. and don't forget the screenshots! -- Signed, Vitalie.

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-24 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: enemies everyehere! shoot 'em all!!! That's right. WHen reason and logic escape you, resort to name calling then, what makes you different from your opponent? -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com

Re: Resource Leak

2007-08-23 Thread vitalie vrabie
Goncalo Farias wrote: I have opened BT bug report https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6442 regarding this issue! fine. you've filed it. now fire it up (ask for some gasoline from some people around here). nya-nya-nya, thebutt goes titsup when i start it... hence seems to be a female...

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-23 Thread vitalie vrabie
Indie_Dev wrote: you just deaf or what? Here we go again with the personal attacks. You pack guys must really have fun in your group hug sessions. you said you don't take personally any of this fly attractant. make sure they're compliant, then fire up a bugreport with a couple of

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: If you still disagree reformat your drive and install OS/2. After all Bill Gates himself said it was the best operating system. ...the message we have here is the strong belief that OS/2 is the platform for the 90s. -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com

Re: Suppressing the message.html file

2007-08-23 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: If you still disagree reformat your drive and install OS/2. After all Bill Gates himself said it was the best operating system. ...the message we have here is the strong belief that OS/2 is the platform for the 90s. I think he said that in the late 80s

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
Paul Van Noord wrote: Honey attracts more flies than vinegar. and shit attracts even more than honey. cuz it smells stronger. lol. -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
Roelof Otten wrote: For me it's quite logical. When my aunt goes on holiday to Germany and sends me postcard (she did), I don't care when the card has been sent, because I haven't seen it. I don't care when it's been delivered into my mailbox, as I haven't seen it yet. I do care when I collect

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
Hendrik Oesterlin wrote: OK, I think I got your point of view in fact, there are some other considerations, which none of you two seems to figure out. the Date: field, as per the respective RFC, has a well-defined format. however, a lot of mail senders (mostly those web-based, which are

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: I am going to have to paddle ALL your a**es Moderator, what I meant was DONKEYS! I was going to beat their DONKEYS as it is illegal in some countries to beat children. That is a proper use of the word (ROTFLMAO) :-D not as long as he/she/it stubbornly thinks

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
Indie_Dev wrote: Life's too short. huh? too short to figure out that Date: has its STRICT formatting rules?! -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
Indie_Dev wrote: Every email program has the subject, sender, recipient, data, size and then you have additional stuff like attachments and whatnot. datA? geez, man, your life is WAY too short! LOL. -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
Indie_Dev wrote: the Date: field, as per the respective RFC, has a well-defined format. ..and that is what I've been saying all along. If TB! stuck to the RFC standards - like _all_ other email programs, I won't have to be looking emails from 1996 in a default filter for yesterday. Its

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
Indie_Dev wrote: To me, $35 is nothing. I can't even fill up my vehicle's gas tank on that. $35 doesn't worth enough gasoline to fill up a tank, so you've decided to fill your stomach instead? :) -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
Indie_Dev wrote: So, by your submission, because TV was invented way before I was born, I can't complain about not getting channel 2 on the UHF band as opposed to VHF? Right. wrong. as opposed to UHF and VHF, back in 1996 there was no other standard except RFC822 that would allow Date: be

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
Indie_Dev wrote: I know you know that I meant 'date' is that all you know that i know? You know, that I know, that you know that I meant 'date' you don't know that i didn't know that you didn't know how to properly use a keyboard. I'm quite certain that once you knew that I knew that

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
Indie_Dev wrote: LMAO *splutter* *gag* *choke* *splutter* OK, I didn't see that coming. Thats the last time I read email on this list with liquid in my mouth. yeah... liquid... i toldya to not drink gasoline, didn't i? -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
Indie_Dev wrote: OK, lets try this again. i knew you'll like it. Those _same_ emails imported into the following WORK JUST FINE and with NONE of this silliness that we're so hotly debating. Outlook Outlook Express Windows Mail Windows Live Mail Windows Live Mail Desktop Eudora

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
Richard Wakeford wrote: Easy enough to do. Make a filter getting rid of all messages from or to Indie_Dev and it works a treat. I did it for a while but then there were no messages to read so scrubbed it and was enjoying sitting here reading the banter! my suspicion is that's Vili. he

Re: Interface Inconsistencies

2007-08-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
Richard Wakeford wrote: Then maybe you should stop using TB!, go use one of the other oh so perfect mail programmes that you use and stop winding so many people up. It seems that you haven't started to even scratch the endless possibilities of this programme to make it do what you want.

Re: VCF file association to TB!

2007-08-18 Thread vitalie vrabie
Feli Wilcke wrote: If TB is your main or only MUA, you should allow this association. like if MUAs are the only ones that need VCF. how naive! ;) -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com Current beta is 3.99.16 | 'Using

Re: Thanks

2007-08-14 Thread vitalie vrabie
9Val wrote: SC And let us know if you need beta testers. Hehe, I hope I will have no need in beta testers since want to leave programming :) have you really lost the hope that there are software companies where not only bosses can afford a personal life? -- Signed, Vitalie.

Re: Thanks

2007-08-13 Thread vitalie vrabie
9Val wrote: Hello All, I'm not working on TB! for a long time and now I'm leaving RitLabs at all. right today? on 13th? geez, at least ain't friday... :) -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com Current beta is

Re: 3.99.12 BETA)

2007-08-09 Thread vitalie vrabie
Maxim Masiutin wrote: I confirm this, with particular settings, I will fix this. Until now, I will delete the RAR file. just the same ass you did with https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id= ? have a look a the comments' dates. the bug reported jan 6. two not confirmed come on jan 8.

Re: Rogues

2007-08-08 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: For the first time I had to go back a version as 10 was so buggy as to be unusable. I do not say that lightly. From .10 to .11 was a short cycle but most are considerably longer. Should we in effect go without mail? I don't think so :) LOL. just as when i was in

Re: Sending emails with GMail's SMTP, was: Re[2]: Dispatch messages on server...

2007-07-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: - login to your GMail account - got to Settings, select the Accounts tab - add all of your email address here - for each added account GMail will send a verification number to that address, that you have to type in the next screen, this is how they verify that address is yours

Re: Sending emails with GMail's SMTP, was: Re[2]: Dispatch messages on server...

2007-07-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
vitalie vrabie wrote: Vili wrote: - login to your GMail account - got to Settings, select the Accounts tab - add all of your email address here - for each added account GMail will send a verification number to that address, that you have to type in the next screen, this is how

Re: Sending emails with GMail's SMTP, was: Re[2]: Dispatch messages on server...

2007-07-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: adding addresses of another SPF-aware email service to gmail won't help you with sending those messages via gmail: it just cannot magically add its SMTP srv addrs to the SPF-related DNS records of somebody else's domain, no matter how powerful their web iface is. I

Re: Dispatch messages on server...

2007-07-20 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: So when you use GMail's SMTP, it replaces the From address, that's what you are saying, right? I dont think, it should do that... oh yes it should. cuz yer mail goes FROM that account. want replies to a different place? good. e-mail has a nice REPLY-TO feature for you to

Re: Dispatch messages on server...

2007-07-20 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: Your move. you want something as 'flexible' as a whore and as trustworthy as a wife ...at the same time. LOL. i think SPF is another e-mail feature for you to discover, my dear hungarian buddy... -- Signed, Vitalie. http://vv.labordei.com

Re: Dispatch messages on server...

2007-07-20 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: I use a secure Hungarian SMTP server to send ALL of my emails, except the GMail. And that does not replace the From field, it just does what it has to do: auth tells it that I am a legitimate user of their SMTP service, and send my email with the FROM field I specified. This

Re: Dispatch messages on server...

2007-07-20 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: I use a secure Hungarian SMTP server to send ALL of my emails, except the GMail. And that does not replace the From field, it just does what it has to do: auth tells it that I am a legitimate user of their SMTP service, and send my email with the FROM field I specified. This

Re: Dispatch messages on server...

2007-07-20 Thread vitalie vrabie
vitalie vrabie wrote: What is SPF? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_Framework and, since you're so lazy at doing the homework, here's one more: http://www.openspf.org/FAQ particularly, what is SPF and why is it complicating the life to some hungarian supposed

Re: Dispatch messages on server...

2007-07-20 Thread vitalie vrabie
vitalie vrabie wrote: particularly, what is SPF and why is it complicating the life to some hungarian supposed-to-be-secure servers ;) and to resume it quickly and get back to your initial point (life ain't chess and i don't quite have time to wait for your understanding of each and every

Re: Weird sorting office behaviour

2007-07-09 Thread vitalie vrabie
Richard Wakeford wrote: Yes, I even wrote a message in that discussion too but this time it's too random to be view problem (I think!). I'll keep an eye on it and see if I can find a reason for it happening. exceuse my intervention, but... if a program has some unique feature, but very few

Re: Weird sorting office behaviour

2007-07-09 Thread vitalie vrabie
Richard Wakeford wrote: vv exceuse my intervention, but... vv if a program has some unique feature, but very few people really use it, vv is it a selling point or not? Sorry but you've completely lost me there. not at all. We were talking about the sorting office and not being able to copy

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-10 Thread vitalie vrabie
Thomas Fernandez wrote: so, be a RealMan™ when this FemaleLogic® animal tells ya you CANNOT do any transfers with an expired certificate. :) Those who say cannot do should step aside for those who just do: You can indeed do transfers with an expired cert, unless the email software says

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-07 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: In my house *** I *** am the captain of the ship sure. and it's YOUR duty to navigate around expired certificates and other sort of underwater rocks. ... but I know who the admiral is :)) mmm... Ritlabs? or Mother Nature, that 'stated' that rocks could deadly

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-07 Thread vitalie vrabie
George M. Menegakis wrote: Real men always have the last word.. Yes, dear! :-) exactly. so, be a RealMan™ when this FemaleLogic® animal tells ya you CANNOT do any transfers with an expired certificate. :) ...or don't fear the expenses of the divorce, considering the benefits of

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-06 Thread vitalie vrabie
Dwight A Corrin wrote: Ritlabs is of the opinion that that it is in your best interest if they deny you the option of accepting an expired certificate. They have a strong paternalistic streak. and further on with psychology, it means they're completely ruled by their wives at home? --

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-03 Thread vitalie vrabie
Jim Brown wrote: I can see RitLabs Point... BUT after 30+ years of Eng and support experience I'd have to second the suggestion that Alerting a User is Imperative... Denying a (knowledgeable) user after the Alert is excessive and Not in the best interest of the user OR product :(

Re: The Bat! 3.99.8 SSL Cert. Questions

2007-06-03 Thread vitalie vrabie
Thomas Fernandez wrote: vv AFAIR, Max commented on this already. if your user is qualified indeed, vv he/she'd put something like stunnel. Does Max want to call each sysad and remind him to please update his cert, as otherwise TB!-users are unable to do their mailing? why don't you

Re: When to expect first betas of v4 ?

2007-05-29 Thread vitalie vrabie
Eugene Gladchenko wrote: GMM We approaching v4 (current version is 3.99.7). So assume that v4 is nearby. Why do you think there can't be 100 after 99? ;) was discussed here already. more likely, as how numbers work (you noticed the dots, didn't you?), it'll tend to .99(9) than to .100 ;)

Re: Wish: Adding contact's photo to MailTicker

2007-05-22 Thread vitalie vrabie
Cricket wrote: There is a good idea imbedded in there ... If cam is available and option is selected, have a quick pic taken/attached to email when you hit send. Those 3 A.M. emails are surely going to scare someone. :-) i thought we discuss ideas, not details. the need for dialogs like

Re: Wish: Adding contact's photo to MailTicker

2007-05-21 Thread vitalie vrabie
Marek Mikus wrote: anybody is interested in wish to display contact's photo to MailTicker? :-) https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6368 aha. sure. and the picture should be taken at the moment when the message was sent (or queued for sending). -- Signed, Vitalie.

Re: Wish: Adding contact's photo to MailTicker

2007-05-21 Thread vitalie vrabie
Marek Mikus wrote: I am talking about images added to AddressBook or stored in IMAGES folder, same image displayed in Message Header Pane. oh, sure. and the message header pane should display fresh images too. of course, falling back to what you said in case the contact didn't care to have

Re: Voyager - a break through moment.

2007-05-21 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: I think, it was not the FAT/NTFS change. It was the fact that when you reformatted the drive, you inherently defragmented the drive. obviously, you're too busy enjoying conventional hard drives in an usb enclosure, so, at the moment, you simply can't figure out that not all usb

Re: Voyager - a break through moment.

2007-05-21 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: A second factor that really improved my speed was defragmenting my Voyager drive. I never thought to do this and **wow** was it fragmented! and? so what? was the drive formatted with NTFS or FAT? unlike FAT, fragmented NTFS files do take extra structures to be

Re: Voyager - a break through moment.

2007-05-21 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: - if you are pissed off of me because I did not accept the invitation to your professional network, I am sorry, I just dont have the time for any extra online activity beside the 4 kids, my job and my business. waitaminute. you have 4 kids, and you dare calling *me*

Re: When to expect first betas of v4 ?

2007-05-20 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: http://www.forum-clio.com/index.php/topic,449.0.PHOTOS_Clio_unique_au_monde_com_de_Serge_33.html Nice car ... yours? :)) nope. Gleason's, as far as i can tell. i prefer more practical approaches. -- Signed, Vitalie.

Re: When to expect first betas of v4 ?

2007-05-20 Thread vitalie vrabie
Gleason Pace wrote: What sells software and how is that different from what long term users want? fitness for a particular purpose. as simple as that. and not necessarily different from what long-term users want. -- Signed, Vitalie.

Re: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-19 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vilius Šumskas wrote: argh. wasn't it you who tried to brainwash Sierra against that prove-to-be-over-16 quiz in its Leisure Suit Larry game, back in those CGA days? AHAHAHA. Good one :) You made my day. Leisure Suit Larry rocked! errata. IIRC, it's proof-to-be-18+, not over 16;

Re: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-19 Thread vitalie vrabie
Thomas Fernandez wrote: Do you have a website so we can read this dialog? Should be fun. ;-) what for? wanna pass the link to your friends, or what? here it is: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/msg84624.html vv after all… have a nice weekend to you too! Same to

Re: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-19 Thread vitalie vrabie
Thomas Fernandez wrote: I don't play games, so I don't know what this is about. by the way, you'd better do. it's a far less harmful way to explore the wisdoms of life, than to mess up with security/encryption and sensitive data. -- Signed, Vitalie.

Re: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-19 Thread vitalie vrabie
Thomas Fernandez wrote: vv errata. IIRC, it's proof-to-be-18+, not over 16; cuz that kid got vv famous for heavily objecting against the question how old is your mom? vv with the answer 36 or more as the correct one. same argumentation vv style was presented: guys, who the hell are you to ask

Re: IMAP - Cannot access account

2007-05-19 Thread vitalie vrabie
Stuart Cuddy wrote: Now it seems if I try to halt the connection or do anything with that account it just freezes TB! and it has to be restarted. Every time I restart the queue is frozen immediately. I have access through the webmail interface, but this seems to be the ultimate

Re: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-19 Thread vitalie vrabie
Thomas Fernandez wrote: vv ah, that one. wasn't quite a dialog. just a story. it was in some paper vv magazine years ago, not sure if it is on the web now. I see. Too bad that we will have to close the OT thread now. I smell fish coming. ;-) what fish? one missed sale (a refund to an

Re: When to expect first betas of v4 ?

2007-05-19 Thread vitalie vrabie
George M. Menegakis wrote: We approaching v4 (current version is 3.99.7). So assume that v4 is nearby. So the question is, when the first betas are expected? And any tease about new expected features? good point. and before starting to brainstorm new features, please have a look at this:

Re: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-18 Thread vitalie vrabie
Thomas Fernandez wrote: vv treat it as an exam question: what is the difference between security vv and encryption? I don't take exam questions from you, but it has already been answered in the meantime anyway. ;-) vv if you answer correctly, you qualify for such decisions. ;) It's not up

Re: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-17 Thread vitalie vrabie
Gary wrote: v treat it as an exam question: what is the difference between security v and encryption? A. I can log into any POP server that I am a registered user using the standard port 110. I must authenticate to get into the server to get my mail. B. I can log into any POPS server that

Re: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-17 Thread vitalie vrabie
Gary wrote: To put it another way, if I can connect to a server via POP or IMAP, after I authenticate, why will it not let me connect securely, when I can connect normally. It should be my choice, since I can connect anyway. Does that not makes sense? no, it doesn't make sense. since you

one more exam

2007-05-17 Thread vitalie vrabie
Gary, you failed the security-related exam. don't worry. there's yet another one, on marketing. given that TheBat! is called a SECURE e-mail client, and the previous exam gave you an insight on the difference between security and encryption. what, to your opinion, are the right marketing

Re: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-17 Thread vitalie vrabie
vitalie vrabie wrote: by the way, where are you from? i think of moving to that country, if true are your claims that ignorance on essential things does still qualify to make a living on it... addendum (to make my point clear, so it won't look as an offense, because it's actually not): i'm

Re: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-16 Thread vitalie vrabie
Thomas Fernandez wrote: You have really insulted the intelligence of the TB users. If some are stupid enough to click YES, that is *their* problem. Why on earth would you forbid *me* to accept an expired certificate, if I so choose? treat it as an exam question: what is the difference

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-15 Thread vitalie vrabie
Paul Van Noord wrote: Also, using an external hard drive is 2-3 times safer regarding lost data during a power failure simply because of performance. and because of the filesystem too. still nobody mentioned that. and because of the compressed attribute if on NTFS: it first writes as-is,

Re: large font usage problems

2007-05-15 Thread vitalie vrabie
Maxim Masiutin wrote: as a future improvement, please consider configurations with two or more monitors. it would be very handy to have them on ALL monitors. How can I use more than two monitors in Windows Vista? it doesn't matter from the development of application software point

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-15 Thread vitalie vrabie
Doug Higby wrote: Even though my lists settings say to receive a copy of my own messages, they don't appear in the thread. same for me, by the way. -- Signed, Vitalie. Current beta is 3.99.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-15 Thread vitalie vrabie
Perry Nelson wrote: vv same for me, by the way. Both you and Doug are using a Gmail account for your subscription to the list, and that explains the dilemma. That's why I use my Comcast account for this list rather than my customary Gmail account. argh. it's that dupekilling feature of

Re: large font usage problems

2007-05-15 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: Ok, now I get it. Turn down your coffee input or cut back on the sugar :))) You are hyperactive for a while now :)) yikes. didn't intend to outperform ya, Vil'. -- Signed, Vitalie. Current beta is 3.99.06 | 'Using

Re: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-15 Thread vitalie vrabie
Gary wrote: decisions if I want to accept a cert or not. Jumping through hoops to get to an IMAP server, after you used Stunnel a few 1000 times, is just a pain - unnecessary I might add. It is just easier to use another client. ...or another server. after all, will you trust servers with

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-14 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: You must be a journalist to take out 1 sentence and forgot to quote all related stuff to earn some cheap popularity Let me quote those sentences you forgot to mention that I wrote in the same mail: I did not want to trash USB sticks. They good for something. Also,

Re: large font usage problems

2007-05-14 Thread vitalie vrabie
Maxim Masiutin wrote: Are there any unresolved large font usage problems left? yes. please make the AV-related message boxes as large as possible. maybe halfscreen or even larger. so even the developers could see them too, not only the users. as a future improvement, please consider

Re: large font usage problems

2007-05-14 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: it'll be like in movies... What was this? Is there any reason why you are so pissed off nowadays? All of us has bad days... wuzzup, Vil'? don't ya like those inch-tall letters stating SYSTEM FAILURE on all monitors, and blinking synchronized with that buzz-buzz-buzz?

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-12 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: I wrote a long answer. But I deleted it. Why? I dont want to argue. I used stick with optimized for performance and use my HDD. Huge difference. I DID try it. You didnt. End of story for me. completely wrong. tried both and both work okay. of course, assuming you don't

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-12 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: No. I completely understand. And that is my WHOLE point: you have great experience with Voyager if you use a HDD, and not running from a USB stick. If you can. A _completely different_ experience. That is what I tried to say. (Even if you optimize the stick to speed.) Are

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-10 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: you have the exact same reasons with your 'usb-enclosed' HDD. ...maybe even worse, given that write-back for USB flashdrives isn't quite as optimistic as with HDDs (including those 'usb-enclosed'). :)) I dont know this stuff, all I am seeing is that with a USB stick, it

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-09 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: I dont know... I dont _totally_ agree... Even in WinXP, you can optimize a stick for performance, but if writing is delayed and for some reason you have got a power failure... Or I just dont trust MS to let them manage delayed writing :)) you have the exact same

Re: The Bat Crashing when searching deleted messages

2007-04-30 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: This is repeatable and happens whether you have the list open or not When searching deleted messages upon clicking in the search box, the bat crashes and there's also a dialog that says thebat.exe failed the signature verification... any clues on who might corrupt the

Re: HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03

2007-03-05 Thread vitalie vrabie
Alexander S. Kunz wrote: yes, there's a whole lot of potential documentflow-related applications that may perfectly fit onto email-based transport, that go far beyond the imagination of any single individual. Outlook 2007, when installed as a part of the 2007 Office Suite, shows .pps

Re: RSS option

2007-03-04 Thread vitalie vrabie
Ian A. White wrote: HS It would be nice to have a RSS option in The Bat!. Ok, I'm going to jump in here. I have to say that from my point of view, I would like to have The Bat! have all its current features work properly BEFORE anything else is added. will you really feel okay with

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