Re: Expried certificates (was: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.)

2008-02-25 Thread danger
snip now filed as bugtrack item 0006856 -- Best regards, dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Expried certificates (was: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.)

2008-02-24 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Sunday, February 24, 2008, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Thanks for your opinion. I will assume that you will never accept an expired certificate. That's good for you. I have a different opinion. Why do you want to forbid me to do something? Just because you wouldn't want to do it

Re: Expried certificates (was: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.)

2008-02-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:49:47 +0100 GMT (24/02/2008, 18:49 +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: Good morning. You were up late last night, I didn't expect a reply so fast. Thanks. MM once developers accept such opinion, nobody will use correct MM certs then, everybody (including You) will

Re[2]: Expried certificates (was: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.)

2008-02-24 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/24/2008 3:19 PM Hi Thomas, On 2/24/2008 Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF Why are people so vehemently against options, just because they don't TF want to use them? Especially options that other email clients offer. TF Are you trying to save the internet by disallowing this in TB!? Why bother with

Re: Expried certificates (was: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.)

2008-02-24 Thread Rick Grunwald
I am fascinated that you want to complain because TB has the courage to do the right thing instead of being politically correct like all (or most) of the others. It isn't a case of courage but rather usability and allowing people to use the program as they see fit. -- Is the message

Re[2]: Expried certificates (was: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.)

2008-02-24 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/24/2008 3:59 PM Hi Rick, On 2/24/2008 Rick Grunwald wrote: I am fascinated that you want to complain because TB has the courage to do the right thing instead of being politically correct like all (or most) of the others. RG It isn't a case of courage but rather usability and It is

Re: Expried certificates (was: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.)

2008-02-24 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Thomas Fernandez, am Sonntag, 24. Februar 2008 um 13:07 schrieben Sie: Are you trying to save the internet by disallowing this in TB!? I thought this right the moment now. I would support a urgly and red Error-Message with a Confirmation Dialog to User, becaue it is security

Re: Expried certificates (was: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.)

2008-02-24 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Marek Mikus, am Sonntag, 24. Februar 2008 um 12:49 schrieben Sie: once developers accept such opinion, nobody will use correct certs then, everybody (including You) will confirm warning window instead changing certificate, because it is easier. I worked for a middle-range ISP for

Re: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.

2008-02-23 Thread danger
Hello danger, With the bat 4.0.14.4 when I try to send any email the email disappears then returns on the screen and is never sent. Enabling the SNMP logs shows nothing. What about Account log, does it show anything? We are on to it here this is my log 2/23/2008, 14:59:05: SEND -

Re: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.

2008-02-23 Thread MAU
Hello Danger, snipped !2/23/2008, 14:59:06: SEND - TLS handshake failure. Invalid server certificate (This certificate has expired). 2/23/2008, 14:59:06: SEND - connection finished - 0 message(s) sent 2/23/2008, 14:59:06: SEND - Some messages were not sent - check the log for details

Re: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.

2008-02-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Saturday, February 23, 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there a work around for an expired cert? import new one to RootCA AddressBook. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack

Re: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.

2008-02-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:23:09 +0100 GMT (24/02/2008, 04:23 +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: is there a work around for an expired cert? MM import new one to RootCA AddressBook. Old discussion: What if I, as a reponsible adult, want to choose to receive/send the mail even though the

Re: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.

2008-02-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Sunday, February 24, 2008, Thomas Fernandez wrote: MM import new one to RootCA AddressBook. Old discussion: What if I, as a reponsible adult, want to choose to receive/send the mail even though the certificate is expired? how is expiration of certificate related to Your age? If You

Re: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.

2008-02-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 04:59:28 +0100 GMT (24/02/2008, 10:59 +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: Old discussion: What if I, as a reponsible adult, want to choose to receive/send the mail even though the certificate is expired? MM how is expiration of certificate related to Your age? In

Re: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.

2008-02-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Sunday, February 24, 2008, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Not I must. I should. And if I don't do it, I must live with the consequences. I must not be nannied by my email program - especially since other email programs don't nanny the user. They give a pop-up warning and then let the user

Expried certificates (was: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.)

2008-02-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 05:52:40 +0100 GMT (24/02/2008, 11:52 +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: Not I must. I should. And if I don't do it, I must live with the consequences. I must not be nannied by my email program - especially since other email programs don't nanny the user. They

Re: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.

2008-02-22 Thread Mark Partous
Hello danger, Friday, February 22, 2008, 5:44:23 AM, you wrote: d Can any one tell me what might have been corrupted it isn't the thebat.exe Does it work when you go back to an earlier beta? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.14.4 MyMacros 1.11a

Re[2]: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.

2008-02-22 Thread danger
Hello Mark, Friday, February 22, 2008, 4:22:59 AM, you wrote: MP Hello danger, MP Friday, February 22, 2008, 5:44:23 AM, you wrote: d Can any one tell me what might have been corrupted it isn't the thebat.exe MP Does it work when you go back to an earlier beta? Thanks for your reply seems

Re: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.

2008-02-22 Thread MAU
Hello danger, With the bat 4.0.14.4 when I try to send any email the email disappears then returns on the screen and is never sent. Enabling the SNMP logs shows nothing. What about Account log, does it show anything? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat!

2nd request for help can't email from the bat.

2008-02-21 Thread danger
Hello Tbbeta, With the bat 4.0.14.4 when I try to send any email the email disappears then returns on the screen and is never sent. Enabling the SNMP logs shows nothing. Can any one tell me what might have been corrupted it isn't the thebat.exe What did I destroy this time :-) thanks for