Re: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Hello MAU, Thanks for taking the time! Not wanting to steal your time, but if you got one spare minute maybe you would like to explain briefly what the different TB virtual folders we can see there are used for and how you set those up to do what you want... OK, here we go. *Reply on TBBeta* Is a VF looking at (and only at)TBBeta real folder for messages with Colour Group 'Reply' (i.e. Filter = Colour is Reply). [...] So I guess you use a keyboard shortcut to color a message? *Watch TBBeta* Once a Watch folder is created to 'look in one or more folder' (TBBeta folder only in my case), you can go to into that folder messages list, select a message, right click on it and, on the context menu, select 'Specials/Watch replies in' and then the name of the Watch folder. Thought so. I have a similar folder here. One thing I always notice is that when I already marked a message to be watched, and I want to mark a second message, the checkmark is already there in the context menu. I have to uncheck it, and then go into the context menu again and re-check it to have the message appear in the watching folder...do you see the same? *To me* This one is a normal VF just looking for messages in TBBeta that are assigned to colour group 'R2me' (replies to me). Thats an interesting concept. Maybe I'll try that some day! And that's basically all. Feel free to ask is something is still unclear. Everything clear...and something learned again! Thanks a lot. -- Martin TB! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Hello Martin, Thanks for taking the time! You know you now owe me a beer, don't you? ;-) *Reply on TBBeta* Is a VF looking at (and only at)TBBeta real folder for messages with Colour Group 'Reply' (i.e. Filter = Colour is Reply). [...] So I guess you use a keyboard shortcut to color a message? No, I'm quite mouse oriented and use very few keyboard shortcuts. Anyway, in this specific case and some other similar ones I use a Read filter. When I mark a message as Read (which I do manually with Space key) the Read filter is triggered and, if the message is flagged, it is assign to 'Reply' colour group and flag is cleared. *Watch TBBeta* Once a Watch folder is created to 'look in one or more folder' (TBBeta folder only in my case), you can go to into that folder messages list, select a message, right click on it and, on the context menu, select 'Specials/Watch replies in' and then the name of the Watch folder. Thought so. I have a similar folder here. One thing I always notice is that when I already marked a message to be watched, and I want to mark a second message, the checkmark is already there in the context menu. I have to uncheck it, and then go into the context menu again and re-check it to have the message appear in the watching folder...do you see the same? I haven't been using these watch folder much lately, but yes, I know there are some issues with them (there were also in the past). I just haven't taken the time t analyse and log a report in BT. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.13 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Hello Martin, Not wanting to steal your time, but if you got one spare minute maybe you would like to explain briefly what the different TB virtual folders we can see there are used for and how you set those up to do what you want... OK, here we go. *Reply on TBBeta* Is a VF looking at (and only at)TBBeta real folder for messages with Colour Group 'Reply' (i.e. Filter = Colour is Reply). I have a colour group that I call 'Reply' to mark messages (in any account) that I want or need to reply to. This way, for example in TBBeta, when I mark a message for reply (assign to Reply colour group) is it automagically displayed in this VF. This is for example what I did with you message yesterday. *Verify* Very similar to the above one. It is another VF looking to TBBeta for messages assigned to 'Verify colour group, which I use to mark messages that report a problem (or a fix) and I want to verify by myself. *Watch TBBeta* This one is perhaps a little more tricky. Watch folders (also called Chat folders) are a special type of VFs that do not have 'Filter' capabilities and set up options like normal VFs. The way they work, basically, is as follows. Once a Watch folder is created to 'look in one or more folder' (TBBeta folder only in my case), you can go to into that folder messages list, select a message, right click on it and, on the context menu, select 'Specials/Watch replies in' and then the name of the Watch folder. What happens then is the messages you clicked on, plus any existing replies (i.e thread) will be displayed in the Watch folder. But what is most important and useful is than any future replies to any of the messages in the thread will be displayed in the watch folder. I have one of these watch folders for each mailing list and newsgroup I am subscribed to. This way, if I am particularly interested in a thread, I select the first message and do Specials/Watch replies in... *To me* This one is a normal VF just looking for messages in TBBeta that are assigned to colour group 'R2me' (replies to me). Perhaps the 'tricky' part about this one is the way messages are marked as replies t me. I do this with and incoming sub-filter, actually one of the ones that I was testing with this thread. What the sub-filter looks for is for the domain part of my email address '@rancho-k.com' in the In-Reply-To: header field. If present, then that message is a direct reply to me(although coming to TBBeta) and is assigned to 'R2me' colour group. And that's basically all. Feel free to ask is something is still unclear. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Hello Martin, Not wanting to steal your time, but if you got one spare minute maybe you would like to explain briefly what the different TB virtual folders we can see there are used for and how you set those up to do what you want... I will try to find some time tonight :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Hello MAU, As you can see in attached GIF... Not wanting to steal your time, but if you got one spare minute maybe you would like to explain briefly what the different TB virtual folders we can see there are used for and how you set those up to do what you want... Just curious. Using TB permanently for half a year now, and still got the feeling I only discovered 15% of its functionality (much like with my own brain ;-) -- Martin TB! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Hello all, Thank you all for the replies to the first test. Can you do the same again? This time I'm using exactly the same sub-filters but this time they are Account sub-filters instead of Common. TIA. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
[ Saturday, October 15, 2005 at 12.46.55 (GMT +0200)] MAU, On Sat, 15 Oct 2005, at 12:40:35 [GMT+0200] (which was 15/10/2005, at 12.40 where I live ) you wrote: Can you do the same again? This time I'm using exactly the same sub-filters but this time they are Account sub-filters instead of Common. Hmmm... just a reply :) JakeLM -- [ http://www.jakelm.it ] Time from your mail and my answer: 6 Min 20 Sec Here my public GPG key: http://www.jakelm.it/0x840D7D5C.asc [Powered by The Bat [3.61.12 Echo (Beta)] The One Mailreader.] Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Hallo Miguel, On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:40:35 +0200GMT (15-10-2005, 12:40 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M Can you do the same again? This time I'm using exactly the same Happy hunting. -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr 007: System price error - Inadequate money spent on hardware The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpiwL1jRRzhh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
[ Saturday, October 15, 2005 at 13.00.31 (GMT +0200)] Roelof, On Sat, 15 Oct 2005, at 12:49:26 [GMT+0200] (which was 15/10/2005, at 12.49 where I live ) you wrote: Happy hunting. Third.. -- [ http://www.jakelm.it ] Time from your mail and my answer: 11 Min 5 Sec Here my public GPG key: http://www.jakelm.it/0x840D7D5C.asc [Powered by The Bat [3.61.12 Echo (Beta)] The One Mailreader.] pgp0VpCTzJeVR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Hello JakeLM, Hmmm... just a reply :) It's all needed, thanks :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Hello Roelof, Happy hunting. I'm getting there, thanks. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Het was op zaterdag 15 oktober 2005 om 12:48 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'Second test, now using Account sub-filters' : Hoi JakeLM, Can you do the same again? This time I'm using exactly the same sub-filters but this time they are Account sub-filters instead of Common. J Hmmm... just a reply :) J JakeLM straight out of the shower adding a reply to a reply ;) -- groeten, Cees A pessimist is never disappointed. __ The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Hello JakeLM, Third.. That's enough, thanks. As expected, Account sub-filters are working fine. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Hello Cees, straight out of the shower adding a reply to a reply ;) Your reply is wet, but it went through the filters just fine ;-) Thanks. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Hello MAU, As expected, Account sub-filters are working fine. As you can see in attached GIF, all messages were properly coloured and sorted to TBBeta. And the 'To me' VF in the folder tree shows 2 unread messages, as it should. Thanks to all again. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Thread_test_2.gif Description: GIF image Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Common manual sub-filters are evaluated when the parent isn't
Hi all, I first noticed this problem in 3.0.2.1, and posted my findings here. There was no response and the problem hasn't been fixed, so I'll try again. I like the idea of peer review before opening a BT item, but when I don't get any should I just open a BT report? Anyway... For want of a better place to put manual filters, I create them as Read messages filters and set them to only be invoked by a hotkey. This works fine for an individual account. But, if I do the same thing as common filters, any sub-filters are evaluated when a message is marked read. To reproduce: - For an individual account, create a Read messages filter that is invoked *only* by a hotkey, matches any message and plays a sound. - Create a sub-filter of that filter that matches any message and plays a different sound. Select a message, hit the hotkey and you should hear both sounds. Cause a message to be marked read and you hear neither sound. This, IMO, is correct. - Do the exact same thing as above (use a different hotkey), but create the filters as common filters and share them with one or more accounts. When invoked by the hotkey, you will correctly hear both sounds. But, if you cause a message to be marked read you will hear the sub-filter's sound when neither should play. This was rather disconcerting, as one of my sub-filters was set to move messages to my common spam folder. As I read messages, they'd disappear from the folder. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.7 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common manual sub-filters are evaluated when the parent isn't
On Monday, November 15, 2004, at 12:31:16 [UTC-0800] (Monday, November 15, 2004 21:31 my local time) George Mitchell wrote: I first noticed this problem in 3.0.2.1, and posted my findings here. There was no response and the problem hasn't been fixed, so I'll try again. I like the idea of peer review before opening a BT item, but when I don't get any should I just open a BT report? Anyway... Cannot confirm common filters behaviour which was described in your message. I created two pairs of filters according to your description and have both working exactly as they were set. Here are my common filters: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [0D3880B0.01C4CB54.7F6F866A.09D4CC17] Name: Test_01 Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PlaySound file C:\5CProgram\20Files\5CThe\20Bat!\5Csounds\5CFocusAccount.wav IsActive IsHotkey IsHotkeyOnly Ignore endFilter 1 beginFilter UID: [253F0260.01C4CB54.07201A75.34F55C4E] Name: Test_02 Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PlaySound file C:\5CProgram\20Files\5CThe\20Bat!\5Csounds\5CCreateEditorReply.wav IsActive Ignore endFilter Filters for specific account were similar. They are triggered by different hotkey and play different sounds. Even if they were assigned to account shared with common filters, they worked correctly. Unfortunately, I find out another error in filter pasting. This is AV error if the filter tree is pasted into any filter group. AV error appears when any filter of this group is then selected. I work in encrypted mode and must retrieve my filter configuration from backup copy (it is stored in ACCOUNT.ERB file). This is observed always and produces following entries in except.log: 15/11/2004 21:44:27 Records:FiltersDB.Free EAccessViolation Access violation at address 0040412C in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 41553331 15/11/2004 21:44:27 Records:FiltersDB.Free EInvalidPointer Invalid pointer operation Please copy and paste included filters and check the errors (having backup copy either of ACCOUNT.ERB or ACCOUNT.SRB file). Filter created from scratch work correctly without AV errors. -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 with BayesIt! 0.7.4) Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common manual sub-filters are evaluated when the parent isn't
Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote: ZW Cannot confirm common filters behaviour which was described in ZW your message. I created two pairs of filters according to your ZW description and have both working exactly as they were set. Here ZW are my common filters: snip ZW Filters for specific account were similar. They are triggered by ZW different hotkey and play different sounds. Even if they were ZW assigned to account shared with common filters, they worked ZW correctly. Thanks for looking at this. I pasted your filters into my common read filters, changed the sounds, assigned a hotkey and shared them with all my accounts. The behavior is identical to what I described. The only difference I see between yours and mine is that I had the Check the messages against this rule option checked. That seems to have no effect. snip ZW Please copy and paste included filters and check the errors (having backup ZW copy either of ACCOUNT.ERB or ACCOUNT.SRB file). Filter created from scratch ZW work correctly without AV errors. The pasted filters work fine; I have no problem accessing/editing them. The only change I made was to change the PlaySound line to refer to valid files on my system before pasting. I'm not using encryption. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.7 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common manual sub-filters are evaluated when the parent isn't
On Monday, November 15, 2004, at 14:14:03 [UTC-0800] (Monday, November 15, 2004 23:14 my local time) George Mitchell wrote: [...] I pasted your filters into my common read filters, changed the sounds, assigned a hotkey and shared them with all my accounts. The behavior is identical to what I described. The only difference I see between yours and mine is that I had the Check the messages against this rule option checked. That seems to have no effect. I tested different kinds of filter-subfilter pairs and have always the same correct results. So, maybe this is due to different working mode of our programs. The pasted filters work fine; I have no problem accessing/editing them. The only change I made was to change the PlaySound line to refer to valid files on my system before pasting. I'm not using encryption. Of course, .WAV file paths have no significance, but the working mode has. Any other confirmations, please? -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 with BayesIt! 0.7.4) Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common manual sub-filters are evaluated when the parent isn't
George Mitchell wrote: I first noticed this problem in 3.0.2.1, and posted my findings here. There was no response and the problem hasn't been fixed, so I'll try again. I like the idea of peer review before opening a BT item, but when I don't get any should I just open a BT report? Anyway... [subfilters activate even though the parent doesn't] This behavior, in addition to the fact that if the parent is marked continue processing it STILL halts on any matched subfilter, was driving me nuts. Particularly because this was my first time working with either subfilters OR common filters... so naturally I just figured it was user error and kept trying. THE BUG: The fact is that there is a confirmed bug with common folders: in that context subfilters are irrelevant, and every filter is evaluated linearly--as if it were on the top level. Subject: Common subfilters behave as filters mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] THE WORKAROUND: For now, don't use common subfilters. -- zParticle Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common manual sub-filters are evaluated when the parent isn't
Hello George, I first noticed this problem in 3.0.2.1, and posted my findings here. There was no response and the problem hasn't been fixed, so I'll try again. I like the idea of peer review before opening a BT item, but when I don't get any should I just open a BT report? Anyway... For want of a better place to put manual filters, I create them as Read messages filters and set them to only be invoked by a hotkey. This works fine for an individual account. But, if I do the same thing as common filters, any sub-filters are evaluated when a message is marked read. Maybe it is related to this BT report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common manual sub-filters are evaluated when the parent isn't
MAU wrote: M Maybe it is related to this BT report: M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021 Indeed, that would explain it. Pretty serious bug IMO. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.7 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common sub-filters behave as filters
Hello MAU, I have added BT report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021 Tested again with v3.0.2.5 and I can fully confirm the behaviour. And has been confirmed and assigned to 9Val by Teal-One in BT. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Winamp Playing: Yulara - Flyin' High (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay) Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Common sub-filters behave as filters
Hello MAU, I have added BT report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021 Tested again with v3.0.2.5 and I can fully confirm the behaviour. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Common sub-filters behave as filters
Hello all, Take this Common Incoming filters construct: Filter 1: If A do 1 (Set to continue processing with other filters) Sub-filter 1: If B do 2 Sub-filter 2: If C do 3 Filter 2: If D do 4 ... And now consider theses cases: 1.- A message that meets conditions A, B and D. Only actions 1 and 2 are executed. Filter 2 is _not_ triggered even though Filter 1 is set to continue. 2.- A message that meets conditions B and D. Only action 2 is executed. When it should only execute 4 because, if filter 1 did not have a match, sub-filter 1 should have never been executed. I could illustrate a few more cases, but I think these two are enough to be able to say that sub-filters (common sub-filters) behave as if they were normal filters and, in some cases, preventing the execution of any account filters. One very important note: The same construct works just fine if done at Account level. And a second note. I don't know if this bug is new to v3.0.2.4 Rush because I had never tested Common filter before. I have added BT report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Common manual sub-filters fire when the parent doesn't
Hi all, For want of a better place to put manual filters, I create them as Read messages filters and set them to only be invoked by a hotkey. As I understand it, a sub-filter of a manual filter shouldn't be set to use a hotkey; you can't assign the same hotkey and it should fire if and only if its parent fires anyway. This works fine for an individual account. But, if I do the same thing as common filters, the sub-filter fires when a message is marked read. Hmmm, clear as mud. To reproduce: - For an individual account, create a Read messages filter that is invoked *only* by a hotkey, matches any message and plays a sound. - Create a sub-filter of that filter that matches any message and plays a different sound. Select a message, hit the hotkey and you should hear both sounds. Cause a message to be marked read and you hear neither sound. This, IMO, is correct. - Do the exact same thing as above, but create the filters as common filters and share them with all accounts. When invoked by the hotkey, you will correctly hear both sounds. But, if you cause a message to be marked read you will hear the sub-filter's sound, when neither should play. This was rather disconcerting, as one of my sub-filters was set to move messages to my common spam folder. As I read messages, they'd dissapear from view. -- George Using The Rat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2. Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
BUG: sub-filters not restored
Hello, when doing a backup, new installation and then restore, sub-filters are lost. -- Best regards Jonas Koopmann using The Bat! 3.0.1 RC7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 3.0.1 RC/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS: Sub-filters not reported by Test filter option
Hallo MAU, On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:15:53 +0200GMT (24-8-2004, 1:15 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M However, if I use the Test filter option on an exiting message in one M of the lists folders, let's say TBBeta, only the TB_List filter is M reported but not the TBBeta sub-filter. Confirmed. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current beta is 2.13 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Sub-filters?..
Hello Alexander, M Just assign a message to a colour group and check for it in a M subsequent filter. Second check will failed - some actions was (?) accumulated and applied only after last filter's check Color group marking is in this list H! I was pretty sure that could be done (at least with some previous version of TB), but maybe I'm wrong. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.12.00 Current beta is 2.13 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Sub-filters?..
Hello MAU, On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:28:50 +0200 (19.08.2004 21:28 my local time), received Thursday, August 19, 2004 at 23:53:33 +0600, you wrote about Sub-filters?.., at least in part: M Just assign a message to a colour group and check for it in a M subsequent filter. Second check will failed - some actions was (?) accumulated and applied only after last filter's check Color group marking is in this list -- Best regards, Alexander Leschinsky Powered by The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/5 POP3 Catcher 1.3.718.1120 MyMacros 1.11a AnotherMacros 0.3.21 /24ED1B1E0/ Useless Macro Collection 1.3.387 Weakened by Windows XP 5.1.2600 Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Sub-filters?..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 AL Second check will failed - some actions was (?) accumulated and applied AL only after last filter's check AL Color group marking is in this list Sad but true. - -- :Stuart_Hemming: Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.5.10 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com Satisfy your inner child by eating ten tubes of Smarties. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQSW0GtttnLhkydF1EQJm8wCeKrvtCznR5tLPj5IXy8W02MTUkhQAn0dW sIbZzySReDuuAwi0rqPk7HSl =HX9k -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Sub-filters?..
On Thursday, August 05, 2004 it appears that Allie Martin wrote the following in regards to Sub-filters?..: does anyone know what sub-filters are and how we could use them? (Presumably some-one wants them, else how did they get on the feature list in the first place?) AM Without documentation I'd be speculating. However, logically, the AM following should be the case: AM Without subfilters, TB! currently takes each message through the AM filters and sequentially looks for a filter match starting from the AM filter at the top and working downwards. The first matching filter is AM applied and nothing further is done with that message unless the AM initial matching filter has 'continue processing with other filters AM enabled'. AM Subfilters seem to offer the ability to create a fork in the sequence. Hi Allie. I assumed the same thing(s) about sub-filers tried one w/o much luck. Problem is that it was part of a multiple filter structure, i.e. x or y or z, then move to folder with continue filtering to sub-filter to change color. I think there are problems with debug filters I think I know there are problems with change color so it's hard to know if subfilter is working or not. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 Lucky Beta/2 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
