Re: 5.1.2.: System HTML viewer incorrectly displays UTF-8 HTML messages without correct HTML structure
Servus Uwe, Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 5:36:26 PM, you wrote: correctly passed to the system viewer. If the HTML itself bore a correct header, all may have been OK. But in these messages, the HTML just starts right off with text. The internal viewer shows them properly right from the start. I can confirm on all that. I have several messages (HTML only) created using Thunderbird and they look like Since we seem to agree that this is an issue - do you - or anybody else - know if concluding this here is enough for RITLabs to get on it, or do we need to create an issue in the previously mentioned issue tracking system? Thanks and have a nice day. -- Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.2.: System HTML viewer incorrectly displays UTF-8 HTML messages without correct HTML structure
Hello Raymund, The system viewer doesn't respect the UTL-8 character set, but the internal viewer shows them properly. I would expect that the system viewer does not see the Nobody expects the system viewer to see these, of course (those are 2 different programs and it'd be sad if they saw into eachother). But, we (or I, for this matter) would well expect TheBat' to - pass this data to the viewer when embedding it in the view window. - or, if such a feature is not defined by the interface used to invoke the system viewer, patch the HTML passed to the viewer by adding that header so the encoding gets propagated to it. -- Best regards, Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.1.2.: System HTML viewer incorrectly displays UTF-8 HTML messages without correct HTML structure
Hello TB-BETA, I have one sender (a forum's notifications) that sends me HTML+Text emails that miss the correct HTML structure (no HTML, no HEAD, no BODY, no encoding) but directly start with content. When TheBat! is set to use the system HTML viewer (was this meant to become the default setting, become active without being explicitly configured so?) these messages are not shown properly. With the internal viewer, they display fine. These messages have the following header: Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Is there a chance to detect the encoding the same as seems to be done with the internal viewer to correctly display even these broken messages (in light of the internal viewer being able to do so?) I can supply a sample if it helps. -- Best regards, Viktor mailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.2.: System HTML viewer incorrectly displays UTF-8 HTML messages without correct HTML structure
Hi Viktor, These messages have the following header: Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I reported that problem before on BugTraq and did sent some messages BUT my messages were detected properly as UTF-8 but not displayed properly. When I switched coding to something else and back to UTF-8 they were fine. For me personally the problem mainly was connected with messages send in Polish or Chinese (Simplified and Traditional). -- Best Regards, RS (FEDARA) The Bat! 5.1.2 Windows 7 x64 Professional (7601 Service Pack 1) Tuesday, April 24, 2012 (21:51 ; GMT+8) Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.2.: System HTML viewer incorrectly displays UTF-8 HTML messages without correct HTML structure
Hello RS, Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 3:56:06 PM, you wrote: BUT my messages were detected properly as UTF-8 but not displayed properly. When I switched coding to something else and back to UTF-8 they were fine. For me personally the problem mainly was connected with messages send in Polish or Chinese (Simplified and Traditional). Probably the encoding was simply not applied. My messages are in Czech, but IMO we can safely suppose the problem doesn't depend on the language, but on the encoding. Encoding read out of the email doesn't seem to be correctly passed to the system viewer. If the HTML itself bore a correct header, all may have been OK. But in these messages, the HTML just starts right off with text. The internal viewer shows them properly right from the start. -- Best regards, Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.2.: System HTML viewer incorrectly displays UTF-8 HTML messages without correct HTML structure
Hello Viktor, Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 5:28:15 PM, you wrote: Probably the encoding was simply not applied. My messages are in Czech, but IMO we can safely suppose the problem doesn't depend on the language, but on the encoding. Encoding read out of the email doesn't seem to be correctly passed to the system viewer. If the HTML itself bore a correct header, all may have been OK. But in these messages, the HTML just starts right off with text. The internal viewer shows them properly right from the start. I can confirm on all that. I have several messages (HTML only) created using Thunderbird and they look like Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head /head body bgcolor=#ff text=#00 ... The system viewer doesn't respect the UTL-8 character set, but the internal viewer shows them properly. -- Best regards, Uwe Using The Bat! v5.1.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 POP3 accounts, no IMAP, no OTFE Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.2.: System HTML viewer incorrectly displays UTF-8 HTML messages without correct HTML structure
Hi Viktor, Hello RS, Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 3:56:06 PM, you wrote: BUT my messages were detected properly as UTF-8 but not displayed properly. When I switched coding to something else and back to UTF-8 they were fine. For me personally the problem mainly was connected with messages send in Polish or Chinese (Simplified and Traditional). Probably the encoding was simply not applied. My messages are in Czech, but IMO we can safely suppose the problem doesn't depend on the language, but on the encoding. Encoding read out of the email doesn't seem to be correctly passed to the system viewer. If the HTML itself bore a correct header, all may have been OK. But in these messages, the HTML just starts right off with text. The internal viewer shows them properly right from the start. You might be right, however for instance for Polish it makes the message bad looking but you can understand it but for Chinese it makes it completely unreadable (especially if it contains Simplified and Traditional Chinese). If you reply to a message in Simplified Chinese but somebody before typed there in Traditional Chinese ; Traditional Chinese part becomes complete garbage. BTW, looks like something has changed in that version because a trick I described before is not working anymore for me on two Chinese messages I just tried. Autodetect displayed message in Cyrillic. I'm on the trip now ; in 5 days I'll be able to recheck behavior on my second machine. Same message is properly shown in other clients. -- Best Regards, RS (FEDARA) The Bat! 5.1.2 Windows 7 x64 Professional (7601 Service Pack 1) Tuesday, April 24, 2012 (23:58 ; GMT+8) Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.2.: System HTML viewer incorrectly displays UTF-8 HTML messages without correct HTML structure
Hi Raymund, I would expect that the system viewer does not see the Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit part. As the message doesn't contain a meta tag with the information that the content is indeed UTF-8 it uses what ever it thinks is correct. Which it obviously fails to determine correctly. I would say the fault is on Thunderbirds sise here that it is not specifying the meta tag. Maybe you're right but try to reply to a message that is mixed with Traditional and Simplified Chinese and explain to this people why your client's e-mail is half unreadable... When I replied to a first message I didn't realize that part of it became unreadable because it was in the part that was not visible while typing (e-mail was long). Original e-mail I refer to was created in Apple Mail in Traditional Chinese ; after that replied in Simplified Chinese (Chinese OS) with Foxmail (quite popular in China as far as I know) and received in TB! where I tried to reply to it and had to remove half of the thread that was in Traditional Chinese because it was all scrambled. I do like TB! but it's a bit humiliating when it comes to such situation and they do tell me to switch to Outlook or Thunderbird. Especially that it's not a freeware. Anyway, just realized that all Traditional Chinese messages I have are now completely unreadable in that version. Even if enforcing UTF-8 nothing is happening. Need to go back to a previous version were at least I was able to read messages in Traditional Chinese... :( -- Best Regards, RS (FEDARA) The Bat! 5.1.2 Windows 7 x64 Professional (7601 Service Pack 1) Wednesday, April 25, 2012 (00:16 ; GMT+8) Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
