Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, MaXxX wrote... Greetings. I've recently been conversing with a friend of mine, who uses MS Outlook. All of his messages have an attachment called winmail.dat, but, knowing that Outlook might be attaching weird files for its own evil reasons, I ignored it. Outlook uses those winmail.dat files as richtext encoding (if I remember correctly) or similar such things. So, my question: is it The Bat that fails to recognize an accepted standard for sending attachments, or (more likely, I know) does Outlook send weird things? And even if it does, how the heck can I pry the darned thing open?? Outlook sends weird things. You'll probably notice the content-type is labelled as application/ms-tnef, (if you cannot guess) is a Microsoft specific type. ;) http://www.fentun.com/ http://www.biblet.freeserve.co.uk/Download/WMDecode.zip -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Americans who blow horns to break up traffic jams scoff at primitives who beat drums to drive away evil spirits pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.01.7 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?
Greetings Timothy, Saturday, October 25, 2003, 8:23:19 AM, you wrote: -| And the difference between Most US Government agencies and -Large US Government Agencies is what? -| lol Ooops grin. Thinking one thing and writing another -- Best regards, Scott TSgt In the USAF...an overly large Government Agency...grin Forget Outlook Express, I use The Bat! 2.01.3 On an ECS K7S5A with an AMD Athlon XP 2000+ and 512Megs of Crucial DDR RAM (PC2100). Burdened by: Windows XP Home (V 5.1.2600) --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 10/24/2003 Tested on: 10/25/2003 6:55:35 PM avast! is copyright (c) 2000-2003 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current beta is 2.01.7 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?
Hello MaXxX, On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:06:17 +0200 (24.10.2003 00:06 my local time) you wrote about winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?, at least in part: M There seem to be JPEG files inside it, but how should I open it? Well, it's M$ proprietary MS_TNEF, evil of Internet mail M So, my question: is it The Bat that fails to recognize an accepted M standard for sending attachments, TNEF is non standard, RFC define and allow MIME M or (more likely, I know) does M Outlook send weird things? Yes, but it _can_ also use MIME... Fentun can help you in fighting with winmail.dat -- Best regards, Alexander Leschinsky Powered by The Bat! 2.01.7 Weakened by Windows 98 4.10. A - MOTD: It was a book to kill time for those who like it better dead. Dame Rose Macaulay Current beta is 2.01.7 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?
On Thursday, October 23, 2003 at 22:09 Maxxx wrote: Where in the nine pits of Hell did they (MS) find that idea :/ Simple. They come up with something new, hope that enough people will use it and by doing so try to make defacto standards that they hope others will support. I've heard that Novell is supporting this MS-only attachment encoding style called MS-TNEF in their latest incursion of their GroupWise Internet Agent gateway if only to get rid of the questions of their customers. The reason almost any mail from Outlook has this attachment, even if no files were attached to the e-mail is that it is used to store Outlook specific additional mailproperties as well. Why they don't just use X-headers for those is beyond me. -- Greetings, Maurice Using The Bat! v2.01.7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 2.01.7 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?
MDP All I'll say is ... what the zarking photon is that double line MDP spacing all about? Looks like you're using a slightly tweaked MDP wrapped quotes template. Do you need some help with putting it MDP straight? (goto TBTECH for that). it wasn't MY message that was the problem, it was the original. Have you seen this before with a message from ME?? -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 2.01.7 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?
MaXxX wrote: I've recently been conversing with a friend of mine, who uses MS Outlook. All of his messages have an attachment called winmail.dat, but, knowing that Outlook might be attaching weird files for its own evil reasons, I ignored it. snip So, my question: is it The Bat that fails to recognize an accepted standard for sending attachments, or (more likely, I know) does Outlook send weird things? And even if it does, how the heck can I pry the darned thing open?? As you suspected, Outlook sends weird stuff. Some information and solutions (including a link to a decoder) can be found at: http://www.gpc.edu/~jbenson/resource/winmail.htm -- George Using TB! 2.01.3 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1. Current beta is 2.01.7 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 9:04:05 PM, Martin Webster turned electrons into what is below: You can view the winmail.dat file using a free utility from http://www.biblet.com/. Found it already, but thanks. :) Where in the nine pits of Hell did they (MS) find that idea :/ -- |\ /| \~~~/ \~~~/ | \/ | /\ \~/ ICQ# 3146019 || /__\ /___\ /_\ /___\IQ# 3.14159 [A]bort, [R]etry, [P]ee in drive door? Flyin' high with The Bat! v2.01.3 over the swamps of Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 2.01.7 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: winmail.dat ? what the heck is that?
Hi Paul, @23-Oct-2003, 15:35 -0400 (20:35 UK time) Paul C [PC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Paul: M Outlook send weird things? And even if it does, how the heck M can I pry the darned thing open?? PC drag the winmail.dat to a program called fentun.exe , it will PC expand out any attachments.. PC ok, I can see the cut copy police out after me... I THOUGHT I PC trimmed that reply, but when I got itUGH, his entire PC message go ahead, make my day;0) All I'll say is ... what the zarking photon is that double line spacing all about? Looks like you're using a slightly tweaked wrapped quotes template. Do you need some help with putting it straight? (goto TBTECH for that). -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.01.7 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.01.7 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
